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Raiders DC Jason Tarver breaks it down

Highlights from defensive coordinator Jason Tarver’ media session Tuesday:

On dealing with communication issues with so many starters out: On the back end, there’s more communication from linebackers to the (defensive backs) then there is to D-line. But what you want to establish is you want with the D-line, and we did some extra drills today and we’ll continue to do, is your fits, especially in the run game. You want to know when a guy gets singled how he’s going to fit that so you can fit off of him. So we do want to get Nick and Kevin and our starting linebackers behind our starting interior tackles

On Pat Sims getting up to speed with a limited amount of time left: Pat is a smart football player. I don’t think mentally he’s too far away from knowing his assignments. It’s more of a just getting reps . . . It’s about practice time. I’m not in control of all that other stuff. I’ll play him as many reps as I can based on the plan built by our trainers, our coach and our general manager.

How much Charles Woodson has left as a player: His burst surprises me every day. He’s an amazing athlete. He’s got a great feel for when the quarterback is going to release the ball and that’s still there. He’s practice all the way through camp and is still explosive out of his stance.

On how far Sio Moore has come: Sio was better in the second game than he was in the first game: Sio’s great thing is his position flexibility. Linebackers now need to be able to rush, drop, move, shed blocks, set edges, because of the spread offenses and faster offenses. The more you can do, the better it is. Sio has show those things in camp, in college and through the first two preseason game.

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  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I’m good ODB. I miss our Prez. Where the F is he? It’s impeachment time.

  • JLofty

    I see progress. Team looks better coached. More disciplined. The NO game was a bit of a regression but not as bad watching it a second time as the first.
    We are getting deeper got some youth coming up.
    Just because bspn doesn’t care to watch as close as they do the pats…
    We will still struggle against the elite teams I suspect. We are not there yet. But I wojldnt be surprised to see us compete in all and win some games against the mediocre teams.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “I see progress”

    Pass the kool aid

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    There is a correlation between good QB play and playoff appearances.
    Big Ben didnt make the POs. his QB rating was 97.
    Romo didnt make the POs, and his QB rating was 90.5.
    Lucks QB rating was 76.5, and he made the POs.
    Flacco won the SB and QB rating was 87.
    Like I said before Mr. “I have a 135 IQ”, QB ratings are an overrated stat.

  • R8ER MIKE

    Raider O Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:27 am
    I’m good ODB. I miss our Prez. Where the F is he? It’s impeachment time.

    ************************
    wonder if he is lost in the forest & trying to smoke his way out ??

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Dalton QB rating was 87.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Btw, Flynn QB rating is bacon on a small sample size.

    I don’t expect you to understand all this from the 1st time you read it, so take your time.
    It took you a few tries to get contradiction last night.
    Still LOL

  • raiderlization

    Flynn has started how many games? 2? Pryor 1? we will see the unknown soon enough and all of your dreams will be answered! Go Raiders!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    ODB,

    I hope all is well with our prez. I think he got tired of all the BS here.

  • Charlie

    Good Morning O

    Interesting news conference with Tarver.

    As I have said many times during some debates on this blog,stats like total yardage etc. can be very misleading when claiming a unit is “good”. Tarver pointed out a great example.

    The Ravens last year did not have a good total yardage defensive performance (21st- behind the Raiders) yet ranked second in the league in red zone defense (TD only- Oakland was 20th)).

    Point being that many stats can be very misleading when evaluating an overall unit’s performance and claiming a team is good or bad in that area.

    Another example is sacks allowed. Olson acknowledged that the Raiders are going to make scheme adjustments to try to compensate for the loss of Veldheer.
    Point being that on field personnel will have an impact on what an OC/DC try to do. The stat like sacks allowed MAY be very misleading if all we try is three step drops and bubble screens to keep our QB alive.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Based* not bacon.

  • theghostronin79

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:20 am
    “Why must you build “slowly”? WTH does that mean?”

    Yeah when other NFL teams are turning it around in 1 or 2 years these ass hats keep telling us to be patient build slowly blah blah

    ==============

    Just a shot in the dark but…..Teams that were a cesspool, Detroit, Cleveland, etc… Have been Nailing their 1st round picks, and getting good guys in the first 3 rounds. Contributors.

