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Notes, quotes and observations from camp — Day 3

By Steve Corkran
Sunday, July 28th, 2013 at 2:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.

NAPA — The pads went on Sunday for the first time all season as the Raiders enjoyed the contact aspect of the game for a change.
It also might be about time to put on some stickum-laced gloves based on the way the Raiders struggled hanging on to the football.
Today’s practice featured numerous dropped passes, including two each from wide receiver Jacoby Ford and fullback Marcel Reece.
Coach Dennis Allen bemoaned the number of dropped passes Saturday as “way too many.” It seemed as if there were at least a dozen dropped passes Sunday, yet Allen said: “It was better today than it was yesterday.”
Either way you look at it, the Raiders need to do a better job of catching the ball.
To be fair, the Raiders attempted a high number of passes Sunday and their receivers caught a majority of the balls one might expect them to catch.
Allen said it’s going to take time for things to reach the desired level. That’s understandable, given this was the third day of camp and many of the receivers and quarterbacks are new.
“It’s going to be a continual process,” Allen said. “Really, at the end of the day, what it comes down to is concentration. Focus in on the football, make the play when you get the opportunity and that’s what players in the NFL do.”
Tight end David Ausberry was not among those guilty of dropping catchable passes Sunday. He took things in perspective.
“On the whole, things went smooth,” Ausberry said. “We knocked off the rust a little bit, but overall it went well.”

– Ausberry is one of a handful of players vying for the starting spot created by the departure of Brandon Myers.
Ausberry and Richard Gordon are the returning tight ends from last year’s team. Therefore, it’s logical to assume that they have an edge over a cast of other hopefuls.
That list includes draft picks Nick Kasa and Mychal Rivera, as well as Brian Leonhardt and Jeron Mastrud.
Myers entered camp last season lumped in with Ausberry and Gordon. He asserted himself at practice and in Oakland’s exhibition games en route to earning the starting job.
“Absolutely we’re looking for somebody to step up,” Allen said of this year’s group. “That’s what training camp is all about. We want somebody to step up, say that, ‘I’m the man and this is my job.’ We’re going to let the competition dictate that. We’re going to give everybody the opportunity, at least early in camp, to prove that they’re worthy of that title, of being the guy.”

– Cornerback Taiwan Jones intercepted a Matt McGloin pass early in practice as he continues his conversion from running back.
He said that he no longer views himself as a running back, except when he gets his hands on the ball as a result of an interception or a fumble.
“I’m looking to take it to the house,” Jones said of his mind-set when he has the ball.

– Undrafted free agent wide receiver Sam McGuffie missed practice for the second straight day.
Allen isn’t giving specifics on injuries right now, so we’re left to speculate and connect the dots.
The smart money says, McGuffie is recovering from a collision he had with a defensive back Friday. McGuffie took a shot to the head on the play and looked shaken up for a spell afterward.
It’s interesting to note that McGuffie suffered three concussions during his freshman season at Michigan — he finished his career at Rice.

– Cornerback D.J. Hayden still is wearing a red, no-contact jersey in practice. However, he isn’t backing down from sticking his nose in there from time to time.
At one point Saturday, Hayden covered Rod Streater as a member of the first-team defense. So, the Raiders might be easing Hayden into the mix in terms of contact, but certainly not as far as his exposure to the defense.

– Lucas Nix worked at left guard for the second time in three days, with Tony Bergstrom running with the second-team.
Therefore, it’s apparent that offensive line coach Tony Sparano is going to take a long look at both players for a certain length of time before he decides on a replacement for departed veteran Cooper Carlisle.
Same goes at right offensive tackle, where Khalif Barnes is getting the bulk of the reps. Alex Barron and Willie Smith also are getting quite a bit of time at right tackle, mostly as backups.
The rest of the offensive line appears set, with Jared Veldheer the left tackle, Stefen Wisniewski at center and Mike Brisiel at right guard.
Veldheer said he’s impressed by how well the line is jelling under Sparano’s tutelage and despite the conversion from a zone-blocking scheme to a power-blocking scheme.
“It’s coming together well,” Velhdeer said. “Guys have it down very well. People are getting it, and coach Sparano has done a good job of teaching guys how to do it and really understanding the full play and what’s happening. That allows us to go out there and play fast because we’re not thinking about a lot of things.”

