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Notes, quotes, practice update

The Raiders were still short on defensive linemen Monday but padded up anyway with a day off on Tuesday.

They had two more bodies than Sunday _ defensive tackle Stacy McGee returned and newly-signed Ryan Baker was immediately put into the mix.

Other players that returned included left guard Lucas Nix, who opened with the first team before giving way to Tony Bergstrom and linebacker Sio Moore. Return specialist Josh Cribbs, who tweeted he would probably be sitting out the Cowboys game in favor of younger players, got back into the mix late in practice after sitting out Monday.

Cornerback D.J. Hayden left briefly with a hamstring strain but later returned. Hayden is still wearing a red no-contact jersey, however, and was one of the players Allen ruled out of Friday’s game against Dallas.

“We’ll see where he’s at when we come back to work on Wednesday. The players are off tomorrow for the mandatory day off, so we’ll see where he’s at on Wednesday. DJ won’t play in the game against Dallas, and then we’ll kind of re-evaluate where we’re at with him after that,” Allen said.

Allen said Hayden being out is related to the offseason abdominal surgery for removing scar tissue and not the November surgery for repairing a torn blood vessel to his heart.

Others who won’t play include linebacker Kaluka Maiava, injured on one of the first days of practice and who was originally on crutches, as well as linebacker Miles Burris. Offensive tackle Menelik Watson could be added to that list, but Allen wouldn’t rule out defensive tackle Pat Sims until getting more information Wednesday. Sims has yet to take part in a training camp practice.

– Running back Jeremy Stewart came up with the catch of the day with a one-handed grab for a touchdown on a circle route from quarterback Matt Flynn. Denarius Moore, by contrast, had trouble holding on to the ball, with David Ausberry and Andre Holmes having some issues with drops as well.

– McGee looked fast and strong in getting the better of starting center Stefen Wisniewski in one-on-one blocking drills.

– Punter Chris Kluwe showed a nice touch kicking directionally to the corner near the end zone, as well as hitting balls with backspin which landed inside the 5-yard line.

– With Mike Jenkins and Terry Porter out for the second straight day, Chimdi Chekwa again worked with the first team. And Allen likes what he’s seen so far.

“I think Chimdi’s probably one of the most improved players on our team right now,” Allen said. “I think he’s had a nice camp. He’s done a nice job for us. He’s earned the right to be in the mix, and [we’re] anxious to see him go out in preseason games and see where he’s at.”

Another player who is moving up the ladder _ seventh-round draft pick Brice Butler.

“Brice Butler is a guy that for a seventh-round draft choice has stepped up and shown me some things,” Allen said.

– Allen said he would begin talking about a rotation for the Dallas game Wednesday with the players off. Offensive coordinator Greg Olson, Allen said, would call plays from the sideline, rather than the press box.

– Players from local high schools Napa, Vintage and American Canyon were invited guests of the Raiders along with their coaching staffs. They were given a pre-practice talk by former Raiders Sam Williams and Tony Stewart.

Former Raiders running back Justin Fargas was a practice guest.

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  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:12 pm

    Not liking much from camp reports, injuries, sloppy o play, both lines depleted, and player(s) smoking tree in the parking lot?

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    Injuries are happening to every team in the league. We’re not special in that regard.

    And the ganja use might not have even been us. Cowboys are training in town as well.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I have never been to a training camp practice, and this new tweeting of every play in practice is fairly new.

    But it seems like we drop a shatload of passes.

    Trying to through the Cat Scratch Reader (Panthers blog) and other tweets to see if they report on the same stuff.

    They are much less active then our guys on twitter but nope, nothing about multiple drops coupled with groans from the crowd.

    We need playmakers. Like 3 of them.

    I am pinning all my hope on Rivera. Go get em son.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    KoolKell Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 7:37 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    Just read the Pittsburgh Steelers are intergrating the ZBS system this year.

    Now the two toughest teams in the AFC, Steelers and Ravens, are ZBS teams.

    We had the right idea, wrong coach for it.

    ========================================

    Exactly. Forget Frank Pollack. Shoulda hired Alex Gibbs.
    ———————-
    Wrong Player for it.
    ========================================

    I hope you’re just getting sloppy and meant ‘players’, ‘cuz I think ZBS affects most of the offense. QB and WR’s less than the rest, but certainly Oline TE’s RB’s and HB’s.
    Or was it just one player that doomed Knapp?

  • Just Fire Baby

    OK, I can man up and admit my wiff on Chekwa.

    Good to see the emergence.

  • mikeschoice

    I got 5 on it!

  • JB

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 6:26 pm

    JB Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    Is Friday’s game televised locally?
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    Tape delay.
    *******************

    Time & channel?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Kluwe is one of the best pooch/dircectional kickers in the world.

    One TB for every 39 punts last year. Absolutely unheard of.

    Shane was like 1 out of 8 or something like that.

  • HonkeyT

    7 em 7

  • raideredoutL.A.

    Read a report o-line not looking good on pass pro, who the hell are they practicing against?

