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Coach Allen in no hurry to name starting QB

The restless contingent that feels as if Terrelle Pryor seized the starting quarterback job from Matt Flynn is going to have to wait awhile longer to find out if Raiders coach Dennis Allen arrives at the same conclusion.

Allen said Saturday that his deadline for deciding between Pryor and Flynn is “sometime before the first game” Sept. 8, when the Raiders play the Indianapolis Colts in the regular-season opener.

In the interim, Allen said, Pryor will get more reps with the first-team offense in practice in the run up to the Raiders exhibition finale against the Seattle Seahawks on Thursday night as a result of how well he played against the Chicago Bears on Friday night.

Allen said he hasn’t decided yet who is going to start against the Seahawks and whether both will play. Flynn started Oakland’s first three exhibition games, with Pryor the first of the three other quarterbacks on the roster off the bench all three times.

Projected starters typically play little, if any, in the final exhibition game. However, it’s conceivable that Allen will play both Thursday and use their performance as a final piece of the evaluation process before settling upon a starter.

Watching the tape of the Raiders 34-26 loss to the Chicago Bears on Friday night didn’t do anything to change Allen’s initial assessment, he said.

“Terrelle came in and really added a spark to us offensively,” Allen said. “He moved us down the field; he was able to put some points on the board, so that was really good to see out of him.”

Pryor completed 7 or 9 passes for 93 yards and one touchdown. He also rushed for 37 yards, including 25 on a run that yielded another touchdown.

Flynn completed 3 of 6 throws for 19 yards and no touchdowns. Two of his passes were intercepted. He also fumbled a snap.

“I don’t think Matt played as well as he or we would have liked for him to play,” Allen said.

Most teams long ago decided their starting quarterback. Even so, it’s not unprecedented for teams to take this long to name a starter.

Naturally, Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie would prefer to have a clear-cut starter at the most important position. That’s simply not the case as a result of the way Flynn and Pryor played since training camp started, in particular against the Bears.

“We got to continue to get better, we got to keep moving forward,” Allen said, “and that’s a position that we’re still continuing to evaluate.”

– Rookie cornerback D.J. Hayden “was a little rusty” in his Raiders debut, Allen said. “You could tell it was his first time he played in a football game in awhile.”

Hayden played Friday night for the first time since he suffered a near-fatal injury last November during a practice for the University of Houston.

– Wide receiver Rod Streater won’t be back on the practice field until he passes the mandatory tests for players that suffer a concussion. He suffered his against the Bears.

– Allen said neither Chris Kluwe nor Marquette King “really punted the ball all that great” against the Bears. Kluwe has an edge over King as a holder on field-goal and extra-point attempts and “that will have something to do with the decision we make.”

– Rookie quarterback Tyler Wilson was slated to get some playing time against the Bears, Allen said. Things changed when fellow rookie Matt McGloin played well during his time, and Allen wanted to take a longer look at McGloin.

– Allen said he expects projected starting cornerback Tracy Porter (groin) back at practice Sunday, though in a limited capacity.

– Tight end David Ausberry (shoulder) is showing signs of improvement, and he has a chance to be back in time for the season-opening game, Allen said.

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  • DJ Johnny

    See, this is what’s great about being a Raider fan. What other team gets the excitement of scouring everybody’s cuts and getting fresh new faces on the team?

  • Marks hair

    tp has talent worth developing.. he should start whether he has early struggles or not. our record does not really matter this year cuz we’re not going to be anywhere near the playoffs..

  • willy91137

    VanHeathen30 Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 10:51 am
    Those 6 games last year would have sank any other teams HC, but Mark can’t afford o pay more people who aren’t in the building…got plenty of them already.
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    you people think that hiring a head coach is easy yes it is if you’re the Pittsburgh Steelers the New England Patriots the Oakland Raiders not so much

    if you could hire one he would probably want $3 million a year or more

    and a five years guaranteed we cannot afford that now so we got DA

    was reading a post up the line way and the guy bad mouthing somebody called AT I read the whole post… Who in the hell is TA that it dawned on me

    tits Alan

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Marks Hair Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:04 am
    tp has talent worth developing.. he should start whether he has early struggles or not. our record does not really matter this year cuz we’re not going to be anywhere near the playoffs..
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    The biggest mistake a team can make is to throw a young player out there, especially at the Q position before they are ready. Last year, Pryor would have been a disaster, and probably out of the league. This year, he definitely seems more ready, and has certainly earned his chance. Maybe not on the way he has played, but in the fact that Flynn is not competing for the job.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:03 am
    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:01 am
    SpudRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 9:49 am

    Other teams are starting to cut… Here comes are starters!!!!
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    hahaha. Good one.

    We laugh but there may be a lot of truth to that.
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    Unfortunately, that’s the point. It’s only funny cause it’s true.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Pryor makes throws That Flynn couldn’t even try. Waaaaay better passer.

