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Raiders let one get away

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 8th, 2013 at 4:41 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders went from perceived as light years from contention to a play away from being in the national spotlight.

Instead, the Raiders self-destructed when it mattered most Sunday in a 21-17 loss to the Indianapolis Colts before 65,412 fans at Lucas Oil Stadium.

With first-and-goal at the 8-yard line and 1:13 to play the Colts finally managed to sack Terrelle Pryor, with Robert Mathis chasing him down for a 16-yard loss that put the Raiders in a goal-to-go situation from the 24-yard line.

Two plays later, Pryor was intercepted by Antoine Bethea _ just as he was intercepted by Greg Toler in the end zone on the Raiders’ first possession _ and the Colts had escaped despite generally being outplayed after going up 14-0 in early in the second quarter and threatening to make it a runaway.

“For us to start off down 14-0 and battle back the way we did and take the lead shows a lot about the characters of the guys we have in the room,’’ Raiders coach Dennis Allen said. “There are no moral victories in the NFL and we competed, but we didn’t get the thing done.’’

In the end, Luck’s 14-yard scramble through a wide open middle with 5:20 to play stood up as the winning points. He completed 18 of 23 passes for 178 yards and touchdowns of 12 yards to Reggie Wayne and 20 yards to Dwayne Allen and had no turnovers.

Luck was the more polished and efficient quarterback, but ended up praising Pryor, whom he called a “stud.’’

Allen did what he could to keep the identity of his starting quarterback for the opener a secret, but after Pryor completed 19 of 29 passes for 217 yards and a touchdown and rushed for 112 yards on 13 carries, there will be no such drama this week.

The rushing figure was a single-game franchise record for a quarterback.

Pryor’s own self-assessment was harsh. He called his performance “awful’’ and said of the sack at the 8-yard line, “I’ve got to throw the ball away. I’ve made the same mistake before and I can’t do that.’’

Still, Pryor had the Raiders in position to win against an opponent that won 11 games last season, and his supporting cast looked nothing like the team supposedly so short of talent and salary cap space it is couldn’t possibly compete with the upper eschelon of the NFL.

“If we just went on what the experts say, there would be no need for an NFL season,’’ cornerback Tracy Porter said. “We’d just go off the so-called gurus.’’

Instead, the Raiders out-gained the Colts 372-274, had two more first downs and were on the verge of sending the home crowd home in shock after Pryor got the Raiders to the 8 with a 41-yard pass to a wide open Jeron Mastrud and a 21-yard strike to Moore.

“Shoot, you look back at the first half, if we kick a field goal at the end of the half and don’t have that pick on the first drive and a get a field goal, we’re lining up and kicking it for the win,’’ center Stefen Wisniewski said. “It’s a loss, so it’s tough. But we’re certainly very close against a good opponent. It’s a good sign.’’

After the Colts went up 14-0, Pryor directed an 89-yard 11-play drive which included runs of 29, 13 and 9 yards, with Darren McFadden eventually scoring from the 1-yard line.

“They did a nice job with their scheme,’’ Indianapolis coach Chuck Pagano said. “And then when they drop back to pass and you think you’ve got him, we talked about keeping him in the pocket and contained. Those things are easier said than done.’’

While the defense was figuring out how to slow down Luck, the Raiders had two more possessions in the first half that looked promising but yielded no points. On the first, Pryor missed a potential big-play first down on third-and-1 to Marcel Reece, forcing a punt by Marquette King.

On the second, the Raiders made it the 30-yard line and Sebastian Janikowski missed a 48-yard field goal attempt after playing the entire 2012 season without missing an attempt inside the 50-yard line.

“We feel like we’ve got good players,’’ free safety Charles Woodson said. “We feel like if we put it together we’ll be able to go out there and stand with anybody toe to toe. We had a chance to win, we just didn’t pull it out.’’

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  • alex7

    that’s what screams bias to me from so many in here.

  • the famous dr robert

    Hey Alex. Got the stats for each of their first two starts?

  • the famous dr robert

    Alex7 Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:22 am
    that’s what screams bias to me from so many in here.
    ********
    Yep.

    After two starts.

