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Notes, quotes and observations from camp — Day 4

By Steve Corkran
Monday, July 29th, 2013 at 7:51 pm in Oakland Raiders.

NAPA — Coach Dennis Allen said that rookie cornerback D.J. Hayden basically is ready to go mentally and physically. The only thing holding back Hayden from taking the next step in his recovery from two surgeries is an abundance of caution on the Raiders part.
That’s understandable, given the Raiders selected Hayden in the first round of the NFL draft in April and signed him to a contract worth more than $10 million.
Allen is so confident in Hayden’s progress that he said Hayden definitely will play an exhibition game at some point, if not the first one.
If Hayden had his way, he would have ditched the red, no-contact jersey that he sports at practice. On more than one occasion, defensive coaches have had to remind Hayden to throttle down and avoid contact.
“He wants to go,” Allen said Monday. “That’s the great thing about him. That speaks to the type of guys that we’re trying to bring in here, guys that love playing football. He wants to practice and play.
“Most of these guys have been doing it since elementary school and that’s all they really know. DJ’s that type of guy, and I’m excited about the fact that he’s ready mentally and physically. But we’re going to take a little bit of time and stay on the cautious side of things and make sure he’s totally ready before we put him in a contact drill.
Tracy Porter and Joselio Hanson are getting the most reps in the slot, while Hayden is spending all his time on the outside. Hayden is getting some reps with the first-team defense as defensive coordinator Jason Tarver gauges just what he has in his newest toy.
To recap, Hayden suffered a ruptured a vein during a freak accident in practice at the University of Houston last November. the kind of injury that Hayden suffered almost always is fatal.
He underwent another surgery in May to remove scar tissue in his abdominal region and wasn’t cleared to practice again until Friday.

– Quarterbacks play was pretty sharp once again, just as it has been for most of camp.
At one point Monday, Matt Flynn, Tyler Wilson, Terrelle Pryor and Matt McGloin were having their way with the defense.
One particular passing drill featured touchdown passes to tight ends Jeron Mastrud, David Ausberry and Richard Gordon, with Ausberry and Gordon encountering little resistance.
Pryor and Flynn had a couple of misfires, to go with a handful of plays where they would have been sacked if defenders were allowed to tackle them, but by and large, the quarterbacks aren’t having much difficulty with the snap, the dropback, the reads and their throws.

– Backup offensive tackle Alex Barron made quite a showing during one-on-one blocking drills.
He swallowed up rookie defensive end David Bass twice and, for good measure, stoned end Lamarr Houston.
Sure, it’s only a few plays, but Barron is a guy that the Raiders are taking a long look at for the right offensive tackle spot. He’s also getting some time as a backup at left tackle.

– Quite a scare for Lucas Nix today, when he went down in a heap early on in practice, writhing in pain and grabbing at his left knee.
A couple of team trainers rushed to Nix’s aid, evaluated Nix’s condition and decided it was best to take Nix in for further evaluation.
Allen said Nix’s injury fell into the category of normal bumps and bruises associated with the rigors of training camp. Nix might beg to differ, but we’ll take Allen’s word for now.
Nix is competing against Tony Bergstrom for the starting spot at left guard. Therefore, he can’t afford to miss much time, if any.

– Nose tackle Johnny Jones, defensive tackle Vance Walker and defensive lineman Brandon Bair also suffered injuries that were serious enough to keep them off the field for part of practice.
Again, Allen said, these injuries likely aren’t much to worry about in terms of being long-term deals.

– The Raiders didn’t waste any time putting linebacker Omar Gaither to work.
He was in Charlotte, N.C., on Sunday. Less than 24 hours later, he was in Napa playing linebacker for the Raiders.
Allen said the Raiders liked what Gaither did for them in the seven games he played here last season. Therefore, when a slew of linebackers went down with injury, Gaither’s name was the first one that came up.
“You have to know that sooner or later call is going to happen,” Gaither said. “I feel like I played good enough last year to feel like I would be on some team’s roster. I was getting some feelers out there but I finally got a call from Oakland and I was ready to go.”
Gaither played middle linebacker for the Raiders last season. He also has starting experience at the strong-side and weak-side spots. For now, he’s playing in the middle, behind starter Nick Roach.
“His versatility is good for us,” Allen said. “He spent a lot of time at Mike linebacker, that’s where we played him today. That’s where we’ll start him out. But he’s a smart enough player and versatile enough player that he can play a couple of different positions for us.”

