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Allen won’t talk about Watson’s health

ALAMEDA — A report surfaced Thursday morning about Raiders left offensive tackle Menelik Watson undergoing surgery to repair some knee damage that he suffered in practice last week.
Raiders coach Dennis Allen said “no” Thursday afternoon, when asked if he would confirm the report. He added that it’s Raiders policy not to comment on a player’s health until he’s back on the field.
The report said Watson won’t be back for a month or so. Therefore, don’t expect any Watson updates for a while, given Watson isn’t in the locker room these days, either.

– Tight end David Ausberry didn’t practice Thursday, either. That makes it less likely that Ausberry will play Sunday against the Jaguars.
Allen typically prefers that players practice at least one day before a game for them to play in the game that week.
If Ausberry can’t play, Jeron Mastrud is expected to make his second straight start. Rookie Mychal Rivera also will see plenty of playing time.
Strong safety Tyvon Branch (shoulder) was limited at practice Thursday, one day after he missed all of practice because of an injury he suffered against the Colts.

– Linebacker Sio Moore was a full go at practice today. Therefore, it’s possible that he will start against the Jaguars, Allen said.
Moore is recovering from a toe injury that forced him to miss most of the opener against the Colts.
Allen said he envisions Moore and backup Kaluka Maiava getting significant playing time.

– Allen said he doesn’t care how the Raiders get their rushing yards, as long as the total is acceptable.
So be it, but there comes a time when the Raiders need to be able to count upon lead back Darren McFadden.
Against the Colts, McFadden netted only 48 yards on 17 carries. Overall, the Raiders amassed 171 yards rushing.
Allen said he is encouraged by the fact that the reason McFadden failed to bust off any long runs owes more to one or two guys not holding their blocks for long enough than it does anything McFadden did.
“It’s one or two guys being able to stay on their block longer, maybe hit the hole a little bit differently,” Allen said. “It was not a factor of breakdowns as much as just our ability to finish the play off and that’s what we have to continue to improve on.”

– Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver talked at length last year about the Raiders defense being “multiple.”
That never really materialized, for whatever reasons. Against the Colts, we got our first look at what Allen and Tarver envisioned.
Perhaps it’s Tarver now having the personnel. At some point, every one of the linebackers and defensive backs blitzed against the Colts.
“What we try to do defensively is to try to be multiple, try to be as simple as we can on ourselves, but give some different looks, bring some different people, make them have to account for everybody,” Allen said.
That’s what Tarver wants, for opposing offenses to wonder where the pressure is coming from on a given play, being forced to account for all 11 defenders each play.

– Tarver spent time earlier this week grilling offensive coordinator Greg Olson about the Jaguars offense and the players that remain from when Olson was the team’s offensive coordinator.
Tarver said, in particular, he got a better feel for which receivers quarterback Chad Henne likes to go to on certain plays and his strengths and weaknesses.
Olson said there’s only so much he can pass along given the offensive and defensives schemes changed in Jacksonville with the arrival of new head coach Gus Bradley.

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  • bcz24

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:02 am
    I think the Jags were a top 5, top 10 rushing defense last year as well.
    ****************
    They gave up 175 on the ground last week.

  • SnBG

    If yhe Oline doesn’t get fixed this year we will need to start drafting O linemen or getting a WR high in the draft won’t matter. It all starts with the O and D lines.

  • raiderjhawk

    KC’s passing game was awful against the Jags last week, however they were able to run all over them.

  • willy91137

    I had to change my password to get in my password wood not work the same password for one year and this ever happened anybody else

  • Whoknows

    Plunketthead Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 5:43 am
    Oak I agree nonetheless it is possible. At least Matt can operate with some protection and make short passes.

    Unless his arm is actually shot, who knows. I just see a few teams out there on the verge of disaster
    *********************************
    Since you asked, yes his arm is shot.

  • PlunkforHOF

    49ers/Sea – bet the ‘over’ – o/u is at 44.5

    ???????????????????????????????????????????

