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Hayden eager to make Raiders debut; other practice notes

By Steve Corkran
Sunday, August 18th, 2013 at 3:29 pm in Oakland Raiders.

NAPA – Cornerback D.J. Hayden is a tad concerned about how he’s going to look when he makes his Raiders debut against the Chicago Bears.

That’s understandable, given Hayden hasn’t played in a game since he suffered a torn artery and almost died last November.

Yet, that’s not what Hayden is worried about. It’s the extra “flap” Raiders trainers and doctors are making him wear that has him a bit self-conscious in advance of Friday’s game at the Coliseum.

“It just makes me look fat a little bit … ,” Hayden said Sunday after completing his first practice in which he was permitted contact in more than nine months. “I want to look good out there. I can’t be looking chubby. It makes me look like I got like a little beer belly or something.”

Hayden can laugh about such things now. There was nothing but long faces when Hayden tore the inferior vena cava during a collision with a teammate at practice last November.

He underwent surgery to repair the kind of damage from an injury that proves fatal in 95 percent of the time, according to Walter Lowe, the University of Houston team physician.

The artery carries blood from the lower half of the body back to the heart.

In late May, Hayden underwent a second surgery, this time to remove scar tissue in his abdominal region.

Naturally, the Raiders were fearful of rushing Hayden into action too soon, even though Hayden declared himself ready to go weeks ago.

Hayden spent the first three weeks or so of training camp wearing a red, non-contact jersey as a precautionary measure. Team trainers and doctors finally cleared Hayden for contact Friday..

Raiders coach Dennis Allen said Hayden has some catching up to do, especially since Hayden missed some practice time with a hamstring injury and the team’s first two exhibition games.

To that end, Allen said he intends to take a look at Hayden, the Raiders first-round pick in the draft, against the Chicago Bears first-team offense, at least part of the time.

“It’s going to be good to get him in some game action this week, “ Allen said. “Physically, he looks just fine.”

Hayden said he’s fine with being thrown into the fire. He’s more concerned about not taking the experience for granted.

“I want the game to hurry up and come,” Hayden said, “but I want to enjoy that moment, playing in the game.”

Hayden’s mother intends to be at the game. Her son has some advice to deal with the nerves of seeing him play.

“You’ll be alright,” Hayden said he plans on telling her beforehand.

Fifteen years ago, defensive back Charles Woodson made his Raiders debut after being selected in the first round. Now, he’s the one eager to see what the new guy is capable of doing.

“I’m probably just like the coaches and the GM, you want to see him in a real game situation,” Woodson said. “I’m waiting for that.”

– Sunday marked the final practice of the season open to the media. From here on, media are permitted no more than 30 minutes’ access.

– Matt McGloin and Tyler Wilson didn’t receive any reps during practice. Presumptive starter Matt Flynn and backup Terrelle Pryor split the reps all day.

Allen said that’s by design because “we’re getting into regular-season mode.”

Also, the Raiders are preparing for their third exhibition game, when the starters tend to get their most extensive action.

– Flynn can’t blame the offensive line for his struggles at practice Sunday, as he could have for his uneven performance against the Saints.

During one three-play stretch, Flynn was intercepted by cornerback Mike Jenkins and linebacker Kaelin Burnett and then fumbled the snap. A short time later, Jenkins intercepted Flynn again.

On the bright side, Flynn ended practice with a well-thrown pass to wide receiver Rod Streater for a touchdown.

– Seventeen players missed all of practice today. Three others were limited, including running back Darren McFadden (shoulder). Allen said he doesn’t view McFadden’s injury as being serious.

– Tony Bergstrom and Lucas Nix played guard with the first-team offense Sunday. Incumbent starter Mike Brisiel remains unable to practice. Andre Gurode started at right guard against the Saints, but he worked with the second-team Sunday.

It’s all part of Allen’s plan to mix and match players for as long as he can in camp and exhibition games before he settles upon a starting five. Alex Barron was at left offensive tackle, just as he was against the Saints.

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  • 2romes

    Lot of what football is about is acquiring players out of one system and acclimating them into your system to increase their potential for success. I have only seen one head coach do that in a long time for the Oakland Raiders. That coach was Hue Jackson.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    inonewordraider Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 11:58 am
    We are probably going with Barron, Bergstom, Wiz, Nix, Barnes.

    Barnes has actually improved a little from last year.

    ___
    for now yes, reggie needs to start going hue and just working out every possible LT candidate

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Absolutely.
    Barron is a penalty machine.