    Getting dudes like Megatron, Stafford, Suh, Fairley, and such… Just made it seem like they became relevant over night. They were building slowly too….

    Our 1st rounders have been Fu*kin Flops. So, we ain’t even been building, just spinning tires and even losing ground.

    Before Hayden, Wiz II was our highest pick, and he looks like a fixture. Gotta wait and see about DJ, but we need more fixtures.

  • the famous dr robert

    Playoff qbs 2012:

    Rodgers 108.0
    P.Manning 105.8
    Smith/Kaepernick 104.0/98.3
    Griffin 102.4
    Wilson 100.0
    Ryan 99.1
    Brady 98.7
    Schaub 90.7
    Flacco 87.7
    Dalton 87.5
    Ponder 81.2
    Luck 76.5

    90+ rated qbs not in playoffs:
    Roethlisberger 97.0
    Brees 96.3
    Romo 90.5

    What do we see?

    8/12 playoff qbs were 90+
    Two more were over 87.
    Ponder had a 2k RB
    Luck was “Lucky” with an inspired “Chuck Strong” team.

    Also only 3 90+ qbs didn’t make the playoffs. Big Ben and Brees are regularly in the playoffs and Romo, barely over 90, is usually as well.

    So, 8/11 90+ qbs made it.

    This shows that having a 90+ rated qb is very likely to get u into the playoffs.

    Flynn has a 92 rating coming to us.

    He has been well over 90 in both games.

    Also, note that Pryor is at 72 and has been under 50 for both games.

    Almost impossible to make the playoffs that way.

    Numbers don’t lie and ignoring them and saying u dint care, u just want wins, means ur not understanding what predictors to look at.

    My point is: we should be excited about Flynn and what he could mean to this team.

    And probably should realize that Pryor, at this point, is more flash than substance.

  • R8ER MIKE

    JLofty Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:29 am
    I see progress. Team looks better coached. More disciplined. The NO game was a bit of a regression but not as bad watching it a second time as the first.

    ************************************************
    agree… the second time i watched it i didnt have to burn as many trees or drink as many beers !! and i wasnt scaring the he11 out of the dogs screaming at the t.v. !!

  • eastoaklandraider

    Until we get 5 great to good olinemen it everything else won matter, we have 2, three more to go hopefully Watson will be #3.

  • the famous dr robert

    Whoknows Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:14 am
    I’d would really like to what Pryor?DMac could look like.
    ********
    Two bad players?

  • Whoknows

    Raider O Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:42 am
    Based* not bacon.
    *****************
    same thing.

  • raiderlization

    better than Flynn /DMAC! LMAO!

  • R8ER MIKE

    Raider O Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:41 am
    ODB,

    I hope all is well with our prez. I think he got tired of all the BS here.

    *****************************
    i believe that is a true statement sir

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Good morning Charlie.
    I agree 100%. Some stats are overrated and some are misleading. You have to know how to use them.
    You have to trust your eyes.
    Our OL is a mess, and our pass rush is weak. We can have great talent at many skill positions, but it will not help.
    We need to build the lines. lol

  • the famous dr robert

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:22 am
    Saying you have a high IQ on a blog is like saying….I have a 10″ dick or I know karate you better not try to fight me.

    Its desperately funny and it made me laugh!

    Thanks guys!
    *********
    Beeech says these things.

  • 0ak r8rs

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:42 am
    Playoff qbs 2012:

    Rodgers 108.0
    P.Manning 105.8
    Smith/Kaepernick 104.0/98.3
    Griffin 102.4
    Wilson 100.0
    Ryan 99.1
    Brady 98.7
    Schaub 90.7
    Flacco 87.7
    Dalton 87.5
    Ponder 81.2
    Luck 76.5

    90+ rated qbs not in playoffs:
    Roethlisberger 97.0
    Brees 96.3
    Romo 90.5

    What do we see?

    8/12 playoff qbs were 90+
    Two more were over 87.
    Ponder had a 2k RB
    Luck was “Lucky” with an inspired “Chuck Strong” team.

