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Notes, quotes and observations from Wednesday’s practice, locker room

ALAMEDA — A calf injury cost rookie Menelik Watson almost all of training camp. Now, on the eve of Watson starting at left offensive tackle for the Raiders in their regular-season opener against the Indianapolis Colts, Watson is battling a knee injury.
Coach Dennis Allen said Watson “tweaked” a knee in practice today. To that end, Watson was limited in practice, and his status for Sunday’s game against the Colts is up in the air.
If Watson can’t play Sunday, Allen said, veteran Khalif Barnes will take over on the left side, with recently signed veteran Tony Pashos replacing Barnes at right offensive tackle.
Barnes started at left tackle for his four seasons with the Jacksonville Jaguars. He has played right tackle almost exclusively during his Raiders career.
Left tackle continues to be a revolving door, of sorts, on the heels of entrenched regular Jared Veldheer suffering a torn triceps.
Once Veldheer went down, the Raiders tried veteran Alex Barron. That experiment bombed, with the Raiders releasing Barron last Saturday.
Watson started Oakland’s exhibition finale against the Seattle Seahawks at left tackle and held up quite well, though the competition and noise were mitigated somewhat by the meaningless nature of the game.

– The news is better concerning kicker Sebastian Janikowski. Allen revealed that Janikowski has been sidelined of late with a right calf injury and, more important, that his standout kicker will be ready to go against the Colts.
The Raiders signed Justin Medlock to kick for Janikowski against the Seahawks last Thursday night. They then waived Medlock two days later.
Janikowski was not at practice today. However, Allen wasted little time in saying, “He’ll be fine,”

– Tight end David Ausberry worked with a trainer off to the side today, while his teammates practiced on an adjacent field. It appears as if Ausberry’s injured shoulder is making progress, based on how he looked.
“I’m making progress every day,” Ausberry said. “It’s getting better, and I hope I’ll be able to play again real soon.”
Allen didn’t shed much light on the situation, as expected.
“I’m not going to make that decision yet,” Allen said, when asked if Ausberry is going to play Sunday. “He’s not ready to go, but I won’t have to decide on his status until later in the week. We’ll see how he continues to progress as the week goes on.”
Ausberry said he has to weigh the short-term gain of returning too soon versus the long-term gain of making sure he is at or near full strength upon his return.
He is the starting tight end whenever he’s healthy. If he can’t play, the Raiders will choose from among Jeron Mastrud and rookies Mychal Rivera and Nick Kasa. Mastrud likely will start if Ausberry isn’t able to do so.

– Colts coach Chuck Pagano spent the 2005 and ’06 seasons with the Raiders as their defensive backs coach. He worked under Norv Turner and Art Shell.
He said he enjoyed his time here, even though the Raiders won four games in ’04 and two in ’06.
“The most memorable moments were spent with Mr. Davis,” Pagano said of late owner Al Davis. “It was an honor to work under a man, a legend and an icon that he is and was. I learned so much from him.
“When my career is over and done, I’ll always look back on those moments. It was a great opportunity for me, a great two years. Everybody else would say that the opportunity was very unique. I am humbled by it and honored to have had that opportunity.”

– The Raiders boast 27 players on their 53-man roster that weren’t on the team last year. All but one will be making their Raiders debut Sunday, with safety Charles Woodson in his second go round with the team that drafted him in 1998.
That figure also might change if the Raiders make a roster move or two between now and Sunday, which is possible.
One potential move is with Veldheer. Allen said the Raiders aren’t in any hurry to decide whether to place Veldheer on the injured reserve/designated to return list.
Teams are permitted to use that designation once per season. They are expected to do so this season with Veldheer, but not until they are certain that Veldheer is going to be able to return at a reasonable time during the season.