– Linebackers Miles Burris, Sio Moore, Kaluka Maiava and Billy Boyko, defensive tackle Pat Sims and offensive tackle Menelik Watson didn’t practice today.
Allen said he expects Maiava to “miss a little bit of time” but that the other injured players don’t appear to be too serious.
Same goes for wide receiver Jacoby Ford, who missed the latter part of practice with an undisclosed injury. He looked fine in the first half of practice, especially on several downfield routes that required him to run at or near full speed.

– Several players mixed it up early in practice, with Barnes emerging from the bottom of the pile, along with a handful of defensive players.
As far as training camp brawls go, this one registers about a 1.0 on a scale of 1-10. Allen dismissed the dustup as business as usual.
“It’s football,” Allen said. “At the end of the day, we got to understand that we can’t hurt our team. We need everybody out there. But you have to practice football. You have to practice it tough, you have to practice it physical and you’re never going to be able to run the ball if you don’t come off the ball and try to knock the heck out of people.
“That’s what we did. First day of practice, you get pads on, everybody’s a little jacked up and it got a little feisty in there. But that’s all right.”

– Terrelle Pryor is throwing the ball with the kind of zip, accuracy and touch that weren’t evident much his first two seasons, let alone during offseason workouts.
Chalk it up to a player that refuses to be told that he can’t succeed as a quarterback in the NFL and works as hard as any of the 88 players on the roster.
“He’s continued to get better,” Allen said. “He’s worked extremely hard at it and anytime you get a talented player that works extremely hard, he’s going to get better. We’re doing some things with him to try to take advantage of his talents. He’s responding to that. He’s going to continue to work. He’s competing. The guy is a competitor, so he’s trying to do everything he can to help this team.”
On one play, Pryor dropped back and fit a ball into tight coverage, right into the waiting arms of receiver Juron Criner. This was a high-difficulty pass that required Pryor to get it over linebacker Keenan Clayton’s hands without launching it too far and into the arms of the defensive back.
“That was definitely a good pass for me,” Pryor said.
In fact, he had numerous good passes and very few that were off the mark.
By Pryor’s estimation: “I missed about three or four balls out of a lot, 83 throws, 90 throws.”
Allen said he isn’t thinking too far down the road in terms of converting Pryor to another position if his progress stalls.
“Our focus is trying to train him as a quarterback,” Allen said. “That’s what we’re working on right now.”

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  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    Raider Riff

    Now you want to start with me?

    Really?

    Whats your beef you don’t like the font I use?

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Haven’t found a race or ethnicity on this planet that doesn’t have some seriously unattractive representatives. Of either sex.
    Which is to say I haven’t found a race or ethnicity on this planet that doesn’t have some seriously smoking babes.

  • mcfadden20.

    Need a pash rusher

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    Whats your beef you don’t like the font I use?
    =====================================================

    I wasn’t going to say anything, but now that you mention it…

  • Marks hair

    there is a girl on the Zoe Deschanel show, I don’t know if she’s Indian or Arab or what exactly I think Indian.. holy Lord is she hot

  • The_Judge37

    1428.mcfadden20. Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
    Is Gaithier going to be able to get by on “Not being Rolando McClain” for another year, or will he be expected to actually produce this year?

    –/–/–/–/–/–/–/–/–/–:–

    Roach is our MLB and we got impressive Sio Moore at strong side , and Burris maiva will come back soon from injuries
    —-

    Sio is hurt too

  • mcfadden20.

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
    Haven’t found a race or ethnicity on this planet that doesn’t have some seriously unattractive representatives. Of either sex.
    Which is to say I haven’t found a race or ethnicity on this planet that doesn’t have some seriously smoking babes.

    — me love all type of smoking babes

  • tonedeezy

    Sio claims he will practice today. we’ll see any second now

  • mcfadden20.

    Marks Hair Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:18 pm
    there is a girl on the Zoe Deschanel show, I don’t know if she’s Indian or Arab or what exactly I think Indian.. holy Lord is she hot

    — what channel?

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    I hate everyone equally it seems to work out better for me that way.

