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Watson getting his `baptism by fire’

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, August 27th, 2013 at 4:48 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Filed for print with additional material . . .

The ascension of Menelik Watson to starting left tackle of the Raiders is part desperation and part necessity.

A second-round draft pick out of Florida State, Watson will get what offensive coordinator Greg Olson called a “baptism by fire’’ in the loudest road environment in the NFL when the Raiders visit the Seattle Seahawks Thursday night at CenturyLink Field.

Watson, who played at Saddleback College with Kyle Long, the son of Raider Hall of Fame defensive lineman Howie Long, has been a at the facility before when it was much quieter.

“I spoke to Howie Long and he was telling me about it,’’ Watson said. “It’s a loud venue. I got to see it coming out of junior college on my visit to Washington. It should be interesting.’’

Raiders coach Dennis Allen said Watson, along with quarterback Terrelle Pryor and cornerback D.J. Hayden, will remain in the preseason finale with the second team after most of the starters have departed.

“He hasn’t taken a snap in a game situation and he needs all the work he can get,’’ Allen said.

Watson was considered a raw prospect coming out of the draft because he played only 19 games of football at Saddleback and Florida State, all as a right tackle. He was late to football, originally playing college basketball at Marist College.

A calf injury kept Watson out of all of training camp except for a few drills, during which time he aggravated the injury. He finally got on the field for team sessions last Wednesday.

With Jared Veldheer out following left triceps surgery and veteran Alex Barron getting starts against New Orleans and Chicago, the Seattle game provides the only opportunity to see what Watson can do heading into the regular season opener Sept. 8 at Indianapolis.

“The question is whether or not time is on your side in getting a good evaluation, and the only way we’re going to get that evaluation is to let him play,’’ line coach Tony Sparano said.

Watson has so little experience that Sparano believes the problems associated with a switch from right tackle to left tackle are minimized “because he doesn’t have a history . . his bad habits are easy to break.’’
Having grown up in Manchester, England, as a soccer player before gravitating to basketball and then even dabbling in boxing before being talked into playing football, Watson has uncommon footwork for someone who is 6-foot-4 and 315 pounds.

Because of what Sparano calls “left tackle qualities’’ related to Watson’s athleticism, the Raiders were discussed in the offseason giving him some time on the left side to be a swing tackle who could play on the left side if Veldheer went down and compete to start on the right side.

The process has been accelerated because of Watson’s extended absence and Veldheer’s injury.

“It’s very technical, and things happen a lot quicker on the left,’’ Watson said. “Obviously, it’s the blind side, so you have to be double about your wits.’’

– The Raiders signed Justin Medlock to kick against Seattle and allow Sebastian Janikowski to rest a right calf strain and be ready for the opener on Sept. 8.

Medlock, who played at Mission San Jose High in Fremont and at UCLA, played in 10 days for Carolina last season and was 8-for-12 on field goal attempts. Medlock was a fifth-round draft pick by the Kansas City Chiefs in 2007 and has played in the Canadian Football League for Toronto and Hamilton.

“I’ve always said I always wanted to play for a Bay Area team,” Medlock said. “I’ve always been a big Bay Area fan so playing for the Raiders or Niners would be awesome. I’ve always wanted top lay for one of these teams.”

– Four players were removed from the roster to reach the NFL limit of 75. Linebacker Miles Burris was placed on the physically unable to perform list and will be out for at least the first six games of the season.

“Miles is doing a lot better now but we want to see how he continues to get better before we go ahead and activate him,” Allen said. “You only get 53 spots and you have to make sure that you’re making the right decisions. Sometimes those are tough things when you have injured players.

Cornerback Joselio Hanson (groin) and running back Latavius Murray (ankle) were placed on the injured reserve list, meaning neither can play for the Raiders this season. Cornerback Mitchell White was waived.

Hanson had an interception in the Raiders 36-24 preseason loss to Chicago, but came out of the game with an injured and Allen said an MRI determined it to be a “significant’’ groin injury.

Murray, slow to recover from recent arthroscopic surgery on his ankle, remains property of the Raiders and can make another run at the roster starting next off-season. He was a fifth-round draft pick out of Central Florida who had eight carries for 29 yards in the preseason opener against Dallas but didn’t play against New Orleans or Chicago.

