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Rookie Butler doesn’t want to go Rambo on Raiders

By Steve Corkran
Sunday, August 11th, 2013 at 6:43 pm in Oakland Raiders.

NAPA – If wide receiver Brice Butler doesn’t know about Ken-Yon Rambo, it’s worth his time and effort to find out in the coming days so that he can avoid the kind of pitfall that derailed Rambo’s once-promising Raiders career.
Like Butler, Rambo joined the Raiders as a seventh-round draft pick on a team with plenty of receiver depth. Butler also followed the trail blazed by Rambo by turning a late-game catch into a pivotal touchdown in his Raiders debut Friday night.
The key now is for Butler to build upon his fast start and not flame out the way Rambo did in 2001. The Raiders released Rambo at the end of training camp. Butler still has plenty of time to bolster his stock.
“He’s been a nice surprise,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said of Butler.
Yet, what he has done so far is little more than a nice start in the overall scheme of things. It’s imperative Butler not get complacent and make too much of his showing against the Dallas Cowboys, when Butler led all receivers with 70 yards on his two receptions.
“We’ll make sure we keep our thumb on him, make sure he doesn’t read too much of the good stuff (reporters are) going to write about him,” Allen said.
Butler arrived from San Diego State via Southern Cal, the ninth of 10 players selected by the Raiders in the NFL draft in April.
He joined a crowded field of hopefuls that included undrafted rookies Greg Jenkins, Conner Vernon and Sam McGuffie and inexperienced players such as Travionte Session, Isaiah Williams and Juron Criner.
Making the leap from prospect to the opening-game, 53-man roster entails standing out during practice and games.
Denarius Moore did just that in 2011 and went from fifth-round draft pick to starting receiver. Rod Streater followed suit in 2012 in going from undrafted rookie to opening-day starter.
Now it’s Butler who is surging to the head of the class and making a push for not only a roster spot but meaningful playing time.
Streater said he and Butler bonded instantly because of their similar backgrounds, as well as their college stats.
Players in their situation have to be almost “perfect” to overcome the long odds, Streater added. They also have to put behind them stellar plays, solid practices and good games.
“You got to move on,” Streater said. “The coaches want to see improvement every game and the next game is the most important. You can’t live off the past.”
That already seems ingrained in Butler, who tired of all the praise from friends and family after the Cowboys game.
“I honestly don’t think I played that good,” Butler said. “Until those couple of plays on that one drive, I didn’t feel good about my play at all. I definitely have to work on it. Watching tape, there was a lot of stuff I can work on.”
Butler transferred to San Diego State after his junior season at Southern Cal when playing time dwindled. That experience prepared him for the tenuous existence of an NFL player.
“I can’t focus on what the coaches are thinking or what the other players are doing,” Butler said. “I’ve done that in the past, and it didn’t really go well for me. So, I’m really just focusing on what … I can do best for the team.”
Having a father that played in the NFL for 12 seasons gives Butler an edge in that he has someone to speak with about the process.
Bobby Butler played cornerback for the Atlanta Falcons from 1981-92. Brice said his father passes along tips on what to look for from cornerbacks and how to gain an advantage.

– Cornerback Taiwan Jones and linebacker Sio Moore suffered undisclosed injuries, and they weren’t able to finish practice.
They were among 16 players that missed some or all of practice. Allen said he is hopeful of getting back some players soon.

– Andre Gurode worked at right guard and Tony Bergstrom at left guard with the first-team offense.
Gurode and Bergstrom got all the reps because Mike Brisiel and Lucas Nix didn’t practice and weren’t able to compete for job openings.
Allen said it’s crucial for the Raiders to find five reliable offensive linemen as soon as possible, but it’s more important to make the proper decisions before the regular-season opener.

– The Raiders had a lengthy practice today on what passed for, perhaps, the hottest day of camp. Good thing for the players, the practice was without full pads.