    Pryor 70 rating.

    Flynn 92 rating.

  • Marks hair

    clearly Flynn has too many physical limitations. the coaches watch him practice and think this guy isnt worth the time..

  • the famous dr robert

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:22 am
    You keep hearing this?

    Of course and if he doesn’t, time to give another qb a shot.
    ********
    How many losses to start the season before we can go to another qb?

    4? 8? 12?

  • the famous dr robert

    Marks Hair Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:24 am
    clearly Flynn has too many physical limitations. the coaches watch him practice and think this guy isnt worth the time..
    ******
    Lie.

  • alex7

    Mark

    are you being serious or trolling?

    The coaches allowed FLynn to start the important game 3. He was their starter.

    Then, according to the COACHES, Flynn got hurt, and that’s why Pryor started game 4. And he certainly didn’t play well in game 4 to say he “earned” anything yet while Flynn is still hurt. What about this isn’t true?

  • Marks hair

    I don’t buy into those first two games. too small a sample with vastly different talent levels surrounding them.. you could post all the Hall of Fame quarterbacks first two starts and most of them will look like crap

  • Marks hair

    if you guys have a conspiracy theory for why you think TP is starting go ahead and say it…

    it just seems like most of the world sees one guy as a much better option for us.. and it isn’t Flynn

  • the famous dr robert

    U think he’s a good passer?

    I think he ever will be?

  • alex7

    the GB excuse cracks me up! :)

    “Flynn was only good in GB because he had better players!”

    “Pryor just needs better players around him!”

    Like the thought of putting better players around Flynn, where he’s proven more successful than Pryor in the past, is inconceivable.

  • realtruraider

    It’s confirmed, the Doc isn’t a Raider fan. He’s a Palmer fan who followed him with the trade. He then got what he calls addicted to this blog so now he is just here to stir schit up because he is a gawd damn addict who needs help

  • MiamiRaider78

    If Flynn was so good, he’d be starting somewhere, especially after those two record breaking games with the Packers…

    BUT HE’S NOT! Philbin passed on him, Carrol traded him and Tits didn’t start him as well. All these coaches know way more than any of you.

    End of discussion.

    Go Raiders, beat the Jags!

  • the famous dr robert

    Alex7 Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:28 am

    “Flynn was only good in GB because he had better players!”

    “Pryor just needs better players around him!”
    **********
    This is the crux of the hypocrisy.

  • the famous dr robert

    Realtruraider Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:29 am
    It’s confirmed, the Doc isn’t a Raider fan. He’s a Palmer fan who followed him with the trade. He then got what he calls addicted to this blog so now he is just here to stir schit up because he is a gawd damn addict who needs help
    *********
    Stupid

  • Marks hair

    how is it a lie flynns been given full time snaps in two camps and both times he pulled up lame.. its a check down o fence and his arm has tendonitis again.. it’s not just a week arm as in how hard he can throw.. it’s also not very durable.. then if you watch him he cannot handle pressure because he doesn’t really recognize it pre or post snap..

  • Orthodoxdj

    Well, let’s see…there are these guys called “coaches” who get paid to know which moves to make. They generally want to win and the generally means putting the best players on the field. They also have this thing called “practice.” That’s something none of us see. The coaches, though, they run the practices and they see everything. They even go back and watch the practices. Yes, the practices are recorded. Crazy, right?! Yeah, so, these coach guys see A WHOLE LOT MORE than the public sees. So, maybe, just maybe they know more than blog amateurs who have latched on to the backup.

  • the famous dr robert

    I want Raiders wins.

    I want production.

    Not excuses and game killing mistakes.

    I am the a raider fan.

    U celebrate close losses.

  • the famous dr robert

    Orthodoxdj Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:31 am
    Well, let’s see…there are these guys called “coaches” who get paid to know which moves to make. They generally want to win and the generally means putting the best players on the field. They also have this thing called “practice.” That’s something none of us see. The coaches, though, they run the practices and they see everything. They even go back and watch the practices. Yes, the practices are recorded. Crazy, right?! Yeah, so, these coach guys see A WHOLE LOT MORE than the public sees. So, maybe, just maybe they know more than blog amateurs who have latched on to the backup.
    **********
    Coaches are never wrong?