He had been expected to compete for the role as Darren McFadden’s backup.

“Right now we have Rashad Jennings and Jeremy Stewart,” Allen said. “Both those guys have done a pretty good job this preseason. It’ll be another opportunity for them on Thursday to go out and prove their worth and we’ll get another evaluation on them.

– Wide receiver Rod Streater has passed all the league-mandated concussion tests, was cleared to practice, and Allen expects him to face Seattle.

– Linebacker Sio Moore has a toe injury which has limited his practice time the past two days, Allen said.

– Sparano said the switch of Lucas Nix to right guard with Tony Bergstrom at left guard was because “the right side’s a little thicker position, a little stronger position, the left side a little more athletic. That’s kind of why we did that. But we’ll see what happens when we get down to Indianapolis.”

– Olson addressing the struggles of Matt Flynn against Chicago: “Some of it’s bad luck. He has a protection error that’s not on Matt Flynn at all where a free hitter comes that’s not Matt Flynn’s error. We have an illegal formation that’s not Matt Flynn’s error that takes away a pass there, so when you get started in a game like that, confidence has to do with it. Maybe his confidence got rattled a little bit early on. A number of factors could have come. But, he has played better, he will play better, we expect him to play better, and he expects it out of himself.”

– Perhaps believing he sounded a bit harsh during his last press session when discussing the maturity level of wide receiver Denarius Moore, Olson wanted to set the record straight before being asked a question.

“(Moore) is doing the things we have asked him to do . . . I have been pleased with Denarius Moore and the way he has approached our training camp and he’ll continue to get better.”

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  • J Hill

    My Mac isn’t having that many issues either.

  • jumpnjiminy

    You know, with Pryor starting and McGloin backing up…as Dennis Allen would say, “listen”…blah, blah…no really. What I like about those 2 kids is they actually WANT to WIN. Unlike that bum Palmer who I can never forgive for stat padding during his tenure here…total waste of my time…but I still watched the dam games…cuz I really am a Raider fan.

  • Charlie

    Aaron Curry.

    Another example of why former number one picks become “available”.

    Other notables; Richard Seymour, Gerard Warren, Willaim Joseph etc. etc.

    You can only build through the draft. A FA agent can help plug a hole and buy some time once in a while but you will NEVER build the core of your team through FA in the cap era.

    Never. That is why this rebuild will take 3-5 years.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    #697 great post

    Its scary knowing we are one hit away form Flynn being our QB!

  • willy91137

    I think if prior gets to start the season by halfway point he’ll be twice as good as he is now

    his passes will be much better in decision-making will be better and the offense of line
    will be used to playing with him and protecting him I hope he gets to start the season
    because if were not going to win I want it be exciting and with him in their it’s always exciting

  • Kirk

    Every team in the 2012 NFL playoffs had at least 1 starting OT drafted in the 1st round, and of the two teams in the SuperBowl, BOTH their offensive tackles were chosen in the first round….

    GB: Bulga, 1st
    Indy: Castonzo, 1st
    Cincy: Whitworth, Smith, 2nd and 1st
    Bal: McKinnie, Oher, 1st and 1st
    Hou: Brown, 1st
    NE: Solder, Vollmer, 1st and 2nd
    Den: Clady, Franklin, 1st and 2nd
    Minn: Kalil, Loadholt, 1st and 2nd
    Was: Williams, 1st
    Sea: Okung, 1st
    Atl: Baker, 1st
    SF: Staley, Davis, 1st and 1st
    Bal: McKinnie, Oher, 1st and 1st

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Without Dr. Smith and Robbie the Robot, no reason to watch Lost in Space.
    And Penny Robinson. She was an older woman for me.
    Not as hot as Susan Dey in the Partridge Family, though.

  • elraidmanhattan

    Seeing Aaron Curry retiring gives me bad flashbacks, Hue the talent maven trading for him and palmer. Hue’s crowning achievement was taking over as coordinator and play caller for Cable…..that’s it, after the meglomania and painted toenails took over….horrid.

  • J Hill

    We need a backup QB.

    An undrafted FA can’t be the option.

    Flynn can’t score against 1s with the roster we have.

