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Will Raiders play it safe with Veldheer?

The torn left triceps sustained by Jared Veldheer, according to a Tweet from ESPN’s Adam Schefter, is a “lesser form” of the same injury which sidelined Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis and 49ers defensive lineman Justin Smith last season.

Coach Dennis Allen said putting Veldheer on the injured reserve list designated for return was “the direction we’re headed.” That would put Veldheer out a minimum of seven games, with the earliest possible return date Nov. 3 against the Philadelphia Eagles.

Lewis missed the last 12 games of the regular-season with his injury. Smith missed two regular-season games then had a bye week before the playoffs. Both played in the postseason and were clearly affected by the injury.

If the Raiders think Veldheer could be back before seven games, they could always leave him on the 53-man roster. One thing to keep in mind is Veldheer is a 26-year-old left tackle with huge earnings potential down the road in a contact year should he come back strong. Lewis and Smith were players nearing the end of their careers playing at well under 100 percent for a chance at the Super Bowl.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • SnBG

    If those professionals had looked at Flynn in Detroit they wouldn’t be saying such nasty things about Flynnie.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I didn’t see Foles INT in the end zone.

    That’s not good for him.

    Advantage Vick

  • RaiderDebo

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2013 at 5:56 pm
    Foles scored 7 points, Vick has scored 7 points.

    What am I missing here?

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    As usual, plenty because you aren’t watching the game.

  • The Big Banana

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    August 15th, 2013 at 5:47 pm
    3rd and 6, 1 yard pass by Flacco.

    Got the first on the YAC though

    —–

    It’s all good as long as you get it to your receiver while in position to make a play.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Sapp railing on red zone INT’s.

    Agreed with him

  • SnBG

    Foles threw an int in the red zone,,very, very bad.

  • Marks hair

    its Vicks job

  • RaiderDebo

    Vick is the ultimate competitor. He’s been brilliant during this supposed controversy. I wonder how guys like Tony Romo or Phillip Rivers would hold up under similar circumstances? Jay Cutler? Every one of those guys deserves competition IMO.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Who gets hurt first:

    Vick, RGIII, Flynn, Big Ben

    I say it goes:

    IRG’III
    Flynn
    Vick
    Big Ben

  • SnBG

    Vick is looking good but why can’t he slide???????

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    SnBG Says:
    August 15th, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Foles threw an int in the red zone,,very, very bad.
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    Ver ver very baaaad.!

  • SnBG

    Mingo has rib injury, out of the game.

  • Just Fire Baby

    There is only 10 really good QB’s and about 10 above average ones.

    Finding competition for a QB in that top 20 is pretty hard to do.

  • SnBG

    If Vick doesn’t slide he may not make it to the opener. I hate it when he doesn’t slide.

  • Raiders for life

    SnBG Says:
    August 15th, 2013 at 5:37 pm
    Flynn dropped a bomb on Detroit last year twice.

    ###############

    During his tenure at Seattle? Just wondering cause I’d like to Youtube that.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 15th, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    flynn throws jump balls…
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    No he doesn’t.

  • SnBG

    Isn’t Big Ben already hurt?

  • the famous dr robert

    Brandon Weeden–Wave of the Now!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Is that our old buddy “Missile” Mike missing tackles for Carolina?

    Yup it is #21.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    Foles is a better passer but the dog killer puts butts in the seats.

  • Breaking_Black

    Matt Barkley is a beast.
    Future HOF born and bred even after he’s dead or whatever.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Matt Barkeley looking sharp, decisive, accurate.

    Pryor: not so much.

  • RaiderDebo

    SnBG Says:
    August 15th, 2013 at 6:08 pm
    If Vick doesn’t slide he may not make it to the opener. I hate it when he doesn’t slide.

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    If Vick slides short and they don’t score, he might be on the bench. Don’t blame the guy one bit for laying it on the line every play. My favorite thing about him. Why he may be the most respected player in the league. Also why, among other reasons, why Foles never had a chance.

  • SnBG

    If Vick slides short and they don’t score, he might be on the bench. Don’t blame the guy one bit for laying it on the line every play. My favorite thing about him. Why he may be the most respected player in the league. Also why, among other reasons, why Foles never had a chance.
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    OK, well Vick is no good sitting on the sideline with injuries.

  • Marks hair

    michell and huff are both out there whiffing

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Whether it’s preseason or the regular season, New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees toys with the Raiders secondary as if it were a 7-on-7 session, with receivers breaking into the clear and catching perfectly timed passes.

    In four games since 2008, two in the preseason and two in the regular season, Brees has completed 77.3 percent of his passes (75-for-97) for 907 yards, eight touchdowns and no interceptions — a stratospheric passer rating of 133.0.

  • SnBG

    KoolKell Says:
    August 15th, 2013 at 6:16 pm
    Whether it’s preseason or the regular season, New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees toys with the Raiders secondary as if it were a 7-on-7 session, with receivers breaking into the clear and catching perfectly timed passes.

    In four games since 2008, two in the preseason and two in the regular season, Brees has completed 77.3 percent of his passes (75-for-97) for 907 yards, eight touchdowns and no interceptions — a stratospheric passer rating of 133.0.
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    Thank you for that Kell, we appreciate you telling us how we get beat.

  • Priesttj12

    24 Says:
    August 15th, 2013 at 3:43 pm
    Throwing a deep ball vs being a successful QB…I think that’s the real question here. If you were a QB with a great arm but you didn’t win as a Raider…who cares?

    Who was the last great deep ball/strong arm QB that was actually successful…a winner?

    My guess would be Plunkett? It’s before my time so somebody has to speak up.
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    Are you taking about Raider QB or any? And the queation is actually an ignorant question. Just the Raiders haven’t means nada. Most talented QB’s actually can throw deep well enough. Soem can get by who can’t but they have to special in other areas. You don’t have to be able to throw deep very well to ve successful but it certainly helps if you can.