– Matt Flynn and Terrelle Pryor received all but three reps in the longest session of the day. Matt McGloin came on for two reps — one was a hand-off — and Matt Wilson mopped up with one rep. He made a nice throw to Greg Jenkins on his lone snap.
Afterward, Allen said Wilson needs more work on his command of the playbook and execution. Until then, it appears as if undrafted rookie McGloin is going to get more reps than Wilson, a fourth-round draft pick.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch made the defensive play of the day when he ran stride for stride with tight end David Ausberry and hauled in a tipped pass from Wilson for an interception in the end zone.
On offense, Andre Holmes gets the nod for going up over two defenders and snaring a pass from Flynn for a touchdown. Later in practice, Holmes came close to making an even better grab on a deep throw from Pryor. Credit Chimdi Chekwa with the pass breakup.

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  • the famous dr robert

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
    Mystic, you are a cry baby. If you’re guy doesn’t get to start you throw a tantrum like some little teenage girl and root against the Raiders. Pzzy

    ***

    @SnBG

    think Palmer. you just described yourself!
    ********
    Palmer WAS the starter. No doubt at all.

    The Palmer bashing was idiotic and that’s why some of us complained.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Go look up Al’s history.

    Black QBs, Hispanic QBs, Hispanic coach, Black coach, female CEO…. Etc

    Kleuwe is more of a Raider than you’ll ever give him credit for.

    ***

    @Riff

    Al Davis is dead. Why are you comparing Kluwe to blacks, hispanics & females? He is none of those. He’s not even gey. Just some guy who wants to be in the media spotlight. Wants to be known for something (anything)

  • the famous dr robert

    97 vs 47.

    Numbers don’t lie.

    Liars do.

  • SnBG

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
    At least Kleuwe is good at his job.

    Nobody promotes themselves more than Peyton Manning. Nobody cares because he delivers.

    ***

    @Riff

    Kluwe is good? he delivers?

    then why did Minny cut him?

    and why did his 1 punt on Friday look like garbage?
    lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
    Don’t be a dk RRS, you know you have an anti gay hard on for Kluwe. Just say it, You don’t like him because he supports gay rights. Hypocrite and dishonest.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:42 pm

    Wow, So Reggie is such an idiot he traded for a quaterback no one wanted? Reggie cannot evaluate talent?

    =======================================

    The Flynn hate is ridiculous. Pryor may be more dynamic, but Flynn is the safer choice.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    If you guys would just stop talking to the trolls they will go away they only come here to try and validate their existence by getting a reaction form one of us.

  • the famous dr robert

    That endzone pick is one huge ugly wart on the nose of pryors qb face.

    Can’t get around it. It just keeps waving around in front of u.

    U can tell ur friends all of the other reasons why u want to date that face.

    But man that wart is a deal breaker.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    So funny how everyone thinks Pryor and Flynn played well when neither one could get the ball in the end zone..

    If you put Flynn and Pryor together you get Carson Palmer.

    1/2 of football no TD’s a fumble and an INT

    They both SUCK!

  • nycraider

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
    Nycraider Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
    When I was a kid, I would have told u stabler was better than fours of Bradshaw or staubach.
    ————————
    Glad to here it, did you know that Staubach QB rating was higher than Stabler’s? That shows how stupid it is to base everything off QB ratings
    *******
    That was my point.

    I loved stabler.

    But fouts, staubach, and Bradshaw were better.

    I know that now cuz I know the game better than a kid.
    —————-
    but wait , Bradshaws QB rating was much lower than Stablers..dont tell you based your analysis on something else than a QB rating?hmmmmm

  • RaiderRockstar

    @SnBG

    that comment was for Riff, see “@Riff” ??

    when I’m ready to ask you a question, I will.

    you’re rooting for the guy ONLY because he’s a gey rights media wh0re. I’ve debated his football stats with many on this blog, yet you keep coming back with non-football related topics and accusations.

  • the famous dr robert

    Said it once and no one responded.

    But u were sure it was funny so u said it again.

    Taking a page from Kell.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    Nycraider I like your posts and you seem to be a pretty cool guy but can you please stop talking to “IT” so “IT” will go away?

    Please

  • inonewordraider

    What’s the story on Burris ?

    I thought the ‘procedure’ he had done on his knee was ‘minor’ and that he was expected to be a full go in camp.

    Liked what I saw from Burris last year. This is a cat that can motor and will get after the QB.

