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Allen knows Raiders QB, but he’s not telling

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Following a 22-6 loss to the Seattle Seahawks to close out the preseason, Raiders coach Dennis Allen was asked point blank if he knew who his starting quarterback would be when the regular season begins.

“I’m not telling you, but yes,’’ Allen said.

An anxious fan base will have to wait and see whether Terrelle Pryor or Matt Flynn will be under center when the Raiders play against the Indianapolis Colts on Sept. 8.

Based on how things went when Pryor subbed for a sore-armed Matt Flynn Thursday night before 67,341 fans at CenturyLink Field, it could go either way.

The Raiders finished the preseason 1-3 and Allen will turn his attention to trimming 22 players form the roster to get to the NFL limit of 53 by Saturday. Seattle is 4-0.

Pryor showed the running skills that make him such an intriguing option but struggled with his passing in a first-half performance which was limited to 19 snaps because Seattle moved at will against the Raiders first- and second-team defense.

With 45 yards rushing on three carries, including a 25-yard burst around right end and a 17-yard bootleg to the left, Pryor helped set up Justin Medlock for field goals of 45 and 37yards.

But when it came to pass, Pryor was 3 of 8 for 31 yards, an interception on an under-thrown deep ball to Jacoby Ford, and a miniscule 9.9 passer rating. Late in the half, when the Raiders took over with 3:52 to play, they went 61 yards without completing a pass _ not exactly a pro-style passing attack.

Allen thought the lack of rhythm in the passing game was at least in part due to having the ball for only 19 plays. Pryor was critical of himself over the interception, but otherwise thought he did OK.

The Raiders sat out center Stefen Wisniewski and right tackle Khalif Barnes, in addition to running back Darren McFadden.

“I didn’t have some of my guys, guys I was working with all week,’’ Pryor said. “I’ll get better. It’s crunch time now.’’

Allen said he will withhold an announcement of the quarterback “until the appropriate time’’, and when asked if he might wait until the season opener, said, “We’ll see.’’

Flynn, Allen said, is expected to be back at practice and ready to play Monday after resting his arm.

Neither quarterback was interested in lobbying for the job.

“I don’t really want to get into that,’’ Pryor said. It’s going to be coach’s call and whatever he thinks is best for the team. It’s all about the team, and if it’s me leading, I’ll lead to the best of my ability and we’ll get things done. If it’s Matt leading, then we’ll get things done too and I’ll support him.’’

Allen may know who the quarterback is, but Flynn said he had no idea and added, “I don’t know. We’ll wait and see. I can only control what I do.’’

Allen was able to find silver linings among the black clouds that found the Raiders scoring only 16 points in the first halves of the last three preseason games.

Most notably, Seattle had only 34 yards rushing on 17 first-half carries.

“We wanted to be a physical team in this game and really I thought we were,’’ Allen said. “ I thought our guys played with effort, I thought our guys ran around. We didn’t always play as smart as we needed to play.’’

Another bright spot was left tackle Menelik Watson, playing his first game at the position after only one padded practice. The second-round pick incurred no penalties and had no glaring mistakes.

“The first thing that comes to mind is I’ve got to get better,’’ Watson said. “There’s a few things comfort wise with the run game, that I got more reps at. I think I did a good job mostly just concentrating on the assignment and what I’ve got to do.’’

– Seattle starting quarterback Russell Wilson was 3 of 3 for 68 yards and a touchdown and Robert Hauschka kicked five field goals to account for Seattle’s scoring.

The Raiders were particularly vulnerable on rollouts and bootlegs with receivers breaking free.

– Running back Rashad Jennings had 53 yards on six carries including bursts of 9 and 32 yards on Oakland’s field goal drive before the half.

—- Wide receiver Brice Butler did not make the trip because of a hamstring injury and Sio Moore, bothered by a toe injury of late, also did not play.

– Mike Brisiel, who has struggled with his knee of late, played as the second-team right guard in the second half behind starter Lucas Nix.

– Rookie defensive end David Bass, a seventh-round draft pick, got good pressure and had one sack erased by a defensive holding penalty by linebacker Kaelin Burnett.

– It was the eighth consecutive year the Raiders have ended the preseason against the Seahawks. Seattle has won seven times, with the only Raiders win coming 23-16 in the only game played between the two teams in Oakland in 2010.

