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Punch to the gut _ Veldheer has torn triceps

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, August 14th, 2013 at 12:35 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Jared Veldheer has a torn left triceps and coach Dennis Allen said it’s likely the Raiders best lineman will be placed on the injured reserve, designated for return list. That means the Raiders will be without their best offensive man and the blindside protector for quarterbacks Matt Flynn and Terrelle Pryor for at least eight games.

Allen would only say Veldheer’s absence would be a “significant” amount of time. The procedure for putting a player on the designated for return I.R. is to put Veldheer on the 53-man roster at the final cutdown. On the Tuesday preceding the season opener, Veldheer would go in the list, would be removed from the 53-man roster and the Raiders could sign another player.

Veldheer would be out six weeks and return to the team, but still would be unable to play for two more weeks. That would make the earliest possible date Veldheer could return would be Nov. 3 against the Philadelphia Eagles.

Alex Barron, the former St. Louis Rams first-round draft pick who has mostly played right tackle in his career, will start for the Raiders against New Orleans Friday night.

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  • SnBG

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 3:55 pm
    “Someone said they would take cable over Allen any day and I agree,but Raiderduck said you must not care about winning.When has a 4-12 coach been a winner and I don’t want to here about he only had 1 year because that’s all we have to go on.”

    Cable walks on water in Seattle right now the locals love him. He could sacrifice a small child to Satan and that fan base would not care.

    Not saying he is a “PROVEN” NFL HC just sayin.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Cable isn’t the HC.

  • GhostToThePost

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
    I’m not that concerned about LT position,
    ==============
    Couldn’t be more wrong.
    Very few teams survive a season without a very solid LT.

  • SR Raider

    Sparano has his work cut out for him. C’mon coach, get’er done

  • Marks hair

    brisels only making this team cause hes on a dead money scholarship… false start Barnes will be the left tackle and Baron will go back to the right side.. unless they want to give Barron his first shot at left tackle in the NFL… it wouldn’t be shocking but it would be a little unexpected.

  • the famous dr robert

    SnBG Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 3:59 pm
    Oh Oh, wait a minute, maybe a male witch can be a Warlock.

    A male witch is absolutely called a warlock. A wizard and sorcerer are different and all-though the three may overlap at times there are distinctions.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warlock
    *******
    Oh boy. Can a blog discussion about “black magic” and “white magic” be far. Off for this place?

  • Follow the B@uceman

    GhostToThePost Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:02 pm
    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
    GhostToThePost Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 3:39 pm
    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 3:32 pm
    No matter who we have to put at T…..Brisiel must be out at RG
    =============
    Barron, who stunk at RT, is now going to be in a LT?
    Oh lord.
    He might rival Kwame for penalties given up.
    ************************

    I have no clue who the LT or RT will be….Not exciting prospects I know but no one is as bad as Kwame….2008 season I told this blog that he would be a disaster and he was
    ===================================
    IMO, most important position, after the qb, is LT for a right handed qb.
    And we don’t have a solid LT.
    Or a solid RT.

    And Barron hasn’t played since 2010?

    Scary as hell for the qb.
    *****************

    Sparano and Olsen will scheme for such…we will be okay not stellar but make due until November

  • Al_is_theraiders

    shut up mctroll…you know jacksh!t about football…

  • Marks hair

    just another good reason for us to run two tight end sets

  • Follow the B@uceman

    Anyhow…hittin the pool….yall keep ya heads up and stay strong…we wont be a 3-4 win team this season

    Just Win

    CODE BLACK 2013

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    SnBg

    You did read the sentence above yours that said he was not a “PROVEN NFL HC” didn’t you?

    Just checkin…

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    “Alex Barron was a player that frustrated Rams fans when he was on the team. Honestly, as a blocker he was nothing special, but that wasn’t why he was hated here, it was the penalties, during his time with the Rams I believe he was 2nd in penalties in the NFL. When the Rams drafted Rodger Saffold the team shipped Barron off to Cowboys for linebacker Bobby Carpenter in a trade. The Rams ended up cutting Carpenter, and Barron ended up costing the Cowboys a game (holding on a last second touchdown throw). I believe his future is as a 3rd OT, he’s a player that can stay healthy, but besides depth there’s not much upside”

    http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/8/14/4621866/alex-barron-just-went-from-unemployed-to-oakland-raiders-starter

  • lefty12

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1736088-terrelle-pryor-still-struggling-with-footwork-decision-making
    ============================
    This is why Flynn should and will START the season as the starter.How long he keeps it is really all on Pryor.As for the LT-next man up.

  • GhostToThePost

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
    C’mon with Barron can’t play cuz he didn’t do well in past, have you guys never heard about a player becoming better in latter part of the year, plus you guys been hearing some good news about him in the camp
    ===============
    latter part of the year?
    Huh?
    Barron was viewed as a total bust in St Louis, year after year.
    he also, I believe, either set a record, or was close to a record penalty machine.