– Fullback Marcel Reece (offense), defensive end Lamarr Houston (defense) and long-snapper Jon Condo (special teams) were voted team captains, Allen said.
Houston receiving the honor adds to the role that Allen and others envisioned their defensive linchpin playing this season.
“Lamarr was a guy that, going into the offseason, that we kind of pegged as a guy that we wanted to be a leader for this team,” Allen said. “He began to take a little bit of that role at the end of last year and he’s continued to improve in that regard as we’ve gone through the offseason and training camp.”

– Allen said one of the objectives of training camp was identifying a clear-cut, No. 1 wide receiver.
Allen and receiver Rod Streater stopped shy of saying whether the Raiders feel as if they achieved their stated goal.
“We have a lot of good receivers,” Allen said. “All those guys can step up and make plays. We’re happy where we’re at from the receiver position. We have guys that bring different elements and different strengths.”
Streater said all he knows is that he is a starter and that he is expected to make plays every game. Therefore, it doesn’t matter to him whether he’s considered the go-to guy or not.

– Few give the Raiders a chance to do well this season. That fact obviously isn’t lost on Allen and his coaches and players.
Still, it doesn’t change their approach or get them too riled up.
“The expectations in what we are as a football team will be defined inside this building,” Allen said. “That’s the only way you can look at it. We’re focused on doing the best that we can to continue to improve, and we’re really focused on how we’re going to try to win this game against the Indianapolis Colts. And that’s our only focus right now.”

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  • ElkGRaider

    Owners “intervene” on the average of once every 2-3 years, across the league.
    ————-

    Man…what a stat!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Raider O Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 10:51 am
    Chunky Monkey and Titty Monkey are killing this team. We finished 8-8 in 2010 and 11 (we did it with the worst DC in the league), and now we are looking at ANOTHER 4-12 season, and some of You People think we improved?!?!
    You People are as clueless as Chunky Monkey and his Titty Monkey. CLUELESS!!!
    =================

    dont under estimate the pryor affect

    he will win us 6 or more games this year

  • hwnrdr

    Mistic, that is true!
    What art do you teach?

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Mark will make a huge mistake if he doesn’t fire Chunky Monkey and his titty monkey after this season.

  • jesusraiderjim

    OG Raider Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 10:15 am
    Would you start Luck over Brees in your fantasy league this week?
    *************************************************

    I would start Brees over just about anyone all season long!!

    Silly Monkey

  • ElkGRaider

    Mark will make a huge mistake if he doesn’t fire Chunky Monkey and his titty monkey after this season.
    —————

    I get a funny feeling you want him fired so u can come up with new nicknames…

  • jonathaanv_

    Get your prediction in or change your existing prediction. All predictions are final about 75 hours from now. Remember, anyone predicting the win total exactly earns the right to talk trash and wins an autographed Tits Allen over the shoulder boulder holder. Tits says he knows but ain’t saying, don’t be stupid like Tits – ADD OR CHANGE YOUR PREDICTION.
    COPY AND PASTE THOSE PREDICTIONS IN.

    THE 2013 RAIDER RECORD WILL BE:

    SnBG 6-10
    RAIDERMAN99 2-14
    SilverandBlack666 3-13
    Raider E 8-8
    The_Civilian_James_Trapp 0-16
    R8RFAN818 5-11
    jesusraiderjim 8-8
    KoolKell 4-12
    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS 9-7
    CPT DAN 7-9
    PlunkforHOF 7-9
    pcraider 3-13
    Just Fire Baby 6-10
    The Big Banana 5-11
    Raider J 9-7
    oakfasho 2-14
    Chris in NY 3-13
    Cripes 2-13-1
    Raider O 4-12
    CDERaider 5-11
    The famous dr robert 10-6
    Dakota 2-14
    Raideretribution 3-13
    Relentless 3-12-1
    realtruraider 6-10
    J Hill 7-9
    M.Shorter 9-7
    24 6-10
    als hiemer 4-12
    jumpnjiminy 9-7
    R8RNAZ 8-8
    ENGLANDRAIDER 6-10
    RaiderKev24 9-7
    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist 17-2
    Oldtown 2-14
    Stabler76 1-15
    LTR 4-12
    JLofty 6-10
    GhostTooThePost 2-14
    mikep562 12-4
    c2e 3-13
    Raidernationdave 4-12
    RaiderRockstar 10-6
    GG 7-9
    r8eray 5-11
    MEX_GHOST 9-7 -BRING BACK THE HATE!! (And the Kool-Aid)
    Jonathaanv_ 5-11 (bridgewater 2014!)