– Wide receiver Jacoby Ford was in uniform and on the practice field today. However, he did not participate in any drills during the two-and-one-half-hour practice.
Allen still isn’t divulging the nature of Ford’s injury, which occurred Sunday. For what it’s worth, Ford walked without a limp and didn’t have any obvious signs of injury.
“It’s a little bit more of a precautionary deal,” Allen said. “But we need Jacoby out here. He’s missed a lot of time and he’s got to get some work. He had a couple of good days of practice so it’s unfortunate that he’s a little bit nicked up. But I don’t anticipate him being out real long.”

– Rookie defensive tackle Stacy McGee impressed during one-on-one drills. He displayed the ability to get a big push into the backfield, which is something the Raiders need from their interior linemen.
Vance Walker and Pat Sims are the projected starters and the replacements for departed veterans Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour. Beyond that, the Raiders are hopeful that McGee or someone else, if not more than one player, emerges as a player capable of making an impact along the lines of Desmond Bryant last season.

– There weren’t nearly as many dropped balls today as there was each of the past two days.
Again, Allen said, it’s all part of the process. One day of sure-handed grabs is nice. Two is better. And so on.
“It was better,” Allen said of his receivers’ play. “What we have to do is keep stacking bricks on top of each other. We’re trying to build a foundation with this team of what type of team we’re going to be. We’re trying to find guys to go out and make plays for us. That’s what you do in the NFL.”
Undrafted rookie Greg Jenkins quickly has earned a reputation as a guy that makes difficult catches look easy and drops seemingly routine throws.
Perhaps that’s to be expected from a guy that played quarterback in college and is making the conversion to receiver in the pros.
On Monday, he made two eye-opening grabs despite tight coverage. He made it through the day without any drops, for a change.

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  • SnBG

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    Palmer looks good throwing today.

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    There are no 4th quarters in training camp
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    Of course not silly guy but he looks good in camp. Balls coming out fast and strait. Hitting everyone. Him and Fitz will light it up. We will miss him soon enough.

  • Beeeeeech Dawg N Full Effect

    Problem with Persian ho’s is they never shave their cooters

    The Lawg is always stuck wading through the weeds on the way to the swamp

    I once told this super nasty Persian housewife (with massive Triple Ds) that I’d let her ride the Lawg if she shaved her beev and moustache

    She got all crazy and started calling her brothers so the Dawg jumped the backyard fence

    On the way home scored some Long John Silvers so that night ended well

    THAT CHICK WAS A MIDDLE EAST BEAST

  • mcfadden20.

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:15 pm
    Abrahm wanted go to a team that’s ready to compete

    ***

    @M20

    the Cards haven’t been “ready to compete” since 2009!

    — since their last decent QB left you mean , they got a decent QB now , tey will make some noise

  • RaiderRockstar

    I am a 40 year old virgin living in my moms basement.

    ***

    @silver

    I have NEVER mistaken you for that cousin humper (MR)

  • mcfadden20.

    Beech good imagination , I give you props for that

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    You did say this:

    “can’t beat the daily fresh meat”

  • mcfadden20.

    I love American food too hotdogs, and stuff but ….

  • SnBG

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
    “no, I hope to one day, but food in india much fresher than anything you get over here an much much tastier”
    Fresher? You believe that all Indian food is transported?
    How can it be fresher?
    You buy fresh meat at the deli, buy fresh veggies wherever, same with spices.
    Sorry, but it tastes the way it does, over here, because that’s just the way it tastes.

    — fresh cut meat right in front of you if you like , fruits veggies everything tastes much better
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    I don’t know where you live but the S.F. Bay Area puts out some of the freshest food you can get anywhere in the world.

  • Ghosttoothepost

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    “Hefty claim. Have you been around the world?”

    One would think Paris France might rank up there…
    =====================
    Was way down my list, both on food, and especially the ppl.
    Up there was Italy, Greece, Spain, and Scotland, both for food and nice ppl.
    So so was GB, Germany, and India.
    Maybe it was the french ppl that turned me off to the food.
    Definitely puts a sour taste in your mouth, especially when they realize you’re American.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Correction – Pryor looks good in camp. Balls coming out fast and strait. Hitting everyone. Him and Streater will light it up. We are lucky to have him.

    ***

    @SnBG

    that’s what you meant, right?

  • mcfadden20.

    Cork better have some nice articles for today and tomorrow , can’t go a day without Raider football anymore

  • Beeeeeech Dawg N Full Effect

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
    Beeeeeech

    We caught him in a fake flight. He was too dumb to stay away from the keyboard when he was supposed to be in flight.