  • SnBG

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
    shut up mctroll…you know jacksh!t about football…
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Quite being so nasty. Just because someone doesn’t agree with you is no reason to be a dk.

  • the famous dr robert

    Follow The B@Uceman Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Text on occasion? Ok…good hands? So that means they will be much better
    *********
    Yes text. Players were disappointed and u become close to ur players over time.

    Just words of encouragement and support and letting me know what’s going on. Pretty simple.

    Several of the coaches are returning and the new HC has experience. I don’t know how they will do comparatively but not too much has changed.

  • Marks hair

    we’re going to have two of the highest penaltys per play ot’s in the history of the NFL starting for us this year…

  • Chris in NY

    I’d say Veldheer’s injury should boost the consideration to start Pryor. We’re going to need a guy who can keep plays alive and make big gains. The line isn’t going to be consistent enough to give us time to play a controlled dink and dunk game.

    I don’t hate on Flynn. I think he’s better than Campbell. I’d compare him to a less mobile version of Grads. He’s decent, but he doesn’t have the potential to carry this team like Pryor.

  • SnBG

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:06 pm
    SnBg

    You did read the sentence above yours that said he was not a “PROVEN NFL HC” didn’t you?

    Just checkin…
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Ah good point, My apologizes.

  • the famous dr robert

    Lol. LT goes down and it gets spun to how it means Pryor should start.

    Flynn is the better qb. The end.

  • mcfadden20.

    Well I would never claim to be a football analyst n I don’t need to be a football analyst to be part of this blog.. Stfu already , I don’t give a fuk what ur annoying trolling a$$ thinks about me

  • lefty12

    We led the league in penalties every year before DA became HC.We weren’t even close last year.Hopefully he can help Barron eliminate his penchant for them.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1736088-terrelle-pryor-still-struggling-with-footwork-decision-making
    ============================
    This is why Flynn should and will START the season as the starter.How long he keeps it is really all on Pryor.As for the LT-next man up.
    —————————————
    I read some of that article. Funny though according to the Poll of people who read it. 64% said Pryor should start.

    You didn’t know that?

  • the famous dr robert

    Mcf20–relax dude. If u were at the grocery store and some homeless insane man was yelling at u, would u get upset?

    Same thing. They’re to be pitied.

  • mcfadden20.

    GhostToThePost Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
    Mcfadden20. Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
    C’mon with Barron can’t play cuz he didn’t do well in past, have you guys never heard about a player becoming better in latter part of the year, plus you guys been hearing some good news about him in the camp
    ===============
    latter part of the year?
    Huh?
    Barron was viewed as a total bust in St Louis, year after year.
    he also, I believe, either set a record, or was close to a record penalty machine.


    Latter part of their career, there are many examples of players who were busts in their early career, only to play solid later late into their career, n I’m basing that off the camp he’s having, maybe the guy worked out on his craft this offseason and improved on whatever that ailed him

  • the famous dr robert

    KoolKell Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
    Lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1736088-terrelle-pryor-still-struggling-with-footwork-decision-making
    ============================
    This is why Flynn should and will START the season as the starter.How long he keeps it is really all on Pryor.As for the LT-next man up.
    —————————————
    I read some of that article. Funny though according to the Poll of people who read it. 64% said Pryor should start.

    You didn’t know that?
    *********
    Reality doesn’t mean anything to idiots.

  • Marks hair

    Flynn won’t last long, so it doesn’t really matter if he starts.. either way TP will get plenty of development this year. and either way we’re not gonna make the playoffs..

  • Al_is_theraiders

    mcxcuse deserves it…

  • mcfadden20.

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:15 pm
    Mcf20–relax dude. If u were at the grocery store and some homeless insane man was yelling at u, would u get upset?

    Same thing. They’re to be pitied.


    Well if that homeless man just did it once wouldn’t matter but if see that homeless man doing that to everyone every day then that homeless man needs some mental help

  • inonewordraider

    defensive coordinators will be targeting barron

    hope he’s ready, looked good friday

  • lefty12

    I knew that but that was fans voting.Fans voting don’t decide sh!t -thankfully.

  • Marks hair

    maybe barron looks good against OUR de’s…

  • DutchRaider77

    521.lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:14 pm
    We led the league in penalties every year before DA became HC.We weren’t even close last year.Hopefully he can help Barron eliminate his penchant for them.

    ________________________________________________

    There is a Baron interview on Raiders.com when he was signed, to me it sounds like he was one of those guys that didn’t make the most of his oppurtunity the first time around…maturity and working at a crap job changes people.

  • mcfadden20.

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
    mcxcuse deserves it…

    -/
    Mcxcuse ?? Said the guy who doesn’t want support the new management because under the last management we were so bright like 45-120 record

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
    I knew that but that was fans voting.Fans voting don’t decide sh!t -thankfully.
    ——————————
    That was a Fan writing, too. He doesn’t mean schit either.

  • mcfadden20.

    Yah yah I know 3 Super Bowl trophies, but what was exactly that Al was doing that was going to lead us back to #4?

