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ESPN: Branch may have broken fibula

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, September 16th, 2013 at 10:25 am in Oakland Raiders.

Safety Tyvon Branch may have suffered a fractured fibula, according to an ESPN report Monday.

Branch left was helped off the field in the first quarter of Sunday’s 19-9 win over the Jacksonville Jaguars, with coach Dennis Allen saying after the game it was thought to be a “significant’’ injury.

The last time Allen used “significant’’ in assessing an injury, left tackle Jared Veldheer needed surgery to repair a torn triceps.

According to a tweet from ESPN’s Adam Schefter, “Oakland S Tyvon Branch suffered what Raiders say is “significant’’ injury thought to be a fractured fibula that will sideline him indefinitely.

Brandian Ross filled in for Branch against Jacksonville, with Usama Young also able to play both safety spots for the Raiders. Ross had a sack against the Jaguars and Young 1.5 sacks.

Allen is scheduled to meet with the local media at 1 p.m.

When ESPN reported that tackle Menelik Watson had underwent arthroscopic knee surgery last week, Allen declined to confirm, citing team policy.

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  • Raider Riff

    The Ty Wheatley Gruden offense.

    I doubt u know of that offense. Its a Raider-fan thing.

  • LA to TheBay

    537.Tumbleweed Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
    I tried all day to explain this to you good people. No one seemed to listen or care. So for the last time, I will make it clear, and easy enough for most to understand.

    DA kept TP2 quiet yesterday for a reason. You get that?

    OK.

    Next, Fox is going to think that’s going to be the DA/Pryor/Olsen MO. Got that?

    OK. DA is going to out smart Fox. (I know that sounds stupid, but its true)

    So what is going to happen is this.

    DA and Olsen are going to unleash Pryor like a storm. Fox is not going to know what hit him and those effed up Broncos.

    Pretty easy to understand? Hope so.

    ———

    You’re probably on to something here.

    It was too vanilla after such an intriguing game vs. Indy.

    Sort of worthless though,

    If Joe Schmo the fan can observe this… John Fox can’t?

    Then again…. Greg Knapp is still employed.

  • Tumbleweed

    Raider Riff Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
    537. Agreed.

    DA & co get nothing extra by trying to win by 40 and show their cards.

    Super conservative “setup” game. I like it.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thank You. Just trying to be a glass half full kind of guy unlike the glass half empty kind of guys.

  • http://www.raiders.com Raider O

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
    I think the Tebow and Pryor examples are perfect.

    Both guys who were uber successful in college, and not given the easiest path to success in the NFL with lots of doubters.

    Both entered the league better runners than throwers.

    Both struggle with accuracy and mechanics.

    Both are teammate and fan favorites.

    Both are hard-working, major quality people.

    QB ratings, W-L record, most passing stats are very similar so far through their first 3 starts each.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    You forgot to mention the most important part…. PASSING!
    Are you trying to tell us that Tebow and TP are similar passers?
    Tebow struggled to complete 50% of his passes.
    C’mon man….

  • alex7

    With both JC and Pryor…

    we’re simply waiting to see some passes travel more than 15 yards and land in a WRs hand, in stride. For big plays. Touchdowns even. Is that crazy?

    Because we can’t rush for 180 yards every game. Remember JC vs the 49ers? 10 QB rating. Vs Steelers? 20 QB rating. We get blown out vs decent teams if we can’t pass the ball.

  • JLofty

    All Pryor has to do is what the coaches tell him to execute and IMPROVE.

    and some of you idiots want to roast the kid for doing that….

    Ok he may never become another Dan Fouts. But I bet you he will try….

  • Dakota

    Now we are so good that we were holding back against the Jags?

    LMFAO!

    Oh man, that is some good stuff there!

    We will UNLEASH on Denver lol!

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
    LA To TheBay Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
    i have seen it and it was JC, and it was the same group of haters almost to a man….

    hmmmmmmmm very very suspicious

    —-

    I still contend Soup was whack and a game manager only. And scared.