    When he gets up in the morning his wife probably gives him penalty just so he can used to it.

  • morilla

    Murray still in the dog house?

  • RaiderRockstar

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/19/jaguars-release-mohamed-massaquoi-jason-spitz/

    Anybody think Reggie will go after former packer Jason Spitz ??

    he has experience at both guard spots. would come cheap. only 30 years old

  • morilla

    Maybe it was Murray who was smoking weed in the back of that car that Hansen reported about.

  • Myopinion

    if a team needs a guard, has a tackle with similar.co mn tract, why wouldnt that work?

  • theghostronin79

    ***

    by this I assume Ford, Walker, Brisiel & Chekwa will play vs Chicago Bears on Friday

    ================

    I’m betting Hayden too.

  • theghostronin79

    morilla Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    Maybe it was Murray who was smoking weed in the back of that car that Hansen reported about.

    ===========

    That occurred to me as well.

  • RaiderRockstar

    @Myo

    trade Mike Brisiel to Dallas in exchange for Darrion Weems!?!?

  • RaiderRockstar

    better yet …

    trade Jacoby Ford & Mike Brisiel to Dallas in exchange for Darrion Weems & George Selvie

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    morilla Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    Maybe it was Murray who was smoking weed in the back of that car that Hansen reported about.

    ===========

    That occurred to me as well.

    =====================================

    If that’s the case, then he’s a total flipping idiot.

  • the famous dr robert

    Why would anyone trade for ford or brisiel?

  • DutchRaider77

    1162.the famous dr robert Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    Why would anyone trade for ford or brisiel?

    ___________________________________________________

    Did you see the Baldwin for A. Jenkins trade (Chiefs/Niners)?

    Kinda somthing like that…a guy who doesn’t fit their scheme…

  • RaiderRockstar

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/19/nazr-mohammed-doesnt-hold-a-grudge-with-lebron-james-for-getting-pushed-down-by-mohammed/

    what a slimy turd. this guy is on his 3rd team in 3 years and averages less than 3 points per game.

    but he makes the paper for taking a cheap shot at the King! good of LeBron not to knock this douche from Ghana the eff out!!

    nobody will remember you, when you retire next year Nazr. I hope you get in a car crash tonight

  • Myopinion

    Weems sounds like a tuff guy, maybe not that smart though.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Why would anyone trade for ford or brisiel?

    ***

    @Dr Bob

    everybody trades scrubs 4 scrubs

    see Reggie trading Murphy & Campbell to the Panthers last offseason ??

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    the famous dr robert Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Why would anyone trade for ford or brisiel?

    ==================================

    Raiders fans always wildly overvalue our players and/or draft picks.

    The most ridiculous example I saw was back in 2007 when someone suggested we could trade our first pick in the draft to the Cardinals in exchange for the Cards’ pick (5th overall), their second-rounder, their first-round pick in 2008, and Matt Leinart (who was the Cards’ QB of the future at that point). He was very, very insistent that the Cards would jump on it in a second.

    Here’s the link. Look for a comment by “scorpio”:

    http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19561684&postID=3715642060389547916

  • theghostronin79

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:12 pm
    theghostronin79 Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    morilla Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    Maybe it was Murray who was smoking weed in the back of that car that Hansen reported about.

    ===========

    That occurred to me as well.

    =====================================

    If that’s the case, then he’s a total flipping idiot.

    ==========

    Supposedly he’s not injured, but yet, he isn’t practicing. Perhaps he’s just getting punished “IN HOUSE”. I don’t have a Frackin clue why he’s being excluded right now.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    the famous dr robert Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:13 pm

    Why would anyone trade for ford or brisiel?

    ==================================

    Raiders fans always wildly overvalue our players and/or draft picks.
    ================================================

    Let’s not forget how much these knuckleheads overvalue some coaches (See Jackson, Hubert)

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Why would anyone trade for ford or brisiel?

    ***

    @Dr Bob

    everybody trades scrubs 4 scrubs

    see Reggie trading Murphy & Campbell to the Panthers last offseason ??

    =========================================

    WHAT?!? How dare you call Beast Campbell a scrub? He’s BEAST CAMPBELL! He’s a future Hall of Famer for sure! Never mind that he couldn’t get on the field for Carolina last year! He’s BEAST CAMPBELL! Reggie will rue the day he ever traded him and stuff.

