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Woodson gets a day of rest

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, August 12th, 2013 at 1:35 pm in Oakland Raiders.

And on the 13th practice, Charles Woodson rested. Woodson, who vowed to be a regular practice participant and that coaches would have to pull him off the field, did not participate for the first time.

Coach Dennis Allen said after practice Woodson was being rested.

– A strong punting day for Marquette King, who out-kicked Chris Kluwe with a 50-yard punt to 36-yarder for Kluwe against Dallas. The Raiders punted only twice in the game.

– As promised, coach Dennis Allen began to work snappers other than Jon Condo into the special teams mix. Stefen Wisniewski rolled one to King in the end zone but was otherwise solid. Josh Cribbs took a break from his job as the personal protector on the punt team to get in a long snap.

– Minimal participation for rookie fourth-round pick Tyler Wilson, who did manage to get into a team session for one play and zipped a completion to wide receiver Connor Vernon.

– The Raiders have yet to see the defensive line they expect to start play together during training camp. Still out are Pat Sims, Vance Walker and Lamarr Houston. That leaves Christo Bilikidi and rookie Stacy McGee starting inside and veteran Andre Carter on the outside along with Jason Hunter.

– Running back Latavius Murray missed his second straight practice and his chances of unseating Rashad Jennings appear slim at this point.

– With Mike Brisiel missing his second straight day at right guard, veteran Andre Gurode again played that position alongside right tackle Khalif Barnes.

Others who missed practice included guard Lucas Nix, cornerback Taiwan Jones, tackle Menelik Watson, wide receiver Jacoby Ford, linebacker Miles Burris, linebacker Keenan Clayton, defensive lineman Brandon Bair, wide receiver Juron Criner, linebacker Billy Boyko and linebacker Kaluka Maiava.

– Free safety Reggie Smith had an interception during a 7-on-7 drill when a Terrelle Pryor pass bounced off the hands of tight end Brian Leonhardt.

– Quarterback Matt Flynn continues to show a knack for getting out of trouble then hitting receivers with short throws on the run, with running backs most often his targets.

– Tight end Jeron Mastrud was getting work with the first team offense in some packages. Mastrud played in Miami when Tony Sparano was the head coach and went through training camp in Tampa with Greg Olson as offensive coordinator. Allen said Mastrud’s strength is as an in-line blocker, making him a potential complement to rookie Mychal Rivera.

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  • Marks hair

    there’s almost nothing to the practice tweets today except for who was absent.. I wonder if they’re asking the media to cool it down on the information

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Papa says somepoint the preseason .. PRYOR has to play with the first team offense.

    DMAC comes from a wildcat, read option in school he will take to it fine according to papa.
    =================

    ok he as absolutely been reading my post deep in the archives lol

    its about damn time too

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    uh oh ….pryor is taking reps with the first team now?

    if thats true then flynn is losing ground fast

    when pryor eliminates the turn overs flynn is toast.

    pryor will eliminate the turn overs he has never been turn over prone

    smart young man

  • Marks hair

    there we go vic posted a few

  • ElkGRaider

    Cmon Mistic Garvey…like you were the only one saying Pryor should start…

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    KoolKell Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    Clay Matthews has to change to stop read-option quarterbacks

    The success of read-option quarterbacks in the NFL is forcing Packers linebacker Clay Matthews to alter the way he plays.

    Matthews said on ESPN that his preference is to fire off the ball and fly toward the quarterback at the snap. But after 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick employed a read-option attack to the tune of 181 rushing yards and 263 passing yards in a playoff win over the Packers, Matthews said he has had to learn a new approach.

    “I like to get after it. I like to just be going for it, getting after the quarterback,” Matthews said. “With this, it’s the complete opposite. You have to sit there and play pattycake with the tackle, making sure the quarterback doesn’t escape the pocket. You have to read and make sure who’s taking the ball, who’s not. It’s difficult for me to just kind of sit back, especially when Kaepernick was having such success throwing the ball that game, too, which caught us by surprise.”
    ===========================================

    This is exactly right. But as I have said over and over the success of the read option is a Q who can deliver the ball medium to deep very accurately over and over again. RGIII, Wilson, Kaepernick, Vick, Luck, can do that. If Pryor can’t, then he can’t be a R/O QB.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    wish i had heard what they said about pryor on the moring show, all three of those idiots thought the battle would be between flynn and wilson.

    this even after the news of wilson being demoted

    i called them once and told them they ere wrong about pryor, they refuse to take my call now when ever they talk qbs and raiders

    lol

  • Twocents

    Pryor will get a start in one of these pre-season games.