    Also only 3 90+ qbs didn’t make the playoffs. Big Ben and Brees are regularly in the playoffs and Romo, barely over 90, is usually as well.

    So, 8/11 90+ qbs made it.

    This shows that having a 90+ rated qb is very likely to get u into the playoffs.

    Flynn has a 92 rating coming to us.

    He has been well over 90 in both games.

    Also, note that Pryor is at 72 and has been under 50 for both games.

    Almost impossible to make the playoffs that way.

    Numbers don’t lie and ignoring them and saying u dint care, u just want wins, means ur not understanding what predictors to look at.

    My point is: we should be excited about Flynn and what he could mean to this team.

    And probably should realize that Pryor, at this point, is more flash than substance.

    @@@@@@@@

    Thanks for taking the time to spell it out for slow O, Doc.

    If a trend is 80% to 90% true, isn’t that enough for some people? There r very few absolutes in this world. And virtually every stat can be picked apart to suit your agenda. But this one seem pretty substantial.

    And btw, because I said its a correlation, not an absolute, I’m not saying Flynn will get us to the playoffs JUST by maintaining a QBR of 90+. But if he can, we have a way better shot of winning than not winning. It’s a plainly obvious correlation between wins and QBR.

  • eastoaklandraider

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:42 am
    Playoff qbs 2012:

    Rodgers 108.0
    P.Manning 105.8
    Smith/Kaepernick 104.0/98.3
    Griffin 102.4
    Wilson 100.0
    Ryan 99.1
    Brady 98.7
    Schaub 90.7
    Flacco 87.7
    Dalton 87.5
    Ponder 81.2
    Luck 76.5

    90+ rated qbs not in playoffs:
    Roethlisberger 97.0
    Brees 96.3
    Romo 90.5

    What do we see?

    8/12 playoff qbs were 90+
    Two more were over 87.
    Ponder had a 2k RB
    Luck was “Lucky” with an inspired “Chuck Strong” team.

    Also only 3 90+ qbs didn’t make the playoffs. Big Ben and Brees are regularly in the playoffs and Romo, barely over 90, is usually as well.

    So, 8/11 90+ qbs made it.

    This shows that having a 90+ rated qb is very likely to get u into the playoffs.

    Flynn has a 92 rating coming to us.

    He has been well over 90 in both games.

    Also, note that Pryor is at 72 and has been under 50 for both games.

    Almost impossible to make the playoffs that way.

    Numbers don’t lie and ignoring them and saying u dint care, u just want wins, means ur not understanding what predictors to look at.

    My point is: we should be excited about Flynn and what he could mean to this team.

    And probably should realize that Pryor, at this point, is more flash than substance.
    ———–

    How many of passes has Pryor thrown this pre season? 15, and how many of those passes were throw aways? Stats never tell the whole story, sooner you learn that the better.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Whoknows Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:45 am
    Raider O Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:42 am
    Based* not bacon.
    *****************
    same thing.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Lol
    You hungry too?

  • 0ak r8rs

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:22 am
    Saying you have a high IQ on a blog is like saying….I have a 10″ dick or I know karate you better not try to fight me.

    Its desperately funny and it made me laugh!

    Thanks guys!

    @@@@@@

    I realize that. I was just pissed because every time I have a debate w slow O, which is alot because I agree w virtually nothing he says, he insults my intelligence. Got under my skin, especially at 2 in the morning. Here I am, thinking we r having intelligent discourse, and called me stupid.

    And I do have a 135 IQ. But only a 6 inch dlck. It is what it is.

  • the famous dr robert

    If u honestly look at my above post, and still don’t see the importance of a high rated qb, well…..I guess we just aren’t going to be in the same plane, football-wise.

    I have seen lots if people in my time that want to ignore stats or predictors.

    These people usually “go with their gut”, which is like a gambler hitting on 18.

    Understanding what numbers tell u and playing the odds to gain am edge is what smart people do.

    It’s the definition of moneyball and why rich people are rich.

    Don’t try to get rich hitting the lottery. That’s what the dumb masses do. Sure some of them hit but they usually don’t.

    People like this vote for people they find attractive or a guy “they’d like to have a beer with” instead of a nerd who could change things.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Thanks for taking the time to spell it out for slow O, Doc.

