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Notes, quotes and observations from camp — Day 4

By Steve Corkran
Monday, July 29th, 2013 at 7:51 pm in Oakland Raiders.

NAPA — Coach Dennis Allen said that rookie cornerback D.J. Hayden basically is ready to go mentally and physically. The only thing holding back Hayden from taking the next step in his recovery from two surgeries is an abundance of caution on the Raiders part.
That’s understandable, given the Raiders selected Hayden in the first round of the NFL draft in April and signed him to a contract worth more than $10 million.
Allen is so confident in Hayden’s progress that he said Hayden definitely will play an exhibition game at some point, if not the first one.
If Hayden had his way, he would have ditched the red, no-contact jersey that he sports at practice. On more than one occasion, defensive coaches have had to remind Hayden to throttle down and avoid contact.
“He wants to go,” Allen said Monday. “That’s the great thing about him. That speaks to the type of guys that we’re trying to bring in here, guys that love playing football. He wants to practice and play.
“Most of these guys have been doing it since elementary school and that’s all they really know. DJ’s that type of guy, and I’m excited about the fact that he’s ready mentally and physically. But we’re going to take a little bit of time and stay on the cautious side of things and make sure he’s totally ready before we put him in a contact drill.
Tracy Porter and Joselio Hanson are getting the most reps in the slot, while Hayden is spending all his time on the outside. Hayden is getting some reps with the first-team defense as defensive coordinator Jason Tarver gauges just what he has in his newest toy.
To recap, Hayden suffered a ruptured a vein during a freak accident in practice at the University of Houston last November. the kind of injury that Hayden suffered almost always is fatal.
He underwent another surgery in May to remove scar tissue in his abdominal region and wasn’t cleared to practice again until Friday.

– Quarterbacks play was pretty sharp once again, just as it has been for most of camp.
At one point Monday, Matt Flynn, Tyler Wilson, Terrelle Pryor and Matt McGloin were having their way with the defense.
One particular passing drill featured touchdown passes to tight ends Jeron Mastrud, David Ausberry and Richard Gordon, with Ausberry and Gordon encountering little resistance.
Pryor and Flynn had a couple of misfires, to go with a handful of plays where they would have been sacked if defenders were allowed to tackle them, but by and large, the quarterbacks aren’t having much difficulty with the snap, the dropback, the reads and their throws.

– Backup offensive tackle Alex Barron made quite a showing during one-on-one blocking drills.
He swallowed up rookie defensive end David Bass twice and, for good measure, stoned end Lamarr Houston.
Sure, it’s only a few plays, but Barron is a guy that the Raiders are taking a long look at for the right offensive tackle spot. He’s also getting some time as a backup at left tackle.

– Quite a scare for Lucas Nix today, when he went down in a heap early on in practice, writhing in pain and grabbing at his left knee.
A couple of team trainers rushed to Nix’s aid, evaluated Nix’s condition and decided it was best to take Nix in for further evaluation.
Allen said Nix’s injury fell into the category of normal bumps and bruises associated with the rigors of training camp. Nix might beg to differ, but we’ll take Allen’s word for now.
Nix is competing against Tony Bergstrom for the starting spot at left guard. Therefore, he can’t afford to miss much time, if any.

– Nose tackle Johnny Jones, defensive tackle Vance Walker and defensive lineman Brandon Bair also suffered injuries that were serious enough to keep them off the field for part of practice.
Again, Allen said, these injuries likely aren’t much to worry about in terms of being long-term deals.

– The Raiders didn’t waste any time putting linebacker Omar Gaither to work.
He was in Charlotte, N.C., on Sunday. Less than 24 hours later, he was in Napa playing linebacker for the Raiders.
Allen said the Raiders liked what Gaither did for them in the seven games he played here last season. Therefore, when a slew of linebackers went down with injury, Gaither’s name was the first one that came up.
“You have to know that sooner or later call is going to happen,” Gaither said. “I feel like I played good enough last year to feel like I would be on some team’s roster. I was getting some feelers out there but I finally got a call from Oakland and I was ready to go.”
Gaither played middle linebacker for the Raiders last season. He also has starting experience at the strong-side and weak-side spots. For now, he’s playing in the middle, behind starter Nick Roach.
“His versatility is good for us,” Allen said. “He spent a lot of time at Mike linebacker, that’s where we played him today. That’s where we’ll start him out. But he’s a smart enough player and versatile enough player that he can play a couple of different positions for us.”