    Two very stout defenses.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    You’ve been posting for 1 year? What was your other alias?
    ______

    Willy91137 Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:18 am

    I had to change my password to get in my password wood not work the same password for one year and this ever happened anybody else

  • No Mas Diamante

    Short yellow bus getting full

  • PlunkforHOF

    OFFICIAL SEMI PREDICTION THREAD
    #1Winner – Gdog

    24 Raiders 34-12
    303Raider Raiders 21-14
    aig-raiders Raiders 24-14
    Alex7 Jaguars 23-20
    Arkraider Raiders 27-13
    Beach Raiders 24-16.
    boss01 Raiders 23 – 20/OT
    c2e Raiders 23-16
    Captain Skuttlebut Raiders 41-3
    Chris In NY Raiders 31-13
    Chuck Raiders 31-6
    Dakota Raiders 16-9
    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Raiders 48-10
    DJ Johnny Raiders 28-7
    eastoaklandraider Raiders 27-10
    elraidmanhattan Raiders 31-10
    ENGLANDRAIDER Raiders 20-17
    fingers Raiders 24-13
    Follow the B@uceman Raiders 27-16
    Gdog: 20-6 RAIDERS
    GG Raiders 41-6
    Grrrrrrr Raiders 24-17
    hendu Raiders 20-13
    HGDaddy RAIDERS 27-17
    Inonewordraider Raiders 20-13
    Jesusraiderjim Raiders 30-13
    J Hill Raiders 23-13
    JLofty Raiders 31-17
    jonathaanv_ Raiders 27-13
    Jumpnjiminy Raiders 24-17
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 16-14
    Kirk Raiders 21-14
    Lefty12 Raiders 23-14
    Lowdown_in_Beijing Raiders 30-13
    MachoManRandySavage Raiders 24-13
    Mantus Raiders 27-13
    MEX_GHOST Raiders 27-13
    Miamiraider78 Raiders 28-14
    No Mas Diamante Raiders 23-9
    0ak R8rs Raiders 16-14
    oklahomaRaider18 Raiders 23-10
    Plunketthead Raiders 47-3
    PlunkforHOF Raiders 35-9
    Qodrn1 Raiders 21-20
    Que Raiders 28-14
    Raider Dawg Raiders 23-17
    Raiderfusion Raiders 28-10
    Raiderjambo Raiders 31- 3
    raiderkoolaid Raiders 27-10
    Raider O Raiders 23 -13
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 28 –0
    RaiderRockstar Raiders 31-13
    RaiderFanMikeP Raiders 30 – 17
    Raidersfan727 Raiders 24-16
    Raidertalk Raiders 17-14
    RaidingTexas Raiders 30-10
    Reggie Fangaz Raiders 28-0
    Relentless Raiders 30-17
    RnoRaiderFan Raiders 38-17
    Romania Raiders 27-10
    rudegruden Raiders 27-13
    SilverNBlackPA Raiders 34–16
    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Raiders 35-7
    SnBG Raiders 17-10
    Spiff Raiders Raiders 27-9
    SR Raider Raiders 28-10
    Taiwan Raiders 27-13
    TheBigBanana Raiders 34-17
    TheFamousDrRobert Raiders 10-9
    Theghostronin79 Raiders 20-17
    troll hunter Raiders 17-13
    Whothefücknows Raiders 31-17
    willy Raiders 26-7

    SHORT BUS RIDERS

    909RaiderLifer Raiders 31-10
    M.Shorter Raiders 31-3
    r8dercain Raiders 31-10
    Raider Mayne Raiders 31-13
    RaidingTexas Raiders 31-10
    raiderlization Raiders 35-17
    rediaR Raiders 16-13
    Star Saturation Crumb Raiders 61-2
    STOMPER Jags 34-13

    This is the official thread accept no substitutes

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Again, (and again) here is the format:

    Your name (space) Winning team (space) final score

    ie:

    PlunkforHOF Raiders 35-9

    You don’t have to plug into the list, but if you type it that way it makes it much easier to do this list.

