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Notes, quotes and observations from camp — Day 8

By Steve Corkran
Saturday, August 3rd, 2013 at 7:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.

NAPA — The more you watch Terrelle Pryor, the more convinced you are that he has a legitimate chance to succeed as a quarterback in the NFL. On Saturday, his wide-ranging talents were on full display before 1,000 or so fans.
Coach Dennis Allen also took note of Pryor’s performance, in particular a long throw to rookie wide receiver Brice Butler on a post route.
The ball traveled 60 yards or so in the air and found Butler in stride at the goal line for a touchdown. The fans excitement began with a low rumble as Pryor released the ball, it built as the ball neared its intended target and reached a crescendo when Butler made the catch and landed in the end zone.
“That deep ball was a heck of a play and heck of a throw,” Allen said. “All Terrelle’s got to do is keep his head down and keep working. He has improved and he’s gotten better every day. And that’s what we expect.”
Pryor completed numerous other passes and even showed off his running ability from time to time, when called plays broke down.

– Left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer underwent an MRI on his triceps. The exam returned negative. Allen said he expects Veldheer back at practice soon. Alex Barron took Veldheer’s reps with the first-team offense. Veldheer watched practice while sporting a baseball cap.

– Wide receiver Jacoby Ford returned to practice after missing most of the past five practices. He said a sore tendon behind one of his knees caused him to sit out since last Sunday.
He said the injury just happened without his doing anything to cause it and that it’s nothing to worry about, unlike each of the past two training camps, when he suffered a broken hand and a foot injury.
“At first it was kind of upsetting, but it’s part of the game,” Ford said. “I’m doing everything I can to take care of my body in the right way. That last year, I really had no choice because of the foot surgery. I’m glad to get back from the leg. It’s something just real minor, so it was nothing for me to panic about or anything. It’s just like more nagging than anything and just a little bit frustrating. But I’m fine now.”
Allen said he’s eager to get a long look at Ford, especially given he didn’t get to see Ford for long last season before he needed a season-ending surgery.

– Barron also has received reps at right offensive tackle. However, it sounds as if Khalif Barnes is on solid ground in terms of keeping his starting job.
“I’ve been very pleased with Khalif Barnes,” Allen said. “Where he’s at, he’s done a good job for us.”

– Defensive tackles Vance Walker and Stacy McGee were part of a large contingent of Raiders that missed practice. Walker and McGee just returned to practice Friday, only to be back on the sideline a day later.
In all, more than a dozen players missed practice, though no one new surfaced on the list.

– Allen spoke for the first time since the Raiders signed Sebastian Janikowski to a four-year contract extension. Naturally, he’s thrilled to know that he can check kicker off his list for the next five years.
“That’s great,” Allen said. “He’s one of the best kickers to ever play this game, he’s a weapon for us. I’ve said anytime we cross the 50(-yard line), we’re nearing field-goal range anyway. So, it’s a huge weapon to have a guy like him who puts points on the board for you, so I’m glad we got him.”
Six other key players are in the position Janikowski was in until Friday; entering the final year of their contract — running back Darren McFadden, fullback Marcel Reece, Veldheer, defensive end Lamarr Houston, Ford and long-snapper Jon Condo.
Allen made it clear that he is interested in getting some of those guys tied up sooner rather than later, and certainly before free agency rolls around next spring.
“Well, obviously, I’m not going to get into any real negotiations,” Allen said, “but there are some players on this team that we would like to go ahead and shore up.”

– Allen said he hasn’t broken down how many reps players are going to get in the Raiders exhibition opener Friday night. However, it’s clear that presumptive starting quarterback Matt Flynn is going to get plenty of playing time, if not right away.
“Matt’s going to get some work in the preseason,” Allen said. “I don’t think there’s any question about that, so we want to make sure we get him enough work so that he’ll be ready to go when the regular season comes around.”
Flynn has started only two regular-season games in his five NFL seasons. Pryor has made one start in his two seasons. Tyler Wilson and Matt McGloin are rookies. Therefore, Allen is faced with four quarterbacks that need as many snaps as possible.

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  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    Kell…come on man….no need to go there
    ——————
    I hope you’re growing up.

  • The Big Banana

    Lol, has BSJ chimed in on Condo’s re-signing yet?