    Joe Bugel. Lane Kiffin. Art Shell 2.0.

    U sure?

  • the famous dr robert

    Marks Hair Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:31 am
    how is it a lie flynns been given full time snaps in two camps and both times he pulled up lame.. its a check down o fence and his arm has tendonitis again.. it’s not just a week arm as in how hard he can throw.. it’s also not very durable.. then if you watch him he cannot handle pressure because he doesn’t really recognize it pre or post snap..
    *********
    Cuz u have no evidence that the coaches don’t think he’s worth the time.

  • realtruraider

    Really though, when did the doc first show up? I don’t remember his clueless @ss ever posting here until after the Worst trade in history

  • Bull Balls

    Alex7 Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:22 am
    that’s the million $ question Mark.

    How does Flynn outperform Pryor in 2 NFL starts, have a better preseason until the Bears game where the coaches state he was injured…

    and suddenly he’s not worthy of the same developing chance as Pryor?

    despite a better history of success?

    ______

    Pryor has more upside. Flynn flattened out. TP more potential. More bang for the buck. Not my call. DA and Reggie’s choice. But I’m good with that.

  • MiamiRaider78

    Lame duck blogtards have a higher success rate of being wrong, compared to NFL coaches.

    For example, you said Flynn would start, no? :D

  • Orthodoxdj

    Should I trust a coach or an amateur blogger with an axe to grind?

    Hmmm….

    Tough call.

    I think I’ll go with THE COACHES.

    You’re so right, Doc. Flynn all the way. Pete Carroll is an idiot. Dennis Allen is an idiot. Everyone pulling for Pryor is an idiot. Matt “Noodle Arm” Flynn is the next Aaron Rodgers, but the mean ol’ coaches all over the league just have it out for him.

  • Marks hair

    1 team let him walk as a free agent. 1 teen traded him. And this coach gave him the job at the beginning of the preseason said it was Flynn’s job to lose and then took it away…proof

  • Marks hair

    still annoyed we didn’t try to trade for Boldin and talk him into being a Raider.. I know some people thought he was too high priced but I’d much rather have boldin then Flynn..

  • http://raiderettes.com MR..realest of the real, stickiest of the icky

    A lot of the great QBs made mistakes today. Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Terrelle Pryor…

  • MiamiRaider78

    Love all my real Raider family out there.

    Keep your heads up and support your team.

    Time to get back to reality of life.

    You should try it once in awhile, Doc.

    Go out, have a beer and get laid. Better to get attention from a woman than a bunch of men who can’t stand you on a blog, or your gayy catch phrase; show me or blow me?

    Same guy talking smack about the Beach Dog and his log. :D

  • alex7

    lol! so these COACHES you guys bring up…

    they say Flynn was injured in the Bears game…

    but, now we shouldn’t believe that?

    Make up your minds.

  • the famous dr robert

    Realtruraider Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:34 am
    Really though, when did the doc first show up? I don’t remember his clueless @ss ever posting here until after the Worst trade in history
    ********
    Preseason 2010 b1tch.

  • alex7

    “Coaches know more than you and they started Pryor! That means Flynn sucks!!”

    reality:

    Coaches say Flynn was injured in Bears game and that’s why Pryor started game 4 in Seattle, where he sucked. And Flynn is still hurt, according to the COACHES.

    You guys can’t even agree on whether to believe the coaches or not.

  • the famous dr robert

    Flynn sat behind Aaron Rodgers, one of the best of all time.

    Then behind Russell Wilson, a rookie who posted a 100+ rating.

    Why did DA go with Pryor?

    Stupidity? Mae Davis? Flynnjury?

    Who knows. Wrong decision.

    We should be 1-0.

  • alex7

    again Mark :)

    when did Flynn lose the job? When he was injured? Is that what you mean with losing it?

    So we agree he had outplayed Pryor according to the coaches up until the Bears game where the COACHES say he was injured.

    Glad we agree.

  • the famous dr robert

    MiamiRaider78 Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:35 am
    Lame duck blogtards have a higher success rate of being wrong, compared to NFL coaches.

