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Raiders camp notes and links

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, August 2nd, 2013 at 4:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Some notes, quotes and links from the Raiders practice Friday:

Looks like the Raiders will be looking at some more defensive tackles. Vance Walker was back at practice for the second consecutive day, but Pat Sims still hasn’t practiced, Stacy McGee came back from an undisclosed injury but did not finish and newly signed Myles Wade was injured.

“I think that’s something we’ve got to continue to look at,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said. “We brought in Myles Wade, unfortunately he was injured today, so we’ve got to keep going and make sure we have enough bodies to come out here and practice with.”

– Impressive day from running back Rashad Jennings, who looks nothing like the 2.8 yards per carry runner he was in Jacksonville last season.

“He’s done some good things for us,” Allen said. “One of the challenges you have for Rashad is … Rashad’s a big back, we want Rashad to play like a big back, and that will be something we’re going to look at as we go into the preseason is him being that big physical presence that we expect him to be.”

Jennings moved the pile in a third-and-1 drill and later described that situation as being “like a carrot in front of a bunny. You just go get it.”

– Officials on their annual tour were at the Raiders facility and will be there through Sunday. The practice was so clean Allen counted only one flag thrown. Officials spent much of the time conversing with players and mostly coaches, informing of them how rules will be enforced.

Some of the rule changes aren’t applicable in practice anyway, in particular the rule which won’t allow running backs in the tackle box to lower their head and pile into an opposing defender.

“They’re obviously not going to see everything since they don’t have the full crew out here,” Allen said. “It’s part of the deal. We bring the officials out, it’s good for them, they get some work, but it’s also good for us because we get a chance to have them explain some of the new rules and some of the things that they’re going to emphasize this year. ”

– Tackle Alex Barron, considered a major bust in St. Louis as a first-round draft pick, has been dominating in some blocking drills _ he’s been particularly rough on rookie end David Bass _ and has played well enough to get some first team reps at right tackle to push Khalif Barnes with Menelik Watson still not having practiced.

“Well I think we’re going to let that thing play out, but obviously I’ve been impressed with the things Alex Barron has done and that’s been a nice surprise for us,” Allen said. “He’s a guy that’s kind of getting that second chance and he’s taking advantage of it.”

Allen hasn’t felt the need to to talk to his team aobut the situation in Philadelphia with white wide receiver Riley Cooper getting caught on video using racial epithets at a Kenny Chesney concert.

“We haven’t addressed it. Obviously, that’s a situation that you don’t want anything to be divisive in the locker room,” Allen said. “I think we all understand that we have a group of young men that all come from different backgrounds, and we have to respect all kinds of different backgrounds, whether it be race, religion, whatever the case may be.”

– One of the items on the NFL video presentation on rule changes was, ahem, the elimination of the tuck rule. Charles Woodson, Lincoln Kennedy and Zack Crockett had a few things to say about that in this Bay Area News Group web story.

– Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski’s timing couldn’t have been better for getting a contract extension. The Raiders may have as much as $50 million in cap space this year. Janikowski talked about his new deal in this Bay Area News Group web story.

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  • fingers

    The Raiders wont get any good press till they force it with good solid play and wins…nothing new…. Thats how its always been…..this teams still being judged off the last decade…gotta change that..

  • The Big Banana

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:32 pm
    Banana—dude. Pryor has serious accuracy issues. It’s not hate. It’s just the truth.

    ——

    True or not, broad side of a barn. Really? You don’t think that’s a touch over the top? Why would they even waste any time with a QB that “can’t hit the broad side of a barn”?

    Continue spreading hate…some of you do it well.

  • The Big Banana

    Then another week of arguing.

    ——-

    We could be world beaters with an all-pro QB and there would be arguing in here. You of all people should know this.

  • the famous dr robert

    Myopinion Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:37 pm
    Agree plunk. On the something special about a hard days work.

    Last post if da lets pryor go for 3unknown pocket guys, I will lose faith in da all together. Pryor at his worst is a faster better passer than tebow. And da if anyone should know thats not a bad,if all else fails option. Unless he gets a canpasss deal, I personally would be pizzed
    *******
    What if all three are better? Better options?

