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Notes, quotes and observations from camp — Day 4

By Steve Corkran
Monday, July 29th, 2013 at 7:51 pm in Oakland Raiders.

NAPA — Coach Dennis Allen said that rookie cornerback D.J. Hayden basically is ready to go mentally and physically. The only thing holding back Hayden from taking the next step in his recovery from two surgeries is an abundance of caution on the Raiders part.
That’s understandable, given the Raiders selected Hayden in the first round of the NFL draft in April and signed him to a contract worth more than $10 million.
Allen is so confident in Hayden’s progress that he said Hayden definitely will play an exhibition game at some point, if not the first one.
If Hayden had his way, he would have ditched the red, no-contact jersey that he sports at practice. On more than one occasion, defensive coaches have had to remind Hayden to throttle down and avoid contact.
“He wants to go,” Allen said Monday. “That’s the great thing about him. That speaks to the type of guys that we’re trying to bring in here, guys that love playing football. He wants to practice and play.
“Most of these guys have been doing it since elementary school and that’s all they really know. DJ’s that type of guy, and I’m excited about the fact that he’s ready mentally and physically. But we’re going to take a little bit of time and stay on the cautious side of things and make sure he’s totally ready before we put him in a contact drill.
Tracy Porter and Joselio Hanson are getting the most reps in the slot, while Hayden is spending all his time on the outside. Hayden is getting some reps with the first-team defense as defensive coordinator Jason Tarver gauges just what he has in his newest toy.
To recap, Hayden suffered a ruptured a vein during a freak accident in practice at the University of Houston last November. the kind of injury that Hayden suffered almost always is fatal.
He underwent another surgery in May to remove scar tissue in his abdominal region and wasn’t cleared to practice again until Friday.

– Quarterbacks play was pretty sharp once again, just as it has been for most of camp.
At one point Monday, Matt Flynn, Tyler Wilson, Terrelle Pryor and Matt McGloin were having their way with the defense.
One particular passing drill featured touchdown passes to tight ends Jeron Mastrud, David Ausberry and Richard Gordon, with Ausberry and Gordon encountering little resistance.
Pryor and Flynn had a couple of misfires, to go with a handful of plays where they would have been sacked if defenders were allowed to tackle them, but by and large, the quarterbacks aren’t having much difficulty with the snap, the dropback, the reads and their throws.

– Backup offensive tackle Alex Barron made quite a showing during one-on-one blocking drills.
He swallowed up rookie defensive end David Bass twice and, for good measure, stoned end Lamarr Houston.
Sure, it’s only a few plays, but Barron is a guy that the Raiders are taking a long look at for the right offensive tackle spot. He’s also getting some time as a backup at left tackle.

– Quite a scare for Lucas Nix today, when he went down in a heap early on in practice, writhing in pain and grabbing at his left knee.
A couple of team trainers rushed to Nix’s aid, evaluated Nix’s condition and decided it was best to take Nix in for further evaluation.
Allen said Nix’s injury fell into the category of normal bumps and bruises associated with the rigors of training camp. Nix might beg to differ, but we’ll take Allen’s word for now.
Nix is competing against Tony Bergstrom for the starting spot at left guard. Therefore, he can’t afford to miss much time, if any.

– Nose tackle Johnny Jones, defensive tackle Vance Walker and defensive lineman Brandon Bair also suffered injuries that were serious enough to keep them off the field for part of practice.
Again, Allen said, these injuries likely aren’t much to worry about in terms of being long-term deals.

– The Raiders didn’t waste any time putting linebacker Omar Gaither to work.
He was in Charlotte, N.C., on Sunday. Less than 24 hours later, he was in Napa playing linebacker for the Raiders.
Allen said the Raiders liked what Gaither did for them in the seven games he played here last season. Therefore, when a slew of linebackers went down with injury, Gaither’s name was the first one that came up.
“You have to know that sooner or later call is going to happen,” Gaither said. “I feel like I played good enough last year to feel like I would be on some team’s roster. I was getting some feelers out there but I finally got a call from Oakland and I was ready to go.”
Gaither played middle linebacker for the Raiders last season. He also has starting experience at the strong-side and weak-side spots. For now, he’s playing in the middle, behind starter Nick Roach.
“His versatility is good for us,” Allen said. “He spent a lot of time at Mike linebacker, that’s where we played him today. That’s where we’ll start him out. But he’s a smart enough player and versatile enough player that he can play a couple of different positions for us.”