– Pryor on how he’s adjusting to the differences between college and pro football): “Accuracy. Timing with receivers. I think I’ve definitely gotten better with that. Making strides. Today I threw one to Rod (Streater), I believe, and he hadn’t come out of his break yet.”

– Flynn on if line struggles and his mobility hurt his chances to be the starter: “There are a lot of things we have been cleaning up protection-wise. A lot of it is miscommunications and things we need to get cleaned up.”

How Flynn would assess the preseason: “I felt there were a lot of good things. I don’t judge the preseason by just what happened in some of the games. It’s about seeing where you are as a player and a football team and I think overall things went well. We would have liked to put some better stuff on film game-wise but that’s what it’s for.”

– Chris Kluwe had a line-drive 44-yard punt that Walter Thurmond returned up the middle for 28 yards, but later had a 48-yard punt with good hangtime. Marquette King hit a 52-yard punt with a net of 41 on his lone punt.

Kluwe was the holder on Medlock’s 45-yard field goal, and King was the holder when Medlock connected from 37. Medlock was subbing for Sebastian Janikowski, who sat out the game with a calf injury.

“I think it’s been a good competition. I think both of those guys have done some good things and we’ll let you know at the appropriate time who we decide to go with,” Allen said.

– Allen said he planned all along not to play not to play Wisniewski, Barnes and McFadden. Free safety Charles Woodson sat out because he was ill.

– Lamarr Houston and Christo Bilukidi had sacks for the Raiders, who had their best penetration of the preseason from their defensive front. Rookie seventh-round pick David Bass had a sack erased on a penalty.

“This was the first time this preseason we were able to get our starting defensive line all together and I thought we did a nice job of stopping the run and really there was a couple of times where were able to get to the quarterback too and that was good to see,” Allen said.

–Not much to choose from in the battle for third quarterback between Matt McGloin (5 of 7 for 41 yards, zero points) and Tyler Wilson (8 of 12, 65 yards, zero points).

One of the more intriguing cuts the Raiders will make. McGloin had the better training camp and preseason, but was an undrafted free agent. Wilson was a fourth-round draft pick. Allen has stressed competition, but general manager Reggie McKenzie could well take that position that in projecting the players, Wilson will be the better player down the road.

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  • jumpnjiminy

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 11:33 am
    done for now

    when pryor leads us to 5-7 wins this year it will be seen as improvement and rightly so.

    he will win more game than palmer did last year & he will deserve the lions share of credit for the upswing of the team

    book it
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    Agree – I admit to being a Palmer ‘hater’

  • jumpnjiminy

    But I still say ‘start McGloin!’

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Am I the only one who watched last night and came away thinking Denarius just doesn’t care anymore?

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    West Coast State of Mind

    1 hour ago

    No Pryor Restraint
    Raw and electrifying, quarterback Terrelle Pryor gives the Raiders a better chance to win this season than the experienced and efficient Matt Flynn

    By
    Jim Trotter· SEATTLE — After concluding the preseason with a 22-6 loss to the Seahawks on Thursday night, Raiders coach Dennis Allen was asked if he knows who his Week 1 starting quarterback will be at Indianapolis.

    “I’m not going to tell you, but yes,” he said.

    Football coaches are funny creatures. They treat secrecy as if it were currency and cling to the concept as if it were gold. Still, you would have to be deaf (to the players), dumb (to the realities of the Raiders’ situation) and blind (to the playmaking abilities of the candidates) to believe Allen should go with anyone but Terrelle Pryor, the unpolished passer yet gifted runner who has provided the biggest spark to the offense.

    It’s true that Pryor’s numbers were awful in his only preseason start on Thursday. He completed just 3 of 8 passes for 31 yards with no touchdowns, one interception and a 9.9 rating. By artwork standards, it was a finger-painting. But what the numbers do not say is that the Raiders’ blueprint for winning has blown up. They entered training camp wanting to be stingy on defense and mistake-free on offense; that way they could get to the fourth quarter and have an opportunity to make a play and win. But in four exhibition games the defense allowed scores on 16 of 18 first-half series, excluding a kneel down. It gave up seven touchdowns and nine field goals, forced just one punt and had another series end with a blocked field goal.