  • Follow the B@uceman

    Raiders For Life Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
    B. or Dell,
    I haven’t heard much about the run game. How did that look? DMAC, Jennings, Stewart?
    ***************
    I mentioned last nite

    DMAC looks great…still swift and very explosive…and you know he has hands out the backfield. In sports its all about comfort and the power scheme he looked more comfortable in….more natural. North South runners must make their move immediately not wait for a lane to open like the red sea. We know DMAC can block too

    Jennings will be our power back….seems strong and can push a pile. Not much a of threat out the backfield. I look for him and Reece to spell DMAC with great success this season

    Latavius Murray is a no show….dont know whats up but he may be cut or PS in my view

  • mcfadden20.

    How Chekwa doing ? Is it possible both Chekwa and Adams make it ? They looked pretty good in limited time last year, I want both of them to make it Hanson is good at slot, Jenkins should rediscover his game, then we have Taiwan Jones, Hayden and Porter are locks, man I don’t want any of these guys cut, could it be possible we go with 7 CBs?

  • Raiders for life

    Jerry McDonald ‏@Jerrymcd 11m
    Raiders try out D-lineman Brian Baker. Don’t be surprised if he signs given injuries at position.

  • The Big Banana

    Raider O Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 11:57 am
    B,

    When are you going again? Is there a limit? Do you have to pay?
    ******************

    Today I believe it is done….preseason starting Friday so they really gonna start gettin into it
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I see. Maybe next year you can go more than once, or maybe you will be a reporter by then. lol

    ——–

    I think we’d all be game with B having access to all the practices and running this place.

  • mcfadden20.

    No way they cut Latavius Murray or put him on practice squad, he’s going to be a beast for us , injuries are part of the game , he will be fine though

  • Plunketthead

    DJ = MVR
    I have pics from the shoe from about seventh grade until they shut down the million dollar display.

    50 cent heinekins, dollar shrimp cocktails and two dollar steak and eggs. Roughed up and 86ed many moons ago

  • Raiders for life

    Thanks B.
    Hopefully this is DMAC’s year.

  • Follow the B@uceman

    KoolKell Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    Kell…come on man….no need to go there
    ——————
    I hope you’re growing up.
    ***********************************

    Well I’m trying..how about you? When will you grow up?

  • RaidO

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 30m
    Allen said rookie QB Tyler Wilson “has all the physical tools but is behind from a mental standpoint.”

  • Raiders for life

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 2m
    Tyler Wilson said he’s “throwing ball pretty well, it’s just a matter of figuring out where it’s supposed to go.” He’s keeping his chin up

  • mcfadden20.

    Well with all the injuries at DT, pretty sure Reg will be telling his scouts to pay more attentions to DT and DE in colleges, and def looking at potential FAs at those positions next year

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 4:34 am
    Awesome to see TP step up to a challenge such as this.
    Al and his teams were underdogs and rebels, people nobody liked and that’s a big reason I became a fan.

    Pryor is a perfect underdog. The man has everything we want from our elite Raider QB. Only knocks have been accuracy and line command.

    Dude has been working triple hard to correct those issues and is pulling ahead. Looks and feels like what happened last year in Seattle.

    We are on the verge of releasing our decade long elite QB.

    ——————

    Truth!

  • Raider Dell

    August 4th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
    B. or Dell,
    I haven’t heard much about the run game. How did that look? DMAC, Jennings, Stewart?
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Good observation on your part. The theme we saw yesterday was more fundamentals than actual run plays. What plays they did run were power with McFadden and Jennings with the ball, on occasion Jeremy Stewart and Deonte Williams a local Oaktown product.

    I saw flashes from DMAC, speed and quickness which is not unusual and Jennings looked good, but not that special.

    The one drill that was great to see was the RB’S come out from under the goal post with a tethered football trying to muscle to the goal line, like if they were being grabbed and tackled and the exercise was emphasing shoulders square, low to ground and driving with their legs.

    Being honest, not much run related news.

  • Follow the B@uceman

    RaidO Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:20 pm
    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 30m
    Allen said rookie QB Tyler Wilson “has all the physical tools but is behind from a mental standpoint.”
    **********************

    Same thing I saw

  • 0ak r8rs

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    who they are.

    377.0ak r8rs Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 11:52 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 11:44 pm
    Not to mention Al’s last DRAFT PICK.

    After Al passed PRYOR would say he would just be talking to him on the phone

    “BE PATIENT” “you’re time is coming”

    @@@@@@@

    Awewwwwweeeeeee

    So what.