    Pryor’s not scared. He sticks it in there and has major wheels.
    =================

    either way you have to admit that it is beyond suspicious that people trahsed jc for throwing for 150 yards in a win, and now also down on pryor for doing the same thing

    When the qb has no turn overs and the team wins he it be considered a solid effort
    =============================================

    Actually no. The point I made about Campbell that you refuse to acknowledge was in almost ALL of Campbells “wins” we ran for over 200 yards. I could be the Qurterback out there and have success if we are going to run for 200 yards. It is the same thing with RGIII. You laud the guy as the next coming but fail to acknowledge that Alfred Morris ran for 1600 yards as a rookie. That’s why you can put Kirk Cousins in, and their team does not miss a beat.

    With regards to Pryor, I have not wavered in what I have said about him: that he is a very suspect passer. And once again, as we saw yesterday, passing for 30 yards a quarter is normally not going to get it done. Especially in a passing league.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Denver picked by 14.5/15.5?

    Still looking forward to it.

    49½
    14½

    50
    14½

    49½
    14½

    49½
    14½

    49½
    14½

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Raider Riff Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:42 pm
    JonRitchie was just on the game.

    Said we are running the Gruden offense to a T.

    He loves it. Loves Pryor. Thinks we can be dominant.

    If u don’t agree, ur probably not a Raider fan.
    ==========

    thats funny because that is exactly what i said a few minutes ago, of course there were nothing but crickets here and no one dared touch it.

    i guess some of us here know what we are talking about

    see below

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:05 pm
    olson basically employed the same scheme that gruden did with gannon here. Dink and dunk passing and power run.

    that is what the game plan called for, pryor executed and the raiders won.

    Lmao haters still time to root for the broncos

  • Tumbleweed

    Then again…. Greg Knapp is still employed.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>I was joking our play calling was so conservative and futile at times yesterday that Knapp was the one doing the play calling. But it quickly hit me later on, DA is disguising something here.

  • aig-raiders

    either way you have to admit that it is beyond suspicious that people trahsed jc for throwing for 150 yards in a win, and now also down on pryor for doing the same thing
    ————
    BS!!!! JC rode the coattail of the team to those wins. Where TP is the primary reason we move the ball. DMAC does not get 100 yds yesterday if we had Matt Flynn back there. If you can’t see how obvious it is, then you’re just delusional.

  • alex7

    lol @ Raider O

    “Tebow struggled to complete half his passes.”

    Pryor vs Chargers: 10 for 22.
    Pryor beyond 15 yards: 1 for 9, 2 INTs.
    Pryor in college vs legit D’s: 48%
    Preseason? below 50%
    Pryor vs “not the worst team in the league”: 0 wins, 2 losses

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Seymour Bush Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:49 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
    LA To TheBay Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
    i have seen it and it was JC, and it was the same group of haters almost to a man….

    hmmmmmmmm very very suspicious

    —-

    I still contend Soup was whack and a game manager only. And scared.

    Pryor’s not scared. He sticks it in there and has major wheels.
    =================

    either way you have to admit that it is beyond suspicious that people trahsed jc for throwing for 150 yards in a win, and now also down on pryor for doing the same thing

    When the qb has no turn overs and the team wins he it be considered a solid effort
    =============================================

    Actually no. The point I made about Campbell that you refuse to acknowledge was in almost ALL of Campbells “wins” we ran for over 200 yards. I could be the Qurterback out there and have success if we are going to run for 200 yards. It is the same thing with RGIII. You laud the guy as the next coming but fail to acknowledge that Alfred Morris ran for 1600 yards as a rookie. That’s why you can put Kirk Cousins in, and their team does not miss a beat.

    With regards to Pryor, I have not wavered in what I have said about him: that he is a very suspect passer. And once again, as we saw yesterday, passing for 30 yards a quarter is normally not going to get it done. Especially in a passing league.
    ===============

    wrong as ususal bush

    Jc and rgIII were the reasons for such wide open running lanes for the rbs just as pryor is here now. Although they all have slightly different ways they get it done.

    pryor is completing 64.1 5 of his passes

    this is inaccurate? how so?

