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Notes, quotes, observations from Raiders camp

There were still plenty of players missing from Raiders practice Thursday afternoon, but coach Dennis Allen for the first time speculated about the potential return of some of them.

Until Thursday, the only player who Allen conceded would be out awhile is Kaluka Maiava, who was seen on crutches and in a walking boot. Following practice, Allen named three players he thought would practice Friday _ wide receiver Jacoby Ford, left guard Lucas Nix and defensive tackle Stacy McGee.

The Raiders still are not releasing information on what the injuries are. Nix appeared to injure his left knee in practice Monday and was wearing a compression sleeve on his left leg.

Nix opened camp as the starter at left guard, but had given way to Tony Bergstrom the day he was injured. Allen said the two could continue to go back and forth but noted, “I think Tony’s responded. I think he’s answered the bell, and he understands the challenge that’s been set before him. We’ll continue to work and see where it’s out. I don’t think anybody has clearly definitely [separated] themselves for that position yet. We’re going to let it play out until it does.”

– Here’s how Allen assessed the injuries to defensive tackle Pat Sims and offensive tackle Menelik Watson that have kept them out of training camp when asked if their injuries were serious:

“Well, when you say serious, nothing’s going to keep them out for a long period of time. They’re dealing with nagging little injuries. I’m hopeful that we’re going to get both of them back here pretty soon, but nothing season-threatening or anything like that.”

Watson’s absence will make it more difficult for him to mount a challenge for the spot at right tackle currently manned by Khalif Barnes.

“Anytime you’re a rookie and you’re not able to get out here and compete and learn – especially a guy like him that hasn’t played a lot of football – he needs all the reps he can get,” Allen said. “With that being said, he’s working extremely hard to get back out here. Injuries are part of the game. There’s nothing we can do about it other than try to do everything we can to get him rehabbed as fast as possible.”

– Allen essentially ruled out the possibility that center Stefen Wisniewski would switch to guard.

“He is our starting center, he’s done a nice job there,’’ Allen said.

With Alex Parsons out with injury and his left leg in a boot, Andre Gurode worked as the second-team center.

– Tight end Mychal Rivera had a big day in team drills and seven-on-seven sessions on a day where the Raiders played in shorts and shells and took a break after three straight days in pads.

– Former Raiders tackle Lincoln Kennedy was a guest at practice and afterward held an impromptu clinic with tackles Jared Veldheer, Barnes, Willie Smith and Alex Barron, at one point showing them how to lock the arm of a defender while avoiding getting called for holding.

– Cornerback Tracy Porter said he’s looking to switch numbers again before the regular season and said talks were ongoing with Charles Woodson about being compensated for switching from No. 24 to No. 31.

Porter joked that perhaps he could get a five percent in TwentyFour Wines, Woodson’s Napa Valley winery.

Porter still seemed mildly irked by the way the switch was handled. The fact that Porter was listed at No. 31 and Woodson at No. 24 in the Raiders media guide means they club knew about the switch long before he did. At the same time, Porter said, “It’s not like I’m going to leave camp over it or anything.”

– Wide receiver Denarius Moore, who conceded earlier in the week he’d had a crisis of confidence last season, had a strong session Thursday, at one point going up despite tight coverage from Porter and Woodson for a catch from Matt Flynn near the goal line.

“I thought Denarius Moore made a great play down the boundary,” Allen said. “Those are types of plays we expect out of him. I think he’s responding to the challenge.”

– Cornerback Taiwan Jones made a nice defensive play by breaking up a slant pass intended for Andre Holmes, but his ticket to the roster remains his ability to cover kicks.

“It’s been a difficult transition for him, but when it comes down to the roster, he’s one of the best special teams players in this league,” Allen said.

– Allen is in no hurry to make the seemingly inevitable announcement that Flynn will be the Raiders starting quarterback.

“We’ll have a quarterback ready to go, I promise you, when the season starts,” Allen said.

– While teams weren’t exactly clamoring to sign cornerbacks Michael Jenkins or Porter, their presence has made a dramatic upgrade in the position from a year ago, when Ron Bartell and Shawntae Spencer were injuries waiting to happen and weren’t enjoying nearly the success as the men who replaced them.

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  • the famous dr robert

    StablersNads Says:
    August 2nd, 2013

    it’s also that slob admitted posting as raiderrob got him b-slapped so much he changed his name, adding dr to it because it made him feel special.

    special like dr. suess special
    ********
    Wow. Liars lie.

  • inonewordraider

    Just wondering,but have you been watching him in practice?
    __________
    no just from the tweets

    the former nfl scout saying Flynn and Pryors arm strength not even close and he’d just throw Pryor out there

    you think of guys that were successful with lack of arm strength and they’re super talented guys like Brees and Montana

  • the famous dr robert

    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:37 pm
    Troll Hunter Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:35 pm
    #917 Dr. Rob would not do something as moronic and post his pic. Come on people he is doctor for gods sake…..
    ****************************

    LOLOLOLOL
    **********
    Write some more L’s and O’s. that really made u laugh huh?

  • Dakota

    6-8 wins if things go okay? I think to get to eight wins everything on this team would have to go great and everything on our division rival’s teams would have to go very very wrong.

    I think 6 wins is our max with this team, with 4 wins being the most likely scenario.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Wow. Liars lie.”

    Yes and we all know you are very good at that!

  • the famous dr robert

    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:36 pm
    Roberta….personally many want you off this blog but not the B@uce…..I rather enjoy the fail jobs that are your posts…..PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP!
    **********
    Lol. Is spot flying from ur mouth right now? Calm down little girl.