  • ElkGRaider

    You consider Wilson, Luck, and Vick read option QB’s?

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    uh oh ….pryor is taking reps with the first team now?
    =============================================

    Of course he is taking reps with the first team. He did weeks ago as well. It is a competition as you all wanted. I have been saying over and over I would like to see how Pryor does against lst team defenders. That is more of the true test.

  • Relentless

    Its looking like Pryor is gaining ground. Might be sooner than later that he starts with 1st team. Its almost inevitable.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    ElkGRaider Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    You consider Wilson, Luck, and Vick read option QB’s?
    ============================================

    Wilson and Vick certainly. Luck could be, but he is too valuable as a pure pocket passer.

  • rediaR

    *Walks in and sees a bunch of guys in a circle jerk around a Pryor shrine*
    *Immediately walks out*

  • Plunketthead

    Road game Thursday night. This is where we will see DA’s alternate practice times for off. The team will look better then they did in the first game.

  • ElkGRaider

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
    ElkGRaider Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    You consider Wilson, Luck, and Vick read option QB’s?
    ============================================

    Wilson and Vick certainly. Luck could be, but he is too valuable as a pure pocket passer.
    ==========

    Vick would get killed in the read option. And Wilson is not fast by any means. He’s not a runner. Just has escapability. Same as Luck.

  • Raider E

    Dr. Flip Flop,

    Just got back from your mom’s house, and she wanted me to let you know that she has counted your piggy bank.

    She says you are now at $12.00 minus her service charge of a pack of Newports. Leaving your balance at $5.85.

    Better start putting a little extra away so you have my money come January.

  • ElkGRaider

    RediaR Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:01 pm
    *Walks in and sees a bunch of guys in a circle jerk around a Pryor shrine*
    *Immediately walks out*
    ========

    Ha…dont hate. He just makes the team very EXPLOSIVE! *rimshot*

  • Relentless

    Little children and nerds use *

  • RAIDERMAN99

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
    Fire Kluwe yesterday!!
    ================================
    And do it again tomorrow to be sure !

    Keep hearing about how great Kluwe is at avoiding touchbacks.

    After watching his puny punt Friday, I realized he only avoids touchbacks bcz his leg is too weak to reach the end zone.

  • Plunketthead

    According to Jonathan Jones of the Charlotte Observer, backup tackle Bruce Campbell will need surgery to repair a rotator cuff injury. Coach Ron Rivera was unsure if it would be season ending.

  • ElkGRaider

    Relentless Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:04 pm
    Little children and nerds use *
    =========

    Some are so cool on a blog. So cool…

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    rediaR Says:
    *Walks in and sees a bunch of guys in a circle jerk around a Pryor shrine*
    *Immediately walks out*
    ======================================================

    Aren’t you the one that ‘backs slowly out of the blog’ that memorable midnight back in May?

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    ===========================================

    This is exactly right. But as I have said over and over the success of the read option is a Q who can deliver the ball medium to deep very accurately over and over again. RGIII, Wilson, Kaepernick, Vick, Luck, can do that. If Pryor can’t, then he can’t be a R/O QB.
    ========================

    lol stop lying bush

    you didnt know what the read option was

    you didnt know what they hybrid offense was

    you said it wouldnt work or last in the nfl

    you said defensive coordinators would ‘figure it out”

    you were dead set against newton rgIII and wilson you said they would flop

    STICK TO YOUR GUNZ BUSH WE ALREADY KNOW YOU DONT KNOW SHID ABOUT THE SUBJECT.

    lol

    wikipedia wont save you

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    ===========================================

    This is exactly right. But as I have said over and over the success of the read option is a Q who can deliver the ball medium to deep very accurately over and over again. RGIII, Wilson, Kaepernick, Vick, Luck, can do that. If Pryor can’t, then he can’t be a R/O QB.
    ========================

    lol stop lying bush

    you didnt know what the read option was

    you didnt know what they hybrid offense was

    you said it wouldnt work or last in the nfl

    you said defensive coordinators would ‘figure it out”

    you were dead set against newton rgIII and wilson you said they would flop

    STICK TO YOUR GUNZ BUSH WE ALREADY KNOW YOU DONT KNOW SHID ABOUT THE SUBJECT.

    lol

    wikipedia wont save you
    ===============================================

    Another dumb post. Only this one is REALLY DUMB. Almost as dumb as when you thought Chris Ault was hired by the Raiders, instead of KC.