  • SpudRaider

    DJ Johnny Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 10:44 am
    Spud, True. I give him credit for those games since it is best qb performance in GB history and it shows he has ability but maybe he’s just not a match for this team.

    I couldn’t be any less inspired by a QB going into a season than I am about Flynn.

    It just seems so boring and “lose-y”. Lol. I don’t know how to describe it.

    Not feelin it w/ Flynn.

    If some of u guys are excited about him…I hope you’re right.
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    I think there is a little confusion ….I agree he isn’t what I want as a starter. My point is that his “victories” are over-hyped.

    Pryor is the man.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    KoolKell Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:17 am
    Pryor makes throws That Flynn couldn’t even try. Waaaaay better passer.
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    Go back to sleep old man. You’re delusional.

  • SpudRaider

    Raiders for life Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 10:50 am
    Alex Parsons ‏@A_Parsons67 2h
    Id like to thank the Raiders for the opportunity to play the game I love and the #raidernation for the support over the years #bearded1

    Did he just get cut?
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    I wouldn’t be surprised if he was. Never turned into the player they thought he would. I think we pick-up another Center off waivers, or Robiski goes on the practice squad.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Cribbs is gone.

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    KoolKell Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:17 am
    Pryor makes throws That Flynn couldn’t even try. Waaaaay better passer.
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    Actually, thinking about it, you’re right. The pass last game where Pryor leaps up in the air and throws it up for grabs and gets Rod Streator killed? You’re right. No one but Pryor will make that type of pass. Of course Flynn or no one in the league would try to do that and for good reasons.

  • zopi

    Junior’s dilemma could have been avoided if Mac Zar hadn’t anointed Flynch with the #1 post. If indeed there were serious about an open competition for the starting qb job they should have kept it equal from the start. At the very least to respect the work and preparation that TP had done in the off-season.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Jerry McDonald
    Players waived: Harper, Hoese, McGuffie. Nelms, Robiskie, Session, Wade, Williams. No surprises.
    2 minutes ago from Twitter for iPhone

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Jerry McDonald
    Cribbs terminated as vested veteran. Simply never recovered from knee injury.
    4 minutes ago retweeted by CorkOnTheNFL from Twitter for iPhone

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Bruce Campbell has been waived again.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    thats too bad…cribbs was a gamechanger but his knee is shot…

  • zopi

    The throw to Streater did not cause the hit to head. Streater was turning upfield and got hit by the defensive back.

  • willy91137

    We are paying Flynn back up money but Reggie don’t want to put his boy that he thought was so good
    on the bench so he will probably start hem if he plays like he did last week

    he will come up lame and prior will go in and if we win or play much better

    thin DA say we going to stick with prior for a few more games I don’t think they will just start prior day one

    they will put him in their for a few plays in Indy maybe Alan said that once you take a quarterback out you don’t put them back in

    Reggie does not want everybody to think he f\up so he will try to hide it

    just what WILLY thanks

  • SpudRaider

    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:28 am
    Bruce Campbell has been waived again.
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    1st time he was cut– we traded him.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    shrek already has DA backstepping…

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Zopi Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:29 am
    The throw to Streater did not cause the hit to head. Streater was turning upfield and got hit by the defensive back.
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    When you jump in the air and throw balloons to receivers in this league, there is going to be a lot of hits to their heads.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:32 am
    shrek already has DA backstepping…

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    Will you now admit you were wrong about Bruce “BEAST” Campbell?

  • Al_is_theraiders

    bring him back he is better than half our olinemen if only by sheer mass…

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    SpudRaider Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:32 am
    Seymour Bush Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:28 am
    Bruce Campbell has been waived again.
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    1st time he was cut– we traded him.
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    I know that, I was just kidding. Campbell really had no business being in the league. No stomach for the game….

  • NGRaiderfan

    From @PFF – 5 of Flynn’s dropbacks Fri. were under pressure, had QB rating of 0.0; 5 of Pryor’s dropbacks under pressure, QB rating of 118.8

    -Vic Tafur

  • Whoknows

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 6m
    Criner back at practice
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  • inonewordraider

    it’s evident some people are more concerned with being right than having this team win

    Flynn might be a better qb than pryor, just like I believe cp is a better qb than jc. but guess what? with the team we have, oline being what it is, pryor gives THIS team the best chance to win

    isn’t that all that matters? am I missing something?

  • Al_is_theraiders

    one constant was nix and bergstrom getting manhandled on the oline..,

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Also, Keenan Clayton is gone, and Parsons is apparently going to be Waived/Injured. Andre Gurode is now our backup center.

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Al_is_theraiders Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:39 am
    one constant was nix and bergstrom getting manhandled on the oline..,

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    I read that Nix was cruddy, but Bergs was actually pretty decent.

