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The utter catrosphe of cutting Tyler Wilson

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 1st, 2013 at 8:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Looks like the Raiders are toast.

They cut Tyler Wilson, the No. 112 pick overall in the NFL draft. No team has admitted blowing a draft pick to that extent (although there is a miniscule chance Wilson could return on the practice squad) and it’s being presented as evidence that the Reggie McKenzie era is destined for failure.

Maybe so.

It’s pretty embarrassing to cut fourth-round draft pick in favor of undrafted free agent Matt McGloin. If only they’d selected McGloin instead, McKenzie and Co. would look as if they knew what they were doing.

Probably not, though. The Raiders would have been trashed for that pick too. That’s the way it works when you’re in charge of a losing team.

Basically, anything the Patriots and Ravens do is brilliant, and a lot of other teams have a lot left to be desired. And that’s not wrong. You look to successful business models to forecast success.

The only thing that counts is results, so here are a few thoughts to keep in mind (or promptly disregard):

– Being the team that cut the highest pick (No. 112) is embarrassing and it’s a mistake. Could have found another player at a different position that could contribute, maybe even start, on a roster with limited talent.

– It’s not the end of the world, JaMarcus Russell-style, not even close. Especially if McGloin performs to the level of the fourth-round pick Wilson was supposed to be. Teams whiff on fourth-round picks all the time. As colleague Steve Corkran pointed out, the Raiders dumped
Cal wide receiver Dameane Douglas in the Jon Gruden era (a fourth-round pick) and third-rounder Quintin Moses after Rob Ryan proclaimed him “unblockable.”

Neither of those mistakes changed the course of the franchise.

– The Raiders draft, as of now, looks much better than it did a month ago, even with the Wilson whiff. The first two picks, D.J. Hayden and Menelik Watson, will be important parts of the opener against Indianapolis on Sept. 8. During training camp, it didn’t look that way.

If Hayden and Watson are flops this year, that will be the reason for the demise of McKenzie, not because of missing on a quarterback who wasn’t going to play this year anyway.

– Unless Wilson surfaces on another team and thrives as a starter, it’s no more than an annoyance. If he’s Brett Favre, drafted by the Falcons but dumped to the Packers, then the Raiders have to live with it.

– Wilson fared well in the offseason in the rookie minicamp, organized team activities and mandatory camp (although less so at each step) before floundering at training camp.

While the Allen was stressing “competition” throughout, the truth is that if Wilson had looked like the better prospect a year from now, he would have been the third quarterback. The Raiders can talk all they want about competing on the field, but McKenzie’s job is to project, and if he thought Wilson would be the better player in 2014, he would be a Raider today.

In terms of the way the Raiders have assembled talent since McKenzie arrived, they’ve got a lot to answer for if they flounder in 2013. The drafting and release of Wilson will be only one thing on a lengthy list.

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  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Oh gawd….spoke too soon!

  • the famous dr robert

    KoolKell Says:
    September 2nd, 2013 at 10:26 am
    The Haters were absolutely certain Wilson would replace Pryor

    One of them was Dr Retard.
    ********
    Fat lying idiot.

    I never made a connection between the two.

    Simply said Pryor SHOULD not be a qb on this team.

    Cut him. Trade him. Convert him.

    Get him the fvck out from behind center.

    Cuz he’s the NFL’s worst passer.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    No. First of all, he hasn’t done anything.

    2nd, if they do start him, it will be contrary to what should happen and it will be a disaster.

    That’s the thing. Pryor starting means my Raiders will be the worst team in football and its a shame.

    U guys will laugh. For a brief time.

    Then realize how right i was.

    Too bad for the Raiders and people who want them to succeed rather only caring about watching a circus act.
    =============================================
    Yeah sure, Bobby.

    All these months. Thousands of comments from you.

    Getting cut. Getting traded. 6th string. Will never ever start.

    Yep, we’ll all realize how right you were.

    Oh yeah.