    Viewed as a role player coming into camp, Pryor is now a potential leading man.
    There’s little reason to believe the unit, which could have as many as nine new starters, can flip a switch at the beginning the regular season. Consequently the Raiders are going to have to be more dynamic on offense, which hurts Matt Flynn. His advantage over Pryor is his experience and efficiency. That, however, works against him if the offense is playing catch-up, particularly with a line that might be among the worst in the league (especially after left tackle Jared Veldheer was lost until at least the midseason with a torn left triceps).

    It’s little wonder that the word most often heard in the Raiders’ locker room after the game—and in private conversations with players beforehand—was playmakers. As in, We need them. Pryor is just that, even if the numbers from Thursday don’t reflect it. When he’s on the field there’s a feeling that something positive could happen. On any given play he could carry the ball 70 yards, and, unlike Flynn, he has the arm strength to stretch the field in the passing game.

    That’s critical because the Raiders sorely lack playmakers on offense. Running back Darren McFadden has the ability, but he has yet to play a full season since entering the league in 2008. Wideout Denarius Moore is another, but he tends to disappear for stretches. Running back Marcel Reece can pose a matchup problem for defenses in the passing game. There are no established threats beyond them.

    (Marcio Jose Sanchez/AP) – Behind a stout line, with a stingy defense, the Raiders could make it work with Flynn. But that’s connect-the-dots stuff, and Oakland lacks the necessary dots. Which is why they need someone like Pryor, a 6-4, 233-pound signal-caller who can improvise on a broken play to create something beautiful, as he did on Thursday night when he gained 25 yards on a scramble.

    His rawness as a passer works against him, although he is improving. On Thursday he was hurt by a couple of drops, and his interception was the result of being late with the delivery on a deep pass down the sideline. Pryor attributed his tardiness to being inexperienced throwing to double-moves from the pistol formation, which is what was called on that play.

    While he will never be confused with Tom Brady, the Patriots icon with whom he worked out part of the offseason, he also should not be viewed as the newborn colt who stumbled around the pocket at Ohio State. His abilities as a passer, and his understanding of the passing game, have increased exponentially since entering the league two years ago. Much of it stems from his work this offseason with Tom House, a mechanics/movement coach whose clients includes Brady, Saints QB Drew Brees and Chiefs QB Alex Smith.

    His company, 3D QB, evaluates each athlete’s throwing motion and functional arm strength, then develops programs to help build on strengths and correct weaknesses. It also develops a nutritional plan for participants and creates a mental/emotional profile. Pryor spent roughly three months working with House, sometimes two and three times a week.

    “Pretty special kid,” House says of Pryor. “The awesome thing about him is that he made adjustments almost immediately. He was hungry. He was willing to give what we offered a shot. The combination of his willingness to embrace the science and make it a little bit better for him physically and mechanically turned into some positive feedback real quick.”

    For instance, Pryor learned that he was leaving his chest open, which made him late with his delivery. “So when I was coming down to throw with my left arm, my right arm was saying it’s time to go, the timing wasn’t right,” he said. “[House] kind of helped me with that.”

    “I tell all the great ones and those who strive to be great: Problem identification is half your solution,” House says. “If we have a toolkit to help you with your solution, that’s where the relationship builds. When we identified the few small problems that Terrelle had, and showed him the toolkit, it was unbelievable how quick he made adjustments. He’s very authentic. He can actually look at his strengths and weaknesses and learn how to make the adjustments. That’s what was cool working with him.”

    There will be growing pains if the Raiders go with Pryor. Their initial plan was to create a package of plays for him, many relying on his athleticism. But that has been adjusted in recent weeks. More is being put on his plate. Viewed as a role player coming into camp, he’s now a potential leading man. So much so that Allen got upset with him Thursday night for taking an unnecessary hit on a bootleg. That never would have happened last year, or even a few weeks ago in the first preseason games. But times are changing.

    Allen knows Pryor’s value is now greater than a dozen or so plays. He didn’t say as much Thursday night, but look for him to do so in the next few days. It’ll be the right call.

    http://mmqb.si.com/2013/08/30/terrelle-pryor-oakland-raiders/

    SI’s Jim Trotter nails it. another one.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    NGRaiderfan Says:
    Terry bradshaw threw as many ints and he did tds. 4 super bowls, hall of famer
    ======================================================

    That’s ‘cuz Swann was afraid of getting hit!

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Jim Trotter ‏@SI_JimTrotter 44m Here you go, Raiders fans. My thoughts on your QB situation. http://mmqb.si.com/2013/08/30/no-pryor-restraint/

  • the famous dr robert

    Interesting article about griffin if u care.

