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All eyes on Woodson these days

ALAMEDA – All eyes are on safety Charles Woodson these days, just as they were during his first stint with the Raiders. And Woodson is well aware of the intense scrutiny
Way back in 1998, people wanted to know what all the fuss was about with a player that won the Heisman Trophy and arrived as the No. 4 pick in the NFL draft. Nowadays, they are curious to see whether Woodson has anything left to offer.
“Everybody wants to see how I’m going to come out here and work and practice,” Woodson said, “and the last few weeks I’ve showed them what kind of player I am and why I have been around this long.”
He isn’t one to stand back and watch or take off practices because of his veteran status, in much the way defensive tackle Richard Seymour did in recent seasons.
No, Woodson has been at every practice since he signed with the Raiders in May after a seven-year run with the Green Bay Packers. And he is on the field as often as possible, learning a new defense and building chemistry with players he barely knows, if at all.
Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie was with the Packers when they signed Woodson after his eight-year run with the Raiders. He put on the full-court press for Woodson once it became apparent that the market had softened.
“Wood’s been great,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said. “He’s done everything that we’ve asked him to do. He’s really exactly what we felt we were going to be able to get in a player like that; a Hall of Fame-caliber player that’s made a lot of plays on the football over his career. We’re going to continue to ask him to do those things.”
Woodson admitted that he reached the point this offseason, soon after his release by the Packers, that he might have played his last down as an NFL player.
Before the Raiders called, Woodson met with the 49ers and Denver Broncos. He jumped at the opportunity to finish his career where it started.

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  • guest123

    What really cemented the negativity was Pryor struggling with EXACTLY what all the scouting reports pointed out since his OSU days (bad reads, inaccurate passes, locking in one 1 receiver before bolting).

    ^^^^^^

    this is the exact same knock that Tebow’s got. Scouting report on him is that he vapor locks on his primary read, then shuffles around the pocket and waits for his guy to break free. doesn’t see the field well.

  • Thec

    We wouldn’t be surprised if Lucas Nix upstaged Brisiel at some point.

    +++++++++++=

    LUCAS NIX is the one, not BERGS…

    Get my new lid ready.

  • mcfadden20.

    I can see every Raider fan would love Pryor to turn out to be a HOF QB, certain someone thinks he’s already on that path

  • Thec

    RR, put me down for No.6

  • mcfadden20.

    :) Go RAIDERS

  • romania

    Change of subject.

    With int rates moving up, how long do you think the latest “boom” to real estate will last in Oakland? I think the chinese backed development in the Jack London Sq area and the link up to Lake Merritt will be huge for Oakland. Hope that will tip things over for a redevelopment of the colosseum and surrounding area. Still a great place to watch football, lousy for A’s games.

  • mcfadden20.

    Sip Moore is not fair , he’s going to be a stud and everyone knows it, pick a different player

  • mcfadden20.

    David Bass bandwagon will be in full force come pre-season games

  • J Hill

    I dont think this formation exposes the qb any more than other formations, and plenty of qbs that dont run get hurt every year.

    ————————————————————

    Pistol has an element of read-option, correct?

    Jets vs Tebow year before last, I saw Ryan’s defense put some really good hits on Tebow when he put the ball in the RBs hand faking his run.

    I think you are going to see a lot more defenses doing that.

  • guest123

    Sip Moore is not fair , he’s going to be a stud and everyone knows it, pick a different player

    ^^^^^^^

    how is it not fair? just because he says he’s the best LB in the draft? What has any of us seen with pads in a real game?

  • mcfadden20.

    Can I pick two players?

    DAVID BASS AND STACY MCGEE

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    guest123 Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 10:38 am

    @ mistic,

    most of us would love for him to pan out one day.

    it’s your over the top comments that implies he’s far and away the best QB on roster and it’s only a matter of time till he shows everyone. Those are the kind of comments that make people kind of hate him.
    ==================

    he is far and away the best on the roster, and one the most talented qbs we have ever seen in silver and black.

    We have never had a qb that could sling it 65 yards for a score, or run 65 yards with 4.3 speed for a score.

    These are very exciting times. 23 year old, hard worker, good teammate and natural leader.

    If anybody “hates” pryor it has nothing to do with anything I or anyone else has said about his strengths.

    you have exposed your true feeling for pryor here through your contradictory statement.