  • the famous dr robert

    Lol. Missdick won’t eat white foods. He thinks they’re racist.

  • The Big Banana

    There is nothing Eurocentric about GMO. In fact, Monsanto has decided it not feasible/profitable to do business in Europe

    GMO is an American specialty.

  • hwnrdr

    709.The Big Banana Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:01 am
    There is nothing Eurocentric about GMO. In fact, Monsanto has decided it not feasible/profitable to do business in Europe

    GMO is an American specialty.

    Unfortunately!

  • the famous dr robert

    Jonathaanv_ Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:00 am
    Get your prediction in or change your existing prediction. All predictions are final about 75 hours from now. Remember, anyone predicting the win total exactly earns the right to talk trash and wins an autographed Tits Allen over the shoulder boulder holder. Tits says he knows but ain’t saying, don’t be stupid like Tits – ADD OR CHANGE YOUR PREDICTION.
    COPY AND PASTE THOSE PREDICTIONS IN.

    THE 2013 RAIDER RECORD WILL BE:

    SnBG 6-10
    RAIDERMAN99 2-14
    SilverandBlack666 3-13
    Raider E 8-8
    The_Civilian_James_Trapp 0-16
    R8RFAN818 5-11
    jesusraiderjim 8-8
    KoolKell 4-12
    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS 9-7
    CPT DAN 7-9
    PlunkforHOF 7-9
    pcraider 3-13
    Just Fire Baby 6-10
    The Big Banana 5-11
    Raider J 9-7
    oakfasho 2-14
    Chris in NY 3-13
    Cripes 2-13-1
    Raider O 4-12
    CDERaider 5-11
    The famous dr robert 9-7/1-15
    Dakota 2-14
    Raideretribution 3-13
    Relentless 3-12-1
    realtruraider 6-10
    J Hill 7-9
    M.Shorter 9-7
    24 6-10
    als hiemer 4-12
    jumpnjiminy 9-7
    R8RNAZ 8-8
    ENGLANDRAIDER 6-10
    RaiderKev24 9-7
    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist 17-2
    Oldtown 2-14
    Stabler76 1-15
    LTR 4-12
    JLofty 6-10
    GhostTooThePost 2-14
    mikep562 12-4
    c2e 3-13
    Raidernationdave 4-12
    RaiderRockstar 10-6
    GG 7-9
    r8eray 5-11
    MEX_GHOST 9-7 -BRING BACK THE HATE!! (And the Kool-Aid)
    Jonathaanv_ 5-11 (bridgewater 2014!)

  • jonathaanv_

    I think the jags won’t be that bad this year hopefully the jets take clowney and we take bridgewater. If we take clowney it would be a big mistake. We need a qb and one really good. A monster pass rusher is good to have But what’s a good pass rush with a bad team that can’t put up points and a qb situation that’s been Bad for 10 years minus palmer.

  • hwnrdr

    Our record? 19-0
    How’s that for the Silver and Black falva kool-aid?

  • hwnrdr

    Seriously…I’m gonna say 8-8

  • the famous dr robert

    @VicTafur: From @BovadaLV the two most heavily bet NFL season totals are #Raiders under 5.5 wins and #Chiefs over 7.5

  • the famous dr robert

    @VicTafur: “@918Plank: DA standing behind his “I like this team” take from camp?” >> downgraded to “I like the demeanor of this team” yesterday

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    The Big Banana Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:01 am
    There is nothing Eurocentric about GMO. In fact, Monsanto has decided it not feasible/profitable to do business in Europe

    GMO is an American specialty.
    =====================

    euro centric meaning descendants form europe or those that classify themselves as white

    it isnt my folks that own monsanto or the cargil or tyson or ….the rest

  • the famous dr robert

    Imagine living ur life so consumed by skin color that it dominates everything u do.