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    FRONT OFFICE TOLD ME THE RAIDERS/CHARGERS HOME AND HOME GAMES WOULD BE SWITHED IF THE A’S SCHEDULE CONFLICTS….

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Alex7 Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:52 pm
    lol @ Raider O

    “Tebow struggled to complete half his passes.”

    Pryor vs Chargers: 10 for 22.
    Pryor beyond 15 yards: 1 for 9, 2 INTs.
    Pryor in college vs legit D’s: 48%
    Preseason? below 50%
    Pryor vs “not the worst team in the league”: 0 wins, 2 losses
    ================

    pryor now 64.1 % cmp

  • alex7

    JLofty

    I’ll keep it simple.

    Pryor went from being allowed to take shots downfield in Indy…

    to handing the ball off on 3rd and goal from the 6, and again on 3rd and 9 despite our lead never being that big.

    We’re just not sure that’s “improvement” as much as it is “geez, he threw two bonehead picks, let’s not let him screw up again.”

  • alex7

    Notice Mistic praising Pryor for his check down 64% completions…

    while all preseason you roasted Flynn for doing the same…

    despite him actually not throwing picks vs Dallas or Saints.

    Odd, no?

  • JLofty

    For the love of all things holy Mioptic1, PLEASE don’t put Pryor on the same page (or career track) as Jason Campbell.

    We deserve SO much more. Pryor has a MUCH higher ceiling. And a MUCH better slide.

    Although I’d like to see Pryor hone his play action fake like Soup’s….

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
    either way you have to admit that it is beyond suspicious that people trahsed jc for throwing for 150 yards in a win, and now also down on pryor for doing the same thing
    ————
    BS!!!! JC rode the coattail of the team to those wins. Where TP is the primary reason we move the ball. DMAC does not get 100 yds yesterday if we had Matt Flynn back there. If you can’t see how obvious it is, then you’re just delusional.
    ==============

    jc managed the games and made big plays when needed

    yesterday pryor managed the game and made big plays when needed

    both played smart and limited turn overs

    jc was adept at the boot and play action which opened rush lanes for dmac

    pryor is adept at the boot and zone read which opens rush lanes for dmac

    more in common than you want to admit gradkowski lover

  • aig-raiders

    Pryor went from being allowed to take shots downfield in Indy…
    ————–
    and we effin lost that game. Had we played conservatively in that first drive in INdy and take the fg, we’d win that game at the end. There was no way the Jags O was going to score points on us and win the game. The only way they’d score is by TP turning over for pick 6. Olson had a perfect game plan that I called for all week long. Play conservative, pound the rock and control the clock. Same game plan this week.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Raider Riff Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:35 pm
    Teams are built to stop the pass these days. The rules dictate as much.

    They are not built to stop the run.

    We are built to run.

    We have a massive advantage. If u can’t get excited about that, ur not a Raider fan.

    ===

    Seattle did a pretty good job stopping the run last night of both the RBs and the QB. And then they went on to expose a QB that didn’t look very good in pass only mode. The same way he didn’t in the Super Bowl.

    I think defenses still have to play run first defense. Some are just better at it than others. The new passing rules over the past decade make it easier to get big yardage in the air so we’re seeing defenses shift more to deal with that. But in the end, championship teams are almost good at both running and stopping the run, so I don’t think it’s quite a lost art yet.

    On that note, it’s great that they are building a running team. The OL showed way more promise than probably any of us expected. Great execution by the guards. They were some of the best holes I’ve seen DMac run through in years. And what he does well is run through big holes really fast.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    JLofty Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    For the love of all things holy Mioptic1, PLEASE don’t put Pryor on the same page (or career track) as Jason Campbell.

    We deserve SO much more. Pryor has a MUCH higher ceiling. And a MUCH better slide.

    Although I’d like to see Pryor hone his play action fake like Soup’s….
    ================

    no doubt that pryor has way more all around talent than jc

    I am pointing out however that pryor pulled his best jc yesterday, being smart with the ball and allowing the team around him to make the plays.