    You cant “hate” him and at the same time “want him to pan out one day” guest

    very suspicious on your part

  • J Hill

    Thec,

    Are we on for that note?

  • mcfadden20.

    Guest123 Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 10:56 am
    Sip Moore is not fair , he’s going to be a stud and everyone knows it, pick a different player

    ^^^^^^^

    how is it not fair? just because he says he’s the best LB in the draft? What has any of us seen with pads in a real game?

    He was a high pick for a reason

  • DutchRaider77

    I dont think this formation exposes the qb any more than other formations, and plenty of qbs that dont run get hurt every year.

    ___________________________________________________

    Saw a defensive player on NFL network (sorry, forgot who it was, guest commentator) said that you can hit the QB on every play, aka you can cheap shot the QB on every play…lots of stuff on the internet saying the same thing. No clue if true…only time will tell.

  • mcfadden20.

    he is far and away the best on the roster, and one the most talented qbs we have ever seen in silver and black.

    We have never had a qb that could sling it 65 yards for a score, or run 65 yards with 4.3 speed for a score.

    These are very exciting times. 23 year old, hard worker, good teammate and natural leader.

    If anybody “hates” pryor it has nothing to do with anything I or anyone else has said about his strengths.

    you have exposed your true feeling for pryor here through your contradictory statement.

    You cant “hate” him and at the same time “want him to pan out one day” guest

    very suspicious on your part

    Would love him to become a legit QB but as far as being the best QB , I’ll wait for DA to announce the winner of the QB competition when that day comes and Pryor wins, we’ll give you the Pryor bobble head

  • mcfadden20.

    :) :) :) :) :)

  • alex7

    The pistol O requires different reads and learning a different wrinkle on offense. Helps to be smart.

    Wonderlic scores:

    Colin Kaepernick 37
    Russell Wilson 28
    RG III 24
    .
    .
    .
    Terrell Pryor 7

  • xraided

    i would love to see the pistol, but pryor doesnt need to be in that formation to be successful. he can run any offense.

    ____

    that’s what i mean by being tebow’ish mistic

    he CANNOT pass well in the pocket, esp on short plays… this is why he isn’t a starter yet

    you will see it somemore in preseason. to say he just needs reps and reps alone is not seeing the big picture here.

    i can’t say im all about flynn or wilson at all either

    i hope TP can hit short and intermediate throws consistently

    i hope we run bootlegs with him all the time and give everyone 5-10 more seconds on every play. just develop things downfield and comeback routes, etc… i’d love to see it.

    he MUST SHOW US

  • mcfadden20.

    You cant “hate” him and at the same time “want him to pan out one day” guest

    very suspicious on your part


    Atleast you were consistent with your hate and wanting a certain player to fail – I won’t name that player since he’s not with the Raiders

    Just throwing that out there

  • guest123

    Sio Moore deal worth $3.04 million, including $690,832 signing bonus

  • Marks hair

    the pistol is a fantastic offense and the Chiefs were smart to sign ault.

  • xraided

    Alex7 Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 11:00 am
    The pistol O requires different reads and learning a different wrinkle on offense. Helps to be smart.

    Wonderlic scores:

    Colin Kaepernick 37
    Russell Wilson 28
    RG III 24
    .
    .
    .
    Terrell Pryor 7
    ________

    wonderlic has proved to be a misconception of a QB’s abilities over the years, but 7? ouch

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Hill Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 10:45 am

    so I’ll def b excited if he becomes something

    ———————————————————-

    I think folks need to clarify what this means.

    I think Pryor is definitely better than a Tebow or Lienart right now. I think he could possibly be at least as good as Campbell right now.

    ====================

    pryor has the talent to be way better than jc

    and of course tebow and lienart are not in the conversation.

    Jc was very good at the los, smart with the ball. jc was good at throwing on the move and avoiding pressure great leader good arm for deep passing and can pick up a 3rd and 8 with his feet.

    pryor has all that and then the ability to out run anybody in the nfl for 80 yards at a time

    im telling you now he is the most exciting qb we have drafted or traded for in decades

  • guest123

    He was a high pick for a reason

    ^^^^

    3rd round pick is a ‘high pick’?

  • xraided

    Guest123 Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 11:01 am
    Sio Moore deal worth $3.04 million, including $690,832 signing bonus
    ______

    helluva deal for a 4 year SOLID starter with 120 tackles and 6 sacks a year.. BOOM! called it! that’s his rookie #’s and gets defensive rookie of the year. CEMENT IT!