  • elraidmanhattan

    Someone tell silver and black this isn’t match.com trying to hook up here is embarrassing

  • willy91137

    Kirk Says:
    August 28th, 2013 at 9:46 am
    Every team in the 2012 NFL playoffs had at least 1 starting OT drafted in the 1st round, and of the two teams in the SuperBowl, BOTH their offensive tackles were chosen in the first round….
    @willy
    do you think Veldheer could start for one of those teams he was a third-round pick ?

  • DJ Johnny

    One thing I find very disappointing so far is how our defense has looked so far.

    Most of the blog thought that “at least our D will be better”. After watching the Saints 1st half and then the Chicago debacle I finally realized “Holy crap. Now I get why everyone says we’re gonna suck”.

    I expected we’d fundamentally sound with a bunch of eager young guys tackling, wrapping up…a bit of a pass rush etc. but seeing that Forte run was just embarrassing. Hope it was a fluke cuz if that play is any indication how they’re gonna be in the reg season then we are in trouble no matter who plays QB.

    Even if Pryor turns out to be this magical playmaker who moves the chains regularly the defense still has to come through for us and at least be let’s say…below average; as opposed to like 31st in the league.

  • elraidmanhattan

    Flynn to me is just an afterthought, not even considering him as part of this season. Reggie if you are embarrassed just stash him on IR.

  • No Mas Diamante

    The defense has been very vanilla. Let’s wait until Indy to see what we really have.

  • Kirk

    willy91137 Says:
    August 28th, 2013 at 9:50 am
    Kirk Says:
    August 28th, 2013 at 9:46 am
    Every team in the 2012 NFL playoffs had at least 1 starting OT drafted in the 1st round, and of the two teams in the SuperBowl, BOTH their offensive tackles were chosen in the first round….
    @willy
    do you think Veldheer could start for one of those teams he was a third-round pick ?
    …………………………………………..

    I’m not an expert. But offensive tackle is the second most important position on the football field, and Al Davis picked DBs in the first round of 5 of 8 drafts. This is why we have scked throughout the years.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Plunketthead Says:
    August 28th, 2013 at 4:10 am
    Rag on Raiders chatroom rules
    #1 Don’t let goobers rent space in your head
    #2 Don’t cash checks your arse cant cover

    feel free to add

    #6 When swinging a purse, make sure to be “double about your wits”

  • No Mas Diamante

    Veldheer was quite a find. Good pick. We are going to miss him but the experience Watson is going to get will be huge.

  • J Hill

    but seeing that Forte run was just embarrassing.

    —————————————————————————-

    Couldn’t agree more.

  • elraidmanhattan

    The way the defense embarrassed itself on friday was so disillusioning, it was more than just rookie misreads, and sealing the edges, it was lack of execution and like a deer in headlights reaction. Not sure those things can be corrected

  • Kirk

    elraidmanhattan Says:
    August 28th, 2013 at 9:50 am
    Flynn to me is just an afterthought, not even considering him as part of this season. Reggie if you are embarrassed just stash him on IR.
    …………………………………………..

    Trade him to the Bills.

  • elraidmanhattan

    The forte run just left my mouth ajar due to the ineptitude, but Cutler looked like he could of set up a table and had dinner back there.

  • shutdown

    Marley Bob Says:
    August 28th, 2013 at 6:31 am
    Man the QB debate has gone too far now.

    From Zymurge flat-out calling TP too stupid to learn the playbook to the conspiracy theories about intentionally sabotaging him, both sides have take it to the extreme.

    Listen, Greg Olson already said they gave TP a package of plays to suit his skills and then admitted that TP’s performance in Camp and pre-season has forced them, in the good sense of the word, to expand that package and put a lot more into it.
    ____________________________________________________

    Here’s hoping that what Olson actually meant by his statement is that TP doesn’t “know the playbook” from a practical standpoint (ie, that he hasn’t practiced a good bulk of the plays in the whole play book) and NOT from an intellectual standpoint because I can’t imagine that a player like TP who has proclaimed he wants to be an NFL starting Qb wouldn’t have taken it upon himself to learn “the playbook.”

    If that IS what Olson meant (that TP hasn’t practiced much of the playbook, it’s because they felt that if Flynn went down, they’d have OTHER plays for Pryor to run, plays that suited his skills and downplayed his weaknesses. Face it, a huge number of first string Qbs do down at some point in the season, either for a few minutes of a game or even for a few games per season and the number 2 guy gets a start or two.