    If a trend is 80% to 90% true, isn’t that enough for some people? There r very few absolutes in this world. And virtually every stat can be picked apart to suit your agenda. But this one seem pretty substantial.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    8/12 is 66+%. 8/11 is 72+%.
    Mr. “I have a 135 IQ” is not good at math?
    Lol

  • R8ER MIKE

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:22 am
    Saying you have a high IQ on a blog is like saying….I have a 10″ dick or I know karate you better not try to fight me.

    **************************
    lmao !! had a guy tell my buddy that he knew karate and was going to kick his azz.. my buddy told him he knows crazy and was about to kill him !! 15 seconds later my buddy is on top of this karate guy bouncing his head on the street !!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Btw, I didn’t say you are stupid. I said you are not a bright guy.
    Lol

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “And I do have a 135 IQ. But only a 6 inch dlck. It is what it is.”

    LMFAO an honest man!

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “lmao !! had a guy tell my buddy that he knew karate and was going to kick his azz.. my buddy told him he knows crazy and was about to kill him !! 15 seconds later my buddy is on top of this karate guy bouncing his head on the street !!”

    Its so easy to talk a good game but once reality sets in LOL

  • theghostronin79

    My point is: we should be excited about Flynn and what he could mean to this team.

    And probably should realize that Pryor, at this point, is more flash than substance.

    ==============

    I think that just illustrates a difference in personality. I may be wrong but, it seems like you’re a numbers guy. Play the odds? Follow logic and probabilities?

    I’m the opposite. When I’m at the Black Jack table. I feel it. I get a feeling, and lay more money down. I win frequently off my “Hunches”.

    Same with UFC and Boxing. It’s all about “Match-ups”. The Eye test is a gamblers biggest tool.
    I almost always say the hell with the odds and go straight on gut feelings.

    I don’t think that makes me any dumber as a fan, just different. I consider the past, and contemplate the future, but FEEL the Now.

    And right this moment…I’m not “Feeling” that Flynn is our BEST chance. He may be a better QB than TP. One things got nothing to do with the other.

    That probably didn’t make a sh*t bit of sense, but oh well.

  • Bigmike34

    Oakr8rs

    Take the blinders off…actually watch Pryor and Flynn play …There is a difference in Flynn’s play the pin point passes …the way he stays in the pocket…ETC

    You ask why Flynn over Pryor…and …State QB ratings make little difference…

    If you look at Flynns starts in actual games both of them….and Pryors start in his one game….there is no comparison who is better…

    In Flynns first start against N.E. his QB rating was 100.2..24/37 64.8% completion ration..251 yrds ..3 TDs

    Pryors Rating in his first start against SD last year was 70.8..13/28 46.4% completion ratio 150 yrds 2TDs
    ———————————————-
    LETS MAKE THE COMPARESON BETWEEN PRYOR AND FLYNN EASY FOR YOU…in the last Raider game…His numbers remain good….Pryors remain Bad….THAT IS HOW YOU DECIDE THE STARTER….FOR A COACH IT IS VERY EASY…
    ————————————————————————–
    Flynn Comp 12/16 (75%) …124 Yards…QB rating..117.7
    Fryer……. 1/5 (20%)……9 Yards……………39.6
    ========================================
    Then there is FRYER the LONG PASSER THE BIG ARM…1.8 yards per Passing Attempt………….Flynn…….7.8

    ALSO NOTE Pryor’s long completion was 9 yards…Flynn’s TD pass was twice as long as that….He also had a 24 yarder
    =============================================
    PRYER the Great runner…4 rushes for 15 yards 3.8 per rush…

    Flynn 1 rush for 4 yards…4 yards per Rush…

  • oakfasho

    Offense sucks,Defense sucks,S.T. sucks.Coaching staff sucks,GM sucks. 2-14. Get it?

  • the famous dr robert

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:48 am

    How many of passes has Pryor thrown this pre season? 15, and how many of those passes were throw aways? Stats never tell the whole story, sooner you learn that the better.
    *********
    Pryor also had week 17.

    He is 15-37 (41%) in his last three games.

    He had a good game last preseason. But since then, he’s gotten worse with every game.