    ———————

    so he was Al’s last draft pick. Trolls dont care. Raider fans do

    @@@@@@@

    Sentimental crap. Doesn’t win games. Whatever.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    What’s funny is the media is just as clueless as these so called fans. The trib staff & local media instantly began touting Wilson va Flynn while simultaneously dismissing Pryor. Went so far as to call Wilson the future!!!!

    Last year weeks after my initial preseason takes to start Pryor and bench Palmer the local beat guys labeled me ” the more radical member of the fan base”

    LMAO. How about some jack families to wash down the crow and help ease the pain from Looking so foolish.

    Propagandist & media magicians……. EXPOSED!!!!

  • J Hill

    if the RAIDS aren’t killed by injuries – and wind up getting blown out consistently and finish with something like 4 wins – are you going to start bashing TITS ?

    —————————————————————————–

    Probably so.

    He’d certainly be “on the hot seat” going into year 3.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    RAID-Cowboy game is a night game, right ?

    Any evening practices planned to get acclimated to playing under the lights ?

  • Raider Dell

    B@uce,you commented McGloin is no where near 6’0 very small guy. You were surprised at how small he was.

  • Follow the B@uceman

    Raider Dell Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    B@uce,you commented McGloin is no where near 6′0 very small guy. You were surprised at how small he was.
    ****************************************8

    He is Wee Man from Jackass

  • 0ak r8rs

    0ak R8rs Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:22 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    who they are.

    377.0ak r8rs Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 11:52 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 3rd, 2013 at 11:44 pm
    Not to mention Al’s last DRAFT PICK.

    After Al passed PRYOR would say he would just be talking to him on the phone

    “BE PATIENT” “you’re time is coming”

    @@@@@@@

    Awewwwwweeeeeee

    So what.

    ———————

    so he was Al’s last draft pick. Trolls dont care. Raider fans do

    @@@@@@@

    Sentimental crap. Doesn’t win games. Whatever.

    I wanna see him do well period. I couldn’t care less who picked him. That’s a big part of the problem around here. They r ALL Raiders.

  • Raider Dell

    LOL

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Honestly, Soup was pretty bad azz at the play-action.

    ———————–

    Lol not according to some raider fans here.. Campbell sucked at everything yet they want flynn to start lol

    Get read for boring captain checkdown game. Leinart style

  • 0ak r8rs

    Just resigned Condo. New post coming soon probably.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Sentimental crap. Doesn’t win games. Whatever.

    I wanna see him do well period. I couldn’t care less who picked him

    ————–

    shush up roberta

  • Follow the B@uceman

    The Big Banana Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:15 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    Raider O Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 11:57 am
    B,

    When are you going again? Is there a limit? Do you have to pay?
    ******************

    Today I believe it is done….preseason starting Friday so they really gonna start gettin into it
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    I see. Maybe next year you can go more than once, or maybe you will be a reporter by then. lol

    ——–

    I think we’d all be game with B having access to all the practices and running this place.
    **********************

    Would love to do that….I’d give constant fixes….no 4K comment sections

    I’d let bloggers give ideas for fixes as well

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Sentimental crap. Doesn’t win games. Whatever

    —————–

    neither does 7th round backup qbs who have only started 2 games.. and is a checkdown master

  • Raiders for life

    Dell, thanks for the update on the RB’s

  • Just Fire Baby

    50 cent heinekins, dollar shrimp cocktails and two dollar steak and eggs. Roughed up and 86ed many moons ago

    ********************************

    When I was there, they were STILL doing the all-you-can eat dollar shrimp cocktails one night a week.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    RaiderDell

    I’ll let you young guys beat each other up with who should QB, after yesterday it should be Pryor, my opinion.

    ——————–

    careful man.. Raiders have a safe checkdown master willing to werk

  • Raider Dell

    B@uce,

    You are high on David Bass, I thought you would have broken him down a little better., I want to read your analysis.

  • RaidO

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    What’s funny is the media is just as clueless as these so called fans. The trib staff & local media instantly began touting Wilson va Flynn while simultaneously dismissing Pryor. Went so far as to call Wilson the future!!!!

    Last year weeks after my initial preseason takes to start Pryor and bench Palmer the local beat guys labeled me ” the more radical member of the fan base”

    LMAO. How about some jack families to wash down the crow and help ease the pain from Looking so foolish.