    Why be pizzed? If he cans the 4th best qb?

    I know u don’t think Pryor is the 4th best but what if preseason shows that to be the case?

    Still pizzed no matter what cus he’s ur golden pony?

  • Plunketthead

    Good stuff about Hoss and being a great coach at PFT

    Long before Tom Coughlin was head coach of the New York Giants he was the club’s wide receivers coach under Bill Parcells.

    In an interview with Michael Eisen of Giants.com, Coughlin shared some interesting memories of working with Parcells, who will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday evening.

    Among Coughlin’s memories was Parcells’ knack for quickly breaking down practice tape.

    “Bill was very demanding,” Coughlin told Giants.com. “The thing that I’m still amazed at is we looked at the practice tape as an offensive and defensive staff every day and we did it in about a half an hour. He was amazing. He just flew through it. He knew what he wanted.”

    Coughlin also recalled the 1990 season, when the Giants lost quarterback Phil Simms to injury and had to turn to Jeff Hostetler.

    “One of the things that’s very important to remember is that Jeff Hostetler was ready,” Coughlin told Giants.com.

    Said Coughlin, per the club’s site: “He was ready because of the way he practiced.”

    Parcells, Coughlin recalled to Giants.com, “was hard on himself and he was hard on the scout teams. He expected people to carry out their assignments to the best of their ability so that he could get his work and they could, too.”

    The 1990 Giants would go on to win Super Bowl XXV to cap a season that’s regarded as perhaps the crowning achievement of Parcells’ career, considering New York had to beat exceptional San Francisco and Buffalo squads — and with a backup quarterback, no less.

    That the backup quarterback was prepared was no fluke, as Coughlin recalled it.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Friday will hopefully tell us everything we need to know.

    What will suck is if we go away from the game with mixed results from both.

    Then another week of arguing.
    ========================================================

    More likely than not.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Greg Oden to Miami!!

    #3peat

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    Really, the broad side if a barn? You people and your hatred towards some of our players. SMH

    ============================================

    It’s not “hatred.” It’s accurate. Pryor has a lot of throws that don’t go near their targets. And “broad side of a barn” is a common idiom that’s been used longer than any of us has been alive.

  • the famous dr robert

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:39 pm
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:32 pm
    Banana—dude. Pryor has serious accuracy issues. It’s not hate. It’s just the truth.

    ——

    True or not, broad side of a barn. Really? You don’t think that’s a touch over the top? Why would they even waste any time with a QB that “can’t hit the broad side of a barn”?

    Continue spreading hate…some of you do it well.
    ********
    What hate?

    I say he’s a good kid. I like him. I just think he’s a poor passer.

    How’s that hate? Be specific. Dont just say it without proof.

    Here: I don’t hate Pryor. How are u gonna tell me I do? U know more than me about what I think? No matter how many times I explain it?

    Sounds like u might be the hater.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    Greg Oden to Miami!!

    #3peat

    ================================

    Was that championships or knee reconstructions?

  • Al_is_theraiders

    the fact that there is arguing shows how bad if a job shrek is doing…mark bring in holmgren and chucky fast!

  • RaiderRockstar

    @Duck

    championships, duh

    We’ll probably keep G.O. on the shelf until Christmas

    why rush him? ease him into games during garbage time

  • Myopinion

    Yes, rob(phd) I would, if pryor can even figure it out bt next year hes worth it, a few wildcats and a backup wo could come in and throw the d off guard.
    U cali guys imagine him going to your bay area rivals.to back up kap and develop,why not give our hardest working,most electric player another year to develop, worst case,wjere if da was.smart he could hide mgloin and sneak him on ps

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    the fact that there is arguing shows how bad if a job shrek is doing…mark bring in holmgren and chucky fast!

    =======================================

    Right. Because nobody ever argued when Al was alive…

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    @Duck

    championships, duh

    ==================================

    It was a joke. (headdesk)

  • Al_is_theraiders

    quack when DA starts 0-4 how will that reflect on shrek?