    Doctor Andrews thinks he should run less.

    http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=9616007

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “One pick. Not two.”

    WRONG!

  • Raider Dawg

    “Somebody needs to explain McGloin’s 14 step drop to me”

    It takes that long for our WR’s to get open.

    *******************************

    If only they actually were open after a 14 step drop. That would ensure at least a few receptions, assuming of course a few stuck in the face masks of receivers. Lord knows nobody is out there catchings with their hands. That would be silly.

  • Stabler76

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 11:22 am
    McGloin is the best QB on our roster and has the most upside we should be starting him this season.

    ===

    I’m onboard with this. Move forward with him now

  • Raider Dawg

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
    Am I the only one who watched last night and came away thinking Denarius just doesn’t care anymore?
    *************************

    He looks terrible. Unrecognizable.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Matt Flynn was Seattle’s headline free-agent addition in 2012.

    He became more like a footnote on Monday, traded to Oakland for a fifth-round pick in next year’s draft and a conditional pick in 2015.”

    http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2020689323_seahawks02.html

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Raiders Beat ‏@RaidersBeat 2h A lot of #Raiders QB discussion today. My outsider opinion is it will be Terrelle Pryor and it’s not really close.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    NGRaiderfan Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:00 pm
    0 points against third string D. Mcgloin i can see ppl picking because they dont want o choose flynn or pryor thats cute. But mcgloim has more ints than tds. Almost threw another one last night. He’s only really had one or two good drives outside of that it was all three and outs or turnovers.

    ===

    McGloin has more TDs than either QB ahead of him. His TD:Int ratio is 2:3. Both Pryor and Flynn are 1:2, which for the math challenged is worse.

    Also, McGloin is coming into games with the team way down already and basically allowed to go out and huck the ball to see what he’s got. They barely even try to run when he’s in the game. The guy has made throws better than the best of Pryor and Flynn combined this preseason and shows the best passing upside on the team.

    If you want to talk ab out “almost” ints, I have 4 against Pryor already this preseason. 3 of those are against backups. Starters will make more of those catches and his numbers will look really ugly, real fast.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Jim Trotter ‏@SI_JimTrotter 2h Btw, my column on the Raiders QB situation will post today on MMQB. Hopefully, Dennis Allen clicks on it.

    ————-

    earlier tweet

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:08 pm

    “Matt Flynn was Seattle’s headline free-agent addition in 2012.

    He became more like a footnote on Monday, traded to Oakland for a fifth-round pick in next year’s draft and a conditional pick in 2015.”

    http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2020689323_seahawks02.html

    =======================================

    And if he ends up not playing, he won’t make the condition for the second draft pick and we will have only given up one.

  • Marks hair

    we will win just enough games to miss out on Clowney..

  • jumpnjiminy

    Raider Dawg Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:06 pm
    “Somebody needs to explain McGloin’s 14 step drop to me”

    It takes that long for our WR’s to get open.

    *******************************

    If only they actually were open after a 14 step drop. That would ensure at least a few receptions, assuming of course a few stuck in the face masks of receivers. Lord knows nobody is out there catchings with their hands. That would be silly.

    VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

    He knows the Oline is gonna collapse on him so he just gets the hell out of the way and b/c he has a gun, he can throw the extra ydg needed with that big of a drop back.

    Been pretty effective so far!

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “He became more like a footnote on Monday, traded to Oakland for a fifth-round pick in next year’s draft and a conditional pick in 2015″

    That sounds like 2 to me DUCK!

  • the famous dr robert

    Arizona Cardinals
    Placed G Jonathan Cooper on injured reserve. Released S Jonathon Amaya, C Adam Bice, WR Dan Buckner, DT David Carter, TE Alex Gottlieb, WR Charles Hawkins, G Senio Kelemete, LB Zack Nash, LB Colin Parker, TE Richard Quinn, G Chilo Rachal, S Curtis Taylor and WR Mike Thomas.
    Chicago Bears
    Released OL J’Marcus Webb and QB Jordan Palmer.
    New England Patriots
    Released TE Jake Ballard, DE Marcus Benard, TE Daniel Fells, WR Johnathan Haggerty, LB Mike Rivera, OL Luke Patterson, FB Ben Bartholomew, DL Gilbert Pena, OL Matt Stankiewitch and DL Scott Vallone.
    Philadelphia Eagles
    Placed DE Joe Kruger on the injured reserve list. Waived/injured CB Trevard Lindley. Released LB Everette Brown, DT Antonio Dixon, QB Dennis Dixon, DE David King, QB G.J. Kinne, OL Matt Kopa, WR Ifeanyi Momah, WR Will Murphy, OL Dallas Reynolds, LB Adrian Robinson and OL Matt Tennant.
    *********
    Webb and fells stand out.

