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Allen knows Raiders QB, but he’s not telling

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Following a 22-6 loss to the Seattle Seahawks to close out the preseason, Raiders coach Dennis Allen was asked point blank if he knew who his starting quarterback would be when the regular season begins.

“I’m not telling you, but yes,’’ Allen said.

An anxious fan base will have to wait and see whether Terrelle Pryor or Matt Flynn will be under center when the Raiders play against the Indianapolis Colts on Sept. 8.

Based on how things went when Pryor subbed for a sore-armed Matt Flynn Thursday night before 67,341 fans at CenturyLink Field, it could go either way.

The Raiders finished the preseason 1-3 and Allen will turn his attention to trimming 22 players form the roster to get to the NFL limit of 53 by Saturday. Seattle is 4-0.

Pryor showed the running skills that make him such an intriguing option but struggled with his passing in a first-half performance which was limited to 19 snaps because Seattle moved at will against the Raiders first- and second-team defense.

With 45 yards rushing on three carries, including a 25-yard burst around right end and a 17-yard bootleg to the left, Pryor helped set up Justin Medlock for field goals of 45 and 37yards.

But when it came to pass, Pryor was 3 of 8 for 31 yards, an interception on an under-thrown deep ball to Jacoby Ford, and a miniscule 9.9 passer rating. Late in the half, when the Raiders took over with 3:52 to play, they went 61 yards without completing a pass _ not exactly a pro-style passing attack.

Allen thought the lack of rhythm in the passing game was at least in part due to having the ball for only 19 plays. Pryor was critical of himself over the interception, but otherwise thought he did OK.

The Raiders sat out center Stefen Wisniewski and right tackle Khalif Barnes, in addition to running back Darren McFadden.

“I didn’t have some of my guys, guys I was working with all week,’’ Pryor said. “I’ll get better. It’s crunch time now.’’

Allen said he will withhold an announcement of the quarterback “until the appropriate time’’, and when asked if he might wait until the season opener, said, “We’ll see.’’

Flynn, Allen said, is expected to be back at practice and ready to play Monday after resting his arm.

Neither quarterback was interested in lobbying for the job.

“I don’t really want to get into that,’’ Pryor said. It’s going to be coach’s call and whatever he thinks is best for the team. It’s all about the team, and if it’s me leading, I’ll lead to the best of my ability and we’ll get things done. If it’s Matt leading, then we’ll get things done too and I’ll support him.’’

Allen may know who the quarterback is, but Flynn said he had no idea and added, “I don’t know. We’ll wait and see. I can only control what I do.’’

Allen was able to find silver linings among the black clouds that found the Raiders scoring only 16 points in the first halves of the last three preseason games.

Most notably, Seattle had only 34 yards rushing on 17 first-half carries.

“We wanted to be a physical team in this game and really I thought we were,’’ Allen said. “ I thought our guys played with effort, I thought our guys ran around. We didn’t always play as smart as we needed to play.’’

Another bright spot was left tackle Menelik Watson, playing his first game at the position after only one padded practice. The second-round pick incurred no penalties and had no glaring mistakes.

“The first thing that comes to mind is I’ve got to get better,’’ Watson said. “There’s a few things comfort wise with the run game, that I got more reps at. I think I did a good job mostly just concentrating on the assignment and what I’ve got to do.’’

– Seattle starting quarterback Russell Wilson was 3 of 3 for 68 yards and a touchdown and Robert Hauschka kicked five field goals to account for Seattle’s scoring.

The Raiders were particularly vulnerable on rollouts and bootlegs with receivers breaking free.

– Running back Rashad Jennings had 53 yards on six carries including bursts of 9 and 32 yards on Oakland’s field goal drive before the half.

—- Wide receiver Brice Butler did not make the trip because of a hamstring injury and Sio Moore, bothered by a toe injury of late, also did not play.

– Mike Brisiel, who has struggled with his knee of late, played as the second-team right guard in the second half behind starter Lucas Nix.

– Rookie defensive end David Bass, a seventh-round draft pick, got good pressure and had one sack erased by a defensive holding penalty by linebacker Kaelin Burnett.