  • mcfadden20.

    Pryor hasn’t learned to pass well yet he can be in any Offense, David Bass will be next coming of Lawrencd Taylor , Latavius Murray is the next Marcus Allen + Bo Jackson conbined

  • willy91137

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 10:56 am
    Can I pick two players?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    willy
    offense wide receiver Veron

    defense D Bass

  • hwnrdr

    I never said that all you guys hate Pryor…not once…
    :)

  • mcfadden20.

    :) :) :) haven’t laughed so much in a couple days

  • xraided

    “Jc was very good at the los, smart with the ball. jc was good at throwing on the move and avoiding pressure great leader good arm for deep passing and can pick up a 3rd and 8 with his feet.”

    sorry i watched too many floaters and wide open targets down field for him to garner those kind of merits … you’re thinking of the few passes in which DMo halled in… like in the BUF game. that was about the only good lookin deep pass he hit.

    he was good at faking the camera out on play action… no doubt.. and took care of the ball mostly, but he was nothing but a game manager that had the best RB in the NFL at the time AND the best duo in the league with Bush. had JC not gotten hurt, you would be singing a different tune. you saw what he did with zero running game against SF and MIA right?

  • alex7

    Joe Webb ran a 4.4 forty and could sling it 60 yards.
    Pat White ran a 4.3 forty and could sling it 50 yards.

    Kinda have to know how to QB too, though.

  • xraided

    grr *floaters out of bounds and overthrown targets down field…

    can’t type today

  • guest123

    You cant “hate” him and at the same time “want him to pan out one day” guest

    very suspicious on your part

    ^^^^^^^

    gun to my head, do I think he pans out, no I still don’t think so. he’s a project that incredible talent. notice I never doubted his phsyical skills. but he’s had a lot of time to get his throwing and pocket presence to get into a solid rhythm and he’s still inconsistent.

    he’s a lottery ticket, a longshot. when I go to the 7-11 store and buy a lotto ticket, do I secretly think it’s my retirement plan? Of course not? But I have that hope that it could be. that’s Pryor to me.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    alex7 Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Hwnrdr

    no one forgets that Pryor had limited reps. It’s just that plenty of QBs step in and show legit talent on day 1, with limited reps
    ==============

    i would like to know what qb has stepped in after being inactive for 14 weeks, then practiced for 3 days getting 50% of the snaps during those practices, then played in the game and produced 3 tds

    alex can you tell us who you are referring to that has apparently also done this?

    also does scoring 3 tds in an nfl game qualify for “showing legit talent”?

    palmer and leinart combined for 0 tds for 5 weeks straight, before pryor stepped in and ended the skid.

    Do palmer and leinart have “legit talent”?

    please clarify

  • mcfadden20.

    Actually L Murray is next coming of Marcus Allen+ Bo Jackson+Barry Sanders-Marshal Faulk , Dickerson + Jim Brown+ A Peterson and all the other great RBs combined

  • hwnrdr

    mcfadden20. Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 11:08 am
    Actually L Murray is next coming of Marcus Allen+ Bo Jackson+Barry Sanders-Marshal Faulk , Dickerson + Jim Brown+ A Peterson and all the other great RBs combined

    Dam, with that talent…do we need a QB, an OL, or Seabass? LOL

  • xraided

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 11:03 am
    Pryor hasn’t learned to pass well yet he can be in any Offense, David Bass will be next coming of Lawrencd Taylor , Latavius Murray is the next Marcus Allen + Bo Jackson conbined
    _________

    yes he would be the CLEAR CUT starter if he was a good passer. and it seems none of the 3 are all that great regardless… so the kid definitely deserves a chance. realistically if they’re all going to suck, better off putting TP in there to run some fierce bootlegs that buys Big Ben kind of time for his receivers and TE’s … that does wonders for moving the chains.

    Wilson and Flynn are like statues for the most part. if they can’t hit receivers consistently, then they’ll be in trouble standing up in the pocket

    is training camp here yet?!

  • xraided

    PS that’s funny about Murray being Allen/Bo love child. wouldn’t that be nice? and DMC stays healty? two bada$$ RB’s to help out our sub par QB?