  • the famous dr robert

    @Jerrymcd: Raiders still have one spot left for practice squad. One option is Tyler Wilson if he clears waivers today.

  • 0ak r8rs

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    September 2nd, 2013 at 9:29 am
    The Raiders picked up G Antoine McClain and DT Brian Sanford off waivers.

    @@@@@@@@

    Thanks for the update, spammer. We knew that 24 hours ago.

  • RaidO

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    September 2nd, 2013 at 10:29 am
    KoolKell Says:
    September 2nd, 2013 at 10:26 am
    The Haters were absolutely certain Wilson would replace Pryor

    One of them was Dr Retard.
    ********
    Fat lying idiot.

    I never made a connection between the two.

    Simply said Pryor SHOULD not be a qb on this team.

    Cut him. Trade him. Convert him.

    Get him the fvck out from behind center.

    Cuz he’s the NFL’s worst passer.
    ————–

    Oh shut up. You were one of the Wilson OVERRATERS. Actually more like anything to bash Pryor

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    Got my own private T-Storm a few minutes ago.
    Flipped to the Weather Channel and the doppler showed a narrow band right over me SW to NE. Actually that’s when the power went off. But ten minutes later that’s what it showed, green for less than 5 miles either side of me with a yellow cell directly overhead.
    Looked outside, and damned if it wasn’t yellow.

  • the famous dr robert

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    September 2nd, 2013 at 10:30 am
    No. First of all, he hasn’t done anything.

    2nd, if they do start him, it will be contrary to what should happen and it will be a disaster.

    That’s the thing. Pryor starting means my Raiders will be the worst team in football and its a shame.

    U guys will laugh. For a brief time.

    Then realize how right i was.

    Too bad for the Raiders and people who want them to succeed rather only caring about watching a circus act.
    =============================================
    Yeah sure, Bobby.

    All these months. Thousands of comments from you.

    Getting cut. Getting traded. 6th string. Will never ever start.

    Yep, we’ll all realize how right you were.

    Oh yeah.
    **********
    It’s not over yet.

    And u display ur lack of depth by talking of my 6th string prediction as if it was a serious statement.

    U guys are such simpletons sometimes.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Dr Retard promised to leave the .blog if Pryor is named the starter. We should know shortly.

  • willy91137

    NJRaider16 Says:
    September 2nd, 2013 at 10:18 am
    Hope some of you will be able to cry yourself to sleep after watching TP and crew putting a wrecking ball on the Colts.
    =============================
    Crying myself to sleep I probably couldn’t get to sleep thinking about how good this team was going to be and how wrong I was
    I can only hope that happens but after watching preseason is pretty hard to imagine.

  • Bigmike34

    When will you people learn ….The Good Doctor…Is absolutely Right about Flynn/Pryor….

    Mike’s Prediction for sundays game.

    1) Pryor will Start If Flynn still is having trouble with his elbow…

    2) McGloin will Go in for Pryor after posting HORRIBLE NUMBERS….Either in the 2ond or 3rd Quarter…He will do much better than Pryor did.

    3) Flynn recovers by the Second Week and we then have a huge battle over who should start McGloin or Flynn

    4) The Raiders cut a Trade with the Patriots for Pryor…They get a 6th or 7th round draft pick or possibly a player in the Trade.

    5) The Patriots gives Pryor a Choice Convert to wide receiver or GET OUT….Pryor converts….And becomes an All pro WR/Slot Back within 2 years…

  • zopi

    Bill Romo in the Raiders the last pre-game TV show said that he would make everything that he could to make sure Pryor is named the starter, and if Junior and the Big Mac Zar refused he would do something about that. He said that Matty Flynch wasn’t even a back-up, a third stringer at best.

    Mighty harsh words for someone who also said that he stood next to Mac Zar on the sidelines during practice praising the future potential of Melenik.