  • Myopinion

    Also I asked bcz,and he said if cut brisels deadmoney could be pushed to next year, vet something.but dont quote me

  • RaiderRockstar

    re: Latavius Murray

    Dennis Allen said something about him being “accountable” last week – whatever that means

  • RaiderRockstar

    @Duck

    yeah, Jhill & Chris in NY both loved them some “Beast” Campbell (lol)

  • theghostronin79

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    re: Latavius Murray

    Dennis Allen said something about him being “accountable” last week – whatever that means

    ============

    Breaking team rules possibly.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Raiders GM in April

    Q: What do you like about Tyler Wilson and do you have to basically erase last year with the team-wide turmoil at Arkansas?
    A: Yeah, with that being said, I totally understand the coaching change, the offense, all that. But you can still watch his style of play, the way he plays the game. And we like a lot of things about him. We like the way he can move around in the pocket, we like his toughness to hang in there and see the field, we think he has a lot of qualities that goes into being a good solid quarterback in the NFL.

    Q: You targeting either him or Barkley there?
    A: Well, what we did is we made sure we looked at the board and how it falls, that’s how we went. Now, who was where? I don’t want to get into that because I’d be telling you my board. I don’t want to do that.

    Tyler Wilson has a three-quarters delivery, are you fine with his mechanics?
    “Coach is going to have to work with mechanics. That’s how it is with a lot of these players. These guys coming in as rookies, they’ve been taught a certain way, they’ve been throwing all kinds of ways… regardless of quarterback position or any one of the positions, they’re gonna have to get coached up and he’s no exception.”

    Do you think Tyler Wilson can compete right away for job?
    “Well, you know, he’s a rookie. I want him to learn the playbook first. Get out here and make sure he gets behind the center and not behind the guard. You know, you want these guys to come in and just show the coaches and their teammates, No. 1, that they belong. Then all the other stuff will come.”

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Anybody that says “passing game will be fine” with phlegm as the trigger man is a world class dumb azz.

    Have you been paying attention?

    In gb he plugged in as a cog in a well oiled machine

    In Seattle where he didn’t know the team or system and had fewer weapo a be bombed in horrifying fashion

    In oalaknd he is ready beginning to choke and cough up the job.

    If you like 3 yard dump offs while wrs are running wide open down field then yes you could say its “fine”

    Allen and phlegm deserve one another and the fans that love them so dearly

  • RaiderRockstar

    Q: How did you address your pass-rush need the past couple days?
    A: “Well, we felt like we got a couple of guys that can rush the passer. We think the third-round pick, Sio, can come off the edge a bit. We think David Bass can come off the edge some. We like some of the things that Stacy can do in the middle. So, sometimes you look into the certain draft classes and you try to identify a gamut of pass-rushers or whatever needs you may have, whether it’s quarterback, running back, it doesn’t matter. If it’s not there, we’re not going to make up guys. We’re not going to push guys up the board because we think we need a defensive lineman, a defensive end. We’re not going to do that. If it’s not there, we’ll find it in another way.”

  • bcz24

    Myopinion Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    Also I asked bcz,and he said if cut brisels deadmoney could be pushed to next year, vet something.but dont quote me
    ***********
    Correct. Brisiel is a vested veteran, if we cut him, his cap number shouldn’t change this season, but there will be dead money next year.

    I was all for this move on Thursday… then I saw Gurode, and he is all washed up. So Brisiel, as bad has he has been, actually looks like our best option.

    Our Oline is pretty much a train wreck.

  • CJ Legend 34

    I think the Raiders are the most hurt team in football. We already playing with league scraps and these guys just can’t stay healthy. Maybe we should be hoping the NFL finally makes it a flag football league. We may have a chance. SMH!

  • CJ Legend 34

    1177.RaiderRockstar Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:31 pm
    Q: How did you address your pass-rush need the past couple days?
    A: “Well, we felt like we got a couple of guys that can rush the passer. We think the third-round pick, Sio, can come off the edge a bit. We think David Bass can come off the edge some. We like some of the things that Stacy can do in the middle. So, sometimes you look into the certain draft classes and you try to identify a gamut of pass-rushers or whatever needs you may have, whether it’s quarterback, running back, it doesn’t matter. If it’s not there, we’re not going to make up guys. We’re not going to push guys up the board because we think we need a defensive lineman, a defensive end. We’re not going to do that. If it’s not there, we’ll find it in another way.”

    ——————
    RR – I am more worried about our o-line than d-line and I know that does not say much, but at least we can gamble on some blitzs. But our o-line isproblem is ugly. If we go back to the 2006 Andrew Walter days I am done!!!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    by Scott Ostler
    August 19, 2013
    The Raiders, unlike the Giants, don’t have a lunatic fringe.