– It was the eighth consecutive year the Raiders have ended the preseason against the Seahawks. Seattle has won seven times, with the only Raiders win coming 23-16 in the only game played between the two teams in Oakland in 2010.

– Pryor on how he’s adjusting to the differences between college and pro football): “Accuracy. Timing with receivers. I think I’ve definitely gotten better with that. Making strides. Today I threw one to Rod (Streater), I believe, and he hadn’t come out of his break yet.”

– Flynn on if line struggles and his mobility hurt his chances to be the starter: “There are a lot of things we have been cleaning up protection-wise. A lot of it is miscommunications and things we need to get cleaned up.”

How Flynn would assess the preseason: “I felt there were a lot of good things. I don’t judge the preseason by just what happened in some of the games. It’s about seeing where you are as a player and a football team and I think overall things went well. We would have liked to put some better stuff on film game-wise but that’s what it’s for.”

– Chris Kluwe had a line-drive 44-yard punt that Walter Thurmond returned up the middle for 28 yards, but later had a 48-yard punt with good hangtime. Marquette King hit a 52-yard punt with a net of 41 on his lone punt.

Kluwe was the holder on Medlock’s 45-yard field goal, and King was the holder when Medlock connected from 37. Medlock was subbing for Sebastian Janikowski, who sat out the game with a calf injury.

“I think it’s been a good competition. I think both of those guys have done some good things and we’ll let you know at the appropriate time who we decide to go with,” Allen said.

– Allen said he planned all along not to play not to play Wisniewski, Barnes and McFadden. Free safety Charles Woodson sat out because he was ill.

– Lamarr Houston and Christo Bilukidi had sacks for the Raiders, who had their best penetration of the preseason from their defensive front. Rookie seventh-round pick David Bass had a sack erased on a penalty.

“This was the first time this preseason we were able to get our starting defensive line all together and I thought we did a nice job of stopping the run and really there was a couple of times where were able to get to the quarterback too and that was good to see,” Allen said.

–Not much to choose from in the battle for third quarterback between Matt McGloin (5 of 7 for 41 yards, zero points) and Tyler Wilson (8 of 12, 65 yards, zero points).

One of the more intriguing cuts the Raiders will make. McGloin had the better training camp and preseason, but was an undrafted free agent. Wilson was a fourth-round draft pick. Allen has stressed competition, but general manager Reggie McKenzie could well take that position that in projecting the players, Wilson will be the better player down the road.

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  • elraidmanhattan

    . Btw if tampa thinks they have a franchise qb, it is glennon not freeman he is gone after the season

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    You dont have to prepare for flynn if your the colts.. i mean lets be real now.

  • rediaR

    Elraidmanhattan Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
    . Btw if tampa thinks they have a franchise qb, it is glennon not freeman he is gone after the season
    ————————-
    You mean 2014 Oakland Raider Josh Freeman?

  • Jesus

    599.elraidmanhattan Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 12:23 pm
    Week 1 is shaping up as a 44-10 wipeout

    I really don’t think that Pryor will put up 44. I mean the colts D is bad but not quite that bad. I could see Pryor hanging 31 on them.

  • rediaR

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
    You dont have to prepare for flynn if your the colts.. i mean lets be real now.
    ————————
    I hope that’s what the colts are thinking.

  • Raider Dawg

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
    Announce Flynn starter.. but roll out PRYOR ..now that is how u keep teams off.

    But i doubt teams will really prepare for FLYNN..they are gonna practice for pryor and the run more .
    ***********

    Teams have to prepare for Flynn, otherwise the CBs and safeties will be following the WRs down the field and lord knows Flynn isn’t getting the ball that far down field. Teams will be in the “just let ‘em go at 20 yards” defense.

  • rediaR

    Raider Dawg Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
    Announce Flynn starter.. but roll out PRYOR ..now that is how u keep teams off.

    But i doubt teams will really prepare for FLYNN..they are gonna practice for pryor and the run more .
    ***********

    Teams have to prepare for Flynn, otherwise the CBs and safeties will be following the WRs down the field and lord knows Flynn isn’t getting the ball that far down field. Teams will be in the “just let ‘em go at 20 yards” defense.
    ————————
    I hope that’s what the colts are thinking.