    Where the fk is he ?
    ________
    really liked his pass rush

    at this point, showed me more pass rushing skill than sio

    i’m on sio, I know, but I just want and we need that guy to be a stud

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    when have i ever ‘rooted against the raiders”?

    you cats always go to that when ever i admit that the qb stinks and we have no shot

    happened with grads

    happens with palmer

    happening with flynn

    the raiders had and have no shot with these guys im willing to say so that is not “rooting against the raiders”

  • Raider Riff

    804.

    Exactly.

    Hating on geys or those who support them is no different than hating on minorities and those who support them.

  • SnBG

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:48 pm
    @SnBG

    that comment was for Riff, see “@Riff” ??

    when I’m ready to ask you a question, I will.

    you’re rooting for the guy ONLY because he’s a gey rights media wh0re. I’ve debated his football stats with many on this blog, yet you keep coming back with non-football related topics and accusations.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    I see threw you, anti gay rights guy.

  • inonewordraider

    pryor is exciting with more tools than Flynn and I hope he ends up being the starter

    but Flynn was solid, did better than pryor game 1, even if he wasn’t as exciting

    can pryor catch him and pass him up, as I believe he has to in order to win the job by game 1?

    we shall see

  • the famous dr robert

    Nycraider Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
    Nycraider Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
    When I was a kid, I would have told u stabler was better than fours of Bradshaw or staubach.
    ————————
    Glad to here it, did you know that Staubach QB rating was higher than Stabler’s? That shows how stupid it is to base everything off QB ratings
    *******
    That was my point.

    I loved stabler.

    But fouts, staubach, and Bradshaw were better.

    I know that now cuz I know the game better than a kid.
    —————-
    but wait , Bradshaws QB rating was much lower than Stablers..dont tell you based your analysis on something else than a QB rating?hmmmmm
    ********
    I misspoke. Bradshaw was lower. Stabler was better.

  • nycraider

    ilverandblack666 Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
    Nycraider I like your posts and you seem to be a pretty cool guy but can you please stop talking to “IT” so “IT” will go away?

    Please
    ———-
    understood my apoligies

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Hating on geys or those who support them is no different than hating on minorities and those who support them.”

    Just hate everyone equally its so much easier and works well for me.

  • DJ Johnny

    Some here say it doesn’t matter but there is a correlation between a QB’s height and SB wins.

    The only QB’s to win a SB UNDER 6’2 are Theismann and Brees.

    We could say it’s becuz the majority of teams throughout the years have not had a shorter QB and therefore the odds would be much greater that a 6’2 plus guy would be in the SB. Maybe that’s the case, but I find it to be an interesting factoid nonetheless.

  • Moose

    Hayden c`leard fe go test im eart

  • the famous dr robert

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
    Nycraider I like your posts and you seem to be a pretty cool guy but can you please stop talking to “IT” so “IT” will go away?

    Please
    ********
    We are talking about football.

    Stop ur non football posts.

  • theghostronin79

    It might not even be Flynn’s fault.

    At that point, Tits will turn to TP to provide some ENERGY and EXCITEMENT.

    Yep, I’m pretty sure TP is going to get his shot.

    =============

    Kinda like Gradkowski / Campbell?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Hating on geys or those who support them is no different than hating on minorities and those who support them.

    ***

    @Riff

    WAY different!! read the Bible sometime

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “understood my apoligies”

    We all do it from time to time just a friendly reminder.

  • Moose

    + art

  • DJ Johnny

    the famous dr robert Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:52 pm
    Nycraider Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
    Nycraider Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:38 pm
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:33 pm
    When I was a kid, I would have told u stabler was better than fours of Bradshaw or staubach.
    ————————
    Glad to here it, did you know that Staubach QB rating was higher than Stabler’s? That shows how stupid it is to base everything off QB ratings
    *******
    That was my point.

    I loved stabler.

    But fouts, staubach, and Bradshaw were better.

    I know that now cuz I know the game better than a kid.
    —————-
    but wait , Bradshaws QB rating was much lower than Stablers..dont tell you based your analysis on something else than a QB rating?hmmmmm
    ********
    I misspoke. Bradshaw was lower. Stabler was better.