  • Chris in NY

    Also worrisome is that while Reggie has done a pretty good job remaking the LB and secondary, his track record with o-line is pretty terrible.

    - Brisiel was his big free agent signing last year. Total bust.
    - Bergstrom was his first pick. Looks like a career backup.
    - We’ll see on Watson. I’m not writing him off yet, although I know many are.
    - Green Bay’s offensive line has been its weak link for several years.

  • GhostToThePost

    Mcfadden20. Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:16 pm
    GhostToThePost Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:07 pm
    Mcfadden20. Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 3:58 pm
    C’mon with Barron can’t play cuz he didn’t do well in past, have you guys never heard about a player becoming better in latter part of the year, plus you guys been hearing some good news about him in the camp
    ===============
    latter part of the year?
    Huh?
    Barron was viewed as a total bust in St Louis, year after year.
    he also, I believe, either set a record, or was close to a record penalty machine.


    Latter part of their career, there are many examples of players who were busts in their early career, only to play solid later late into their career, n I’m basing that off the camp he’s having, maybe the guy worked out on his craft this offseason and improved on whatever that ailed him
    ———–
    very few who are busts early get a chance to shine later.
    We’ll see on Barron, but a few reports from camp, on 7 on 7 drills? Or Barron pancaking someone who likely won’t make the team doesn’t give me all that much confidence on a guy that the lowly Rams gave up on.

  • lefty12

    Exactly Dutch-it happens all the time.Guys get 2nd chances and take advantage of them.As fans that is what we must hope for.Or else you can just have the sky is falling we’re doomed attitude.I’d prefer to play the hope card.

  • http://ho-lee-fuk 909RaiderLifer

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    With the updated news that Veldheer’s triceps is only “partially” torn and saying he will be available “much of the season” does it mean he’s still having surgery?

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
    Just a guess that he’ll have to go under the knife, to get it repaired.. Speeds up the healing process in the long run…

  • GhostToThePost

    Inonewordraider Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:18 pm
    defensive coordinators will be targeting barron
    ==============
    Understatement of the year.

    The Colts are drooling as we speak.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Exactly Dutch-it happens all the time.Guys get 2nd chances and take advantage of them.As fans that is what we must hope for.Or else you can just have the sky is falling we’re doomed attitude.I’d prefer to play the hope card.
    ——————————————-
    I’m sure you two are hoping J Russell gets a second chance, yes?

  • mcfadden20.

    Good coaching find a way to overcome obstacles, sparano will coach up the new guy at LT , I think we will be fine

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    I told you dorks we should have kept Palmer. Who else would this retarded fan base like to see get sacked 12 times a game!

  • lefty12

    Chris-come on.Bergs was a supplemental 3rd rd pick-essentially a 4th rounder.That he is vying for a starting job isn’t too bad.

  • mcfadden20.

    KoolKell Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:25 pm
    Lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Exactly Dutch-it happens all the time.Guys get 2nd chances and take advantage of them.As fans that is what we must hope for.Or else you can just have the sky is falling we’re doomed attitude.I’d prefer to play the hope card.
    ——————————————-
    I’m sure you two are hoping J Russell gets a second chance, yes?


    If he was on the Raiders , ofcourse , why would they care about non-Raider?

  • GhostToThePost

    Lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
    Exactly Dutch-it happens all the time.Guys get 2nd chances and take advantage of them.As fans that is what we must hope for.Or else you can just have the sky is falling we’re doomed attitude.I’d prefer to play the hope card.
    ================
    I guess I would rather play the “sign the first marginal tackle released” card, because putting the season on the line with a tackle who didn’t do well as a RT, now playing LT?
    The result of bad play on this bad tackles part is the qb getting pummeled, maybe worse.
    Granted it’s not like we have a lot of options, but reality is reality.
    And the reality is if someone like Kwame harris totally sucks at LT, chances are they will again, and that’s what happened.
    Hate to see the qb’s find that out the hard way, ya know?

  • mcfadden20.

    Lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:27 pm
    Chris-come on.Bergs was a supplemental 3rd rd pick-essentially a 4th rounder.That he is vying for a starting job isn’t too bad.


    Exactly , these guys make it sound like he was an a first rd pick or something

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “I’m sure you two are hoping J Russell gets a second chance, yes?”

    He had a second chance but got caught receiving a blow job from an out of work Alameda Real estate agent in a back alley…sound familiar?

  • DutchRaider77

    538.lefty12 Says:
    August 14th, 2013 at 4:23 pm
    Exactly Dutch-it happens all the time.Guys get 2nd chances and take advantage of them.As fans that is what we must hope for.Or else you can just have the sky is falling we’re doomed attitude.I’d prefer to play the hope card.

    _____________________________________________________

    Seriously, over the years all the players that the Raiders gave second chances to…were F-ing due for one to pan out big time!

  • lefty12

    Phuck the bust.He doesn’t deserve a 2nd chance.If you can’t see the difference that is your problem.