    For example, you said Flynn would start, no?
    *******
    I said he should start.

    And he should. Better qb.

  • Marks hair

    Flynn’s fine he practiced the coaches decided on Pryor because he gives us a chance to move the ball and score..

  • alex7

    night all.

    Just remember:

    “Flynn was only BETTER in GB because he had better players!”

    “Pryor just needs better players around him!”
    **********
    This is the crux of the hypocrisy.

  • the famous dr robert

    Let’s see if we win next week.

    At home.

    Against the worst team in football.

    Let’s see if Pryor plays better. Or worse.

  • Bull Balls

    MR..Realest Of The Real, Stickiest Of The Icky Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:40 am
    A lot of the great QBs made mistakes today. Tom Brady, Eli Manning, Terrelle Pryor…

    _______________

    Sure they did. But I didn’t see Flynn winning any games for the Raiders either like some boldly predicted. The doc will come around. Alex7, not so sure. Pryor is destined for greatness. Raids gonna beat the Jags.

  • the famous dr robert

    Marks Hair Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:47 am
    Flynn’s fine he practiced the coaches decided on Pryor because he gives us a chance to move the ball and score..
    ********
    17 points.

    He also blows the game with choke picks.

    Great choice DA.

  • alex7

    weird Mark, because he shows up on the injury report.

    But yeah, Pryor gave us a great chance at scoring twice today.

    Then he passed the ball from the pocket :(

    And he went 3 for 8 vs Seattle.

    And he went 1 for 5 vs Saints… not seeing the “better chance.”

  • LondonAl

    A tough defeat. We were in at the end with a great chance to win but it was not to be. I thought we played good football at times and was pleasantly surprised by by both our offensive and defensive play. I am not happy with the loss but I am hopeful for the season.
    Go Raiders!

  • the famous dr robert

    Lol. Destined for greatness.

    Let’s see him win a game first.

    And stop losing them.

    I’m out too.

    Later Raiders.

  • JONTRAIN

    Always the same people in here.

    Pathatic

    GET A LIFE!!!!

  • Bull Balls

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    September 9th, 2013 at 12:45 am
    Flynn sat behind Aaron Rodgers, one of the best of all time.

    Then behind Russell Wilson, a rookie who posted a 100+ rating.

    Why did DA go with Pryor?

    Stupidity? Mae Davis? Flynnjury?

    Who knows. Wrong decision.

    We should be 1-0.

    _________

    We should be 1-0. Thank Jano for that boner. Toss in Olsons fcked up play calling at the end for good measure.

  • alex7

    or to dumb it down a little:

    Flynn: 9 TDs, 1 win, 2 starts
    Pryor: 4 TDs, 3 INTs, 0 wins, 2 starts

    Which guy, objectively, should we develop and try to surround with talent?

    Or can we at least agree that the first guy should get a SHOT when he’s healthy? :)

  • Marks hair

    well I’m sorry you can’t see what’s obvious to so many people..

    in other news McFadden bobbled an easy td and couldn’t catch all day long to save his life.. moore is completely untrust worthy and shouldn’t be starting.. ford is weak.. mustard is slow as molasses he should have had a touchdown.. and the offense of line gave up a ton of pressure as expected with three starters injured..

  • alex7

    In case you don’t understand what Bull Balls is saying:

    He’s mad at our OC for asking our QB to make a pocket pass.

    just once in a while.

  • Marks hair

    again Alex Flinn practiced he was healthy enough to start. remember the secret? yeah, we could have started Flynn but we chose not to because he isn’t very good.. it doesn’t matter how healthy Flynn gets he won’t play until TP gets hurt

  • alex7

    mark

    is it bad to agree with Pryor’s own assessment up there?

    Pryor said he was “awful” and has “made the same mistake before.”

    we’re just agreeing with him.

  • alex7

    Mark

    I know he practiced. And he’s on the injury report with an elbow injury. Kinda big deal for a QB.

    again, he has a better short history than Pryor and deserves a chance to develop just like Pryor, moreso if it matters to you that he’s had more success before – if our goal is to put talent around these guys.