– Wide receiver Jacoby Ford was in uniform and on the practice field today. However, he did not participate in any drills during the two-and-one-half-hour practice.
Allen still isn’t divulging the nature of Ford’s injury, which occurred Sunday. For what it’s worth, Ford walked without a limp and didn’t have any obvious signs of injury.
“It’s a little bit more of a precautionary deal,” Allen said. “But we need Jacoby out here. He’s missed a lot of time and he’s got to get some work. He had a couple of good days of practice so it’s unfortunate that he’s a little bit nicked up. But I don’t anticipate him being out real long.”

– Rookie defensive tackle Stacy McGee impressed during one-on-one drills. He displayed the ability to get a big push into the backfield, which is something the Raiders need from their interior linemen.
Vance Walker and Pat Sims are the projected starters and the replacements for departed veterans Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour. Beyond that, the Raiders are hopeful that McGee or someone else, if not more than one player, emerges as a player capable of making an impact along the lines of Desmond Bryant last season.

– There weren’t nearly as many dropped balls today as there was each of the past two days.
Again, Allen said, it’s all part of the process. One day of sure-handed grabs is nice. Two is better. And so on.
“It was better,” Allen said of his receivers’ play. “What we have to do is keep stacking bricks on top of each other. We’re trying to build a foundation with this team of what type of team we’re going to be. We’re trying to find guys to go out and make plays for us. That’s what you do in the NFL.”
Undrafted rookie Greg Jenkins quickly has earned a reputation as a guy that makes difficult catches look easy and drops seemingly routine throws.
Perhaps that’s to be expected from a guy that played quarterback in college and is making the conversion to receiver in the pros.
On Monday, he made two eye-opening grabs despite tight coverage. He made it through the day without any drops, for a change.

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  • mcfadden20.

    SnBG Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:55 pm
    Garlic Chicken Pizza is also good and I do like some B.B.Q Chic Pizza too Mc20

    I like the one from California pizza kitchen, there BBQ chicken pizza is really good

  • Ghosttoothepost

    Raider O Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    Pig is a nasty animal. Pass.
    ==========
    No bacon? Pork chops?

  • mcfadden20.

    Beeeeeech Dawg N Full Effect Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    Mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
    Way way I’m melting Down wah wah there I said it , saved you time so you can get 10 bjs from all parts of the world in 1 minute

    ————-

    The best is when the Dawg has his minions so well trained they know exactly when to meltdown, then politely inform the Dawg for his records

    McFailin’, the Dawg is going to use you as an example for his minions-in-training

    Shout out to Fab 5 Freddy, holla back, WHUT

    -
    Aww why did you waste time by responding to me , you realize that could have gotten 50 bjs in 2 minutes of that time?

  • mcfadden20.

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:58 pm
    You haven’t eaten until you’ve

    - had a fresh baked croissant or beignet in Paris
    - had a pizza or the vodka pasta in Rome
    - eaten the seppie (cuttlefish) in Venice
    - eaten tapas and tortilla Espanola in Spain
    - eaten fresh fish caught same day in Portugal

    And I admit I haven’t done it but eating fresh made food in India prob should be on the list too. I just wanted to point out that there’s a lot of good food out there to make that claim, McFadden20

    Also, not sure where you live, but fresh prepared food can be had in the bay. Stop eating the fast food. It’s poison.

    Yah trying to stay away from fast good places, but ur right great good is every where :)

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:07 pm
    Raider O Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    Pig is a nasty animal. Pass.
    ==========
    No bacon? Pork chops?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    Nothing.

  • The Big Banana

    Those that disagree with me on Mexican vs French…

    Tell me what Mexican dish bests a well prepared dish of mussels in white wine with fries, or steak frites, or croque Madame, or a well made quiche, or foie gras?

    Please…no comparison.

  • mcfadden20.

    Beeeeeech Dawg N Full Effect Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    Mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    Barbecue chicken pizza will do for me

    ————-

    Really, how interesting, please tell us more about your likes, Mr. Smiley face dork


    Damn feel so special you took time out of your busy day filled with entertainment left and right anybody would kill for , to post a comment on this poor guy

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    PMPP rules. I think Beeech is funny.