    I can find a thousand reasons to hate a person other than their skin color.

  • Raider Riff

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
    “So what.”

    Your mom that’s what!

    ——–

    Haha. Nice.

  • RaiderRockstar

    me love all type of smoking babes

    ***

    @M20

    what about the ones with hairy pits??

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    SnBG Says:
    20, I’ve seen many beautiful Indian and Arab women. Maybe you’re not looking in the right places.
    =====================================================

    You’re right there. Certain places you look at are more beautiful.

  • The_Judge37

    1452.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
    Haven’t found a race or ethnicity on this planet that doesn’t have some seriously unattractive representatives. Of either sex.
    Which is to say I haven’t found a race or ethnicity on this planet that doesn’t have some seriously smoking babes.

    Not too many fine Filipinas, unless they’re mixed with something else

  • J Hill

    Thought it was interesting Casserly opted out of the Raider discussion.

    Especially since he is ON SITE in Napa.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Love ‘em au natural. Pardon the french, RR. Know how you feel about that.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Texans sign Joe Mays

    sorry gents!

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Raider Riff”

    I do not take this place serious this is entertainment to me.

    Sorry if I offended you.

  • tonedeezy

    The_Judge37 Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:22 pm
    1452.Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
    Haven’t found a race or ethnicity on this planet that doesn’t have some seriously unattractive representatives. Of either sex.
    Which is to say I haven’t found a race or ethnicity on this planet that doesn’t have some seriously smoking babes.

    Not too many fine Filipinas, unless they’re mixed with something else
    ___________________________________________

    Filipinas are all mixed with something.

  • Raider Riff

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:15 pm
    Raider Riff

    Now you want to start with me?

    Really?

    Whats your beef you don’t like the font I use?

    ————-

    No not really.

    I just thought I’d ask what your brother choosing to go join Desert Storm has to do with your disdain for Arab people. It doesnt equate.

    There is nothing racist or wrong about you saying that you dont find Arab or Indian women attractive. Nothing at all. So you dont need to try to justify it with some weird notion that because your brother “heard some stories” about Arab women that you can now make blanket assessments about them.

    You were perfectly ok at saying you dont find them attractive. If that offends people that is on them. Dont take their bait.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Pardon the french, RR. Know how you feel about that.

    ***

    thanks Purv. lol – glad you remembered that (of all things!)

  • SaintKaufman

    NFLN programming….

    Jets, Giants, Redskins, some other team, Redskins, Jets, some other team, Jets, Giants, Eagles, some other team, Eagles, Giants, Jets, Redskins, some other team, Jets, Jets, Eagles, Jets, some other team….sprinkle with Tebow and repeat every hour!!

  • J Hill

    Gaither is a good pickup.

    Surprised he wasn’t resigned earlier.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:20 pm

    I hate everyone equally it seems to work out better for me that way.

    I can find a thousand reasons to hate a person other than their skin color.
    ————————————-
    Quit digging you stupid mfkr. Get a life.

  • Plunketthead

    woohoo fellas We are about to get a decent look at TC if the earlier amps are indicative at nfl net

  • Just Fire Baby

    In the KC shutout game, Omar Gaither played almost the whole game and didn’t make the box score.

    No tackles, no assisted tackles, no passes defenses, no QB pressures or hits.

    Not sure I ever seen a MLB do that.

  • mcfadden20.

    Hell yeah practice started

  • RaiderRockstar

    Gaither is a good pickup.

    Surprised he wasn’t resigned earlier.

    ***

    @Jhill

    Reggie didn’t even know Joe Mays was available. Once again, he fell asleep at the wheel

  • Just Fire Baby

    His 1st year he wasn’t even allowed to Practice and when he finally was, we were in the middle of a playoff run and they had no time for him.

    *************************************

    He was allowed at the facility, and was allowed to work with the staff all year. Just couldn’t go on the practice field with the team for 5 weeks.

    And really, how much practice was a 3rd string rookie QB going to get in 5 weeks?

    Granted it wasn’t a full year, but it was a 3/4 year.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “I just thought I’d ask what your brother choosing to go join Desert Storm has to do with your disdain for Arab people. It doesnt equate.”

    He told me stories about women shltting outside in holes no paper ect.