– Wide receiver Jacoby Ford was in uniform and on the practice field today. However, he did not participate in any drills during the two-and-one-half-hour practice.
Allen still isn’t divulging the nature of Ford’s injury, which occurred Sunday. For what it’s worth, Ford walked without a limp and didn’t have any obvious signs of injury.
“It’s a little bit more of a precautionary deal,” Allen said. “But we need Jacoby out here. He’s missed a lot of time and he’s got to get some work. He had a couple of good days of practice so it’s unfortunate that he’s a little bit nicked up. But I don’t anticipate him being out real long.”

– Rookie defensive tackle Stacy McGee impressed during one-on-one drills. He displayed the ability to get a big push into the backfield, which is something the Raiders need from their interior linemen.
Vance Walker and Pat Sims are the projected starters and the replacements for departed veterans Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour. Beyond that, the Raiders are hopeful that McGee or someone else, if not more than one player, emerges as a player capable of making an impact along the lines of Desmond Bryant last season.

– There weren’t nearly as many dropped balls today as there was each of the past two days.
Again, Allen said, it’s all part of the process. One day of sure-handed grabs is nice. Two is better. And so on.
“It was better,” Allen said of his receivers’ play. “What we have to do is keep stacking bricks on top of each other. We’re trying to build a foundation with this team of what type of team we’re going to be. We’re trying to find guys to go out and make plays for us. That’s what you do in the NFL.”
Undrafted rookie Greg Jenkins quickly has earned a reputation as a guy that makes difficult catches look easy and drops seemingly routine throws.
Perhaps that’s to be expected from a guy that played quarterback in college and is making the conversion to receiver in the pros.
On Monday, he made two eye-opening grabs despite tight coverage. He made it through the day without any drops, for a change.

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  • bcz24

    Why not?
    **************
    Because American pizza is made nothing like Italian pizza. Real Italian pizza is freaking amazing though.

  • The Big Banana

    Day old French food > Mexican food

    Sorry, just keepin it real

  • Ghosttoothepost

    mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    SnBG Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
    “no, I hope to one day, but food in india much fresher than anything you get over here an much much tastier”
    Fresher? You believe that all Indian food is transported?
    How can it be fresher?
    You buy fresh meat at the deli, buy fresh veggies wherever, same with spices.
    Sorry, but it tastes the way it does, over here, because that’s just the way it tastes.

    — fresh cut meat right in front of you if you like , fruits veggies everything tastes much better
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    I don’t know where you live but the S.F. Bay Area puts out some of the freshest food you can get anywhere in the world.
    =========
    That was my point. madden20 stated it’s fresher food in India.
    In the bay area, veggies are grown here, beef raised here.
    can’t get it any fresher than that.

    In India veggies are grown in your back yard , in your own farms, chicken and other animals are raised from walking distance where you can get them alive n bring home cut clean n cook n enjoy
    ===========
    In other words, no controls, whatsoever?
    I’ve seen some of the backyards in India, and the streets, gutters, markets, and backalleys.
    It’s really not a plus to say people grow what I’m eating in their yard.
    Its really not

  • mcfadden20.

    That’s true Duck

  • Ghosttoothepost

    Let me add I’m sure not saying I would be any more thrilled eating something out of someone’s backyard that is local.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Hwnrdr Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Just seen a tweet saying that injuries are mounting…
    Connor Vernon, Stacy McGee and Alex Parsons
    —————————-
    Sounds like nothing serious so,far………………….

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Bcz24 Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    Why not?
    **************
    Because American pizza is made nothing like Italian pizza. Real Italian pizza is freaking amazing though.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    1- there are a ton of great Italian restaurants that make great authentic pizza here.
    2- NY and Chicago pizzas are good too.

  • Ghosttoothepost

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Day old French food > Mexican food

    Sorry, just keepin it real
    ———–
    could not disagree more.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Day old French food > Mexican food

    Sorry, just keepin it real”

    French food is the best IMO

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    RaiderRockstar Says:

    Any Indian or Pakistani restaurant near you ?

    ***

    just thinking about that makes me wanna head for the toilet!
    ==================================================

    Just Indian and Pakistani food? Or foreign food in general(Tacos and pizza excluded)?
    Went into a little store in London for some beer and there was some baclava on the counter. Bought enough for me and the two guys I stayed with for a couple days. Offered it to them and they said,’What’s that,then? Paki food? No thanks, mate.’. Wouldn’t even try it. Wheat bread was dangerously exotic to them.

  • mcfadden20.

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    SnBG Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:21 pm

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:12 pm
    “no, I hope to one day, but food in india much fresher than anything you get over here an much much tastier”
    Fresher? You believe that all Indian food is transported?
    How can it be fresher?
    You buy fresh meat at the deli, buy fresh veggies wherever, same with spices.
    Sorry, but it tastes the way it does, over here, because that’s just the way it tastes.