    He tried acting like he just got off a flight from Seattle Sea/Tac airport when someone said how is that possible you just posted one hour thirty minutes ago that is almost 2 hour flight.

    Then he tried backpedaling saying that the flight back is faster than the flight up there (using tailwind as an excuse for a plane traveling South)

    I reminded him yesterday of this….it will strike a nerve if you mention it.

    ————-

    Excellent work Triple 6. The Old Troll is at his most amusing when he’s cornered, krapping his trousers and grasping for invisible straws

    In other words, a typical Monday

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Best American food is Hamburgers.

  • Ghosttoothepost

    SnBG Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
    “no, I hope to one day, but food in india much fresher than anything you get over here an much much tastier”
    Fresher? You believe that all Indian food is transported?
    How can it be fresher?
    You buy fresh meat at the deli, buy fresh veggies wherever, same with spices.
    Sorry, but it tastes the way it does, over here, because that’s just the way it tastes.

    — fresh cut meat right in front of you if you like , fruits veggies everything tastes much better
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    I don’t know where you live but the S.F. Bay Area puts out some of the freshest food you can get anywhere in the world.
    =========
    That was my point. madden20 stated it’s fresher food in India.
    In the bay area, veggies are grown here, beef raised here.
    can’t get it any fresher than that.

  • mcfadden20.

    Indian food isn’t for everyone , just like Mexican food, not everyone can handle spice

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Mexican food is GREAT!

    Viva Mexico!!

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “I have NEVER mistaken you for that cousin humper (MR)”

    Now you are prejudice against inbred people?

    Great RR I thought I could rely on you to be more neutral.

    want to buy my Palmer jersey?

  • SnBG

    Was way down my list, both on food, and especially the ppl.
    Up there was Italy, Greece, Spain, and Scotland, both for food and nice ppl.
    So so was GB, Germany, and India.
    Maybe it was the french ppl that turned me off to the food.
    Definitely puts a sour taste in your mouth, especially when they realize you’re American.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    I don’t know where in France you have been but I’ve met some of the nicest French folks all over France.

  • Ghosttoothepost

    Beeeeeech Dawg N Full Effect Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:14 pm
    Beeeeeech

    We caught him in a fake flight. He was too dumb to stay away from the keyboard when he was supposed to be in flight.

    He tried acting like he just got off a flight from Seattle Sea/Tac airport when someone said how is that possible you just posted one hour thirty minutes ago that is almost 2 hour flight.

    Then he tried backpedaling saying that the flight back is faster than the flight up there (using tailwind as an excuse for a plane traveling South)

    I reminded him yesterday of this….it will strike a nerve if you mention it.

    ————-

    Excellent work Triple 6. The Old Troll is at his most amusing when he’s cornered, krapping his trousers and grasping for invisible straws

    In other words, a typical Monday
    —————————–
    didn’t kell do this last couple of times he was supposed to be on vacation? supposedly was blogging, every day, while the wife was off flogging?

  • SnBG

    Now Paris can be a problem. People there can be very rude and a lot of the French women can be btchs.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Ghosttoothepost”

    Have you eaten at any French places here in the Bay Area?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Latavius Murray gets some rookie hazing. Marvel Reece made him carry his helmet and pads from practice field

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    SnBG Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
    Was way down my list, both on food, and especially the ppl.
    Up there was Italy, Greece, Spain, and Scotland, both for food and nice ppl.
    So so was GB, Germany, and India.
    Maybe it was the french ppl that turned me off to the food.
    Definitely puts a sour taste in your mouth, especially when they realize you’re American.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    I don’t know where in France you have been but I’ve met some of the nicest French folks all over France.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$

    F the French!
    Freedom fries and Freedom Toast rules!!

  • Breaking_Black

    Raider O Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
    Best American food is Hamburgers.
    —-
    Southern Fried Chicken wins for me.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    If you come to the South Bay I have a couple of French restaurants I would recommend.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:24 pm

    Indian food isn’t for everyone , just like Mexican food, not everyone can handle spice

    ====================================

    I’ve been told that if you ever go to an Indian restaurant, get EVERYTHING “mild.” Anything else will put you on the throne for a week.

  • mcfadden20.

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    SnBG Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
    “no, I hope to one day, but food in india much fresher than anything you get over here an much much tastier”
    Fresher? You believe that all Indian food is transported?
    How can it be fresher?
    You buy fresh meat at the deli, buy fresh veggies wherever, same with spices.
    Sorry, but it tastes the way it does, over here, because that’s just the way it tastes.