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:20 pm

    Read a report o-line not looking good on pass pro, who the hell are they practicing against?

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    Houston, Bass, Carter, Moore.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Jack Nicholson dancing to a Prince song. Holy crap. Idc if he’s the joker or not. It’s just not right.

  • raideredoutL.A.

    yikes

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    13

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    0ak r8rs Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    Jack Nicholson dancing to a Prince song. Holy crap. Idc if he’s the joker or not. It’s just not right.

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    Nicholson was only the third-best Joker anyway. Both Heath Ledger and Mark Hamill were considerably better.

  • mikeschoice

    ZBS not our style- reggie preserving some Raiders traditions of big back to pound rock -think van Eagan and athletic back – have to go power- I just hope we have line to pound it!

    Tough D – pound rock mix in backs out in flat and some pistol!

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Drove up Highway 101 Saturday to look at a llama near Eureka. Spent the night in the van just north of Willits.
    Some todo going on called ‘Reggae on the River’.
    Apparantly quite the big deal. Drove by it Sunday morning.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Offensive coordinator Greg Olson, Allen said, would call plays from the sideline, rather than the press box.

    @@@@@@@

    Opinions? I don’t like it. I didn’t like it when knapp did it and I don’t like it now. I realize there is all kinda of great technology that keeps the sidelines in the loop these days. But there’s no substitute for being above and seeing everything. You can’t possibly see everything you need to see on the sidelines.

  • http://InsidetheOaklandRaiders Goldie7

    “Justin Fargas was a practice guest.” Wow! I must be on the wrong blog or dreaming. Fargas was a practice guest? Why did we ever let this guy go in the first place? JF was the hardest working and toughest RB that we had. I miss Mr. Justin.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Lots of dreadlocks. My hair’s plenty long enough, but I didn’t do it.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I’ve been to Reggae on the River. Did mushrooms and saw Ziggy and Ben Harper.

    Dad was born in Ukiah.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Never understood the hate for Fargas. The crash test dummy was not a premier running back, but he left nothing on the field, each and every game on a woeful team.

  • Just Fire Baby

    If you are in the booth you lose something.

    Not sure what it is but there is an added benefit to being on the sidelines calling the plays.

    Maybe the cut the mic off earlier.

    Time to hit the google.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:24 pm
    0ak r8rs Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    Jack Nicholson dancing to a Prince song. Holy crap. Idc if he’s the joker or not. It’s just not right.

    =====================================

    Nicholson was only the third-best Joker anyway. Both Heath Ledger and Mark Hamill were considerably better.

    @@@@@@@

    Idc about the character as much as Nicholson himself doing the dancing. It’s like gene Hackman dancing to earth, wind and fire or something. It’s slightly nauseating.

  • mcfadden20.

    – McGee looked fast and strong in getting the better of starting center Stefen Wisniewski in one-on-one blocking drills.

    -/
    I think Stacy McGee is going to be a fine player for us

  • Myopinion

    All this talk about how awful our d line is
    May not be anstrong place but
    Seymour kelly what 10sacks
    Not even one a game, add in bryant, I still dont think we get there.
    Run defense, who did we lose?sims,walker,hunter,
    We had not 1 speed rusher last year, we have 4 potential,and a healthy,carter.

  • http://InsidetheOaklandRaiders Goldie7

    Fargas is tougher than any running back that we have today, and wasn’t injured often.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Yup, if the OC is in the booth, no direct communication to the QB.

    Has to relay the play to the backup QB.

    OC on the sidelines has direct line of communiation.

  • raideredoutL.A.

    Football friday coming soon!

  • mcfadden20.

    Fargas had heart, now only wish he had the talent of McFadden and durability of Curtis Martin

  • http://InsidetheOaklandRaiders Goldie7

    oops correction: Fargas was tougher than any running back that we have today.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Idc about Kelly and Seymour. But if we give up 200 on the ground Friday, we will hear nothing but Kelly and Seymour on Saturday. If any of the media actually bothers to talk about us that is.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:33 pm
    Yup, if the OC is in the booth, no direct communication to the QB.

    Has to relay the play to the backup QB.

    OC on the sidelines has direct line of communiation.

    @@@@@@@

    Well ok then. We certainly do need that. Makes me even angrier at knapp. Say want you want about Palmer, he’s a pro. He didn’t need knapp pissing in his ear.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Puig yelling at Adrian Gonzalez.

    His teammates hate him. Absolutely can’t stand him.

    Cousin did some scouting over the All-Star break with the local LA scribes.

  • Just Fire Baby

    The mic for the OC to the QB cuts off with like 5 or 10 secons left on the play-clock.

  • raideredoutL.A.

    #33, LOL, just win baby!

  • Crawfish Joe

    :mrgreen: Pryor 2013. :mrgreen:

    :cool: Mr PurvisMan. Glad your back. You missed some episodic in here last night.

    :x Scourge of the East :x

    :shock: SnBG20. How ya doing?