    Can Romo influence the Mac Zar into getting Pryor the nod? Is the Mac Zar willing to eat having Flynch as a third stringer for a measly 6.5 M?

    A major conundrum created by the Zar Mac with his pet project Matty Flynch.

  • chuck

    We could have had a starter at another position of need and all the Reggie lovers can say is no scholarships.reggie could give up our next 3 drafts for a 7th rounder and all you would say is it was a weak class.

  • jumpnjiminy

    Hi! Start McGloin — your baptism by fire and watch after a few losses, he’ll get his bearings and we will win the Super Bowl this year!

    How exciting — oh and I’m known as a delusional clown but at least I’m optimistic!

    Also been called nuttier than a fruitcake btw…

  • chuck

    Bill Williamson for espn afc west blog said Reggie moves have been bad.he said when a team has poor talent level like the raiders your 4th rounder should start and a 7th rounder should make the team and it has also been said that the other gm think Reggie doesn’t know what he is doing.maybe everyone else is wrong except the 4 or 5 on this blog that think he can do any wrong.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Dr Retard promised to leave the .blog if Pryor is named the starter. We should know shortly.
    =============================================
    No, no, no.

    We don’t want Bobby to leave. Not until we’ve had our fun with him.

    Besides, we know that Bobby will NEVER leave.

    He won’t know what to do with himself.

    And he’s like herpes. Nah, Bobby isn’t going anywhere.

    And think of how much fun it’s going to be watching him squirm as he’s proven completely and utterly wrong about TP getting cut, being traded, switched to WR, being behind Wilson, McGloin and Padron, never ever starting a game. Yada, yada, yada.

    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

    It’s going to be great fun watching the worm squirm.

    ‘I didn’t mean it’.

    ‘I ALWAYS liked TP’.

    ‘I was right all along’.

    ‘You’ll see’.

    I WISH he left a long time ago, now I WANT him to stay.

  • chuck

    As for everyone who comes up with a different excuse as how we lucked into two straight 8-8 seasons hof coach bill parcels said that you are what your record says you are so I think he knows a little more about football than any of you.

  • http://www.psalm23sportswear.com omniscience

    The jury still out for me on DA and Reg either they know what they doing are they are idiots…

    I give a pass on last year since it was a inherited team it`s kind of like taking over a Company looking at your staff and make some moves.

    D.A could not come right in and fire all the Vets so last year he had to stick with what he had. Started to evaluate and seen Kelly and Seymore were lazy, Huff and Gio could not cover. Rolo was lost case ect so he started sending out Layoff letters. But kept guy`s like Adams , Ross, Stewart ect. Dudes that look like they want to play. So the positive I saw last year was towards the end of the year was still hustle on the field by the team. cut down in penaltys and player’s held accountable.

    The Negative He is a first year coach and the youngest in the N.F.L. Also the hiring of Knapp and Pollack which I put on Reg also but if you know the fact`s by the time the Raiders hired Reggie it was like a week after Superbowl. then he had to find a coach, then they had to find a OC and looking at the Texans.

    I believe the thinking was the best zone blocking OC and Line coach out there work for the Texans why not us when it failed and they seen McFadden not happy they sent them packing

    As for Reggie you all know the story look like he chopped all the high paid guys not doing crap brought in some younger guys on 1 year deals if you perform you will get paid plain and simple. So you can`t hate on that.

    last years draft and this years draft look like they have produced player`s that want to play only time will tell. We get all caught up with players like Bergstorm that was Reggie`s first pick ya a 3rd rounder he looked all right before getting hurt was going to make the team.

    And now he is replaced with a guard of wavers from the Ravens who knows may be better then Tony. So I believe these Guy`s may know what there doing only time will tell….

  • mantus

    The Pryor, Flynn debate isn’t about numbers or statistics. It’s about heart and motivation. Pryor has taken a step in the offseason and proved he’s motivated to be the best he can be. Pryor has a chip on his shoulder and its evident in the way he plays. I’m not saying he’s the best QB, I just believe he’s the right guy to lead a team that has a chip on its shoulder in general.