  • Relentless

    Flynn=Tebow crap

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    They are on 95.7 the game talking how far Pryor has come and the energy he is bring.

    Another pryor doubter has been won over. Chris Townsend said Pryor has won him over and he can see him being the starter. Another one

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    bringn*

  • RaiderRetribution

    1 word I agree Barron is one of top OLinemen, maybe our 3rd best after Vehldeer & Wisniewski. Raiders are at actually 4 deep at Offensive Tackle, with each capable of playing the all important LT.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:00 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    uh oh ….pryor is taking reps with the first team now?
    =============================================

    Of course he is taking reps with the first team. He did weeks ago as well. It is a competition as you all wanted. I have been saying over and over I would like to see how Pryor does against lst team defenders. That is more of the true test.

    ==========================

    what?!?!?!

    bwhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    BUSH ?!?!?!?!?!?

    you said pryor would switch positions , be cut, or traded

    you said he wouldnt even make the team, so what do you mean “of course” ?

    this dude cant keep his lies straight

    or he was simply beaten silly by pryors astounding ascension up the depth chart

  • ElkGRaider

    Relentless Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:12 pm
    Flynn=Tebow crap
    =========

    Thank you for adding so much thought and insight to the adult conversation…

  • Relentless

    I want the QB that gives us the best chance to win. Right now it looks like it’s Pryor. The energy he brought, the different formations being used looked great. Its not a feature any other QB has on this team. One blemish that he had this game was the int but other than that looks like he’ll get to the end zone with ease.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    ===========================================

    This is exactly right. But as I have said over and over the success of the read option is a Q who can deliver the ball medium to deep very accurately over and over again. RGIII, Wilson, Kaepernick, Vick, Luck, can do that. If Pryor can’t, then he can’t be a R/O QB.
    ========================

    lol stop lying bush

    you didnt know what the read option was

    you didnt know what they hybrid offense was

    you said it wouldnt work or last in the nfl

    you said defensive coordinators would ‘figure it out”

    you were dead set against newton rgIII and wilson you said they would flop

    STICK TO YOUR GUNZ BUSH WE ALREADY KNOW YOU DONT KNOW SHID ABOUT THE SUBJECT.

    lol

    wikipedia wont save you
    ===============================================

    Another dumb post. Only this one is REALLY DUMB. Almost as dumb as when you thought Chris Ault was hired by the Raiders, instead of KC.
    ================

    i mis read the tweet about chris ault and was wrong on that, but I was right about the pistol and hybrid coming to oakland in the very same post.

    1 out of 2 isnt bad bush

    you have been wrong on every front

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
    JB Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    Here’s a real radical thought, maybe it’s time to have multiple starting QB’s.
    =======================================

    Na, guys need to get into a rhythm with their Olinemen and others. Switching up won’t work.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Exactly Oakglen.
    It takes a while for the OL to jell let alone the OL and the quarterback.

  • Whoknows
  • Relentless

    Elk would have targeted I gave you an explanation than that simplicity.

  • Relentless

    Damn spell check…

  • DJ Johnny

    I’m just throwing this out there, but with Raiders in obvious position where they need a supportive fanbase..perhaps more than others at this juncture, would it make any difference if the fans were overwhelmingly in support of Pryor to get the nod?

    I realize the most popular position on a team is the backup qb but how much of a factor, if any would a loud and demanding fanbase for Pryor play into possibly tipping the scales?

  • Relentless

    DJ I would say none until Flynn starts losing and DA feels the heat.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    I’m just throwing this out there, but with Raiders in obvious position where they need a supportive fanbase..perhaps more than others at this juncture, would it make any difference if the fans were overwhelmingly in support of Pryor to get the nod?