  • mcfadden20.

    Has anyone tried Lamb meat

  • bigsnow81

    I dig me some swine. Rack of Lamb is great.

  • The_Judge37

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
    Those that disagree with me on Mexican vs French…

    Tell me what Mexican dish bests a well prepared dish of mussels in white wine with fries, or steak frites, or croque Madame, or a well made quiche, or foie gras?
    ——–

    Ceviche

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Is this the ladies cooking class?

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.

  • hwnrdr

    909.mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
    Has anyone tried Lamb meat

    Love it!

  • mcfadden20.

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
    Those that disagree with me on Mexican vs French…

    Tell me what Mexican dish bests a well prepared dish of mussels in white wine with fries, or steak frites, or croque Madame, or a well made quiche, or foie gras?

    Please…no comparison.


    Haven’t tried any of the food you mentioned but I love Mexican food , maybe because I like spicy food

  • SnBG

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
    Those that disagree with me on Mexican vs French…

    Tell me what Mexican dish bests a well prepared dish of mussels in white wine with fries, or steak frites, or croque Madame, or a well made quiche, or foie gras?

    Please…no comparison.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    You can’t compare them. They’re different cultures both good in their own right. Mole sauce is as good as any French sauce in it’s own way..

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
    Those that disagree with me on Mexican vs French…

    Tell me what Mexican dish bests a well prepared dish of mussels in white wine with fries, or steak frites, or croque Madame, or a well made quiche, or foie gras?

    Please…no comparison.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Fresh tortilla, carne asada, guacamole, and fresh salsa…….. Boom!!
    Take that French food.

  • Beeeeeech Dawg N Full Effect

    Brahs, my ex-girlfriend Monique just stopped by the suite, she wanted to pick up her high heels and a box of Magnums she said she paid for

    We suddenly both started crying at our romance gone wrong and laid down on the waterbed to spoon

    Before either of us knew it we were in the 69 position and the Lawg was getting set for maximum ejaculatory performance

    But Monique stopped and, through her tears, said it’s probably best if she leaves and we move on

    I agreed, but we did do a quick bung insertion hump in the hallway right before she left

    I’ll always remember that last special mayonnaise explosion

    SHOUT OUT TO NICHOLAS SPARKS

  • mcfadden20.

    Hwnrdr Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
    909.mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:12 pm
    Has anyone tried Lamb meat

    Love it!

    That’s what I’m talking about

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    The_Judge37 Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
    The Big Banana Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
    Those that disagree with me on Mexican vs French…

    Tell me what Mexican dish bests a well prepared dish of mussels in white wine with fries, or steak frites, or croque Madame, or a well made quiche, or foie gras?
    ——–

    Ceviche
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Ooooh
    Good one.

  • bigsnow81

    “I’ll eat a pigs azz if you cook it right.” (Chris Rock)

    With that said, I will never be able to stomach Rocky Mountain oysters or kopi luwak coffee.

  • mcfadden20.

    Beeeeeech Dawg N Full Effect Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:16 pm
    Brahs, my ex-girlfriend Monique just stopped by the suite, she wanted to pick up her high heels and a box of Magnums she said she paid for

    We suddenly both started crying at our romance gone wrong and laid down on the waterbed to spoon

    Before either of us knew it we were in the 69 position and the Lawg was getting set for maximum ejaculatory performance

    But Monique stopped and, through her tears, said it’s probably best if she leaves and we move on

    I agreed, but we did do a quick bung insertion hump in the hallway right before she left

    I’ll always remember that last special mayonnaise explosion

    SHOUT OUT TO NICHOLAS SPARKS-

    When did this all happened? 1 minute ago ? So cool

  • The Big Banana

    Ceviche is Mexican? Lol. They all look alike, right. Racists!

  • SnBG

    Tell me what Mexican dish bests a well prepared dish of mussels in white wine with fries, or steak frites, or croque Madame, or a well made quiche, or foie gras?
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Cochinita Pibil

  • bigsnow81

    French food is elegant. Don’t get me wrong Mexican food is my favorite. Pesole is as good as it gets.

  • mcfadden20.