  • Raider Dawg

    Breaking_Black Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
    The chiefs sideline reporter is way hotter than JT the Brick.
    ***********
    I find that awfully hard to believe.

  • Cripes

    Viewed as a role player coming into camp, Pryor is now a potential leading man.

    There’s little reason to believe the unit, which could have as many as nine new starters, can flip a switch at the beginning the regular season. Consequently the Raiders are going to have to be more dynamic on offense, which hurts Matt Flynn. His advantage over Pryor is his experience and efficiency. That, however, works against him if the offense is playing catch-up, particularly with a line that might be among the worst in the league (especially after left tackle Jared Veldheer was lost until at least the midseason with a torn left triceps).

    It’s little wonder that the word most often heard in the Raiders’ locker room after the game—and in private conversations with players beforehand—was playmakers. As in, We need them. Pryor is just that, even if the numbers from Thursday don’t reflect it. When he’s on the field there’s a feeling that something positive could happen. On any given play he could carry the ball 70 yards, and, unlike Flynn, he has the arm strength to stretch the field in the passing game.

    That’s critical because the Raiders sorely lack playmakers on offense. Running back Darren McFadden has the ability, but he has yet to play a full season since entering the league in 2008. Wideout Denarius Moore is another, but he tends to disappear for stretches. Running back Marcel Reece can pose a matchup problem for defenses in the passing game. There are no established threats beyond them.
    (Marcio Jose Sanchez/AP)(Marcio Jose Sanchez/AP) –
    Behind a stout line, with a stingy defense, the Raiders could make it work with Flynn. But that’s connect-the-dots stuff, and Oakland lacks the necessary dots. Which is why they need someone like Pryor, a 6-4, 233-pound signal-caller who can improvise on a broken play to create something beautiful, as he did on Thursday night when he gained 25 yards on a scramble.

    His rawness as a passer works against him, although he is improving. On Thursday he was hurt by a couple of drops, and his interception was the result of being late with the delivery on a deep pass down the sideline. Pryor attributed his tardiness to being inexperienced throwing to double-moves from the pistol formation, which is what was called on that play.

    While he will never be confused with Tom Brady, the Patriots icon with whom he worked out part of the offseason, he also should not be viewed as the newborn colt who stumbled around the pocket at Ohio State. His abilities as a passer, and his understanding of the passing game, have increased exponentially since entering the league two years ago. Much of it stems from his work this offseason with Tom House, a mechanics/movement coach whose clients includes Brady, Saints QB Drew Brees and Chiefs QB Alex Smith.

    His company, 3D QB, evaluates each athlete’s throwing motion and functional arm strength, then develops programs to help build on strengths and correct weaknesses. It also develops a nutritional plan for participants and creates a mental/emotional profile. Pryor spent roughly three months working with House, sometimes two and three times a week.

    “Pretty special kid,” House says of Pryor. “The awesome thing about him is that he made adjustments almost immediately. He was hungry. He was willing to give what we offered a shot. The combination of his willingness to embrace the science and make it a little bit better for him physically and mechanically turned into some positive feedback real quick.”

    For instance, Pryor learned that he was leaving his chest open, which made him late with his delivery. “So when I was coming down to throw with my left arm, my right arm was saying it’s time to go, the timing wasn’t right,” he said. “[House] kind of helped me with that.”

    “I tell all the great ones and those who strive to be great: Problem identification is half your solution,” House says. “If we have a toolkit to help you with your solution, that’s where the relationship builds. When we identified the few small problems that Terrelle had, and showed him the toolkit, it was unbelievable how quick he made adjustments. He’s very authentic. He can actually look at his strengths and weaknesses and learn how to make the adjustments. That’s what was cool working with him.”