  • Whoknows

    about B Campbell, didn’t we trade him for Goodson? I don’t see him around either.

  • Whoknows

    …around Oakland that is.

  • oklahomaRaider18

    Ravens released Guard Ramon Harewood…

  • Al_is_theraiders

    i watched him getting pushed back over and over…deep

  • Raider Fan in Fremont

    Why does some people think we have to start Pryor cuz he only threw 9 passes? What a crock of dung. Flynn sucks and Pryor is electric. Chew on that haters. Pryor is better than Flynn. Get ova it.

  • inonewordraider

    Scott Bair ‏@BairCSN 2m
    Entire starting defense on the practice field healthy for the first time. Porter was missing link

  • Al_is_theraiders

    goodie ran into law trouble in ny

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Whoknows Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:40 am
    about B Campbell, didn’t we trade him for Goodson? I don’t see him around either.

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    Goodson left as an FA, signed with Jets, then went and got arrested for DUI or somesuch.

  • Raider Fan in Fremont

    Flynn has gotten worse every game from Dallas to NO to Chi. Pryor has gotten better, in spite of the rigged ‘competition’. It’s a no brainer if you have a brain.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    soon to be raiders….

    “In addition to Harrell, the Packers released wide receiver Alex Gillett, wide receiver Omarius Hines, runinng back Angelo Pease, defensive tackle Gilbert Peña and wide receiver Justin Wilson. The Packers and the other 31 teams have until Tuesday afternoon to cut down to 75 players. “

  • RaidingTexas

    Thank fkn gawd they cut Cribbs. Jesus he was awful.

  • Whoknows

    I know where goodson is at. My point he is not here so for people to go on and crow about how smart it was for reggie to trade b campbell, he has nothing to show for it.

  • willy91137

    Marks Hair Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 10:53 am
    again yes I know how to spell are quarterbacks name I’m on a mobile phone and I don’t want to type and fix everything it messes up…
    I even understand the difference between are and our and hour…
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Mark HAIRThe don’t worry I use DragonDictate because my spelling is so bad you couldn’t read it
    so I use this machine and it works great but the trouble is if my dog barks or my wife screams at me it keeps on typing all kinds of ship
    if I don’t proofread it than people laugh at me and make fun of it I don’t care

    they ought to try this

    twice as fast as typing and once it recognize your voice it will pretty much do anything you ask it except cuss it won’t say F words or s s words but I can spell those words

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Inonewordraider Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:37 am
    it’s evident some people are more concerned with being right than having this team win

    Flynn might be a better qb than pryor, just like I believe cp is a better qb than jc. but guess what? with the team we have, oline being what it is, pryor gives THIS team the best chance to win

    isn’t that all that matters? am I missing something?
    =================================================

    Again, Greg Olsen, Dennis Allen and Reggie McKenzie are not going to turn the franchise over to some guy playing street ball. That ain’t gonna happen. If it was that easy, you wouldn’t need a McKenzie, Allen or Olsen. You could just find some athletic kid, have him run around, hopefully make some plays and save $8mm in coach and GM salaries. But It doesn’t work that way. And if Moore is going to run the wrong route for Flynn, he is going to run the wrong route for Pryor. Same with McFadden. But bottom line, at least Pryor is out there competing to win. That is something the starting ones didn’t seem interested in doing.

  • SpudRaider

    Of these cuts I see two who could end up on practice squad.

    McGuffie & Robiskie

    need to clear waiver 1st

  • RaidingTexas

    They cut Graham Harrell? Wow, sad when Vince Young beats you out for backup.

  • alex7

    Allen will not be fired at the end of this season.

    It’s ALREADY hard to get any legit coaches here. Firing TWO previous coaches after only giving them two seasons would continue to shout “DON’T COME HERE” to any worthwhile candidate.

    Give a guy a season with at least a full set of draft picks and salary cap to bring in talent before you assess his ability to coach.

  • Raiders for life

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 1m
    Terrelle Pryor and Menelik Watson (at left tackle) with first team as media window closes

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    Told ya Duck!!! Raiders new LT

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Whoknows Says:
    August 25th, 2013 at 11:45 am
    I know where goodson is at. My point he is not here so for people to go on and crow about how smart it was for reggie to trade b campbell, he has nothing to show for it.

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    We got one year of a darned good (6 yards/carry) backup running back. And if you think I’m crowing a little bit, go check out the forum archives right after the Goodson-for-Campbell swap was made. ALL SUMMER of 2012, the Reggie-haters went on and on and on about how Campbell was a guaranteed Hall-of-Famer and Carolina totally hosed us on the trade and Reggie basically traded Anthony Munoz in his prime blah blah blah.

  • inonewordraider

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 2m
    Terrelle Pryor and Menelik Watson (at left tackle) with first team as media window closes

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    come on menelik!