    Like I said earlier did not want to go into it but I formed an opinion of Arab women after that.

  • Raider Riff

    I know a few attractive Arab women.

    Ive also been told that due to their religion, they wont have sex until married and he has to be Muslim.

    They only consider vagginal interrcourse as “sex”.

    You do the math.

  • tonedeezy

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
    In the KC shutout game, Omar Gaither played almost the whole game and didn’t make the box score.

    No tackles, no assisted tackles, no passes defenses, no QB pressures or hits.

    Not sure I ever seen a MLB do that.
    ___________________________________________________

    It was shutout, so regardless regardless of whether or not he showed up in the stats…as the QB of the defense, he did his job.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    I see the king of hate (KK) is back and I was his first target.

    Nap time is over its off to the “Country Kitchen” with you old man then you will have your nightly enema and its bedtime.

  • Just Fire Baby

    It was shutout, so regardless regardless of whether or not he showed up in the stats…as the QB of the defense, he did his job.

    ***********************************

    Not saying he didn’t.

    Just saying, I never seen a MLB play all game and not make the box score.

    I mean, a guy falls into you and you get an assisted tackle sometimes.

    Think a lot of that had to do with KC going 3 and out for almost 3 quarters. Weren’t many plays for a MLB to make the box score in.

    Just a weird statistical anomaly I found interesting.

  • mcfadden20.

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
    me love all type of smoking babes

    ***

    @M20

    what about the ones with hairy pits??

    - holy fuk lets change the topic lol

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    New post

  • tonedeezy

    yeah i am in agreement.

  • SnBG

    J Hill Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
    Thought it was interesting Casserly opted out of the Raider discussion.

    Especially since he is ON SITE in Napa.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Yes, I found that ineresting also.

  • Raider Riff

    Silverandblack666 Says:

    He told me stories about women shltting outside in holes no paper ect.

    ——————-

    I can list plenty of things that American women do that are much nastier than that.

    Something about glass stones and stone houses or something.

  • The_Judge37

    1479.Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 2:27 pm
    His 1st year he wasn’t even allowed to Practice and when he finally was, we were in the middle of a playoff run and they had no time for him.

    *************************************

    He was allowed at the facility, and was allowed to work with the staff all year. Just couldn’t go on the practice field with the team for 5 weeks.

    And really, how much practice was a 3rd string rookie QB going to get in 5 weeks?

    Granted it wasn’t a full year, but it was a 3/4 year.
    —–

    There was also no training camp or Preseason for him

  • The_Judge37

    It was shutout, so regardless regardless of whether or not he showed up in the stats…as the QB of the defense, he did his job.
    —-

    He was not the QB of the defense, that was Wheeler w/ the mic’d helmet

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Raider Riff Says:
    If we had just 11 guys on the defense that werent spectacular but all just did their jobs, we’d be a dominant defense.
    ======================================================

    Been saying this forever. Sure you were a top 5 defense against the pass. That’s ‘cuz they ran it down your throat all year. Top 5 against the run ‘cuz they lit you up all year. Haven’t we been both one time or another in the last decade? Top ten, anyway. Better to be average than strong here and weak there. IMO.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    For those of you that can’t wait…here’s a preview of Casserly’s interview with TA.

    Just read this and you won’t miss a thing.

    CC: Well Dennis, you came into a really bad situation, how do you plan on turning things around and how are things progressing ?

    TA: Things are going really well. We’re constantly working, constantly trying to improve. I like the group of players we’ve assembled. At the end of the day, we’re going to be fine.

    CC: Palmer gone, so uncertainty at QB…How is Flynn looking ?

    TA: I’m very pleased with Matt. He’s working to improve every day. I’m impressed with what we’ve seen so far. Hard working, intelligent. Wants to win. At the end of the day, he’ll be fine.

    CC: Expect improvement on Defense ?

    TA: Oh, absolutely. I really like the guys we’ve brought in. Hard workers. Guys that want to get better every day. At the end of the day, we’ll be fine.

    CC: What can we expect on offense, Dmac a big part of that ?

    TA: Oh, absolutely. Obviously, DMAC didn’t have the kind of year he’s capable of last year. We’re committed now to putting DMAC, and all of our players, in a position to succeed. At the end of the day, we’re going to be fine.