    If u include their entire body of work I would agree as Stabler dropped his last yr in Oakland and had so-so years in New Orleans with Bum Phillips and Houston, but in his prime? Stabler at one point had a SB ring AND was the highest rated passer of all time, in addition to being clutch.

  • the famous dr robert

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:49 pm
    when have i ever ‘rooted against the raiders”?

    you cats always go to that when ever i admit that the qb stinks and we have no shot

    happened with grads

    happens with palmer

    happening with flynn

    the raiders had and have no shot with these guys im willing to say so that is not “rooting against the raiders”
    *******
    U actively hoped for Palmer to fail and laughed about losses.

    “I can’t wait til Palmer leads this team to defeat so I can tell u all I told u.”

    When Flynn is the starter all year, u will be chewing on ur tongue.

    That alone will mean a fun season.

  • Raider Riff

    821.

    Correlation doesn’t equal causation.

    So many good QBs don’t even get the chance due to lack of opportunity because they lack the standard measurables. So it makes the height rationale seriously flawed.

    We could make the same argument with black QBs or coaches. See my point?

    Height is the last reason to be knocking Flynn.

  • SnBG

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
    Hating on geys or those who support them is no different than hating on minorities and those who support them.

    ***

    @Riff

    WAY different!! read the Bible sometime
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    You take the bible to literally.

  • the famous dr robert

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:54 pm
    “understood my apoligies”

    We all do it from time to time just a friendly reminder.
    *******
    I’m talking football and the FIRST thing out of ur mouth is about me.

    U can’t stop ur love. U are to me what missdick is to Pryor.

    A super fan.

    But next time, say my name b1tch.

  • SnBG

    If u include their entire body of work I would agree as Stabler dropped his last yr in Oakland and had so-so years in New Orleans with Bum Phillips and Houston, but in his prime? Stabler at one point had a SB ring AND was the highest rated passer of all time, in addition to being clutch.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Snake did bring the Oilers to the O.co for the playoffs.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    flynn out played pryor?

    in what way

    they both had a turn over, flynns resulted in points for the cowboys

    pryor produced more yards got to the redzone and just out side of the redzone in the two minute drill

    flynn was 4/5 pryor was 6/10 but two throws were intentionally thrown away

    ther cmp % would have been very very close

    pryor gave us 2 scoring opportunities flynn gave uas one

    they both played 2 drives

    pryor also rushed for 31 yards at a 10 yard per clip

    pryor also had 8 ypa not exactly dink and dunk like flynn

    how did flynn outplay pryor?

  • Raider Riff

    825.

    Makes sense now.

    You think being gey is a “choice”.

    Gotcha. Never mind. Your ignorance prevents us from understanding each other on this subject.

    If only Pryor hadn’t chosen to be black. He would be starter by now. Dang. What a fool he is.

  • nycraider

    im trying to buy in hanson in the slot but im struggling. I do feel Reggie who i hammered last year on the cbs he brought in has put together our best secondary in years. i didnt see many positives from hanson last year, and he was toasted Friday night. One game , but hoping hayden can fill that role for us this year

  • the famous dr robert

    Nearly all 90+ rated qbs make the playoffs.

    Flynn is a 92 rated passer. 97 in the game Friday.

    How many career 72 passers make the playoffs these days!

    And a despicable 47 in the game Friday.

    Flynn: 10-6
    Pryor: 2-14

    That’s how big of a difference there is.

  • SnBG

    What’s wrong with Flynn being 6 2.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    You dont like geys but you support Rabi’s sucking off infants?
    =================================================
    Riff has an obsession about Rabbis ‘sucking off’ infants.

    This isn’t the first time he’s brought it up.

    First of all Riffypoo, they aren’t ‘sucking off’ the infants.

    Secondly, I don’t support using one’s mouth to cleanse blood after the circumcision ritual.

    Why take the chance of transmitting a disease if it can be avoided ? A pippette should be used to remove the blood and that is frequently done.

    Hope that clears things up for you, Riffy.

    Now, if you want to continue with your obsession about infant dicks, take it to your blog – or better yet ask your GF about it. I’m sure she’s an expert on the subject.