    Picking the Jags won’t get you on the retard bus, but wrong format will from now on.

  • PlunkforHOF

    * SnBG.. you’re still in there

    @ Mista.. willy’s been around for that long I think..

  • DJ Johnny

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 6:41 am
    I’ve been in a teleconference the last hour.

    Print on demand enrollment kits!!!!! Feel the energy!!!

    You doing the State Exchange stuff too?

  • willy91137

    MistaBrown Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:20 am
    You’ve been posting for 1 year? What was your other alias?
    ______
    =========================
    my password not my username I have never changed my username

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Just noticed him about 1 month ago.
    _____

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:22 am
    * SnBG.. you’re still in there

    @ Mista.. willy’s been around for that long I think..

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    Perpetual state of confusion.
    _____

    Willy91137 Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:24 am
    MistaBrown Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:20 am
    You’ve been posting for 1 year? What was your other alias?
    ______
    =========================
    my password not my username I have never changed my username

  • Marks hair

    we can find a guard in rd 2. we need a wr..

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    We can trade a kicker for a guard or WR.

  • inonewordraider

    SnBG Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:12 am
    If yhe Oline doesn’t get fixed this year we will need to start drafting O linemen or getting a WR high in the draft won’t matter. It all starts with the O and D lines.

    __________
    veldheer wiz Watson =oline pillars

    tp=qb of the future

    kasa rivera=te’s

    reece=fb

    hayden Jenkins=db’s

    branch=ss

    jano=k

    draft a stud wr or de with the first pick

  • the famous dr robert

    How come I’m not on the short bus?

    Aren’t those anti-Pryor (smart) people?

    Pryor = WR of the future!

  • r8eray

    PlunkforHOF Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:20 am
    OFFICIAL SEMI PREDICTION THREAD
    #1Winner – Gdog

    24 Raiders 34-12
    303Raider Raiders 21-14
    aig-raiders Raiders 24-14
    Alex7 Jaguars 23-20
    Arkraider Raiders 27-13
    Beach Raiders 24-16.
    boss01 Raiders 23 – 20/OT
    c2e Raiders 23-16
    Captain Skuttlebut Raiders 41-3
    Chris In NY Raiders 31-13
    Chuck Raiders 31-6
    Dakota Raiders 16-9
    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Raiders 48-10
    DJ Johnny Raiders 28-7
    eastoaklandraider Raiders 27-10
    elraidmanhattan Raiders 31-10
    ENGLANDRAIDER Raiders 20-17
    fingers Raiders 24-13
    Follow the B@uceman Raiders 27-16
    Gdog: 20-6 RAIDERS
    GG Raiders 41-6
    Grrrrrrr Raiders 24-17
    hendu Raiders 20-13
    HGDaddy RAIDERS 27-17
    Inonewordraider Raiders 20-13
    Jesusraiderjim Raiders 30-13
    J Hill Raiders 23-13
    JLofty Raiders 31-17
    jonathaanv_ Raiders 27-13
    Jumpnjiminy Raiders 24-17
    Just Fire Baby Raiders 16-14
    Kirk Raiders 21-14
    Lefty12 Raiders 23-14
    Lowdown_in_Beijing Raiders 30-13
    MachoManRandySavage Raiders 24-13
    Mantus Raiders 27-13
    MEX_GHOST Raiders 27-13
    Miamiraider78 Raiders 28-14
    No Mas Diamante Raiders 23-9
    0ak R8rs Raiders 16-14
    oklahomaRaider18 Raiders 23-10
    Plunketthead Raiders 47-3
    PlunkforHOF Raiders 35-9
    Qodrn1 Raiders 21-20
    Que Raiders 28-14
    Raider Dawg Raiders 23-17
    Raiderfusion Raiders 28-10
    Raiderjambo Raiders 31- 3
    raiderkoolaid Raiders 27-10
    Raider O Raiders 23 -13
    RaiderRetribution Raiders 28 –0
    RaiderRockstar Raiders 31-13
    RaiderFanMikeP Raiders 30 – 17
    Raidersfan727 Raiders 24-16
    Raidertalk Raiders 17-14
    RaidingTexas Raiders 30-10
    Reggie Fangaz Raiders 28-0
    Relentless Raiders 30-17
    RnoRaiderFan Raiders 38-17
    Romania Raiders 27-10
    rudegruden Raiders 27-13
    SilverNBlackPA Raiders 34–16
    Sir RaiderDuck, OMS Raiders 35-7
    SnBG Raiders 17-10
    Spiff Raiders Raiders 27-9
    SR Raider Raiders 28-10
    Taiwan Raiders 27-13
    TheBigBanana Raiders 34-17
    TheFamousDrRobert Raiders 10-9
    Theghostronin79 Raiders 20-17
    troll hunter Raiders 17-13
    Whothefücknows Raiders 31-17
    willy Raiders 26-7