    He doesnt have jc’s polish but he will be a far more dangerous player

  • aig-raiders

    JC never took ownership for any losses. TP does.
    JC never carried his team. TP does.

    Funny how you look at 2 black guys playing the QB spot and you think they are the same. I got news for you. This Asian dude thinks they are years apart on both end of the spectrum. TP can’t pass but his scrambling and pure athletic ability is what allows us to move the chains.

    BTW, How’s JC doing nowadays?

  • http://raiders.com Seymour Bush

    pryor is completing 64.1 5 of his passes

    this is inaccurate? how so?
    ========================================

    Oh, no, you are just as accurate as Terrelle Pryor. The problem is like Pryor, you are at the bottom of league. Pryor went for 4.75 yards per attempt in this last game. That would rank at the bottom of the league under any measure. Even average Q’s are going to throw for almost 50% per attempt. What that means is Pryor is not getting any completions down the field. And we have not even seen him try to go downfield in two games. Maybe once. So, as I have been saying, DC’s are going to begin to put the noose around his neck, just like they have with your “unstoppable” R/O, and exactly like you have done to yourself.

  • elraidmanhattan

    I stated earlier, game plan was to “game manage ” teaching pryor on the job, against the jags he did learn something, moreover that dmac isn’t done. Guarantee playbook wide open next week, going conservative won’t work.

  • Tumbleweed

    alex7 Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
    Notice Mistic praising Pryor for his check down 64% completions…

    while all preseason you roasted Flynn for doing the same…

    despite him actually not throwing picks vs Dallas or Saints.

    Odd, no?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pryor is the QB. Dude, get on board. Just say no to the hate. Search your feelings. You know this to be true.

  • JLofty

    Alex thanks for keeping it simple I’m sure that is helpful for keeping you on track.

    I failed to see the NEED to have TP slinging it around yesterday. We had a multiple score lead ALL day. Only thing would’a derailed that is turnovers. The kind TP DIDN’T make.

    So he did what the coaches wanted. That’s a GOOD thing in my book. But then I am not searching for any means to tear down things….

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
    Pryor went from being allowed to take shots downfield in Indy…
    ————–
    and we effin lost that game. Had we played conservatively in that first drive in INdy and take the fg, we’d win that game at the end. There was no way the Jags O was going to score points on us and win the game. The only way they’d score is by TP turning over for pick 6. Olson had a perfect game plan that I called for all week long. Play conservative, pound the rock and control the clock. Same game plan this week.
    ====================

    these clowns dont get it at all

    this isnt about what pryor can or cant do, it was about adjusting to what the defense did.

    more zone coverage and press the edges to contain pryor meant throwing short and into the middle of the field, while pounding with the run game. unlike the colts that blitzed and played lots of man.

    if any team decides to take their chances in more man coverage and blitzes then you will see pryor going deep and making scrambles

  • aig-raiders

    Moreover,
    JC was a first round pick that was afforded every opportunity to be DA MAN. TP was a 3rd round pick by a crazy old guy that was passed on repeatedlly by both black and white coaches/GM. TP earned his starting role. JC never earned his starting role in this league and when he has to earn them…he got beat out by Weeden.

  • RAIDERMAN99

    14.5 point dogs ?

    Tits is going to need all the ‘competitive advantage’ he can muster.

    Maybe Tits should refuse to announce TP as the starter and put the fear of God into John Fox by saying he’s considering unleashing the awesome weapon that is the mighty Matt Flynn.

    That should guarantee victory !

  • Whoknows

    At least with Pryor at QB all people can complain about is him and the punter.
    If Flynn was QB people would:
    Complain about the 15 sacks the O line gave up.
    Complain about all the points the D gave up, even though they were gassed from being on the field all day.
    Complain about DMac gaining negative yards because of 8 in the box.
    Complain about the coaches and RM because we got blown out 2 games in a row.
    Now those Flynn folks are free to complain about their lives or lack there of.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    Alex7 Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:54 pm
    JLofty

    I’ll keep it simple.

