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Former Raiders players, coaches litter Hall of Fame ballot

By Steve Corkran
Thursday, September 12th, 2013 at 11:09 am in Oakland Raiders.

Ten former Raiders players and coaches are among the Pro Football Hall of Fame 2014 Modern-Era Nominees, with punter Ray Guy a Seniors Committee Finalist.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame revealed the list Wednesday night. Here is a list of the players and coaches with Raiders tied on the initial list:
RB Roger Craig, WR Tim Brown, OT Jim Lachey, C Don Mosebar, G Steve Wisniewski, DT Ted Washington, CB Eric Allen, CB Albert Lewis, coach Tom Flores and coach Jon Gruden. As we mentioned, Guy is a Seniors Committee Finalist.
The aforementioned players are among 126 nominees. In November, the list will be pared to 25. In January, that list will be reduced to the 15 finalists. Inductees will be announced the day before the Super Bowl.

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  • papertiger418

    From PFT:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/12/maurkice-pouncey-learns-the-hard-way-that-cut-blocks-are-dangerous/

    Pouncey done in by DeCastro on a friendly-fire cut block. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer team!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Papertiger418 Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:45 am
    There is a certain type of person in this world, an identity who regardless of social class or ethnicity
    =========================

    no one on earth is free to operate regardless of the the above factors

    no one

    i could be incorrect but i need proof before i can accept such claims as fact

  • the famous dr robert

    Btw, I am 50-50 on whether I expect to see Pryor crash back to earth, like he did after his “big” preseason game 3.

    He ultimately had a lousy game against the colts but so many people think it was great.

    I’m hopeful he learns but dear a 6-20 3-pick performance at home against the worst team in the nfl.

    Hope not.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    I will only be posting after games, unless there is big news.

    ========

    you mean under this handle right slob?

    you are of course always here under any number of your aliases

  • SilverNBlackPA

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:35 am
    I’m racist for being Pryor’s biggest fan in here since BEFORE we even drafted him??

    ++++++++++

    Ahem

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    KoolKell Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:46 am
    Stabler didn’t have a great Arm. But he was a stone-cold killer.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    E x a c t l y!

    The guy had ice in his veins.

    Mind you, Stabler may not have had a great arm but when he threw it, he often threw it with the accuracy of a dart player

  • rediaR

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:53 am
    Btw, I am 50-50 on whether I expect to see Pryor crash back to earth, like he did after his “big” preseason game 3.

    He ultimately had a lousy game against the colts but so many people think it was great.

    I’m hopeful he learns but dear a 6-20 3-pick performance at home against the worst team in the nfl.

    Hope not.
    ————————-
    If he runs well and the defense shuts down the Jags I wouldn’t be sure that 6-20 3 pick game isn’t called “good”.

  • the famous dr robert

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:52 am
    Papertiger418 Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:45 am
    There is a certain type of person in this world, an identity who regardless of social class or ethnicity
    =========================

    no one on earth is free to operate regardless of the the above factors

    no one

    i could be incorrect but i need proof before i can accept such claims as fact
    ********
    It takes strength, but it’s possible to not be a bigoted azz hole no matter what others see u as.

    U allow outside forces to dictate who u are and how u act.

    A good person doesn’t allow others’ views if them to affect them.

  • Gdog

    Nix just let Mathis run right by him for the sack that effectively ended the game. Sure glad Reggie didn’t draft Warmack… that -7 (2nd to last in the NFL at guard) cost us one game so far.

    Meanwhile Warmack is rated 11th in the NFL at guard. But hey… maybe Hayden will stop stinking the field up sometime too!

    Also, Pryor is one of the worst play fakers I think I have ever seen in the pros. He doesn’t even try to pretend he might be handing off. He has more fundamentals to work on than just his throwing mechanics. That said, he had some very nice passes on Sunday. I am very much pleasantly surprised.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Johnson had a really solid year when the Bucs went to the SB.

    But the bottom line is guys like Johnson and Dilfer aren’t getting to the SB without a dominating defense.

    If you don’t have a dominating defense, an average QB isn’t getting you to the SB.