    The Raiders have a sanity fringe. That prudent group would like head coach Dennis Allen to start Matt Flynn at quarterback and stay with him. It’s the safe, traditional course of action. Flynn has conventional skills, potentially is a sound game-manager. And you want stability, right?
    Wrong, says the lunatic core. Those folks want Terrelle Pryor. They want two things Raiders fans haven’t had much of in recent years: hope and excitement.
    Friday in New Orleans, when Flynn took five sacks early, looking shaky behind a leaky offensive line, Raiders fans were blowing up Twitter, clamoring for Pryor. In came Pryor, who went 1-for-5 passing, for 9 yards.
    Suddenly, from those tweeting Raiders fans: crickets.
    It’s going to be a roller-coaster ride in Raiderland, folks. Flynn will start, but Allen said of Pryor, “He will play.” That’s Allen being either bold and creative, or indecisive and desperate. Or merely pragmatic. Or all five of those things.
    I asked Allen on Sunday if he might go with a nontraditional quarterback setup, bringing Pryor off the bench in situational or relief roles.
    “I think we’ve said all along we want to be able to have a package of plays Terrelle is real comfortable in,” Allen said. “In answer to your question, I don’t know what’s traditional or nontraditional. We’re going to put the guys out there we think give us the best chance to have success.”

    What’s traditional is for the starting quarterback to play until all hope is lost. The Raiders probably won’t have that luxury. So, Mr. Pryor: Stay loose and keep your helmet handy.
    In Sunday’s midday scrimmage, Pryor was a star. Sharing snaps with Flynn, Pryor connected long and short. He took command.
    “I was throwing lasers today, on point,” Pryor said after practice. “That’s how I expect to be from here on out. I want to be great. It’s not about thinking if I’m going to get playing time or not, it’s about me mastering my craft and being a leader on the field.”
    This is a whole new game for Pryor. As a rookie, he had no place, zero role or identity. He suited up for one game. Last year he was inactive the first 11 games, played in three, finally starting the last day of the season because (some insiders guess) owner Mark Davis, a non-meddler, told Allen he wanted to see what Pryor could do.

    Pryor somehow escaped the offseason purge of the late Al Davis’ favored players. Pryor worked hard to remake his throwing mechanics and has emerged – in the eyes of Raider Nation’s lunatic core – as a silver-and-black version of Colin Kaepernick.
    Pryor won’t go that far. He quickly admits he’s not in Kaepernick’s league, but is willing to work to close the gap. Pryor agreed that Kaepernick’s breakthrough last season helped Pryor, showing the football world what a big, strong, fast, running quarterback could do for a team.

    Conveniently, the two are connected.
    “He’s actually one of my good friends,” Pryor said. “We text back and forth every once in a while. We’re connected with the same lady, Novice Johnson.”
    The Miami-based Johnson apparently is something of a cheerleady life coach. She has been working with Pryor for about five years, and more recently with Kaepernick.
    “She’s taking care of me in terms of spirituality, someone to lean on,” Pryor said.
    He said he and Kaepernick “ended up connecting through her. … She just brings hope, she’s a hopeful person. … She just makes sure we (Pryor and Kaepernick) stay together and lean on each other.”
    Pryor is more outgoing (to the media) than Kaepernick, but they have a lot in common. Both came into the NFL as long-shot projects, physically gifted but with suspect QB tools.
    Both work hard. Kaepernick is a morning person, sweating on the field well before sunrise, while Pryor says he does his extra work at night. He said he hit the Raiders’ practice field by himself Saturday night from 9:30 to about 10:45, alternating weight-lifting sets with blocks of drop-back-and-set-up drills. He said he will practice about 200 drop-backs in a typical session.
    In the offseason, Pryor consulted with Southern California throwing guru Tom House, and now is working hard to lock in his new mechanics.
    Pryor showed enough improvement as a passer early in training camp to cause general manager Reggie McKenzie to back off courting Vince Young as a backup to Flynn. (Young eventually signed with the Packers.)
    Pryor seems to have played himself into the backup role. The Raiders are designing packages for Pryor – one-step drops and read options out of the pistol, a la Kaep.

    From early indications – a porous offensive line, a non-impressive Darren McFadden – it’s going to be hard for Flynn to dazzle, so there’s sure to be windows of opportunity for Pryor.
    It should get interesting, maybe even confusing. This does not bode well for the Raiders’ sanity fringe.
    Scott Ostler is a columnist for the San Francisco

    Chronicle. E-mail: sostler@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @scottostler

  • bcz24

    When you can’t protect the Legend long enough to get out of the pocket against the Saints back ups you have a real problem.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit
  • Dakota

    I don’t know…..maybe Reggie and DA and Tarver are all on board with my “Going Down for the Clown” in 2013 game plan and that is why DA doesn’t prepare the team and Tarver sends blitzes that only have the chance to sack QBs that stop for a nap while dropping back to pass? And that is why Reggie signs all these guys who can never play?