  • kuhlest

    to #13
    Mckenzie in all his glory and savvy will probably trade the 1st overall pick (Clowney) for a later 1st rounder an extra 2nd and a 3rd the following year…!

    we should get at least 2 1st rounders 2 second rounders and a mid round pick in this years draft…

  • Bigmike34

    Mantus

    So you think a Guy that Can’t pass should be our QB?…

    Why not Convert the guy to a WR where his enormous God given talents of Speed and Size That he does have can be used effectively for the betterment of the team….He is an Ideal WR…Candidate…He will never be The quality QB that we need…

    As it stands he is our version of Tim Tebow…But without the NFL Wins and inspiration that Tebow brings to the table.

    No one here has Seen Flynn in a Real game….But….We are convinced he is not very good….Despite the FACT that when given a chance he has been VERY GOOD..Just in Pre-Season his completion percentage has been 70%..

  • Bigmike34

    Pryor can’t pass well enough to be an NFL QB….His Completion % for the Pre-Season was 53.125%….IF HE STARTS…AND IS MISERABLE…and he will be miserable than Flynn will be the starter and

    Pryor will be done. Giving Pryor the Start is doing him no favor…He may last into the 3rd. Quarter…No matter what the press keeps saying there is no Raider announcement of who will start…I am still hoping that the very Young coach will wake up and stop giving in to the Press and the Minority of idiot fans o=========================================
    In his last NFL start with GB…(last of 2) Flynn threw for 480 yards and 6 TDs…QB rating of.. 136..

    Pryor in his only start last year was 13/28 (46.6%) for for 150 yards….70.8 QB rating Raiders lost to SD

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  • Bigmike34

    INSIDE

    Using your logic…The Raiders are obligated to start Flynn…Because they gave him 6-8 Million ..and they must at least Show what he can or CAN’T do….Other wise they make the biggest mistake possible in signing him….Far Greater then signing Pryor or Wilson

    They don’t have 8 Million invested in Wilson or TP who went in the 3rd round of a supplemental Draft…Passed over at least twice by every team in the NFL.

    Does anyone here believe that AL DAVIS was infallible…Never made a Draft Mistake …Well Pryor is a mistake and a mistake that is compounded every time we extend this experiment with him….Athletic talent Alone DOES NOT MAKE A Good QB….There have been many QBs with not a great deal of Athletic talent But rather have a Great Brain for football, An understanding of what to do when and how to lead…to be able to instantly read the defense….and respond appropriately…

    The willingness to put in hours of film study EVERY DAY
    Flynn puts in about 8 hours a day of just film study learning how the opponent will respond in different situations…what they do in various formations who the good pass rushers are and were they like to come from…

    The great QBs to day are not the most athletic People in the Game…Be it Rodgers or Manning (either one) or Brady etc…..The few that have Pryor’s Natural Abilities of size and Speed…Just are not great QBs…Michael Vick comes to mind Jamarcus Russell…Are two examples…

    Pryor has WR Ability Speed and Size and I suspect very good hands…He knows the offense fairly well and could make the transition ….I would love to see him as one of our Wide Receivers. For his Sake…He is not a QB…He doesn’t throw well enough…He will run at the drop of hat.. just does not stay in the pocket and step up to pass…He doesn’t look off the defense He doesn’t throw nearly as well on the run as Russell Wilson…

    WHO of the starting QBs in the NFL do you think TP is better than….How long has he been in Oakland…Is he really better at doing the things that an NFL QB needs to do…Is he anywhere near Even VICK in his QB abilities…..He doesn’t hold a candle to LUCK..OR …Kupernick…or ..Russel Wilson or RG3…and I don’t think anyone of you would say that he is…..His completion Percentage this Pre-Season playing against mostly 2ond and 3rd teamers is 53.125%….and that does not compare well to FLYNN’s 70.37%