    There has been VERY few exceptions to this rule.

    Rypien. Grossman.

    Once in a great while an extremely solid team with just an average QB will make it to the SB.

    Doesn’t happen too often.

  • NOLA Raider

    @49 Absolutely right. How in the heck is Lester the Molester not in the HOF? Stupid Anti-Raider bias.

  • dplunk

    MikieG Says:
    We will get who we want next year
    ******************************************************
    I will keep reminding everyone that the feeeling has to be Mutual!!, its not always about the money. not everyone wants to come to a romper room.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    shrek, how many hofers will he ever get? lol, only in the practice squad hof located in north dakota…

  • the famous dr robert

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:54 am
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:50 am

    I will only be posting after games, unless there is big news.

    ========

    you mean under this handle right slob?

    you are of course always here under any number of your aliases
    ********
    I have no other handles.

    U are a well known cross poster, as u bring in random never-before-seen handles to support u.

  • papertiger418

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:52 am
    Papertiger418 Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:45 am
    There is a certain type of person in this world, an identity who regardless of social class or ethnicity
    =========================

    no one on earth is free to operate regardless of the the above factors

    no one

    i could be incorrect but i need proof before i can accept such claims as fact

    ==========

    You are in fact incorrect, sir! Sometimes a$$holes are just a$$holes. They would have been a$$holes in a Tibetan monastery or during the Crusades or after World War 2. There is an inherent factor in being an a$$hole that allows them to blossom regardless of environmental factors.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:45 am
    MOST IMPORTANT STAT IS WINS..U CAN HAVE THE REST.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Seconded.

  • the famous dr robert

    RediaR Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:56 am
    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:53 am
    Btw, I am 50-50 on whether I expect to see Pryor crash back to earth, like he did after his “big” preseason game 3.

    He ultimately had a lousy game against the colts but so many people think it was great.

    I’m hopeful he learns but dear a 6-20 3-pick performance at home against the worst team in the nfl.

    Hope not.
    ————————-
    If he runs well and the defense shuts down the Jags I wouldn’t be sure that 6-20 3 pick game isn’t called “good”.
    ********
    Lol. By some.

    I’m fearing our only way to win is in SPITE of pryors mistakes.

    Great runner
    Better short passer
    Awful deep passer
    Mistake prone in clutch situations

    Ain’t nothin’ changed.

  • the famous dr robert

    Anyway, I’m already bored.

    Later Raiders.

  • The Big Banana

    Pryor haters…

    Dr Boob
    Alex7
    Zymurge
    Seymour Bush
    Silverandblack

    Rehabilitated…

    MR
    RaiderDuck

    The above does not take into account trolls under multiple handles, if it applies to the names above. I do believe we have some new haters that are clearly trolls, and as such are not worthy of the list.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    AWESOM READ!!!!! SAYS EXCATLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU BLOGTARDS FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS AND COVERS EVERY PLAYER I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING ABOUT!!!! INCLUDING PRYOR!!!

    ITS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE BIDGEZZ

    HELL MUTHAFUGGIN YEAH!!!!

    http://thebiglead.com/2013/09/11/the-nfl-is-entering-the-golden-age-of-black-quarterbacks/

  • alex7

    Thirded.

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:45 am
    MOST IMPORTANT STAT IS WINS..U CAN HAVE THE REST.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Seconded.

  • alex7

    Funny how Al Davis stopped drafting HOFers after Ron Wolfe left, yet Wolfe kept drafting them / trading for them in GB.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    dont believ in the teddy roosvelt code eh?

    what does currnet nfl wr stave smith think about it?

    Smith said there’s a lot of racial code when it comes to football. An “athletic quarterback” is a black guy, he says, and a “high-motor guy on defense” is white. Newton was pegged as an athletic quarterback coming out of Auburn for his size (6-foot-5, 250 pounds) and rushing ability (he rushed for 1,473 yards as a junior).