  • the famous dr robert

    Myopinion Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:47 pm
    Yes, rob(phd) I would, if pryor can even figure it out bt next year hes worth it, a few wildcats and a backup wo could come in and throw the d off guard.
    U cali guys imagine him going to your bay area rivals.to back up kap and develop,why not give our hardest working,most electric player another year to develop, worst case,wjere if da was.smart he could hide mgloin and sneak him on ps
    *******

    I don’t imagine him developing as a qb anywhere.

    I think it’s possible they keep all four.

    I’d like Pryor to take his talents to the WR position where he could be of tremendous help.

  • RaiderRockstar

    It was a joke.

    ***

    @Duck

    what was?

    Jacoby Ford’s NFL career?

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    the fact that there is arguing shows how bad if a job shrek is doing…mark bring in holmgren and chucky fast!
    ======================================================

    Yeah, that’s the ticket Al. No more arguing after that happens.

  • RaiderRockstar

    the same people who hate Reggie his first 2 years as GM will absolutely LOVE him his next two years (Year #3 and #4)

    print that

    BigMac inherited a mess, Alis

  • Myopinion

    Mgloin spent last season under ex patriots o. Coordinator, im sure that turd has been polished nicely, think overall talent and ability will win out and pryor wilson will stick.

  • lefty12

    Pryor is definitely a hard worker you have to give credit for that,but where do you come up with the ‘our hardest working’ part.It is impossible to state for fact that he works harder than others.

  • the famous dr robert

    Dhb worked hard.

  • the famous dr robert

    Tebow works hard

  • The Big Banana

    Sounds like u might be the hater.

    —–

    Lol, right. Turn it around.

  • the famous dr robert

    Joey Williams works hard.

    Who’s Joey Williams u ask?

    One of the worst players I ever coached.

    But he worked hard.

  • SnBG

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    the fact that there is arguing shows how bad if a job shrek is doing…mark bring in holmgren and chucky fast!
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Sooo not true. It shows a narrow vision of what has happened with this org and what is going on right now. I would call it blind hate.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    quack when DA starts 0-4 how will that reflect on shrek?

    =======================================

    You mean when DA starts 2-2? It will reflect well.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    one thing DA has going…we might win the penalty bowl this year…

  • Plunketthead

    Puig layed down a nice bunt next time up. He is fast

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    SnBG Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    the fact that there is arguing shows how bad if a job shrek is doing…mark bring in holmgren and chucky fast!
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Sooo not true. It shows a narrow vision of what has happened with this org and what is going on right now. I would call it blind hate.

    =====================================

    Not to mention the fact that people want to bring in Holmgren, who was mediocre at best in two GM stops, and Chucky, who went 55-57 in Tampa Bay and never developed a young player not named “Jerry Porter” in his entire HC career.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Could be worse. We could be having this conversation.

    The Browns have put their support behind Weeden this offseason, and some see a bright future. Still, he turns 30 in October on a roster stocked with young players. Browns CEO Joe Banner inherited Weeden and general manager Mike Lombardi widely panned the quarterback as an analyst for NFL Network.

    La Canfora, who was an NFL Network colleague of Lombardi’s, wrote: “I’d be fairly stunned if the Browns are not very active in the quarterback department in the draft.”

    Weeden has held off backups Jason Campbell and Brian Hoyer, but new coordinator Norv Turner admitted this week that the Browns have looked a little ragged on offense, according to The Plain Dealer.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000225683/article/norv-turner-weeden-browns-showing-mixed-results

  • the famous dr robert

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 1:55 pm
    Sounds like u might be the hater.

    —–

    Lol, right. Turn it around.
    **********
    Well it’s true.

    U don’t like me cuz I have an opinion u don’t like to hear.

    So u rip me.

    U hate me. U don’t want me to be right.

    Ur drinking haterade.

    U be hatin’.

    Hate the game not the blogger.

    Ur fav SNL cast member is Bill Hater.