    CC: How does it feel to be the first transgender HC in the NFL and can I cop a feel of your moobs ?

    TA: I’d prefer that you didn’t, Chuck. They’re a little bit sensitive. But it feels great being the first transgender HC. The Raiders have always been champions of diversity, and I’m proud to continue that tradition. At the end of the day, we’ll be fine.

  • SnBG

    R99, can I touch you’re tities or are they to sensitive this afternoon. Don’t you’re nips get hard when you talk about DA.

  • 0ak r8rs

    J Hill Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 10:31 am
    HE CAN’T THROW

    Hrm, who was right???

    ——————————————————————————

    You were not right then, and you’re still wrong.

    You don’t end up as one of the top 64 QBs in the world not being able to throw.

    There have been nothing but positive reports of him connecting with receivers in camp.

    Cant throw????

    At all???

    You’re wrong, my friend.

    @@@@@@

    Wow. He’s 64th? Where did that list come from? Was it a top 65 list?

    As of two days ago all pertinent evidence showed he cannot throw. I may not be right now of he’s worked it out. But I was right when I said it.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Priesttj12 Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    Marks hair Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 11:19 am
    I remember hearing a lot of people claim that prior have had plenty of coaching and that nothing he could do would fix his mechanics and he would always be another tim Tebow.. none of the prior haters want to stand by their argument now?
    ****************************************
    This is par for the course man. These dudes in here are a JOKE!……………..period

    @@@@@@

    I’ll stand by it. Because what I’ve said from the beginning. When under stress muscle memory reverts to the bad habits. It’s a known sports fact. Anyone that knows anything about sports knows this. No matter how much training you have, when under stress, there is a significant chance you will revert to the old habits. Not always. But a big percentage of the time. Not sure if there is an exact number out there, but its way more than 50%.

    So I’ll stand by it until I see live game production w good technique and hitting his spots. If he can do that, then great. He’s worked it out, fixed his problems, and can be consistent under duress. Until then?

    HE CAN’T THROW.

  • raiderlization

    apparently he can throw now! so move on your story has no longer has steam! LMAO! You don’t think he can throw find a new team cause he is here to stay LMAO!Go Raiders! Al’s last pick is in the building!

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  • Gdog

    Wow. He’s 64th? Where did that list come from? Was it a top 65 list?

    As of two days ago all pertinent evidence showed he cannot throw. I may not be right now of he’s worked it out. But I was right when I said it.

    >>>

    There would be nothing better for the Raiders in long term solutions if Pryor indeed did suddenly learn how to throw… why? He’s such an amazing athlete? But Pryor himself admitted the same thing many have been saying all along.. he had no idea what he was doing.

    The Pryor Brigade chastised everyone for saying the obvious.

    I hope he has turned the page… if he’s anywhere near Flynn in passing ability he should be hands down the Raider starter this season.

    I don’t see it happening…

  • Gdog

    0ak r8rs Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Priesttj12 Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    Marks hair Says:
    July 29th, 2013 at 11:19 am
    I remember hearing a lot of people claim that prior have had plenty of coaching and that nothing he could do would fix his mechanics and he would always be another tim Tebow.. none of the prior haters want to stand by their argument now?
    ****************************************
    This is par for the course man. These dudes in here are a JOKE!……………..period

    @@@@@@

    I’ll stand by it. Because what I’ve said from the beginning. When under stress muscle memory reverts to the bad habits. It’s a known sports fact. Anyone that knows anything about sports knows this. No matter how much training you have, when under stress, there is a significant chance you will revert to the old habits. Not always. But a big percentage of the time. Not sure if there is an exact number out there, but its way more than 50%.

    So I’ll stand by it until I see live game production w good technique and hitting his spots. If he can do that, then great. He’s worked it out, fixed his problems, and can be consistent under duress. Until then?

    HE CAN’T THROW.

    >>>

    Wow.. I’ve said the same thing a bunch of times myself… well said!

    Its like a golf swing… if you start off with horrible habits, no matter how much you practice, the old habits always bite you in the ass at the worst times.

    I don’t see Pryor ever being a top notch starting QB in the NFL only because he started off with such horrible mechanics.