    The O-line being so fouled up by injuries this entire camp has made it really hard to give either Qb with his own skill set a good look-see.

  • RaiderRockstar

    the coaching staff & beat writers disagree with you

    Can I use that line on you in reference to Watson?

    ***

    @Jhill

    No, because the coaching staff & beat writers didn’t even get to see Watson in training camp PLUS he’s missed the previous 3 preseason games

    Never played LT in his life!

    wake the heck up, man. comparing Menelik to McGloin… Pfft

  • Kirk

    elraidmanhattan Says:
    August 28th, 2013 at 9:53 am
    The way the defense embarrassed itself on friday was so disillusioning, it was more than just rookie misreads, and sealing the edges, it was lack of execution and like a deer in headlights reaction. Not sure those things can be corrected
    …………………………………………..

    They have not played together much. Hopefully they will get better over time.

    At least McClain and Kelly are gone. Freaking knuckleheads.

  • willy91137

    @willy
    do you think Veldheer could start for one of those teams he was a third-round pick ?
    …………………………………………..

    I’m not an expert. But offensive tackle is the second most important position on the football field, and Al Davis picked DBs in the first round of 5 of 8 drafts. This is why we have scked throughout the years.
    @willy
    I know but could Veldheerr start for one of those teams?

  • Just Fire Baby

    Every team in the 2012 NFL playoffs had at least 1 starting OT drafted in the 1st round, and of the two teams in the SuperBowl, BOTH their offensive tackles were chosen in the first round….

    GB: Bulga, 1st
    Indy: Castonzo, 1st
    Cincy: Whitworth, Smith, 2nd and 1st
    Bal: McKinnie, Oher, 1st and 1st
    Hou: Brown, 1st
    NE: Solder, Vollmer, 1st and 2nd
    Den: Clady, Franklin, 1st and 2nd
    Minn: Kalil, Loadholt, 1st and 2nd
    Was: Williams, 1st
    Sea: Okung, 1st
    Atl: Baker, 1st
    SF: Staley, Davis, 1st and 1st
    Bal: McKinnie, Oher, 1st and 1st

    ****************************************

    What round were the tackles drafted in for the New York Giants?

    Or the Steelers?

    Or those 3 Super Bowl winning Patriots team.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    J Hill Says:
    My Mac isn’t having that many issues either.
    ======================================================

    I doubt it has anything to do with our OS’s or platforms.
    All WordPress related.
    The conspiracy theorist(Oh No!) in me wants to know if Becker deliberately tweaked it to mess with us(Wake up call,of sorts) or simply isn’t taking care of business.
    WordPress is hardly nearing ‘end of life’ as someone suggested.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Zymurge flat-out calling TP too stupid to learn the playbook

    ***

    really? did that happen?

    OMG – racist trash on the anniversary of MLK’s “dream speech”

  • Charlie

    Thanks Kirk.

    I posted that quite a while ago but it proves the point.

    Good offense and defense both start with superior line play.

    No skill guy is going to succeed behind a weak Oline especially against good defenses.

    No DB is going to cover an NFL WR for 9.85 seconds (Saints preseason game).

    Many on the blog were shocked that we would even consider drafting an Olineman, let alone with a high pick. Guys like Barron and Barnes can not compete.
    Like Aaron Curry, former number one picks become “available” for a reason (Barnes/Barron).

    Thankfully there will be more use of first and second round picks on lineman in the coming years.

  • elraidmanhattan

    Kirk i am sure the bills could have traded for him, matter of fact his name was being mentioned in connection with them, but they decided on that stud Kolb.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “The forte run just left my mouth aja”

    Yes we have heard your homo erotic fantasies before.

    Calm down little guy you are getting yourself all worked up.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “i am sure the bills could have traded for him,”

    Now its play GM time because finger painting is over how cute!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Not trading FLynn after two restructures.

    Not even sure that is allowed by the CBA.

  • elraidmanhattan

    Kirk i am hoping and praying that it was that in fact . Btw, kelly mcclain and seymour didn’t help last year, i know some fixing must be done or luck is going to throw for 400 yards, and brown will run for 125

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    I cant stand these boobs on my local morning sports radio. They are clueless and try to pass themselves off as experts. They are out of towners yet try and sell themselves as being knowledgeable of the scene and its history here.