  • lefty12

    Not to mention the fact that people want to bring in Holmgren, who was mediocre at best in two GM stops, and Chucky, who went 55-57 in Tampa Bay and never developed a young player not named “Jerry Porter” in his entire HC career.
    =============================
    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • the famous dr robert

    Pryor to the Browns?

    Weren’t missdick and priest convinced that Norb turner loved him?

    Missdick would have a new fav team with Pryor and Campbell there.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    4-12….and you guys like Donkey and Shrek? Theres no hope for you guys…

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    4-12….and you guys like Donkey and Shrek? Theres no hope for you guys…

    =====================================

    You’d prefer to go back to the “Good Old Days” of seven straight 11-loss seasons?

  • The Big Banana

    Dr Bob. You chose to address me, not the other way around. I was addressing Duck.

    You seem to enjoy picking fights in here. Troll much?

  • SnBG

    Holmgren mailed it in when he was with the Browns. Yep, just what we need.

  • Plunketthead

    “It’ll be pretty awesome,” said 6th-rounder TE Nick Kasa. “I’m assuming it’s going to be just great. I’ve heard great things about the Black Hole and all that. I’ve never been to a Raiders game at the stadium, but I’m excited to see what it’s like

    More rookie stuff at
    http://blogs.raiders.com/2013/08/02/2013-training-camp-notebook-day-7/

    WR Brice Butler, one of the Raiders 7th-round selections. “Coach [Olson], Coach Gilmore, they’re always like, ‘perform to outperform the other 31 teams in the league.

    Every day, preseason game or not, every day your performance is monitored,” said Butler. “You have personnel guys out here watching. Our coaches do a great job of letting us know that they’re out there

  • Myopinion

    Lefty, when I change my name to for a fact, ill make sure to speak properly.
    I meant he works hard,has a good attitude.

    Rob(phd)did jesse williams run a 4.3 or launch the ball 60yds,if he did that could be a reflection of your poor coaching. To be expected from your opinions.

  • the famous dr robert

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 2:03 pm
    Dr Bob. You chose to address me, not the other way around. I was addressing Duck.

    You seem to enjoy picking fights in here. Troll much?
    *******
    I’m not picking a fight. Just messing around.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    nah…good old days of 3 super bowll wins and two other appearences, days when teams feared the size, speed and strength of the raiders…not the slow, weak, take what they give you attitude Donkey and shrek brought…

  • the famous dr robert

    Myopinion Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 2:04 pm
    Lefty, when I change my name to for a fact, ill make sure to speak properly.
    I meant he works hard,has a good attitude.

    Rob(phd)did jesse williams run a 4.3 or launch the ball 60yds,if he did that could be a reflection of your poor coaching. To be expected from your opinions.
    *******
    Joey Williams was a pud. He also doesn’t exist.

    Running fast and throwing a long ball doesn’t mean ur a good qb.

    My opinions are on the money.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 2:06 pm

    nah…good old days of 3 super bowll wins and two other appearences, days when teams feared the size, speed and strength of the raiders…not the slow, weak, take what they give you attitude Donkey and shrek brought…

    =======================================

    Those good old days ended LONG before Al did. The only thing teams “feared” from us in last eight years of Al’s life was the fear of dying from laughter when they saw our record.

  • SnBG

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 2:06 pm
    nah…good old days of 3 super bowll wins and two other appearences, days when teams feared the size, speed and strength of the raiders…not the slow, weak, take what they give you attitude Donkey and shrek brought…
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    sigh.

  • the famous dr robert

    Fact #1: Pryor is big, fast, and has good arm strength.

    Fact #2: Pryor is one of the worst passers I’ve ever seen in the nfl.

    See how one doesn’t cancel out the other?

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    SnBG Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    Holmgren mailed it in when he was with the Browns. Yep, just what we need.

    =================================

    Gotta love so mad at Reggie for drafting a 26-year-old in the third round last year that they want to replace him with someone who drafted a 29-year-old two rounds earlier.

  • the famous dr robert

    I love AD but I will gladly take the packers of the last decade.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    *Gotta love people so mad