    Sad. Truly sad.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Hwnrdr Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 10:55 am
    Until I see Sunday…I’m still holding on to “we will surprise people this year!”.
    —————————————————-
    That’s always my stance. After all, I am a Raider FAN!

  • RaiderRockstar

    im 6′ even and a lean 192 lbs with very little body fat

    ***

    gosh, Mistic

    when did this blog become Craigslist?

  • RaiderRockstar

    @VicTafur: “@918Plank: DA standing behind his “I like this team” take from camp?” >> downgraded to “I like the demeanor of this team” yesterday

    ***

    “Reggie hasn’t given me much to work with” – Dennis Allen

  • R8erEduc8er

    Jonathaanv_ Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:00 am
    Get your prediction in or change your existing prediction. All predictions are final about 75 hours from now. Remember, anyone predicting the win total exactly earns the right to talk trash and wins an autographed Tits Allen over the shoulder boulder holder. Tits says he knows but ain’t saying, don’t be stupid like Tits – ADD OR CHANGE YOUR PREDICTION.
    COPY AND PASTE THOSE PREDICTIONS IN.

    THE 2013 RAIDER RECORD WILL BE:

    SnBG 6-10
    RAIDERMAN99 2-14
    SilverandBlack666 3-13
    Raider E 8-8
    The_Civilian_James_Trapp 0-16
    R8RFAN818 5-11
    jesusraiderjim 8-8
    KoolKell 4-12
    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS 9-7
    CPT DAN 7-9
    PlunkforHOF 7-9
    pcraider 3-13
    Just Fire Baby 6-10
    The Big Banana 5-11
    Raider J 9-7
    oakfasho 2-14
    Chris in NY 3-13
    Cripes 2-13-1
    Raider O 4-12
    CDERaider 5-11
    The famous dr robert 10-6
    Dakota 2-14
    Raideretribution 3-13
    Relentless 3-12-1
    realtruraider 6-10
    J Hill 7-9
    M.Shorter 9-7
    24 6-10
    als hiemer 4-12
    jumpnjiminy 9-7
    R8RNAZ 8-8
    ENGLANDRAIDER 6-10
    RaiderKev24 9-7
    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist 17-2
    Oldtown 2-14
    Stabler76 1-15
    LTR 4-12
    JLofty 6-10
    GhostTooThePost 2-14
    mikep562 12-4
    c2e 3-13
    Raidernationdave 4-12
    RaiderRockstar 10-6
    GG 7-9
    r8eray 5-11
    MEX_GHOST 9-7 -BRING BACK THE HATE!! (And the Kool-Aid)
    Jonathaanv_ 5-11 (bridgewater 2014!)
    ——————————————————-
    R8erEduc8er ——–> 6-10

  • inonewordraider

    im 6′ even and a lean 192 lbs with very little body fat

    ***

    gosh, Mistic

    when did this blog become Craigslist?
    ________
    haha

  • The_Judge37

    713.hwnrdr Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:04 am
    Our record? 19-0
    How’s that for the Silver and Black falva kool-aid?
    ——-

    That’s not Kool-Aid, it’s white lightning.

  • RaiderRockstar
  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    dont under estimate the pryor affect

    he will win us 6 or more games this year
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Mistic,

    I hope so, but I doubt it. This staff didn’t want him to start. They did their best to keep Flynn as a starter, so I don’t think they created an offense that fits his strengths. They created a few plays but not an entire offense.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    sorry doc slob

    I follow an Afrikan wholistic meal plan / life style, it is best for my people.

    Most so called foods with white color are junk with very little or o nutritional value and equal death

    white flour, white sugar, salt, cows milk, and so on

  • RaiderRockstar

    Scott Bair‏@BairCSN 1m
    No Menelik Watson at the start of practice. #Raiders

    ***

    uh oh

  • RaiderRockstar

    I don’t think they created an offense that fits his strengths. They created a few plays but not an entire offense.