    Shout out to cork the Godzilla for keeping us updated on our beloved Raiders

    Holla, yeah yeah , whut whut, snap your fingers , yada yada

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Lmao!!!!

    The notion of a Wilson vs Flynn qb battle is losing steam by the second.

    Created by media hype & touted by so called fans both groups dead set against Pryor, it is now proving beyond foolish. Wilson was being entered into a qb battle by some posters here sight unseen. He was ceremoniously anointed the future & heralded as the starter in waiting by many poorly informed fans & talking heads.

    Pryor was not only an after thought among those circles but was hoped to be cut or traded.

    Looks like that was hot garbage & Pryor is actually in better position to claim heir apperent,

    It will be even more evident when preseason starts

    Told you so

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    TBB,

    Try taco el gordo. Make you forget about French food and eating snails.

  • mcfadden20.

    Just looked up Ceviche , looks and sounds really good

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:20 pm
    Ceviche is Mexican? Lol. They all look alike, right. Racists!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    LMAO
    It’s not Mexican?
    Still lol

  • mcfadden20.

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
    Lmao!!!!

    The notion of a Wilson vs Flynn qb battle is losing steam by the second.

    Created by media hype & touted by so called fans both groups dead set against Pryor, it is now proving beyond foolish. Wilson was being entered into a qb battle by some posters here sight unseen. He was ceremoniously anointed the future & heralded as the starter in waiting by many poorly informed fans & talking heads.

    Pryor was not only an after thought among those circles but was hoped to be cut or traded.

    Looks like that was hot garbage & Pryor is actually in better position to claim heir apperent,

    It will be even more evident when preseason starts

    Told you so–

    What’s your favorite food?

  • bigsnow81

    Mistic has been taking all the heat. You should gloat the most if Pryor wins the QB battle.

  • mcfadden20.

    Myopic Mistic likes white men flesh

  • Marks hair

    lunch was awhile ago.. I dont wanna talk food for hrs.. fattys

  • mcfadden20.

    He’s going to gloat whether he wins or not , # Palmers fault

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Bigsnow81 Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:24 pm
    Mistic has been taking all the heat. You should gloat the most if Pryor wins the QB battle.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Don’t forget about me and RR. We are the TP fan club. We supported TP before Mistic.

  • SnBG

    Bigsnow81 Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:21 pm
    French food is elegant. Don’t get me wrong Mexican food is my favorite. Pesole is as good as it gets.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Both foods can be elegant but also can have a peasant flair to them. Ever had a Cassoulet or Cream of Chaya soup?

  • mcfadden20.

    Fat ass

  • mcfadden20.

    Fat ass mark , you were munching for 3 hours?

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “French food is elegant.”

    Exactly why I would not expect most here to get it.

  • bigsnow81

    I had crawfish etouffee, fried alligator, and a deep fried soft shell crab sandwich while down in the dirty. Louisiana has the best cousin I have ever had.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Marks Hair Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
    lunch was awhile ago.. I dont wanna talk food for hrs.. fattys
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Eat a 2nd lunch and relax. You can call it a snack, if it makes you feel better. lol

  • SnBG

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:23 pm
    Just looked up Ceviche , looks and sounds really good
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Shrimp Maya Ceviche, try it. Easy to make.

  • mcfadden20.

    I hope Pryor wins the job, it means he worked on his arm this summer

  • bigsnow81

    It’s hard to keep up with the 5k posters. Count me as a Pryor supporter. He has a high ceiling.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “I had crawfish etouffee, fried alligator, and a deep fried soft shell crab sandwich ”

    Have you ever eaten abalone?

  • Marks hair

    im gonna snack on this joint.. keeps me lean

  • bigsnow81

    No abalone, I only enjoy grilled oysters on a half shell.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    New post.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Hey 99 and Trapp,

    Hear what the experts say about DA on NFL radio? That question was for you. He’s had some challenges and it wasn’t perfect but he did a great job as a rookie coach. He knows what he wants. He’s not afraid to admit mistakes and upgrade staff. And no matter what happens this year, he deserves and should have another shot next year.

    Yea. That question was for you and Trapp and all the other DA haters. He’s in an impossible situation. But it’s getting better. And the “professionals” think he’s getting better right along with it.

    So get off his @ss.