    There will be growing pains if the Raiders go with Pryor. Their initial plan was to create a package of plays for him, many relying on his athleticism. But that has been adjusted in recent weeks. More is being put on his plate. Viewed as a role player coming into camp, he’s now a potential leading man. So much so that Allen got upset with him Thursday night for taking an unnecessary hit on a bootleg. That never would have happened last year, or even a few weeks ago in the first preseason games. But times are changing.

    Allen knows Pryor’s value is now greater than a dozen or so plays. He didn’t say as much Thursday night, but look for him to do so in the next few days. It’ll be the right call.
    http://mmqb.si.com/2013/08/30/terrelle-pryor-oakland-raiders/

  • elraidmanhattan

    703 i was thinking prior to this season about freeman, bright guy, mobile strong arm, it is a possibility.

  • Breaking_Black

    Raider Dawg Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:29 pm
    Breaking_Black Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:25 pm
    The chiefs sideline reporter is way hotter than JT the Brick.
    ***********
    I find that awfully hard to believe.

    Hahaha

  • RaiderKenny24

    Zymurge Says:
    August 29th, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    Pryor quote:
    “…Making strides. Today I threw one to Rod (Streater), I believe, and he hadn’t come out of his break yet.”

    Since he wasn’t sure who the WR was, I think this is probably the one to Moore. The announcers and the Brigade were quick to point the finger at the WR for a back shoulder throw. Per Pryor, he rushed the pass on a timing route. Sorry Brigade, scratch off that one in your fabricated list of excuses and so called several drops by receivers.
    ———————————

    Um… this is false. Pryor is making a reference to his improvement in regards to his anticipation/timing release of his throws before WR’s make their break,the particular route was a first down throw to Streater in the game. Not the dropped back shoulder pass from Pryor to Denarius Moore.

    Full unaltered quote with zero “pre-season QB battle spin” talkbacker spin…

    “On how he’s adjusting to differences between college and pros: Accuracy. Timing with receivers. I think I’ve definitely gotten better with that. Making strides. Today I threw one to Rod (Streater), I believe, and he didn’t even get out of his break yet. That’s just throwing with timing and understanding where he’s going to be at. He made a great catch there.”

  • RaiderRetribution

    One word I agree, twelve wins is conceivable.

    Indianapolis and Jacksonville could tell it all > 2-0 ten plus wins, 0-2 loss to Jax at home) = long season.

  • DutchRaider77

    WTF?
    Andrew Walter is running for congress?

    http://andrewwalter2014.com/

  • Cripes

    elraidmanhattan Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:24 pm
    …I think Flynn gets the nod, think about it getting paid quite a bit, pretty much down in the dumps. Does it make sense to let him mope on the sidelines? NO, it is strictly psychological, pryor will eventually take over
    ————————
    If Allen has to start Flynn to avoid him moping on the sidelines, then Allen needs to be let go. Start Pryor and allow Flynn to grow up.

    Or, Reggie needs to dump Flynn and eat the cost. He’s done enough of that, what’s another 6 mil gonna do other than make him and Allen look like dummies.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    You dont have to prepare for flynn if your the colts.. i mean lets be real now.
    ————————
    I hope that’s what the colts are thinking.

    ——————–

    u dont have to think. Turn on the tape.

  • rediaR

    Freeman and Our early 2nd/late first round QB throwing to Marquise Lee, Streater and Pryor.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Wow, i feel so disillusioned from you sandb ripping my knowledge, tears are forming in my eyes”

    Examine the syntax here and realize this is a person who claims to have a 150 IQ yet writes at a 8th grade level.

    smh

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    But I feel BJ DANIELS is benefiting greatly by having JIMBO Harbaugh as his HC.

    Any young QB would be in great hands with JIMBO. BJ Daniels gets to the Raiders and DA it would just be backyard football with him at this point

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Raider Dawg Says:
    You, sir, have some optimism! I haven’t even an ounce, unfortunately. Perhaps you can share?

  • poprox13

    Might as well start McGroin

  • the famous dr robert

    In 95.7:

    “Pryor had some success on the ground with 48 yards rushing but posted a paltry 9.9 passer rating”

    “Meanwhile Colin Kaepernick posted a near perfect passer rating…”

    Understand yet?