    I realize the most popular position on a team is the backup qb but how much of a factor, if any would a loud and demanding fanbase for Pryor play into possibly tipping the scales?
    =========================

    its already beginning to happen johhny

    and mark davis is listening, he needs to put butts in the seat

    in fact i think davis is one of pryors biggest fans
    pryor has star power

    flynn is a stunt double, good in spot duty but he cant carry the film

  • Relentless

    I’m also sure nobody’s rushing to get their Flynn jerseys and losing with Flynn won’t get the coliseum sold out.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:12 pm

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    ===========================================

    This is exactly right. But as I have said over and over the success of the read option is a Q who can deliver the ball medium to deep very accurately over and over again. RGIII, Wilson, Kaepernick, Vick, Luck, can do that. If Pryor can’t, then he can’t be a R/O QB.
    ========================

    lol stop lying bush

    you didnt know what the read option was

    you didnt know what they hybrid offense was

    you said it wouldnt work or last in the nfl

    you said defensive coordinators would ‘figure it out”

    you were dead set against newton rgIII and wilson you said they would flop

    STICK TO YOUR GUNZ BUSH WE ALREADY KNOW YOU DONT KNOW SHID ABOUT THE SUBJECT.

    lol

    wikipedia wont save you
    ===============================================

    Another dumb post. Only this one is REALLY DUMB. Almost as dumb as when you thought Chris Ault was hired by the Raiders, instead of KC.
    ================

    i mis read the tweet about chris ault and was wrong on that, but I was right about the pistol and hybrid coming to oakland in the very same post.

    1 out of 2 isnt bad bush

    you have been wrong on every front
    ===============================================

    Mistic a lot of people here accuse you of being a liar. And your post is just packed with just out and out lies. Why can’t you just tell the truth?

    The Read Option Pistol offense has been around for one season. I told you how to defense it. Funniest part is I have the actual game used polaroids from the NFC Championship Game last year, where Mike Nolan defends those plays. And Nolan does EXACTLY what I said to do to defense it. So as usual, you guys are all on one side, and me and the NFL people are on the other.

    Stick to posting your silliness. We all need a good laugh each time you post.

  • Whoknows

    I would be shocked to see someone with a Flynn jersey.

  • ElkGRaider

    I realize the most popular position on a team is the backup qb but how much of a factor, if any would a loud and demanding fanbase for Pryor play into possibly tipping the scales?
    ============
    In this case I don’t think it matters. It’s obvious TP is the more talented and gifted QB.

    If they are even close in competition now (and many assume that), you go with the guy who has a chance to be special. This guy could be a franchise type QB. Ceiling is too low on Flynn…

    That said…the coliseum could burn down if its week 3, we are 0-3, and TP is still on the bench

  • the famous dr robert

    I will be on 95.7 the game later.

    I will let u know when.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    New post.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    If I’m Tits Allen and I’m doing some introspection…

    I’m wondering how I could have been stupid enough to hire Greg Krapp as my OC and how did I go along with having Matt Lice as my backup QB, at the expense of attempting to develop TP.

    I’m wondering how I kept TP inactive virtually all of the 2012 season.

    Yep, if I’m Tits Allen, I’m taking a long hard look in the mirror, and after I’m done laughing hysterically at my moobs – I’m thanking the stars above that I’ve still got a job.

  • ElkGRaider

    Looking at NFL.com and they have a way to compare stats (cause too many people call R Dub a read option QB). Got R Dub, RG3, Kaep, and Cam on there. Cam had a damn good year! Had too many ints though.

    But yeah…Reggie Wilson had half the yards in rushing the others did. He’s more of a prototypical qb…

  • kidseven

    I’m reasonably excited by Pryor, but what evidence do we have that Flynn “can’t carry the team” and that he’s “reached his ceiling”? Among his very few complete games includes a record-setting performance.

  • Kirk

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    August 12th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
    If I’m Tits Allen and I’m doing some introspection…

    I’m wondering how I could have been stupid enough to hire Greg Krapp as my OC and how did I go along with having Matt Lice as my backup QB, at the expense of attempting to develop TP.

    I’m wondering how I kept TP inactive virtually all of the 2012 season.

    Yep, if I’m Tits Allen, I’m taking a long hard look in the mirror, and after I’m done laughing hysterically at my moobs – I’m thanking the stars above that I’ve still got a job.
    /////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Bingo.

    I felt this way all last season.

  • Bigmike34

    Stats…NOT BS.

    Flynn NFL Career….87/141..61.7%..1083 Yards 9TDs/ 5ints.

    Long completion 80 yards with 4 completions over 40 yards
    ====================================================
    Pryor NFL Career

    14/30…46.7% …155 yards…2TDs/1INT…Long Completion 38 Yards
    ===================================================

    HOPEFULLY YOU PRYOR PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND …FACTS..

    DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE….THAT A 46% PASS COMPLETION AVG IS BETTER THEN 61%…OR… IS EVEN IN THE BALL-PARK FOR A NFL QB

    FACTS ARE A TERRIBLE THING TO WASTE