    He’s trending downward hard.

    Sorry but numbers almost ALWAYS tell the story.

    There are exceptions but these prove the rule.

    That means that the exceptions are rare and show just how accurate the numbers are as predictors.

    Qb rating isn’t magic. It simply displays numerically what actually happened.

    No flash. All substance.

    And it predicts future success or failure.

    In baseball, there’s an adage that “players play to their averages”.

    Every year, some .260 hitter will hit .400 in the first couple weeks.

    Everyone gets excited. U know what he end up hitting at years end? .260.

    Same way with a .300 hitter who starts out hitting .190.

    Everyone worries. “What’s wrong with him?”

    But he ends up hitting .300 for the year.

    Pryor and Flynn don’t have long careers. But we can’t wait til they’re ten year vets.

    We have to predict their level of play with what we have.

    Pryor is trending down.

    Flynn has been steadily over 90.

    U can rub ur magic money stone and hope for the best with Pryor.

    Or get with the smart money and go with Flynn.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Whoknows Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:14 am
    I’d would really like to what Pryor?DMac could look like.
    ——–

    They would look something like how Kap/Gore,Rwilson/Lynch,Cam/Williams,RGIII/Morris. Their mobility opens it up for the RB.

  • oakfasho

    Pryor will be starting at some point this season,probably soon.

  • the famous dr robert

    Oakfasho Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:06 am
    Pryor will be starting at some point this season,probably soon.
    ************
    Ok guys. Love me or hate me, I spelled it out intelligently and supported it with evidence and history.

    Or u can go with this guy.

    Smart money vs. dead money.

    U decide which is which.

  • eastoaklandraider

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:02 am
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:48 am

    How many of passes has Pryor thrown this pre season? 15, and how many of those passes were throw aways? Stats never tell the whole story, sooner you learn that the better.
    *********
    Pryor also had week 17.

    He is 15-37 (41%) in his last three games.

    He had a good game last preseason. But since then, he’s gotten worse with every game.

    He’s trending downward hard.

    Sorry but numbers almost ALWAYS tell the story.
    ————-

    Like the year we #1 in pass D but dead last in run D. The stats itself would suggest we were a dominant pass D team, but the truth was teams didnt have to pass against us cuz they ran it down our throats.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Luck had 5 games with below 50% cmp, he threw 23 TDs and 18 INTs, and his QB ratting was 76.5. Luck is a few months younger than TP.
    I’m not comparing the 2 QBs. Just posting the FACTs.
    Judging TP based on 37 attempts is ridiculous. Like saying Flynn is a great QB because he QB rating is 90+ based on 2-3 regular season games and 2 preseason games.
    I guess you people don’t know the effects of the sample size. There is a huge margin of error with small sample size..

  • eastoaklandraider

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:08 am
    Oakfasho Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:06 am
    Pryor will be starting at some point this season,probably soon.
    ************
    Ok guys. Love me or hate me, I spelled it out intelligently and supported it with evidence and history.

    Or u can go with this guy.

    Smart money vs. dead money.

    U decide which is which.
    ———

    What did Seattle choose?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:08 am
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:02 am
    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 9:48 am

    How many of passes has Pryor thrown this pre season? 15, and how many of those passes were throw aways? Stats never tell the whole story, sooner you learn that the better.
    *********
    Pryor also had week 17.

    He is 15-37 (41%) in his last three games.

    He had a good game last preseason. But since then, he’s gotten worse with every game.

    He’s trending downward hard.

    Sorry but numbers almost ALWAYS tell the story.
    ————-

    Like the year we #1 in pass D but dead last in run D. The stats itself would suggest we were a dominant pass D team, but the truth was teams didnt have to pass against us cuz they ran it down our throats.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Exactly.
    Lets not forget that he has 37 attempts. 37!! Small sample size.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Raider O Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:09 am
    Luck had 5 games with below 50% cmp, he threw 23 TDs and 18 INTs, and his QB ratting was 76.5. Luck is a few months younger than TP.
    I’m not comparing the 2 QBs. Just posting the FACTs.
    Judging TP based on 37 attempts is ridiculous. Like saying Flynn is a great QB because he QB rating is 90+ based on 2-3 regular season games and 2 preseason games.
    I guess you people don’t know the effects of the sample size. There is a huge margin of error with small sample size..
    ————-

    Exactly.