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Im not that big on marquis ..he is not aj green or Calvin, or even Julio. Thats high to take on a WR…he is good ..but seems more of a

    WC WR

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Teams will be in the “just let ‘em go at 20 yards” defense.”

    LMFAO

    This could be a real defense if Flynn starts!

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/

    Raider Dawg Says:
    You, sir, have some optimism! I haven’t even an ounce, unfortunately. Perhaps you can share?
    ======================================================

    Here. You can borrow this: Eternal Optimist

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Flynn wants to cash the check and let DA name PRYOR starter.. Warren Moon said he is not a gamer

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “Might as well start McGroin”

    I am in the Start McGloin camp!

  • jumpnjiminy

    Peace to you too supavillain.

  • RaiderRetribution

    Explanation easy, he is training to be our hail mary specialist.

  • raideralex99

    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
    How could Reggie thnk Tyler wilson was better over Quinton Patton or Kenny Stills in the 4th round?? how ??
    ————————————————-
    Some of the so called experts had Wilson rated as high as the #2 QB in the draft so getting him In the 4th round is a good pick.

  • mikep562

    THE 2013 RAIDER RECORD WILL BE:

    RAIDERMAN99 2-14

    SilverandBlack666 3-13

    Raider E 8-8

    The_Civilian_James_Trapp 0-16

    R8RFAN818 5-11

    jesusraiderjim 8-8

    KoolKell 4-12

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS 9-7

    CPT DAN 7-9

    PlunkforHOF 7-9

    pcraider 3-13

    Just Fire Baby 6-10

    The Big Banana 5-11

    Raider J 9-7

    oakfasho 2-14

    Chris in NY 3-13

    Cripes 2-13-1

    Raider O 4-12

    CDERaider 5-11

    The famous dr robert 10-6

    Dakota 2-14

    Raideretribution 3-13

    Relentless 3-12-1

    realtruraider 6-10

    J Hill 7-9

    M.Shorter 9-7

    24 6-10

    als hiemer 4-12

    jumpnjiminy 9-7

    R8RNAZ 8-8

    ENGLANDRAIDER 6-10.

    RaiderKev24 9-7

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist 17-2

    Oldtown 2-14

    Stabler76 1-15

    LTR 4-12
    —————————————————–
    put mikep562 12-4…dont see one d that can stop us in first 8 wks other than maybe kc…think we have easy schedule and allen, tarver and olson will pull some trix out of their sleeves…it was afterall preseason you guys…step off that ledge

  • rediaR

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
    “Teams will be in the “just let ‘em go at 20 yards” defense.”

    LMFAO

    This could be a real defense if Flynn starts!
    ———————
    I certainly hope so. We would crush in those games.

  • Raider Dawg

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
    WTF?
    Andrew Walter is running for congress?

    http://andrewwalter2014.com/

    *******************
    And he’s a Wing Nut. I always hated him. Of all of our QBs, I hated him the most. He of the 7 and a half minute throwing motion.

  • Jesus

    9.9 QBR vs. 17.4 QBR. What’s the big difference? Give me the guy who is exciting to watch.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Raider Dawg Says:
    Teams have to prepare for Flynn, otherwise the CBs and safeties will be following the WRs down the field and lord knows Flynn isn’t getting the ball that far down field. Teams will be in the “just let ‘em go at 20 yards” defense.
    ======================================================

    That won’t work. I bet McFadden can still chuck it!

  • jumpnjiminy

    Yay for McGloin! And you know what? I’d bet out of all the qbs we have, he is highest rated in the ‘intangibles’ category similar to a guy like Jim McMahon for the Bears back in the early 80s. Not flashy, but could move the team and WIN. Jim won the big one! Of course there’s the rather small matter of fact that Jimmy me boy had Walter Payton as his running back, but whatever…start McGloin!

  • RaiderRetribution

    One possibly two, if two then Flynn had a great season coming up.

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Some of the so called experts had Wilson rated as high as the #2 QB in the draft so getting him In the 4th round is a good pick.