  • papertiger418

    Lester Hayes won’t ever get into the HOF, but he definitely deserves it. I can’t say I’m surprised but I’m disappointed nonetheless.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    most important stat is wins…da and shrek= 4-13, praying al davis’ guy can save them…

  • the famous dr robert

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    AWESOM READ!!!!! SAYS EXCATLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU BLOGTARDS FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS AND COVERS EVERY PLAYER I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING ABOUT!!!! INCLUDING PRYOR!!!

    ITS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE BIDGEZZ

    HELL MUTHAFUGGIN YEAH!!!!

    http://thebiglead.com/2013/09/11/the-nfl-is-entering-the-golden-age-of-black-quarterbacks/
    *********
    So what. U get no cred. Ur a blogger.

    U have nothing to do with it.

    Just a screaming little cheerleader at home jerking off.

    We all like the new qbs. We all know about them. Ur just a joke thinking that somehow their success means something for u.

    Ur life doesn’t benefit in anyway.

    Good for the black qbs. Good for the NFL. Good for everyone.

    Ur just one of the crowd.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Nix just let Mathis run right by him for the sack that effectively ended the game.

    ***

    @Gdog

    that is nowhere close to being accurate

    all 5 o-liners were blocking their tails off, plus McFadden.

    Barnes started with Mathis, then released to take on #52 Colts linebacker.

    I just posted the link of this replay on Monday – ask Jhill.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    The Big Banana Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    Pryor haters…

    Dr Boob
    Alex7
    Zymurge
    Seymour Bush
    Silverandblack
    ====================

    dont forget dakota jfb aig, innone word, mac but plugs 20, lofty ,lefty, ian 85, for starters but there are far more

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Sure, Snake operated behind a GREAT OL and had weapons galore – but anyone that saw Snake operate in his hey-day knows this guy was a stone cold killer with ice in his veins. Cool as a cucumber. Clutch.

    Yep, I’ll bet there are quite a few people that think Snake is in the HOF and would be very surprised to find out he isn’t.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If there are then they not paying much attention.

    Stabler, Plunkett, Branch and any other number of great Raider players are not in the HOF because of politics, regional bias, and because some people just had grudges against Al.

    Personally, I declared the HOF-as it exists-to be ineligible to BE the HOF until those guys are in it.

    Fuk the HOF, they can take their bias and shove it up their azz.

  • Gdog

    Lol. By some.

    I’m fearing our only way to win is in SPITE of pryors mistakes.

    Great runner
    Better short passer
    Awful deep passer
    Mistake prone in clutch situations

    Ain’t nothin’ changed.

    >>>>

    I think as the season goes on you won’t be saying he is an awful deep passer. Most of his “wow” moments in camp were deep balls.

    If anyone, especially you, thinks he has a better short pass, the job has been won for years to come.

    He couldn’t complete a short pass with velocity if his life depended on it vs SD last year. It was horrifying.

    He now just needs to clean up his fundamentals, like going through with a FULL play fake. Not ALWAYS running with it in the read option… etc.

  • the famous dr robert

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 12:04 pm
    dont believ in the teddy roosvelt code eh?

    what does currnet nfl wr stave smith think about it?

    Smith said there’s a lot of racial code when it comes to football. An “athletic quarterback” is a black guy, he says, and a “high-motor guy on defense” is white. Newton was pegged as an athletic quarterback coming out of Auburn for his size (6-foot-5, 250 pounds) and rushing ability (he rushed for 1,473 yards as a junior).
    ********
    We all know the old thoughts. U live for them.

    Most of us have moved on.

    Black prez. We don’t care anymore about what was said (or undoubtedly wasn’t) a hundred years ago.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Stabler’s stats are comparable to Namath’s. Both have a Super Bowl. Zero reason for Snake not to be in. Biggest joke in the HoF except maybe Cliff Branch.

  • RaiderRockstar

    Newton was pegged as an athletic quarterback coming out of Auburn for his size (6-foot-5, 250 pounds) and rushing ability (he rushed for 1,473 yards as a junior).

    ***

    @Mistic

    Cam Newton sucks. Terrelle Pryor is awesome.

    how many times do we have to go over this?