    ***

    @Raider O

    yeah, Pryor is still a “toy” in their minds – not a starting calibur QB

    perhaps the best of the worst, only due to his ability to escape pressure behind this dreadful OL

  • RaiderRockstar

    Jerry McDonald‏@Jerrymcd 1m
    No sign of OT Menelik Watson during warmups. Could mean Barnes at LT, Pashos at RT … Janikowski at practice ….

  • RaiderRockstar

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL 3m
    Kicker Sebastian Janikowski is back at practice. He is battling a right calf injury.

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL 3m
    Offensive tackle Menelik Watson is not at practice today. Paging Khalif Barnes.

  • raideralex99

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:18 am

    Most so called foods with white color are junk with very little or o nutritional value and equal death

    white flour, white sugar, salt, and so on
    ==============================================
    OMG … Mystic actually said something intelligent .

  • The_Judge37

    720.RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:14 am
    im 6′ even and a lean 192 lbs with very little body fat

    ***

    gosh, Mistic

    when did this blog become Craigslist?
    ——-

    Ever since our QB’s and WR’s have been posting on “Missed Connections”

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Raider O Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:17 am
    dont under estimate the pryor affect

    he will win us 6 or more games this year
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Mistic,

    I hope so, but I doubt it. This staff didn’t want him to start. They did their best to keep Flynn as a starter, so I don’t think they created an offense that fits his strengths. They created a few plays but not an entire offense.
    ============

    i agree this is why i say the onus is now on olson

    last season both the niners and hawks built and installed a hybrid offense mid season and found success

    it can be done depending on how good the coaches are.

    I am grading the staff an F so far, for the reasons you cited. we will see if they can improve by following the examples of sf and sea

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:19 am
    I don’t think they created an offense that fits his strengths. They created a few plays but not an entire offense.

    ***

    @Raider O

    yeah, Pryor is still a “toy” in their minds – not a starting calibur QB

    perhaps the best of the worst, only due to his ability to escape pressure behind this dreadful OL
    ====================

    teddy roosevelt lives and his policies die hard

  • the famous dr robert

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:18 am
    sorry doc slob

    I follow an Afrikan wholistic meal plan / life style, it is best for my people.

    Most so called foods with white color are junk with very little or o nutritional value and equal death

    white flour, white sugar, salt, cows milk, and so on
    **************
    yeah ok but u are aware that we so-called white people aren’t actually white, correct?

    do u hate all white things?

    envelopes, chalk, lines on the football field.

  • theghostronin79

    hwnrdr Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:04 am
    Our record? 19-0
    How’s that for the Silver and Black falva kool-aid?

    ========

    God Bless ya Brotha

  • the famous dr robert

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:18 am
    sorry doc slob

    I follow an Afrikan wholistic meal plan / life style, it is best for my people.

    Most so called foods with white color are junk with very little or o nutritional value and equal death

    white flour, white sugar, salt, cows milk, and so on
    *********

    what exactly is an afrikan wholistic meal plan?

    can i eat it too?

  • inonewordraider

    menelik better stop eating white foods and get his a$$ to practice!

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    I always thought Arabs were not white, but according to gov documents I’m White.
    I’m White!! Time to go F a few minorities. J/K

  • the famous dr robert

    GhostTooThePost Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 10:17 am
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 10:04 am

    “I prepared even back in my first year when Carson (Palmer) first came in, and last year when I was nowhere in sight to even play,” Pryor said. “I still studied, was in the room with him and tried to understand defenses and get better. Whatever the chance is, I’ll be ready.”- pryor

    give the young man some respect!!!

    even though he admits that the coaches were burying him he fought through the adversity and snubbs by allen and knapp.

    Now is his moment and he will get at least 6-7 games no matter how much he struggles.