    ——-

    r8eray Raiders 28-13

  • RaiderRockstar

    the Jaguars aren’t very good. There is no use talking them up. They will finish with the 1st overall pick.

    on top of lack of roster talent are some MAJOR injuries. brand new coaching staff. best they can hope for is 4-12, like us last year. They are a year behind us in the re-building phase.

    A loss at home to the Jags would be devastating!

  • willy91137

    MistaBrown Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:25 am
    Perpetual state of confusion.
    =============================
    Did your mother drop you on your head when you were a baby ?

  • willy91137

    ARaiderRockstar Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:35 am
    the Jaguars aren’t very good. There is no use talking them up. They will finish with the 1st overall pick.

    on top of lack of roster talent are some MAJOR injuries. brand new coaching staff. best they can hope for is 4-12, like us last year. They are a year behind us in the re-building phase.

    A loss at home to the Jags would be devastating!
    ===========================
    and would absolutely make me sick I would be pissed off till Thursday

  • SnBG

    Inonewordraider Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:28 am
    SnBG Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:12 am
    If yhe Oline doesn’t get fixed this year we will need to start drafting O linemen or getting a WR high in the draft won’t matter. It all starts with the O and D lines.

    __________
    veldheer wiz Watson =oline pillars

    tp=qb of the future

    kasa rivera=te’s

    reece=fb

    hayden Jenkins=db’s

    branch=ss

    jano=k

    draft a stud wr or de with the first pick
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    If all of you’re scenarios work out I would agree.
    If the Oline works out and Pryor doesn’t I say draft a QB. If Pryor works out but the Oline doesn’t then draft an Olineman. Pick up a stud FA pass rusher.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Attn: ray, Charlie, Zymurge, Bcz, jhawk, Dr Bob

    whats raiders def player u want for this week ??

  • RaiderRockstar

    Raiders best defensive player this week (at home vs Jaguars):

    Hwnrdr – Nick Roach
    Whoknows – Nick Roach
    Elraidmanhattan – LaMarr Houston
    PlunkforHOF – LaMarr Houston
    MistaBrown – LaMarr Houston
    SR Raider – LaMarr Houston
    Spiff – LaMarr Houston
    0ak R8rs – LaMarr Houston
    RNOraiderFan – Jason Hunter
    OklahomaRaider18 – Jason Hunter
    24 – Charles Woodson
    RaiderRockstar – Charles Woodson
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) – Charles Woodson
    Grrrrrrr – Pat Sims
    theghostronin79 – Pat Sims
    LA to TheBay – Pat Sims
    R8erEduc8er – Pat Sims
    SilverNBlackPA – Vance Walker
    SnBG – Vance Walker
    The Big Banana – Sio Moore
    M.Shorter – Sio Moore
    Edward Teach – Sio Moore
    HGDaddy – Sio Moore
    R8ER MIKE – Sio Moore
    Willy91137 – Sio Moore
    Papertiger418 – Kaluka Maiava
    Gdog – Kevin Burnett
    Plunketthead – DJ Hayden
    No Mas Diamante – DJ Hayden
    Inonewordraider – DJ Hayden
    Follow the B@uceman – DJ Hayden
    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist – DJ Hayden (???)
    Just Fire Baby – Tyvon Branch
    Jonathaanv_ – Tyvon Branch
    REALLIONAIREB – Mike Jenkins
    Twocents – Brandian Ross
    Raider Dawg – Chad Henne
    TheJudge37 – Chad Henne