    They were talikng about pryor vs flynn and it was sickening. They twisted turned and wormed their way through the segment claiming that pryor got himself the start because he is the “best option” right now and gives the team “the best chance to win”

    That seems decent enough doesnt it? Until you realize the reasons for their saying pryor is ‘the best option” was nothing more than coded language. they supported their claim citing “athleticism and the bad o line”. They spoke about flynns tendinitis as being a reason that pryor is now the “best option’. of course they also floated the blog favorite ” he may be the best because the group isnt that good”

    they absouluteley did everything in the power to avoid saying the obvious…..PRYOR EARNED THE START BECAUSE HE IS THE BEST AND MOST COMPLETE QB ON THIS TEAM. They did not want to admit that pryor simply out played the competition and forced the hand of allen.

    So when i couldnt take another stinking second of this painfully dreadful broadcast filled with their flawed takes, i called them

    They know me by my radio handle THA SUPAVILLAIN. I called them out on the fact that thier show spent the entire off season hyping wilson vs flynn and dismissing pryor all together.

    i asked them to take ownership of the fact that they were completely wrong about pryor.

    i reminded them that pryor for the first two games was being limited to a very small “package ” of plays in the first two games, and only because flynn was terrible did allen and olsen finally let him run the base offense. i used olsesn press conference admission of this fact as proof. I pointed out that when he did run the base offense he was head and shoulders better than flynn in that base offense and wilson doesnt even get off the bench.

    i sited pryors 7/9 showing as proof of his being the best passer on the team.

    i challenged them to admit that pryor is the best all around qb most complete and best passing qb on the team.

    They stammered stuttered and ultimately balked. They did not address anything that i mentioned and one of the host said “im not sure about that he is so un-established (sic) as a passer. The other guy said “slow your rowhe hasnt proven that yet”.

    these clowns are nothing more than pryor haters and cant admit they were dead azz wrong, and want to put pryors advancement solely on the his legs and flynns tendinitis.

    i told them prpyor is the franchise qb and got off the phone.

    I cant wait to call them later in the year and force them to admit that i was right,…….once again.

    So far i have owned the so called rise guys, from jc to palmer and to pryor wilson and flynn

    i beatsed on them cats

  • Golden Haired Hero

    jumpnjiminy Says:
    …What I like about those 2 kids is they actually WANT to WIN. Unlike that bum Palmer who I can never forgive for stat padding during his tenure here…total waste of my time…
    ====================================================

    You guys will rue the day…

  • J Hill

    but they decided on that stud Kolb.

    ——————————————————————————

    For more loot too, right?

  • Al_is_theraiders

    charlie you too shall see how terrible a job shrek has done very soon…

  • elraidmanhattan

    Silver and black, little guy? Seriously since when is being 6’2 205 with an iq of 140 little?

  • Just Fire Baby

    I believe trading FLynn after two restructures would fall under the “Ethical trade considerations” and may not be allowed.

    I have heard before that if you restructure a player i the offseason you can not trade him either prior to the season or something along those lines.

    http://www.ehow.com/list_6703253_nfl-player-trade-rules.html

  • Just Fire Baby

    I cant stand these boobs on my local morning sports radio.

    ********************************

    Maybe you can call the editor and tell them about how outsiders are ruining a “local” blog.

  • elraidmanhattan

    Kolb yeah right guy was a a built up b.s by Reid, low round pick from Houston that nobody knew, sort of like mike mitchell.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    Elraidmanboobs

    Your a feeble minded little guy quit trying hard to run with the big dogs.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Many on the blog were shocked that we would even consider drafting an Olineman,

    ******************************

    Or, some predicted we would draft an O-lineman in the first round and ridiculed people who said we would DB.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Seriously since when is being 6′2 205 with an iq of 140 little?”

    LMFAO

    Oh my this is so funny!

    How many times have we all laughed at bloggers and trolls for saying one of these typical internet tough guy statements:

    1. I know karate

    2. I have a 10 inch dick

    3. I have a 150 IQ

    4. I am 220 lbs of muscle and MMA trained

    5. I drive a Porsche

    6. I own my own company

    That is so funny how you picked 2 of those typical “Internet tough guy want to be” responses!