    I LOVE IT!!!!!!

    fugg flynn palmer knapp allen and anyone else that tried to hold him back or was in his way

    PRYOR IS BY FAR THE SINGLE MOST TALENTED QB WE HAVE SEEN IN SILVER AND BLACK SINCE….POSSIBLY EVER

    best season ever and finally a qb worth watching since the dreaded collar bone curse fell upon this moribund franchise
    =========
    Since possibly EVER?
    Guess some missed that memo.
    This morning’s paper, Marc Purdy theory: “Most people blame a substandard roster for the Raiders failings, but I believe there are large magnets buried in the Raider turf at Oco, that influence the flight of magnet in-bedded balls. Just watch some of the ridiculous off-target passes thrown by Pryor this season, and tell me I’m wrong.”

    I’m just sure he’ll backtrack and apologize.
    Because, after all, Pryor is the best EVER.

    You got dropped a lot as a baby, didn’t you?
    MY theory is that your Dad, in his haste to slam that gloved fist in the air, yelling Black Power, in his Panther days, forgot he was holding you.

    Yes?
    ************

    hmm. if i said this, it would be “racist”.

    but it’s funny.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    @Raider O

    yeah, Pryor is still a “toy” in their minds – not a starting calibur QB

    perhaps the best of the worst, only due to his ability to escape pressure behind this dreadful OL
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    They are Clueless.
    Houston at RDE too?
    CLUELESS Monkeys!!!

  • raideralex99

    Jonathaanv_ Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:03 am
    I hopefully the jets take clowney and we take bridgewater. If we take clowney it would be a big mistake. We need a qb and one really good.
    ==========================================
    Remember when every scout said Megatron was a sure thing and the Raiders drafted their franchise QB.
    Some people never learned … Seriously the games are won in the trenches get a good OL and DL and any average QB will look great.

  • RaiderRockstar

    I always thought Arabs were not white, but according to gov documents I’m White.
    I’m White!! Time to go F a few minorities. J/K

    ***

    lol, Raider O

    you can start with Nelson Mandela. pull the plug on that old man already! he’s like the black version of Larry King! #justwontdie

  • RAIDERMAN99

    The famous dr robert 9-7/1-15
    =====================================
    One prediction only please.

    If you think the record will be drastically different depending on which QB starts, then you must determine which QB will start and/or how much you think each one will play – and base your prediction on that consideration.

    No ‘if’ contingency predictions.

  • MEX_GHOST

    Hey O!!

    Are the Mexicans white in the gov documents too???

    LOL

  • RaiderRockstar

    re: Nelson Mandela

    if they make 3 movies about you, before you die, you’re freaking old !!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:24 am
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:18 am
    sorry doc slob

    I follow an Afrikan wholistic meal plan / life style, it is best for my people.

    Most so called foods with white color are junk with very little or o nutritional value and equal death

    white flour, white sugar, salt, cows milk, and so on
    **************
    yeah ok but u are aware that we so-called white people aren’t actually white, correct?

    do u hate all white things?

    what exactly is an afrikan wholistic meal plan?

    can i eat it too?

    ==============

    how does what i eat equal hate?

    I used the term that is commonly used “white”. There are people that use that term to identify themselves, what it actually means is a mystery.

    maybe you can answer that one

    I have asked what it means and no one has an answer. Also i would like to know the purpose for identifying oneself as “white” in the first place. Does it help or harm, is there a benefit or detriment for doing so?

    its none of your business what an Afrikan wholistic life style is, it isnt for you.

    I dont follow the amerikkkan diet. the first three letters of the word diet are enough to keep me away. Die-t

    you can eat what ever you want im sure you put all kinds of strange things in your mouth as it is slob.

  • RaiderRockstar

    teddy roosevelt lives and his policies die hard

    ***

    @Mistic

    the Davis family goes way back with the Roosevelts.

    educate yourself!

  • RaiderRockstar

    its none of your business what an Afrikan wholistic life style is, it isnt for you.

    ***

    @Mistic

    i’m currently on that too. want to share recipes ??