  • the famous dr robert

    Ronin—hey it’s ur money. And it’s more exciting “letting it roll!” And hitting.

    But there are lots of losers yelling loud one minute in the casino and walking out dejected the next.

    Smart, steady, composed. Those are the guys who win. Consistently.

    Not as instantly exciting but they’re the ones buying homes off other people’s money.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Bigmike34 Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:01 am
    Oakr8rs

    Take the blinders off…actually watch Pryor and Flynn play …There is a difference in Flynn’s play the pin point passes …the way he stays in the pocket…ETC

    You ask why Flynn over Pryor…and …State QB ratings make little difference…

    If you look at Flynns starts in actual games both of them….and Pryors start in his one game….there is no comparison who is better…

    In Flynns first start against N.E. his QB rating was 100.2..24/37 64.8% completion ration..251 yrds ..3 TDs

    Pryors Rating in his first start against SD last year was 70.8..13/28 46.4% completion ratio 150 yrds 2TDs
    ———————————————-
    LETS MAKE THE COMPARESON BETWEEN PRYOR AND FLYNN EASY FOR YOU…in the last Raider game…His numbers remain good….Pryors remain Bad….THAT IS HOW YOU DECIDE THE STARTER….FOR A COACH IT IS VERY EASY…
    ————————————————————————–
    Flynn Comp 12/16 (75%) …124 Yards…QB rating..117.7
    Fryer……. 1/5 (20%)……9 Yards……………39.6
    ========================================
    Then there is FRYER the LONG PASSER THE BIG ARM…1.8 yards per Passing Attempt………….Flynn…….7.8

    ALSO NOTE Pryor’s long completion was 9 yards…Flynn’s TD pass was twice as long as that….He also had a 24 yarder
    =============================================
    PRYER the Great runner…4 rushes for 15 yards 3.8 per rush…

    Flynn 1 rush for 4 yards…4 yards per Rush…

    @@@@@@

    I realize that. I figured I would just use down numbers regarding QBR vs winning. God forbid i simply say Flynn is the better choice to start right now over Pryor. Pointless to even try unless I want an even longer and more ridiculous debate.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    How we doing fellas? Read Olson’s Q&A, its safe to assume to coaching staff envisions Pryor’s role as a toy more than bread & butter of the offense. Olson’s comments on Denarius are sad.

    I think Tarver is way over his head, can’t see the forest for the trees, needs some more years in the league to get a view of the whole picture. D will suck this year once again, more because of scheme than personnel.

  • the famous dr robert

    Eastoaklandraider Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:10 am
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:08 am
    Oakfasho Says:
    August 21st, 2013 at 10:06 am
    Pryor will be starting at some point this season,probably soon.
    ************
    Ok guys. Love me or hate me, I spelled it out intelligently and supported it with evidence and history.

    Or u can go with this guy.

    Smart money vs. dead money.

    U decide which is which.
    ———

    What did Seattle choose?
    ********
    They chose an even higher rated qb. Not a lower rated one.

    Wilson was at 100.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “God forbid i simply say Flynn is the better choice to start right now over Pryor.”

    NO whatever you do DO NOT say that!!!

    WW3 will start in here.

  • shutdown

    “I like the Raiders to stay in Oak, but I’m not happy with the stadium, tarps, or the new stadium that seats 50K.
    It’s time to move IMHO.”

    A 50K stadium doesn’t let you compete, yet you can’t continue to have blackouts if you can’t fill the stadium either.

    Much as the two go together, I see no future in Oakland with the unimaginative people who run the city. If the Raider image were better (no thug connection) you might see corps willing to support a stadium, but that’s just not the case.

  • 0ak r8rs

    Exactly.
    Lets not forget that he has 37 attempts. 37!! Small sample size.

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    I’m not down on Pryors low QBR. Never mentioned it. Never my point. My point is that Flynn has a 90+ and if he maintains that throughout the year then it will almost certainly translate into wins. That’s all that I said. If you can’t agree w that? I couldn’t care less.