    So awesome to see the Pryor support is gaining momentum. dr rob was a big part in swaying me to want Pryor as our QB. I know that sounds crazy but when somebody rags a player like that, you can’t help but to look a little closer at him, Pryor in this case. Well guess what. Pryor has all the attributes to be a very good QB. And he just changed his mechanics, which some say is not possible, and got really good in just a few months. Six more months of working hard like he does, look out. Not dissin Flynn, just like Pryor. Feel his electricity could be a huge spark for a team in need of a spark. Plus he was the last pick of the late great Al Davis. And he still wears a Raider jersey. If DA decides to roll out Flynn on opening night, so be it. But when Pryor gets the call, the buzz will be electrifying. I am pumped to see him and the whole club when they come to Seattle. First hand, up front and close.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    And when we released him he did ZERO after that. Raider fan head over heels for mediocre players like Vargas & Nnamdi.

    smh
    _________

    Goldie7 Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

    “Justin Fargas was a practice guest.” Wow! I must be on the wrong blog or dreaming. Fargas was a practice guest? Why did we ever let this guy go in the first place? JF was the hardest working and toughest RB that we had. I miss Mr. Justin.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
    The mic for the OC to the QB cuts off with like 5 or 10 secons left on the play-clock.

    @@@@@@@@

    I knew that. But I didn’t think it mattered if you were in the booth as opposed to the sidelines.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I absolutely love PUig’s game, even though I hate the Dodgers. Was talking about him before anyone even knew who he was.

    He just needs to be humbled. He is heading down a bad path of ruining a great thing.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    0ak r8rs Says:
    Idc about the character as much as Nicholson himself doing the dancing. It’s like gene Hackman dancing to earth, wind and fire or something. It’s slightly nauseating.
    ==================================================

    What about Hackman in drag trying to groove to ‘We are Family’(I think) in the ‘The Bird Cage’?.
    Over and above that song being nauseating?

  • 0ak r8rs

    And when we released him he did ZERO after that. Raider fan head over heels for mediocre players like Vargas & Nnamdi.

    @@@@@@

    Namdi wasn’t mediocre. He was not a playmaker. That’s for sure. But he was far from mediocre. There’s something to be said for taking one WR out of the game, even if you don’t tackle well and never get a pick.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Crawfish Joe Says:
    :cool: Mr PurvisMan. Glad your back. You missed some episodic in here last night.
    ============================================

    I will check it out. Sundays are typically odd.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:42 pm
    0ak r8rs Says:
    Idc about the character as much as Nicholson himself doing the dancing. It’s like gene Hackman dancing to earth, wind and fire or something. It’s slightly nauseating.
    ==================================================

    What about Hackman in drag trying to groove to ‘We are Family’(I think) in the ‘The Bird Cage’?.
    Over and above that song being nauseating?

    @@@@@@@@

    I had blacked that out. Thanks. Jeez.

  • raideredoutL.A.

    Puig will be ok, very concerned with hanley though, guy is beast.

  • Crawfish Joe

    0ak R8rs Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:28 pm
    Offensive coordinator Greg Olson, Allen said, would call plays from the sideline, rather than the press box.

    @@@@@@@

    Opinions? I don’t like it. I didn’t like it when knapp did it and I don’t like it now. I realize there is all kinda of great technology that keeps the sidelines in the loop these days. But there’s no substitute for being above and seeing everything. You can’t possibly see everything you need to see on the sidelines.

    ===========================

    Agree. This is not good unless Olson has some super above average eyes in the sky that have good quick communication skills. Don’t like it one bit. I’m going to place a call tomorrow to HQ, no, I’ll email them and let them know. This is a big concern. Seriously.

  • mcfadden20.

    0ak R8rs Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
    And when we released him he did ZERO after that. Raider fan head over heels for mediocre players like Vargas & Nnamdi.

    @@@@@@

    Namdi wasn’t mediocre. He was not a playmaker. That’s for sure. But he was far from mediocre. There’s something to be said for taking one WR out of the game, even if you don’t tackle well and never get a pick.


    Nnamdi was pretty good against the run

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Nothing wrong with Olson on the sidelines. I’m sure Saunders will be more than capable of viewing things from the booth.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Nnamdi is a long-strider, and those are the guys that just fall off a cliff when they lose a step.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’ve been to Reggae on the River. Did mushrooms and saw Ziggy and Ben Harper.

    Dad was born in Ukiah.
    =====================================================

    Marley was represented. Julian? Got a local Redwood rag with the complete bill.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
    0ak R8rs Says:
    August 5th, 2013 at 8:43 pm
    And when we released him he did ZERO after that. Raider fan head over heels for mediocre players like Vargas & Nnamdi.

    @@@@@@

    Namdi wasn’t mediocre. He was not a playmaker. That’s for sure. But he was far from mediocre. There’s something to be said for taking one WR out of the game, even if you don’t tackle well and never get a pick.


    Nnamdi was pretty good against the run

    @@@@@@

    Eh. I don’t remember that. But maybe. Unknown he created about 0.0 turnovers a year.