    Lol. Jordan Palmer and Dennis Dixon released.

    Why did those names pop out?

  • Raider Dawg

    Stabler76 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:08 pm
    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 11:22 am
    McGloin is the best QB on our roster and has the most upside we should be starting him this season.

    ===

    I’m onboard with this. Move forward with him now

    *************************
    Upside like he is a candidate for gene therapy? They’ll splice his DNA with the of Peyton Manning and Walter Payton (we’ll call him Peyton Payton). He’ll be the ultimate dual threat QB. That is some upside! And he’s such a high-character guy. Aw-shucks.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “And if he ends up not playing, he won’t make the condition for the second draft pick and we will have only given up one.”

    Doesn’t matter to me….what matters to me is that our GM was wrong and it cost us!

    Reggie cant keep making these kinds of mistakes.

  • inonewordraider

    by the way

    great job on the play by play last night alex7, that was some good impartial info until I found it on radio thnx to raider r

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    “He became more like a footnote on Monday, traded to Oakland for a fifth-round pick in next year’s draft and a conditional pick in 2015″

    That sounds like 2 to me DUCK!

    ========================================

    If he makes the condition for the second pick. If he doesn’t, then it’s just the one.

  • the famous dr robert

    Lol. Pryor seized the qb position with his 9.9 perfoamce and his third sub 50 performance if the preseason?

    Ooookkkkaaaaayyyyy then.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “he is a candidate for gene therapy?”

    Now that is funny!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
    Am I the only one who watched last night and came away thinking Denarius just doesn’t care anymore?

    ====

    He cares a lot. About his health. With Pryor throwing he’s not about to put life and limb on the line in a preseason game. He’s already witnessed first hand Streater getting creamed game 17 last year in game 3 in this preseason waiting for ducks to land.

    Moore looked just fine on the 2 minute drill with Flynn at the helm. It did look like he missed a read on Flynn’s first int based on what DA said afterwards and how much shorter that pass was than the route. I don’t know if that’s lack of care or just lack of ability to read.

    Moore probably needs a Pryor like limited package of routes that are less read oriented. If that means he has to be the #3 WR that specializes on quick slants and deep routes so be it. In the base package, they might want a bigger WR playing opposite Streater anyway that is a better run blocker.

  • the famous dr robert

    If DA rolls with Pryor, he’s the biggest dunce in the nfl.

  • inonewordraider

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:05 pm
    Am I the only one who watched last night and came away thinking Denarius just doesn’t care anymore?

    _________
    you know what

    there was a dropped pass he had people were killin him over in here but when I saw it on delay it looked like the cb made a good play to break it up

    i’m not putting that one on him, although it did look like he screwed up another route

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 12h Most of the reporters who talked to Allen, Pryor and Flynn tonight think the starter against Indy is going to be Pryor. We’ll see …

  • elraidmanhattan

    Little guy is back! Will get to’silver in a bit. Watching insiders-what the heck is a field yates? Sounds like an agricultural tool. I appreciate him stating that menelik watson was starting at LT thanks.

  • raideralex99

    Seattle ran the same play 8 times BECAUSE the Raiders were committed to stopping the run which they did … Blame the DC for that.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur 12h Most of the reporters who talked to Allen, Pryor and Flynn tonight think the starter against Indy is going to be Pryor. We’ll see …”

    It wont matter who starts the first game…I would bet that you will see all three QB’s start a game this year.

  • the famous dr robert

    Well oakfashow is on board for Pryor so……..

  • GhostTooThePost

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 11:14 am

    ghost you have issue bra, lol

    both of those paragraghs that you repisted (for th 5th time) essentially say the same thing.