    — fresh cut meat right in front of you if you like , fruits veggies everything tastes much better
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    I don’t know where you live but the S.F. Bay Area puts out some of the freshest food you can get anywhere in the world.
    =========
    That was my point. madden20 stated it’s fresher food in India.
    In the bay area, veggies are grown here, beef raised here.
    can’t get it any fresher than that.

    In India veggies are grown in your back yard , in your own farms, chicken and other animals are raised from walking distance where you can get them alive n bring home cut clean n cook n enjoy
    ===========
    In other words, no controls, whatsoever?
    I’ve seen some of the backyards in India, and the streets, gutters, markets, and backalleys.
    It’s really not a plus to say people grow what I’m eating in their yard.
    Its really not


    It’s not really like that places you seen, or heard, you need to stay away from TVs, all parts of India aren’t like you watched in SlumDog millionaire

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    Day old French food > Mexican food

    Sorry, just keepin it real
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    What?!?!
    I usually agree with you about food, but the is ludicrous!

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Dimitroff: Falcons still not planning to sign Richard Seymour”

    Nobody wants him…

  • SnBG

    Bcz24 Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
    Why not?
    **************
    Because American pizza is made nothing like Italian pizza. Real Italian pizza is freaking amazing though.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Not true brother. Depends on where you go for you’re pizza. If you came to me you would have got a thin crust brick oven baked pizza with Parma Ham and 3 Italian cheeseS., olive oil and a tasty tomatoe sauce. Or how about a Pizza Margarita. All Itialin pizzas,,, as good as anything you would ever get in Italy.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Raider O Says:
    Yeah, but they are not that good. My favorite Indian restaurant is in Jordan. Mankal chicken tikka.
    =====================================================

    What’s their address and hours? I’ll check it out this weekend.

  • R8ER MIKE

    you guys want good seafood you need to hit up the Chesapeake Bay !! nothing better then blue crabs !!

  • hwnrdr

    It’s not really like that places you seen, or heard, you need to stay away from TVs, all parts of India aren’t like you watched in SlumDog millionaire

    Jai Ho!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
    Raider O Says:
    Yeah, but they are not that good. My favorite Indian restaurant is in Jordan. Mankal chicken tikka.
    =====================================================

    What’s their address and hours? I’ll check it out this weekend.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    You are going to Jordan? F it…. I’ll go with you.

  • Ghosttoothepost

    SnBG Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    In Paris you can be standing in a line waiting for something and those Parisians make it an art to cut in front of you. You have to learn to be like an Offensive lineman to keep them from cutting in front of you.
    ===============
    If you are in line at a sidewalk cafe’, and you are heard speaking english, they will look right past you, and help the next person in line.
    Sure this doesn’t happen all the time, but happened to me, twice.

  • R8ER MIKE

    or a real redneck pig roast !! now them good eats !!

  • hwnrdr

    866.R8ER MIKE Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
    you guys want good seafood you need to hit up the Chesapeake Bay !! nothing better then blue crabs !!

    That’s what I’ve heard!

  • Marks hair

    nicks & dings…

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “The Eagles have lost two players for the season in camp already, and they’re trying to fix a bad defense.

    The Eagles aren’t tackling to the ground during practice, and Kelly said they won’t hit until they play an exhibition game.”

    Pusss camps are coming soon….eventually you will need a vag to play.

  • Ghosttoothepost

    “you need to stay away from TVs,”

    Ok, I’ll try.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    SnBG Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Not true brother. Depends on where you go for you’re pizza. If you came to me you would have got a thin crust brick oven baked pizza with Parma Ham and 3 Italian cheeseS., olive oil and a tasty tomatoe sauce. Or how about a Pizza Margarita. All Itialin pizzas,,, as good as anything you would ever get in Italy.

    =====================================

    But where’s the pepperoni? Pizza cannot be considered “pizza” without pepperoni.

  • mcfadden20.

    :) Go Raiders :)

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:48 pm
    you guys want good seafood you need to hit up the Chesapeake Bay !! nothing better then blue crabs !!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I never had blue crabs, but blue shrimp was great.

  • Ghosttoothepost

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    or a real redneck pig roast !! now them good eats !!
    ====\
    Never had a redneck pig roast, but an hawaiian pig roast?
    awesome.
    You can keep the poi, though, definitely an acquired taste.

  • R8ER MIKE

    lol … trust a fat stoner redneck, we know how to eat brother !!

  • mcfadden20.

    Barbecue chicken pizza will do for me :)

  • SnBG

    If you are in line at a sidewalk cafe’, and you are heard speaking english, they will look right past you, and help the next person in line.
    Sure this doesn’t happen all the time, but happened to me, twice.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    When you get out of Paris the world seems to change in France. I have a friend that’s from France and he went back there after ten years of living in the U.S. When he came back here the first thing he said to me was,,,”those Parisians are so rude”. I forgot what they are like”.