    Most truely great QB’s have no issues making all the throws and that’s what makes the difference between Pryor and Flynn. Flynn cannot and Pryor can…..period

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Looks like they are having problems with the site log in. Bob Marley was remarking about that earlier today.

  • SnBG

    Most truely great QB’s have no issues making all the throws and that’s what makes the difference between Pryor and Flynn. Flynn cannot and Pryor can…..period
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    We haven’t seen that out of Pryor yet.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    SnBG Says:
    August 15th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    Most truely great QB’s have no issues making all the throws and that’s what makes the difference between Pryor and Flynn. Flynn cannot and Pryor can…..period
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    We haven’t seen that out of Pryor yet.
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    We certainly haven’t seen Pryor make accurate throws. He can hit a target, but he can’t hit the target in stride.

  • shutdown

    SnBG Says:
    August 15th, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    Most truely great QB’s have no issues making all the throws and that’s what makes the difference between Pryor and Flynn. Flynn cannot and Pryor can…..period
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    It’s reached the highest level of absurdity in here. It’s one thing to put forward one’s reasons why one guy is a good, a better, or the best choice for a position over another, then hear out those who feel differently. That would make for a good blog.

    It’s another to throw insults around as if that makes one’s position tenable in the way a pre-adolescent throws around insults around because he thinks it makes him funny or tough while everyone else is laughing at his stupid behavior.

    Then, it’s another absurdity to issue forth declarative statements that contain a generally accepted truth (“most truly great QBs have no issues making all the throws”)coupled with an outright untruth (Flynn cannot and Pryor can…period”).

    One assumes you mean by “making all the throws” you mean making them with a high frequency of accuracy, all types of throws, in practice, in games. “Accurate”: you know, not behind the receiver, not so over his head the receiver gets creamed or the ball is likely to be intercepted, not lofted with so much air under it a defensive back has time to get there, not thrown only after the receiver makes his break and the QB thinks he’s open, not fluttering, and not done once in a while.

    Argue the point that Pryor should start and then support it, but don’t argue that he has the one quality “most truly great QBs have,” an ability to make “all the throws.” He has a long way to go before any one can make that claim.

  • Bigmike34

    snbg

    Flynn just threw a 50 Yard strike in Practice yesterday…..You Pryor people just don’t want to inform yourselves…Flynn can throw the long strike and the Mid and short range shots…he can make the back shoulder pass…the out and crossing patterns…and he can do it with MUCH better ACCURACY then Pryor’s 46% completion Ratio…

    How do you morons think that Flynn had a 480 YARD Passing game IN THE NFL…he has an 80 yard NFL PASS TO HIS CREDIT and 4 OVER 40) YEADS How many does Pryor Have OVER 40 YARDS…NONE..

    NO ONE IS SO BLIND AS HE WHO WILL NOT SEE…

  • Bigmike34

    To all you PRYOR people out there…BEFORE THE GAME STARTS TELL US….

    Do you expect Pryor to Put up better Numbers than Flynn today…Remember Flynn plays against the #1 DEFENSE and Pryor Will Play against the reserves…

    A non-answer means you are AFRAID..

  • Bigmike34

    Can you Pryor people even make a Good argument that he should be #2 instead of #3…

    would love to hear it.

  • Bigmike34

    GOLLY Priesttj and you rest of your PRYOR ILK

    Here I was… starting to believe you guys and Join the Pryor Team…But…

    Most of that team has crawled away in shame…

    I don’t want to be on a Team of Shame…

  • Bigmike34

    LETS MAKE THE COMPARISON EASY FOR YOU…THE Clear view of our QBs are now in

    Flynn Comp 12/16 (75%) …124 Yards…QB rating..117.7
    Pryer……. 1/5 (20%)……9 Yards……………39.6

    Then there is FRYER the LONG PASSER THE BIG ARM…1.8 yards per Passing Attempt………….Flynn…….7.8

    ALSO NOTE Pryor’s long completion was 9 yards…Flynn’s TD pass was twice as long as that.

    PRYER the Great runner…4 rushes for 15 yards 3.8 per rush…

    Flynn 1 rush for 4 yards…4 yards per Rush…

    THERE IS NO COMPARISON FLYNN IS A MUCH BETTER FAR MORE POLISHED QB THEN PRYOR….EVEN THE TV PEOPLE MADE THE COMMENT THAT WE SHOULD USE PRYOR SOMEWHERE ELSE HE IS SUCH A GOOD ATHLETE

  • Bigmike34

    PRYER WILL NEVER BE AN NFL QB……BUT

    THE TEAM CAN AND SHOULD START GIVING PRYOR REPS AT WIDE RECEIVER HE HAS ALL THE TANGABLES NECESSARY GOOD HANDS SIZE AND BIG TIME SPEED…..COULD BE A SLOT BACK AS WELL….IT IS A SHAME TO WASTE HIS NATURAL TALENT BY PLAYING HIM AT THE WRONG POSITION WHERE HIS ONLY FUTURE IS THE BENCH OR THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE.

  • Bigmike34

    From Dan Hanzus NFL reporter.

    Much to Flynn’s credit, he led the Raiders on an 11-play, 82-yard touchdown drive to close the second quarter, capped by a pretty 18-yard scoring strike to Denarius Moore. Flynn finished 12-of-16 passing for 124 yards and that score. Nice production, considering the circumstances.

    If Flynn can stay healthy, he’s a mortal lock to be the Raiders’ Week 1 starter. Terrelle Pryor didn’t inspire confidence in three second-half series, finishing with 9 yards passing and 15 yards rushing.