    —————-

    Reggie doesnt listen to “experts” he watches game film. You could see on tape. STILL is playmaker. patton did what he always does.. see the niners game.

    we need a 1 WR and they would be close to it on this team. At least PATTON

  • Raider Dawg

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:35 pm
    “Wow, i feel so disillusioned from you sandb ripping my knowledge, tears are forming in my eyes”

    Examine the syntax here and realize this is a person who claims to have a 150 IQ yet writes at a 8th grade level.

    smh

    ***********************
    ETL
    English is his twelfth language! Give a brother a break!

  • Raider Dawg

    Raideralex99 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
    How could Reggie thnk Tyler wilson was better over Quinton Patton or Kenny Stills in the 4th round?? how ??
    ————————————————-
    Some of the so called experts had Wilson rated as high as the #2 QB in the draft so getting him In the 4th round is a good pick.
    *******************

    Given the QBs in this draft 4th or 5th is about right.

  • Raider Dawg

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:44 pm
    Raider Dawg Says:
    Teams have to prepare for Flynn, otherwise the CBs and safeties will be following the WRs down the field and lord knows Flynn isn’t getting the ball that far down field. Teams will be in the “just let ‘em go at 20 yards” defense.
    ======================================================

    That won’t work. I bet McFadden can still chuck it!
    ********************

    We’ve got another converted QB on offense too, I believe, though who it is escapes me. Hmmm. Ronald Curry is not on the roster anymore, right?

  • RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit

    Sports Illustrated ‏@SInow 37m Electrifying QB Terrelle Pryor gives the Raiders a better chance to win this season than Matt Flynn: http://on.si.com/1coKlzy (via @TheMMQB)

  • SnBG

    Mikep562 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
    THE 2013 RAIDER RECORD WILL BE:

    SnBG 6-10

    RAIDERMAN99 2-14

    SilverandBlack666 3-13

    Raider E 8-8

    The_Civilian_James_Trapp 0-16

    R8RFAN818 5-11

    jesusraiderjim 8-8

    KoolKell 4-12

    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS 9-7

    CPT DAN 7-9

    PlunkforHOF 7-9

    pcraider 3-13

    Just Fire Baby 6-10

    The Big Banana 5-11

    Raider J 9-7

    oakfasho 2-14

    Chris in NY 3-13

    Cripes 2-13-1

    Raider O 4-12

    CDERaider 5-11

    The famous dr robert 10-6

    Dakota 2-14

    Raideretribution 3-13

    Relentless 3-12-1

    realtruraider 6-10

    J Hill 7-9

    M.Shorter 9-7

    24 6-10

    als hiemer 4-12

    jumpnjiminy 9-7

    R8RNAZ 8-8

    ENGLANDRAIDER 6-10.

    RaiderKev24 9-7

    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist 17-2

    Oldtown 2-14

    Stabler76 1-15

    LTR 4-12

  • DutchRaider77
  • DutchRaider77

    Sorry…also TP and Matt Flynn interview.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “We’ve got another converted QB on offense too, I believe, though who it is escapes me. Hmmm. Ronald Curry is not on the roster anymore, right?”

    I am so old I remember when Ray Guy was our 3rd string QB.

  • SnBG

    Raider Dawg Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:46 pm
    Raideralex99 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
    RaidersAllday_LtsGeTit Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:18 pm
    How could Reggie thnk Tyler wilson was better over Quinton Patton or Kenny Stills in the 4th round?? how ??
    ————————————————-
    Some of the so called experts had Wilson rated as high as the #2 QB in the draft so getting him In the 4th round is a good pick.
    LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
    I don’t get the bashing of Wilson. At one time he was projected to go in the first rnd. He looked OK last night.

  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    Ducth are you going to the Jaguar game?

  • JLofty

    RaiderE:
    JL is going with 6-10. There’s a CHANCE our D is better than it looked in PS.
    Offense, doubtful…

  • Stabler76

    714.DutchRaider77 Says:
    August 30th, 2013 at 1:34 pm
    WTF?
    Andrew Walter is running for congress?

    http://andrewwalter2014.com/

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    He has the experience—- running for his life behind that pile of whipped cream that was the O-line that year.