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 11:07 am
    alex7 Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 10:48 am

    Hwnrdr

    no one forgets that Pryor had limited reps. It’s just that plenty of QBs step in and show legit talent on day 1, with limited reps
    ==============

    i would like to know what qb has stepped in after being inactive for 14 weeks, then practiced for 3 days getting 50% of the snaps during those practices, then played in the game and produced 3 tds

    alex can you tell us who you are referring to that has apparently also done this?

    also does scoring 3 tds in an nfl game qualify for “showing legit talent”?

    palmer and leinart combined for 0 tds for 5 weeks straight, before pryor stepped in and ended the skid.

    Do palmer and leinart have “legit talent”?

    please clarify


    So a guy who has been on the team for 1 n half year gets a pass , but a guy who came off the couch midsession had 5 days to learn A-Z wasn’t given a pass ? What kinda logic is that ? Oh I get it he had more than 3 years experience in the league right ?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    J Hill Says:
    June 14th, 2013 at 10:55 am

    I dont think this formation exposes the qb any more than other formations, and plenty of qbs that dont run get hurt every year.

    ————————————————————

    Pistol has an element of read-option, correct?

    Jets vs Tebow year before last, I saw Ryan’s defense put some really good hits on Tebow when he put the ball in the RBs hand faking his run.

    I think you are going to see a lot more defenses doing that.
    ================

    you can run the read option from the pistol but you dont have to.

    tebow is an anomaly, because teams didnt respect hsi passing. So of course tee off on the qb and stack the box.

    teams couldnt do that to newton wilson or kappy, and once wash ditched the triple option teams couldnt hit rg III like that either.

    For the record though rgIII was injured on a scramble not a read option from the pistol, or any designed run for that matter

  • guest123

    I know we haven’t yet signed Wilson, but just to compare, Barkely who also went in the 4th round, got $2.739 mill with about $500k signing bonus. With the slotted rookie scale it gives us a reference.

  • J Hill

    im telling you now he is the most exciting qb we have drafted or traded for in decades

    ———————————————————–

    You and I had the same take on Pryor before we drafted him = NOT INTERESTED.

    I just don’t see how you could have changed your opinion so drastically after a couple of preseason games and the SD game.

    That’s some damned good kool aid, bruh.

  • xraided

    “he’s had a lot of time to get his throwing and pocket presence to get into a solid rhythm and he’s still inconsistent.”

    that’s just the thing that most don’t get about QB’s … you either HAVE IT OR YOU DONT … if you can’t be accurate with the football early on, it’s unlikely you learn it later on in life. that’s why there’s so few SUCCESSFUL NFL QB’s …

  • mcfadden20.

    Freaking trainin camp is 4 weeks away

  • alex7

    Wonderlic score seems to help a QB in two ways:

    Maximizes your average/below-average talent (Smith, Leinart)
    or
    Caps off your already-awesome talent.

    1. Ryan Fitzpatrick 48
    2. Alex Smith 40
    3. Eli Manning 39
    4. Matt Stafford 38
    5. Andrew Luck 37
    6. Colin Kaepernick 37
    7. Tony Romo 37
    8. Aaron Rodgers 35
    9. Matt Leinart 35
    10. Tom Brady 33
    11. Matt Ryan 32
    12. Matt Schaub 31
    13. Philip Rivers 30
    14. Matt Hasselbeck 29
    15. Russell Wilson 28

  • willy91137

    The idea of the postal is you have one more blocker the quarterback

    the running back stand directly behind the quarterback

    when the ball is snapped to the quarterback he turns around the defense has no idea where the balls going until they break

    and this takes place close to the line of scrimmage than the shotgun

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistics logic is if a player had less than 3 years experience he gets a pass in his first game even if he had 1.5 year on the team

    But if a player has 3+ years experience he doesn’t get a pass even if he is picked up midseason and gets thrown out there right away

    Like always great logic by the great Evaluator of the Qb’s Mistic supa loser

  • xraided

    good list Alex

    i was under the impression the wonderlic has proven to be a bunch of baloney … but apparently not in many cases

  • alex7

    Mistic

    legit rookie QBs like Russell Wilson, RGIII, Luck wowed people from the get-go.

    Wilson was a backup until pre-season, and his first pre-season game was AMAZING.

    Pryor has been in the league 2 years now and is still going 8-24 for a measly 4 yards per attempt, not reading Ds, bad footwork, floating passes.

    You just read NONE OF THAT with the legit day 1 starters.