    — fresh cut meat right in front of you if you like , fruits veggies everything tastes much better
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    I don’t know where you live but the S.F. Bay Area puts out some of the freshest food you can get anywhere in the world.
    =========
    That was my point. madden20 stated it’s fresher food in India.
    In the bay area, veggies are grown here, beef raised here.
    can’t get it any fresher than that.

    In India veggies are grown in your back yard , in your own farms, chicken and other animals are raised from walking distance where you can get them alive n bring home cut clean n cook n enjoy

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Breaking_Black Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:28 pm
    Raider O Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
    Best American food is Hamburgers.
    —-
    Southern Fried Chicken wins for me.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I forgot about that.
    Its a tie.

  • SnBG

    In Paris you can be standing in a line waiting for something and those Parisians make it an art to cut in front of you. You have to learn to be like an Offensive lineman to keep them from cutting in front of you.

  • mcfadden20.

    Love southern fried chicken and totally live Mexican food

  • mcfadden20.

    Love pizza though ;)

  • mcfadden20.

    Are they still practicing ?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
    Love pizza though
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    That’s Italian.

  • SnBG

    In India veggies are grown in your back yard , in your own farms, chicken and other animals are raised from walking distance where you can get them alive n bring home cut clean n cook n enjoy
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Indian food is amazing. I’ve not been to India but I have a friend who’s traveled all over India and he tells me some of the restaurants we’ve been to are very authentic. There’s a chef in Oakland that has traveled all over India and brought back recipes from different regions. His food is amazing.

  • mcfadden20.

    Love KFC lol

  • mcfadden20.

    Raider O Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
    Mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
    Love pizza though
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    That’s Italian.

    — love Italian good :) Italian style pizzas

  • SnBG

    Seafood from S.F. Dugeness crab are all American food and out of this world.

  • mcfadden20.

    love Chinese/Vietnamese food too

  • mcfadden20.

    Love shrimps

  • Beeeeeech Dawg N Full Effect

    Yes, KrappyRat enjoys traveling internationally on his wife’s dime and then spends his days getting plastered while getting ruined on the blog

    He’s my old pal, so I gots to stand up for him – it beats sitting around his 1 bd apt. getting plastered while getting ruined on the blog

    Any of you nerds know where the Old Troll gets his hair cut?

    Would love an Instagram shot of the pootbutt getting a fresh conk while all the barbers are busting up

    HELLZ 2 THA WIZZLE

  • mcfadden20.

    Loved fish fry in India :)

  • SnBG

    I love when you go to a restaurant that blends cultures in it’s food. Fusion is awesome. The best of many cultures and counties.

  • mcfadden20.

    Would love an Instagram shot of the pootbutt getting a fresh conk while all the barbers are busting up

    HELLZ 2 THA WIZZLE

    — love to see Instagram shot of the b1tchdawg begging girls to sleep with him

  • Ghosttoothepost

    Interesting point brought up, above.
    Poster after poster stated Pryor had issues. those posters were attacked and accused of prejudice. Granted, was only by a few, but was the same claims, and the same accusations.
    Now Pryor is saying the exact same thing about his play, his mechanics, and his results.

    I wonder if the posters who attacked everyone for their observations, will now apologize, and admit they were wrong??

    Ok, stop laughing now.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    The pizza served here in America can’t really be called “Italian.”

  • SnBG

    I used to love listening to Madden talk about Turdunken. Now that’s American.

  • mcfadden20.

    Way way I’m melting Down wah wah there I said it , saved you time so you can get 10 bjs from all parts of the world in 1 minute

  • SnBG

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    The pizza served here in America can’t really be called “Italian.”
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    Why not?

  • hwnrdr

    Just seen a tweet saying that injuries are mounting…
    Connor Vernon, Stacy McGee and Alex Parsons

  • mcfadden20.

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    Interesting point brought up, above.
    Poster after poster stated Pryor had issues. those posters were attacked and accused of prejudice. Granted, was only by a few, but was the same claims, and the same accusations.
    Now Pryor is saying the exact same thing about his play, his mechanics, and his results.

    I wonder if the posters who attacked everyone for their observations, will now apologize, and admit they were wrong??

    Ok, stop laughing now.

    -

    We would never get an apology from Pryor brigade especially Miss Tick and Priest , they’ll never own upto anything