  • mcfadden20.

    :) 11-5 .. Go Raiders

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
    SnBG Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    Not true brother. Depends on where you go for you’re pizza. If you came to me you would have got a thin crust brick oven baked pizza with Parma Ham and 3 Italian cheeseS., olive oil and a tasty tomatoe sauce. Or how about a Pizza Margarita. All Itialin pizzas,,, as good as anything you would ever get in Italy.

    =====================================

    But where’s the pepperoni? Pizza cannot be considered “pizza” without pepperoni.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Margherita pizza is the original/ authentic pizza. Named after a queen.

  • SnBG

    Garlic Chicken Pizza is also good and I do like some B.B.Q Chic Pizza too Mc20

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    I like those BBQ shows they are in the South they are using charcoal with some specific wood ships and cook it all day.

    They have a Brisket category then a rib category…. seems like are always in Tennessee or Georgia.

    Those red necks can cook!

  • hwnrdr

    Ghosttoothepost Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:52 pm
    R8ER MIKE Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    or a real redneck pig roast !! now them good eats !!
    ====\
    Never had a redneck pig roast, but an hawaiian pig roast?
    awesome.
    You can keep the poi, though, definitely an acquired taste

    That is why you dip the pig in the poi! :)

  • Beeeeeech Dawg N Full Effect

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:40 pm
    Way way I’m melting Down wah wah there I said it , saved you time so you can get 10 bjs from all parts of the world in 1 minute

    ————-

    The best is when the Dawg has his minions so well trained they know exactly when to meltdown, then politely inform the Dawg for his records

    McFailin’, the Dawg is going to use you as an example for his minions-in-training

    Shout out to Fab 5 Freddy, holla back, WHUT

  • SnBG

    But where’s the pepperoni? Pizza cannot be considered “pizza” without pepperoni.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Anything can go on a pizza.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Pig is a nasty animal. Pass.

  • Ghosttoothepost

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    “Ghosttoothepost”

    Have you eaten at any French places here in the Bay Area?
    ============
    Have not.

  • The Big Banana

    You haven’t eaten until you’ve

    - had a fresh baked croissant or beignet in Paris
    - had a pizza or the vodka pasta in Rome
    - eaten the seppie (cuttlefish) in Venice
    - eaten tapas and tortilla Espanola in Spain
    - eaten fresh fish caught same day in Portugal

    And I admit I haven’t done it but eating fresh made food in India prob should be on the list too. I just wanted to point out that there’s a lot of good food out there to make that claim, McFadden20

    Also, not sure where you live, but fresh prepared food can be had in the bay. Stop eating the fast food. It’s poison.

  • SnBG

    Smoking meats is a whole culture in of itself.

  • R8ER MIKE

    Raider O Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    Pig is a nasty animal. Pass.

    ****************************
    lol sounds like Pulp Fiction !!

  • SnBG

    More Raider training camp on NFLNet.

  • Beeeeeech Dawg N Full Effect

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
    Barbecue chicken pizza will do for me :)

    ————-

    Really, how interesting, please tell us more about your likes, Mr. Smiley face dork

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    The Big Banana Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    - eaten the seppie (cuttlefish) in Venice

    ====================================

    I understand that Kyle Broflovski has an aversion to asparagus and cuttlefish…

  • mcfadden20.

    New post please

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    R8ER MIKE Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 2:00 pm
    Raider O Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
    Pig is a nasty animal. Pass.

    ****************************
    lol sounds like Pulp Fiction !!
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Lol
    Great movie.

  • Ghosttoothepost

    SnBG Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Was way down my list, both on food, and especially the ppl.
    Up there was Italy, Greece, Spain, and Scotland, both for food and nice ppl.
    So so was GB, Germany, and India.
    Maybe it was the french ppl that turned me off to the food.
    Definitely puts a sour taste in your mouth, especially when they realize you’re American.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    I don’t know where in France you have been but I’ve met some of the nicest French folks all over France.
    =========
    to be fair, I did run across some nice ppl in smaller towns. Guess I should have spent more time outside of Paris.

  • Cervantes74

    Would LOVE some All Silver Road & Special Game Unis

    Would LOVE some ALL BLACK Unis including helmets for 1 game each year as a tribute to AL Davis.

    oldschoolraider Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    oldschoolraider Says:
    July 30th, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    Raider’s offense wearing silver jerseys today.
    Is this a sign of things to come?
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    https://twitter.com/Jerrymcd/status/362258868576862209/photo/1