  • ElkGRaider

    Reggie knows how to put butts in the seats!
    ——-

    Don’t know about you but 60 attempts before the half are some of the most exciting parts of the games…

  • Just Fire Baby

    TruRaider,

    I said “WTF are you talking about” in regards to Cribbs fumbles, as I felt you implied he has some horrible fumble issue.

    His fumbles per touch is better than who we have had returning punts and kicks and better than the all-time greatest kick returner, Devin Hester.

    He can use to clean up some fumbles, who doesn’t??, but he is not a fumbling machine or anything.

  • the famous dr robert

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:40 pm
    “Wow. Liars lie.”

    Yes and we all know you are very good at that!
    ********
    Never lied once here.

  • ElkGRaider

    60 yard*

  • hwnrdr

    Wooohooo! So we got Fat Boy for the rest of his career!

  • Follow the B@uceman

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:35 pm
    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:30 pm

    Yeah I am saying that at all levels when talking Cali vs Indiana lol
    *********
    Coming from someone who’s never been to Indiana.

    Ur the classic little mind. U think ur block is the greatest block in the world. Ur school is the greatest. Ur town is the greatest.

    But u have no knowledge.

    Imbecile.
    *************************************

    PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP!

  • Dakota

    ElkGRaider Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:41 pm
    Reggie knows how to put butts in the seats!
    ——-

    Don’t know about you but 60 attempts before the half are some of the most exciting parts of the games…
    +++++

    Hell yeah, I was there in Denver when he tied the record. I want to see a 75 yarder!

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    @SeyGlenn

    Seabass was on the books for $5.1 million this year

    any idea what he’ll be making this year, with that restructured deal?
    ——————————————–

    They will announce it shortly. But Jamista Clown is on his way to Napa to demand most of it for “making” Janikowsky the great kicker that he is.

  • troll hunter

    Why do you guys like to insult Dr. Rob? He has some great football acumen plus he teaches young men this sport brings all of us together.

  • Follow the B@uceman

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:40 pm
    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:36 pm
    Roberta….personally many want you off this blog but not the B@uce…..I rather enjoy the fail jobs that are your posts…..PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP!
    **********
    Lol. Is spot flying from ur mouth right now? Calm down little girl.
    ************************************

    PLEASE DONT STOP! PLEASE DONT STOP!

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    Who else saw Post #959 and started laughing so hard that they and fell out of their chair?

  • RaiderRockstar

    you think of guys that were successful with lack of arm strength and they’re super talented guys like Brees and Montana

    ***

    @inonewordraider

    Joe Montana was a 3rd rounder who backed up Steve DeBerg his first 2 years in the league

    People are pissing all over themselves because Flynn couldn’t beat out NFL superstars Rodgers & Wilson, lol

    Drew Brees was coached up by our very own Greg Olson @ Purdue!

    have a little faith bro. at least the size of a mustard seed

  • the famous dr robert

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:32 pm
    Follow the B@uceman Says:
    So why is Roberta saying Cork said you were banned because of a fake Dr. Roberta screen name
    ========================================================

    He’s hardly going to admit talking to himself. And he went on some scary late night lunatic rants with 50+ posts/hour. We got along ok when he 1st showed up and still agree football wise more often than not.
    We laughed at Miss Tick together, along with others. But I eventually quit interacting with Miss Tick while Rob interacted more and more and the mistic/rob crap was pretty much trashing this place. I called Rob out on it and we know how he responds to criticism.
    So , long story short, he’s lying.
    ***********
    I asked cork to ban my impostor. U were banned that night.

    It’s fact. U know dam well there was an impostor following me around.

    Denying that just makes u more guilty.

    As I said, I used to kinda like u but ur lies about me ruin that.

  • Follow the B@uceman

    Troll Hunter Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:43 pm
    Why do you guys like to insult Dr. Rob? He has some great football acumen plus he teaches young men this sport brings all of us together.
    **********************************

    HAHAHAHAHA

  • the famous dr robert

    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:43 pm
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:40 pm
    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 2nd, 2013 at 12:36 pm
    Roberta….personally many want you off this blog but not the B@uce…..I rather enjoy the fail jobs that are your posts…..PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP PLEASE DONT STOP!
    **********
    Lol. Is spot flying from ur mouth right now? Calm down little girl.
    ************************************

    PLEASE DONT STOP! PLEASE DONT STOP!
    ********
    Umm. Ok. Are u alright?

  • RaiderRockstar

    new post. don’t ruin it with your blog fights!!

  • ElkGRaider

    Wait and see approach with Flynn. He could be another Gannon or an overpriced backup. I pull for Pryor due to the higher ceiling but if Flynns money, so be it

  • lefty12

    Inoneword-that is one observers opinion.I haven’t heard that from anyone else.A accurate QB that can read a defense in a nanosecond is better than one with a rocket.Remember J.George,The bust,Palmer,M.Wilson,and many others.Arm strength isn’t the most important asset of a QB.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    the famous dr robert Says:
    As I said, I used to kinda like u but ur lies about me ruin that.
    =====================================================

    Only reason I addressed your silly claims was concern that some might misconstrue my silence as an admission of guilt.
    But judging by the size of your fan club, I needn’t have worried.

  • ArtilleryShell

    QB Palmer used to have the arm until the elbow thing. Your right, tho’ in terms of important attributes. Accuracy is #1 though, as you can complete passes despite the coverage see Dan Marino. Reading the D is # 2

    RT Barnes will start, only Alex Barron has a chance to beat him out this year.

    Flynn is gonna be boring, safe conservative West Coast approach. Rather lose with Pryor than win two more games with Flynn.

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