    Propagandist & media magicians……. EXPOSED!!!!
    ——————-

    Yes the overrating of Wilson was very comical. I think it was mostly Steve Corkran

    Uh??

    Raiders rookie QB Tyler Wilson impressing early
    May 13, 2013

    Oakland Raiders quarterback Tyler Wilson , a fourth-round selection out of the University of Arkansas, has “displayed the poise and skills of a seasoned veteran in only his second practice” according to Steve Corkran, a local beat writer with the San Jose Mercury News. Head coach Dennis Allen said, “Obviously, picking up a new system, there’s a little bit of rust there. But throwing the ball, he’s done a nice job. I don’t have any question about his arm strength and accuracy.”

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Raiders Beat ‏@RaidersBeat 15m #Raiders also interested in extending contracts of Marcel Reece and possibly Jacoby Ford, per @CorkOnTheNFL.

  • Chris in NY

    Code Condo, baby!

    Raiders Extend LS Jon Condo – http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-Extend-LS-Jon-Condo/20a55376-d30a-43aa-bb4e-a87b1546d2a1

    Has BSJ responded?

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    McFadden, Veldheer, Houston next.

  • 0ak r8rs

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
    Sentimental crap. Doesn’t win games. Whatever

    —————–

    neither does 7th round backup qbs who have only started 2 games.. and is a checkdown master

    @@@@@@@

    Ok? Not a big Flynn believer. Just so you know. I made questions about all of these QBs. Typical agenda in here. Just because I question Pryor you think I’m a Flynnstone? Nope.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    per CORK

  • RaiderRockstar

    Wide receiver Jacoby Ford returned to practice after missing most of the past five practices. He said a sore tendon behind one of his knees caused him to sit out since last Sunday.
    He said the injury just happened without his doing anything to cause it and that it’s nothing to worry about, unlike each of the past two training camps, when he suffered a broken hand and a foot injury.

    ***

    omg. what a pvssy!

  • Raiders for life

    Funny, I watched everyone of Flynn’s snaps in his two starts. He wasn’t a check down king.
    He does have a high release though. Looks kind of strange at times.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Nope.

    ——————-

    again Game time will tell. Lets see what happens

  • Just Fire Baby

    The key for D-Mac, no matter what scheme, is breaking tackles.

    Granted, being comy and CONFIDENT goes along ways in that.

    But at somepoint in times, it is you and the OLB and a bunch of grass.

    Make it happen Darren.

  • RaidO

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:26 pm
    Honestly, Soup was pretty bad azz at the play-action.

    ———————–

    Lol not according to some raider fans here.. Campbell sucked at everything yet they want flynn to start lol

    Get read for boring captain checkdown game. Leinart style
    ———————

    Yes if JC was “captain checkdown” as some on here like to call him then Flynn is “King checkdown”
    Same guys talking crap about JC are now praising Flynn.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Raiders also interested in extending contracts of Marcel Reece and possibly Jacoby Ford

    *****************************

    How can you extend Ford when he hasn’t even played in a year?

    What is the fkn hurry? If he plays well this year, extend him in November if you must.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Flynn is not a check down guy, where to people get this?

    He is almost reckless at times.

    YPA for his career is higher than almost every season CArson Palmer has ever had.

  • RaiderRockstar

    it sounds as if Khalif Barnes is on solid ground in terms of keeping his starting job.
    “I’ve been very pleased with Khalif Barnes,” Allen said. “Where he’s at, he’s done a good job for us.”

    ***

    +1 for RRS, JFB & Jhill

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Chris In NY Says:
    August 4th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
    Code Condo, baby!

    Raiders Extend LS Jon Condo – http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Raiders-Extend-LS-Jon-Condo/20a55376-d30a-43aa-bb4e-a87b1546d2a1

    Has BSJ responded?

    ==========================================

    No, and he won’t be. You see, his head just exploded. Emergency crews are on their way.

  • RaiderRockstar

    @JFB

    Ford just missed a week of training camp due to an injury he sustained doing nothing, he just confirmed.

    earlier in OTA’s it was a hamstring.

    cut bait already! pfft

  • Plunketthead

    Christopher Hansen ‏@ChrisHansenNFL 13h
    As I expected was the case, the final play of practice was a “silver jersey” play. Moore made the grab so the offense got the silvers back.