    Panthers will finish with the 2nd overall pick, behind Jags. Raiders are going 10-6 with TP2

  • papertiger418

    Looks like Josh Freeman is suffering from Jamarcusitis:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/12/schiano-says-freeman-missed-team-photo-has-been-late-for-other-events/

    Side-effects include lethargy addiction!

  • alex7

    Cam, Freeman, RGIII, Geno, EJ Manuel, Pryor

    = 1 and 5 record after week 1.

    Not sure about the whole golden age thing quite yet.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 11:57 am
    Johnson had a really solid year when the Bucs went to the SB.

    But the bottom line is guys like Johnson and Dilfer aren’t getting to the SB without a dominating defense.

    If you don’t have a dominating defense, an average QB isn’t getting you to the SB.

    There has been VERY few exceptions to this rule.

    Rypien. Grossman.

    Once in a great while an extremely solid team with just an average QB will make it to the SB.

    Doesn’t happen too often.
    ==================

    that was my point

    you dont make it and certainly dont win with a qb lpaying like trash

    no qb means no hope

    only sodomites like inoneword think otherwise

  • the famous dr robert

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 12:07 pm
    The Big Banana Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    Pryor haters…

    Dr Boob
    Alex7
    Zymurge
    Seymour Bush
    Silverandblack
    ====================

    dont forget dakota jfb aig, innone word, mac but plugs 20, lofty ,lefty, ian 85, for starters but there are far more
    ********
    Lol. Any doubt the blog rules missdick’s little mind?

    He has everyone memorized.

    Remember his “list”?

    Priceless.

  • RaiderRockstar

    new post

  • Gdog

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 12:06 pm

    Nix just let Mathis run right by him for the sack that effectively ended the game.

    ***

    @Gdog

    that is nowhere close to being accurate

    all 5 o-liners were blocking their tails off, plus McFadden.

    Barnes started with Mathis, then released to take on #52 Colts linebacker.

    I just posted the link of this replay on Monday – ask Jhill.

    >>>>

    Watch the play from the endzone with the coaches film.

    Nix’s assignment wasn’t Mathis, but his guy was taken out and Mathis nearly ran right into him… he ignored him to keep blocking his guy (who was already out of the play). It was moronic.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    So Doc Blowhard is only 50-50 on TP crashing ?

    I’d have thought he’d be 100% certain of it.

    I mean after all, he is the worst passer in the NFL.

    Doc Blowhard, even if TP does eventually crash and burn, that won’t change the fact that you were completely wrong about him being cut, traded, 3rd string, and never starting an NFL game.

    Your inability to understand that TP is by far the best option for THIS team to score points, shows you don’t have a clue about football or the RAIDS.

    You and the other myopians can blather on about QB rating and completion percentage until you’re blue in the face.

    You don’t know jack.

    You’ll be doing yourself and the blog a big favor if you keep your word about only posting on game day.

  • spiff

    funny coach flores should have been in the hall. I’m sure there are a few coaches of this modern day era like coughlin, tomlin ,there talking gruden, dude only won one . there’s still a bunch old timers who should be in like Charles haley and other pro football hall of fame is almost as bad as baseball……….

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    The Big Banana Says:
    September 12th, 2013 at 12:01 pm
    Pryor haters…

    Dr Boob
    Alex7
    Zymurge
    Seymour Bush
    Silverandblack

    Rehabilitated…

    MR
    RaiderDuck

    The above does not take into account trolls under multiple handles, if it applies to the names above. I do believe we have some new haters that are clearly trolls, and as such are not worthy of the list.
    ———————————
    The thing is the First big Cross-Poster here was Oakglenn, who now goes under Seymour Bush.

    Just sayin, most of the Trolls coinky dinky, agree with his views………………..

  • NOLA Raider

    I’m pretty sure that Miss Dick’s comment about the rise of the black quarterback would bring a tear to the eye of all black quarterbacks, mostly because they just want to be known as great quarterbacks. Do you really think that any of them want their success to be quantified against so stupid a metric as race? If so, you and all of your douchie blog suckers are much dumber than previously thought. Miss Dick, keep your blackjectives to yourself, along with the baggage attached thereto.

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  • romania

    Timmy, Ray and Tom!