  • PlunkforHOF
  • SnBG

    Why are some here hating on Porter. He had some tight coverage last week and had a good game overall.

  • PlunkforHOF

    Whack-a-Mole… I play by the rules, but in my opinion your short bus credentials are impeccable.

  • bcz24

    Let’s watch more than 1 game before we decide who we are drafting. Regardless we should draft the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE when we pick, regardless of position.

  • Violent Hands

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 6:37 am
    @VH

    what def player you want?

    Jenkins

  • RNOraiderFan

    Jags getting Bridgewater. Raiders should be picking in the middle of the round. No telling who will be there.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Gabbert = injured (will not play)
    Blackmon = suspended
    MJD = LisFranc injury, hasnt rushed for 100+ in a year
    Lewis = injured (will not play)

    Shorts = banged up

    they are trotting out a terrible offense fellas. awful. depleted. plus as I mentioned yesterday …

    Tony Sparano should know plenty about Chad Henne

    they were in Miami together for 4 years (2008-2011)

    then last year Henne had Greg Olson as QB Coach in Jacksonville

    if he burns a whole in our defense, we have a pretty pathetic coaching staff that doesn’t communicate well

  • RNOraiderFan

    I was unimpressed with our DB’s Luck just threw and completed some nice passes into tight coverage.Henne wwon’t be that good.

  • theghostronin79

    the famous dr robert Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:33 am
    How come I’m not on the short bus?

    Aren’t those anti-Pryor (smart) people?

    =============

    It’s nowhere NEAR that complicated man.

  • inonewordraider

    bcz24 Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:44 am
    Let’s watch more than 1 game before we decide who we are drafting. Regardless we should draft the BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE when we pick, regardless of position
    _________
    that’s not entirely true

    if pryors your qb and the bpa is a qb, you don’t draft the qb

    if veld is your lt and the bpa is a lt, you don’t draft the lt

    it’s really draft bpa that plays a position you don’t already have an entrenched long term starter in

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    If we lose to the Jags DA will have lost the locker room completely and that will be the end of his HC career.

  • RNOraiderFan

    Impressed with our DBs

  • theghostronin79

    There’s only

    2 – 3 ANTI-Pryor people

    2 – 3 ONLY-Pryor people……

    The rest are RAIDER people

  • SnBG

    I don’t see Jacksonvile beating us. Our D will be fine. It’s the O I worry about in this game if we have to be worried at all. Pryor is still a rookie QB in reality and he could make those red zone mistakes that will give the Jags a chance to hang in the game.

  • inonewordraider

    MistaBrown Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:51 am
    If we lose to the Jags DA will have lost the locker room completely and that will be the end of his HC career.

    __________
    wow

    I doubt it, because my guess is pryor is the kinda guy that’s gonna give it his all every game

    plus we gotta a lot of high character guys on one year deals, can’t discount the money motivation

  • SnBG

    RNOraiderFan Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:49 am
    I was unimpressed with our DB’s Luck just threw and completed some nice passes into tight coverage.Henne wwon’t be that good.
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    Well I would disagree as the DBs picked up there game and almost shut Luck down. He couldn’t drop the bomb on us and all and all it was a much improved secondary from last year and they will keep getting better as the yr goes along.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Jags WR Mike Brown is injured too.. will not play

    so the only “weapons” we have to account for are hobbled MJD and gimpy Shorts

    unless their DEFENSE scores some points or SPECIAL TEAMS – this game is in the bag. It should not even be close

    Raiders 31
    Jagoffs 13

  • Charlie

    RR

    I will go with Sio Moore. Has been full go in practice this week.