    Maybe one we get our top pick in 2014 those guys will all suddenly turn it on?

  • raiderkoolaid

    I think Pryor would give the best chance of winning games right now with the offensive line being what it is. They have to catch him before they could sack him, and he isn’t very easy to catch.

  • CJ Legend 34

    I feel an 2006 Andrew Walter, Aaron Brooks season coming on………Our o-line sickens me.

    If you all recall the games where Walter got put in more pretzel twists then any man should have to experience in one life time. I think he was sacked like 5 times a game or so….rushed maybe 25 plus….We’re looking like that type of year right now.

    Reece get ready to stay home and block all day.

  • Plunketthead

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 1h
    DT Vance Walker also back today

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 1h
    Criner, Sims, Burnett, Watson and Clayton working with trainer on side and moving pretty good

  • Plunketthead

    Tafur ‏@VicTafur 12m
    “@RNSCOM: @WoodyisaGoody Holmes count against the 53 if hes suspended first 4 games?” >> no, suspension actually helps him

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 12m
    “@_rhyslucas: Jenkins to the P/S?” >> and/or Vernon

  • Myopinion

    Bcz,
    Thx,
    I like nix, rg
    But would love brisel to be who we thought he would.
    8oline?
    I think we need parsons,or gurode backup c?
    Watson,wiz,bergs,nix,barnes,barron,fa.cut.
    Brisel makes nine, who do u cut?

  • bcz24

    The scary part is, our Oline looked nothing like that against Dallas. I know losing Hulk is a big deal, but you can’t put ALL of that pressure on Barron.

  • Dakota

    https://twitter.com/novicejohnson

    Novice Johnson baby!

  • The_Judge37

    bcz24 Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:46 pm
    The scary part is, our Oline looked nothing like that against Dallas. I know losing Hulk is a big deal, but you can’t put ALL of that pressure on Barron.
    ——

    Well they only played two series against Dallas, couldn’t open any run lanes and gave up a QB killing sack. But Hulk was holding his own vs Ware, so it’s a shame.

  • the famous dr robert

    Re: trading ford, brisiel, or anyone else.

    Trades happen in the nfl when teams swap disappointing young players who might still have upside (Baldwin/Jenkins), or for a vet depth fit.

    Ford is not a high upside guy. He’s a little return man who’s always injured and was only a mid round pick four years ago.

    If he was cut today, he might not even find another team.

    No upside. No vet fit.

    Brisiel could be traded as a vet fit but his contract makes that unlikely, since most teams are aware of his struggles/injuries.

    Our ONLY tradable parts:
    Bergstrom
    DMc

  • The_Judge37

    Were there any updates on Ausberry or Porter? What’s their time table look like? I’m more concerned with Ausberry.

  • theghostronin79

    I can relate

    ==================

    Stefan:

    Over the years I have punched holes in walls, threatened fraternity houses with metal pipes, backhanded fellow college students and berated girlfriends as a direct result of my football team’s on the field performance. Obviously, I am a Raiders fan.

    Dennis Allen makes Art Shell look engaged and then there’s the money quote from the official Raiders camp trailer on Raiders.com: “We’re trying to compete now.” -Reggie McKenzie. No sh*t Reggie, no fu*kin sh*t.

  • Plunketthead

    Mules – seanerds starting on NFL if anyone wants to cheer against the mules
    and root for TOM CABLE

  • CPT DAN

    espn just reported Barron has no heart for football WTH?

  • the famous dr robert

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 19th, 2013 at 12:39 pm
    http://www.sfchronicle.com/raiders/ostler/article/Pryor-has-Raider-crazies-in-his-corner-4742571.php?t=dcf1d4053247b02379

    pretty good article by scott osler
    **********
    Lol. Ur aware that he calls u and the Pryor Brigade crazy lunatics right?

  • RaiderRockstar

    Were there any updates on Ausberry or Porter? What’s their time table look like? I’m more concerned with Ausberry.

    ***

    @Judge

    Aus is already back. Porter is due back next week. listed “day 2 day”

  • the famous dr robert

    If I’m Reggie, I’m trying really hard to trade DMc for an OT.