    Do i need to word them exactly the same way?

    what makes you think that any one besides inoneturd even cares about your critique of my phone call any way?

    callled the station, aired out the host called them out for being wrong and ended my call

    that is how sports radio works for the most part

    i know that you have never been able to call a show and call them out like i did either.

    envy is an ugly out fit
    =========
    No one needs a description on how simple radio calls work, you lying fool.
    Point is YOU stated you “own them” that you “reamed them” that they had “nothing in reply, and then you made your last comment and hung up”

    Facts were you were exposed as a liar.
    BY YOUR OWN WORDS, NOT MINE, YOURS.

    When I called you on your call, you backtracked.
    Stated what I did, forgetting you already posted a lie showing you made stuff up, to prop up your claims of “owning them”.

    Hey, small men backtrack.
    Except you got exposed.
    Right Nancy?

  • elraidmanhattan

    Dr. Thanks for the qb rating, that’s great didn’t realize that pryor would have to unseat bart starr, your
    Pathetic

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    NFL network Daniel Jermiah scout on 95.7 the game 1hr ago. says

    Daniel Jeremiah says the Raiders need to go with Terrelle Pryor

    http://media.957thegame.com/a/80254615/daniel-jeremiah-says-the-raiders-need-to-go-with-terrelle-pryor.htm

  • inonewordraider

    Webb and fells stand out.

    Lol. Jordan Palmer and Dennis Dixon released.

    Why did those names pop out?

    _____
    didn’t a certain poster on here say Dixon would be the backup for vick?

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Daniel Jermiah says Flynn is not NFL material even.. weak arm.. nothing to get excited about

    Says pryor gives the Raiders the best chance to win

  • elraidmanhattan

    Riaders will go 5-11 this year

  • the famous dr robert

    I wanna know DETAILS regarding readoption.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    spiff Says:
    post 517: the spaceman .
    ========================================================

    That was my assumption.

  • GhostTooThePost

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 11:17 am

    Inonewordraider Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 11:14 am
    so he said everything he wanted uninterrupted, but he also asked them why they’ve been pumpin up Wilson and Flynn with no mention of pryor yet even though he was unterrupted he was told to slow his roll?

    yikes
    ============================

    no

    i said everything i needed to say then ended my call, that is when the host then responded with ’slow your roll” and danced around the issues i raised

    you can believe slob if you like, just like you run with jfb on his takes on what i say

    it is a sign that you are desperate to side with anyone as way to ease the pain form the azz kickin i have laid on you since joining
    ==============
    Nancy?
    Are you confused, Nancy?
    It’s YOUR words we’re discussing, not what I say happened.
    You stated one thing.
    I called you a liar.
    You changed what you stated you said.

    Now, what can we deduce from this, Nancy?

    1)You’re a liar.
    2)You’re slow
    3)The name Nancy seems to suit you, just fine. :)

  • elraidmanhattan

    Webb sucks! Don’t you remember how cutler ripped him last year, he is a turnstile

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    inonewordraider Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Webb and fells stand out.

    Lol. Jordan Palmer and Dennis Dixon released.

    Why did those names pop out?

    _____
    didn’t a certain poster on here say Dixon would be the backup for vick?

    ====================================

    I’m waiting to hear from Debo. JaPaycheck worked out with two other QBs for the Bears. The two other guys were signed, and have now been cut. The Bears just worked out five more QBs yesterday.

    So much for the Comeback Train…

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    I think the best way allen will go with it.. is like the NINERS from last year

    Start flynn .and bring in PRYOR to swtich up tempo till he takes over. Plus he can get more reps.

    When u fall down 20-0 with flynn.. he wont bring u back.. put pryor in and he can provide a spark.

  • the famous dr robert

    Inonewordraider Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
    Webb and fells stand out.

    Lol. Jordan Palmer and Dennis Dixon released.

    Why did those names pop out?

    _____
    didn’t a certain poster on here say Dixon would be the backup for vick?
    ********
    Why yes. Yes he did.

  • raideralex99

    Am I the only one who though our Wilson had a good game … He stood in there and took all those late hits and complete eight passes in the short time he was in there.
    They better keep because I’m sure another team will pick him up.

  • elraidmanhattan

    Week 1 is shaping up as a 44-10 wipeout

  • the famous dr robert

    Elraidmanhattan Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:18 pm
    Dr. Thanks for the qb rating, that’s great didn’t realize that pryor would have to unseat bart starr, your
    Pathetic
    *********
    Lol. Pathetic for knowing football and using objective data to back my opinion, rather than continually stating a guy who routinely posts horrible numbers somehow “gives us our best chance to win”?

    Oooookkkklaaaaayyyyyy then.