  • dplunk

    I’m hoping for a double-digit Raider win:…If this game is a dogfight, then the race for the first pick of next year’s draft will probably be a dogfight as well. :)

  • theghostronin79

    SnBG Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:53 am
    I don’t see Jacksonvile beating us. Our D will be fine. It’s the O I worry about in this game if we have to be worried at all. Pryor is still a rookie QB in reality and he could make those red zone mistakes that will give the Jags a chance to hang in the game.

    =============

    That’s what scares me. This game feels like it’s looming……

    They Better NOT loose this fu*kin game…..But they DAMN sure COULD.

    Way more pressure NOT to lose, than there ever was to go into Indy and give ‘em hell.

  • http://repealitnow.org MistaBrown

    When you understand what losing the locker room is comeback and let me know. Has nothing to do with money or Pryor giving 100%.

    Dumbsh!t.
    _______

    Inonewordraider Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:55 am

    I doubt it, because my guess is pryor is the kinda guy that’s gonna give it his all every game

    plus we gotta a lot of high character guys on one year deals, can’t discount the money motivation

  • SnBG

    I don’t know what some here are looking at when it comes to DA. I’ve heard so many players say they love the guy. Despite what we see on the sideline many players say he is very intense. I don’t see DA losing the locker room anytime soon.

  • Whoknows

    SnBG Says:
    September 13th, 2013 at 8:53 am
    I don’t see Jacksonvile beating us. Our D will be fine. It’s the O I worry about in this game if we have to be worried at all. Pryor is still a rookie QB in reality and he could make those red zone mistakes that will give the Jags a chance to hang in the game.
    ******************************
    Like it or not Pryor is the best player on the team, on either side of the ball.

  • RaiderRockstar

    @SnBG

    I agree with you on Dennis Allen.

    I think he’s doing a great job, considering the talentless roster given to him by Reggie

  • RaiderRockstar

    Raiders best defensive player this week (at home vs Jaguars):

    Hwnrdr – Nick Roach
    Whoknows – Nick Roach
    Elraidmanhattan – LaMarr Houston
    PlunkforHOF – LaMarr Houston
    MistaBrown – LaMarr Houston
    SR Raider – LaMarr Houston
    Spiff – LaMarr Houston
    0ak R8rs – LaMarr Houston
    RNOraiderFan – Jason Hunter
    OklahomaRaider18 – Jason Hunter
    24 – Charles Woodson
    RaiderRockstar – Charles Woodson
    Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush) – Charles Woodson
    Grrrrrrr – Pat Sims
    theghostronin79 – Pat Sims
    LA to TheBay – Pat Sims
    R8erEduc8er – Pat Sims
    SilverNBlackPA – Vance Walker
    SnBG – Vance Walker
    The Big Banana – Sio Moore
    M.Shorter – Sio Moore
    Edward Teach – Sio Moore
    Charlie – Sio Moore
    HGDaddy – Sio Moore
    R8ER MIKE – Sio Moore
    Willy91137 – Sio Moore
    Papertiger418 – Kaluka Maiava
    Gdog – Kevin Burnett
    Plunketthead – DJ Hayden
    No Mas Diamante – DJ Hayden
    Inonewordraider – DJ Hayden
    Follow the B@uceman – DJ Hayden
    Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist – DJ Hayden (???)
    Just Fire Baby – Tyvon Branch
    Jonathaanv_ – Tyvon Branch
    Violent Hands – Mike Jenkins
    REALLIONAIREB – Mike Jenkins
    Twocents – Brandian Ross
    Raider Dawg – Chad Henne
    TheJudge37 – Chad Henne