  • the famous dr robert

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:59 pm
    flynn out played pryor?

    in what way

    they both had a turn over, flynns resulted in points for the cowboys

    pryor produced more yards got to the redzone and just out side of the redzone in the two minute drill

    flynn was 4/5 pryor was 6/10 but two throws were intentionally thrown away

    ther cmp % would have been very very close

    pryor gave us 2 scoring opportunities flynn gave uas one

    they both played 2 drives

    pryor also rushed for 31 yards at a 10 yard per clip

    pryor also had 8 ypa not exactly dink and dunk like flynn

    how did flynn outplay pryor?
    ********
    If ifs and butts were candy and nuts.

    Excuses excuses.

    97 vs 47.

    The end.

  • nycraider

    Riff, would prefer to just talk football, but most semis in here could careless what type of person represents the raiders as long as they are productive. Most in here wouldnt mind if reggie hired someone with big t*ts to coach this team as long as we won. sorry couldnt resist

  • inonewordraider

    how did flynn outplay pryor?
    ________
    i count two mistakes made by pryor (bad pass to butler in the red zone, interception) to one for Flynn (fumble)

    Flynn looked poised in the pocket, sharp on his throws, and showed some escapability

    pryor showed his running ability, sharp on his throws, but looked indecisive at times whether to run or throw. Looked better after the pic which is a good sign

    i think many may have been swept up by the excitement of pryor, same way i feel about sio moore’s performance but when you look at it objectively, in my opinion

    Flynn won round one, but the fight is far from over

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “If only Pryor hadn’t chosen to be black. He would be starter by now. Dang. What a fool he is.”

    Pryor being a starter or backup is purely due to his ability not his skin color.

    You would have to a be a really slow idiot to think that the NFL would turn a blind eye to HGH rape murder dog killings wife beatings drug addicts and gun toting losers BUT SOMEHOW wont let a man play QB because of his skin color.

    DOH!

  • the famous dr robert

    I hope loser bot shows up soon now that silver is here.

    I need his calculations that he’s been tirelessly working in as a “non loser”.

    Gotta love the loser bot. (And the gossip girls who designed him)

  • SnBG

    It’s not so much that Flynn outplayed Pryor. It’s more about Pryor not reading the field and going to a different option and then making a bad mistake in the end zone. Every QB will miss a second option or not see an open guy but Pryor is not even trying to go elsewhere. He’S running a planned play from beginning to end without being flexible.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Gotcha. Never mind. Your ignorance prevents us from understanding each other on this subject.

    If only Pryor hadn’t chosen to be black. He would be starter by now. Dang. What a fool he is.

    ***

    @Riff

    I’m “ignorant” because I don’t agree with you on something? go figure. typical I’VE RUN OUT OF MATERIAL response. oh well. next topic.

  • Plunketthead

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 12:44 pm
    If you guys would just stop talking to the trolls they will go away they only come here to try and validate their existence by getting a reaction form one of us.

    ***************

    I like that and if more semis would set an example like swelldell, this place will be even more awesome

    But semis have to stop the name calling and nit picking

  • the famous dr robert

    Inonewordraider Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 1:04 pm
    how did flynn outplay pryor?
    ________
    i count two mistakes made by pryor (bad pass to butler in the red zone, interception) to one for Flynn (fumble)

    Flynn looked poised in the pocket, sharp on his throws, and showed some escapability

    pryor showed his running ability, sharp on his throws, but looked indecisive at times whether to run or throw. Looked better after the pic which is a good sign

    i think many may have been swept up by the excitement of pryor, same way i feel about sio moore’s performance but when you look at it objectively, in my opinion

    Flynn won round one, but the fight is far from over
    *******
    Solid take but Flynn isn’t to blame for the fumble. At all. He was bum rushed and nailed from behind.

    That’s not a passer mistake.

    DA blamed it on protection not Flynn.

    Watch it again. Nothing could be done.

  • The Big Banana

    Equating race to a sexual preference?

    Lol. Now I’ve heard it all. Is there a race of gays I’m not aware of?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Equating race to a sexual preference?

    Lol. Now I’ve heard it all. Is there a race of gays I’m not aware of?

    ***

    @Banana

    see “Sparkleponies”