    NICE WORK!!

  • Charlie

    JFB

    You lost this argument a while ago.

    If these preseason has not gotten your attention as to why you need to build the lines nothing will.

    You want to blame Reggie for not finding HOF talent with late round picks and UDFA’s while on the job for 18 months go ahead. You are in a ever dwindling minority.

    Both the Giants and Steelers used their number one picks this year on in the box guys. Who were the first two guys taken in this years draft?

    SEE BELOW REGARDING YOUR COMPARISON TO STEELERS/GIANTS.

    GIANTS/STEELERS DRAFT HISTORY FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS REVEALS THE FOLLOWING:

    The Giants drafted 8 “in the box” type players with first or second round picks during the past decade.
    What is misleading is when you go back a bit further you find:

    STRAHAN #1
    PETITGOUT #1
    GRAGG #2
    The Giants had the good fortune of getting unusual longevity out of VERY HIGH DRAFT PICKS. AS A RESULT THEY HAD A CORE THAT ALLOWED THEM TO FOCUS ON SKILL GUYS WITH HIGH PICKS BECAUSE THEY HAD BUILT THE CORE OF THEIR LINES IN THE LATE 90’S.

    The Steelers drafted 12 “in the box” type players with first or second round picks during the last decade.

    BY CONTRAST THE RAIDERS DRAFTED 7 IN THE BOX TYPE PLAYERS WITH HIGH ROUND PICKS. THEY ALSO TRADED AWAY THREE OF THEIR 20 HIGH ROUND PICKS DURING THAT TIME. MOST WERE ALL AVERAGE TO POOR PICKS.

    BRAYTON,HOWARD,GALLERY,GROVE,McCLAIN. WE CAN BE GENEROUS AND SAY THAT HOUSTON AND WIZ II WERE SUCCESSFUL.

    THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS THAT SUCCESSFUL WINNING FRANCHISES BUILD THE CORE OF THEIR LINES WITH FIRST AND SECOND ROUND PICKS. IF THEY MISS THEY KEEP DOING IT TILL THEY GET IT RIGHT.

    THAT IS WHAT THE RAIDERS USED TO DO AND THEY GOT AWAY FROM IT FOR THE LAST DECADE.
    ANYONE SAYING THAT IT IS UNWISE TO USE TOP PICKS ON “IN THE BOX TALENT” IS NOT KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT RAIDER HISTORY OR THE GAME:
    Conners #2 Schuh #2 Upshaw #1 Thoms #1 Buehler #2 Villapianao #2 Korver #2 Johnson#2
    Lawrence #2 Millen #2 Mosebar #1 Pickell #2

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    Elraidmanhattan you are almost there little guy just come out and claim that you drive a Ferrari and have a 9″ cock and you will have a perfect score on the internet gangster chat cred barometer.

  • RaiderRockstar

    It is another reason why I have stressed drafting lineman with high round picks. Injuries do happen and now we have to start Watson at LT. Thankfully we drafted Watson in the second round. Many on the blog did not see any need to draft an Olineman at all.

    ***

    @Charlie

    this is not the time to spout your agenda regarding the O-Line. Nobody could have predicted Veldheer’s injury. Nobody knew how bad Brisiel would suck when Reggie signed him.

    Brisiel, Watson, Parsons all missed time with injuries

    Reggie had plenty of chances to address the OL in FA and his answers for us are Barron & Gurode it appears

    it’s not that he hasn’t addressed it. It’s that he simply does not have an eye for talent when it comes to O-Liners or expects Tony Sparano to be some kind of miracle worker

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    So when i couldnt take another stinking second of this painfully dreadful broadcast filled with their flawed takes, i called them

    They stammered stuttered and ultimately balked. these clowns are nothing more than pryor haters and cant admit they were dead azz wrong,

    I cant wait to call them later in the year and force them to admit that i was right,…….once again.

    So far i have owned the so called rise guys, from jc to palmer and to pryor wilson and flynn

    i beatsed on them cats
    ======================================================

    Yep! You and Robbie been beastin’ on the call in sports shows!
    Be damn surprised if either of you are ever allowed on the air again after those beat downs.

  • JLofty

    No westslope llamaman, but last I chked the version BANG is using is REALLY old….