    Pryor went from being allowed to take shots downfield in Indy…

    to handing the ball off on 3rd and goal from the 6, and again on 3rd and 9 despite our lead never being that big.

    We’re just not sure that’s “improvement” as much as it is “geez, he threw two bonehead picks, let’s not let him screw up again.”

    ===

    Yep, pretty sure that Olson and DA are not going to let Capt. Telegraph (tm – but you all can use it here royalty free) throw that close to the end zone when the safeties are reading his eyes with all the anticipation of a teenage girl reading the latest vampire series.

  • http://www.psalm23sportswear.com omniscience

    The bottom line is you want to WIN GAMES Teams have to game plan for Pryor.

    Flynn game plan would be bring the house he will crumble…

    So with our new re-vamped D and a Ground game. I Think that gives us the best chance to WIN GAMES…. All that matters is the final score.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
    14.5 point dogs ?

    Tits is going to need all the ‘competitive advantage’ he can muster.

    Maybe Tits should refuse to announce TP as the starter and put the fear of God into John Fox by saying he’s considering unleashing the awesome weapon that is the mighty Matt Flynn.

    That should guarantee victory !

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL

  • bank-bank

    Dakota we have our QB for the future and its T.Pryor but ya just refuse to acknowledge it thats all.He’s young,big,fast and strong with alot of potential but ya refuse to acknowledge it.”RUE THE DAY”remember that.Oh my bad thats your saying.

  • jesusraiderjim

    Tumbleweed Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
    I tried all day to explain this to you good people. No one seemed to listen or care. So for the last time, I will make it clear, and easy enough for most to understand.

    DA kept TP2 quiet yesterday for a reason. You get that?

    OK.

    Next, Fox is going to think that’s going to be the DA/Pryor/Olsen MO. Got that?

    OK. DA is going to out smart Fox. (I know that sounds stupid, but its true)

    So what is going to happen is this.

    DA and Olsen are going to unleash Pryor like a storm. Fox is not going to know what hit him and those effed up Broncos.

    Pretty easy to understand? Hope so.
    **************************************************

    I was thinking along these same lines. Hope it is not me just being all KOOL_AIDED up. I did really have these exact thoughts.

    Pryor did much better on his read decisions but I did see at least one where the RB(whoever it was) could have run forever on a QB keeper. Sure one of our film guys will break it down.

  • Bigmike34

    Can we all fact the fact that it is almost impossible for us to beat Denver on a Monday Night….

    I said ALMOST…There is a tiny chance IF:

    We start Flynn…the only two games he has started against N.E. and Detroit he averaged 40 points a game for the two games…..He can ring the BELL…

    and it will take 40 points or More to beat Denver….

    We eventually will have to take a look at Flynn to see what he can do…..Pryor is fragile in his young career and he doesn’t need a Back Breaker like Denver on his record….GO WITH FLYNN

    I KNOW You don’t want to take Pryor Out…what if Flynn Won and then PRYOR would be out again….

    Do you Pryor People, really think, PRYOR COULD WIN….There is only a tiny sliver of hope with Flynn.

    Why have Pryor take the hit…

  • Gdog

    Bigmike34 Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    Can we all fact the fact that it is almost impossible for us to beat Denver on a Monday Night….

    I said ALMOST…There is a tiny chance IF:

    We start Flynn…the only two games he has started against N.E. and Detroit he averaged 40 points a game for the two games…..He can ring the BELL…

    and it will take 40 points or More to beat Denver….

    We eventually will have to take a look at Flynn to see what he can do…..Pryor is fragile in his young career and he doesn’t need a Back Breaker like Denver on his record….GO WITH FLYNN

    I KNOW You don’t want to take Pryor Out…what if Flynn Won and then PRYOR would be out again….

    Do you Pryor People, really think, PRYOR COULD WIN….There is only a tiny sliver of hope with Flynn.

    Why have Pryor take the hit…

    >>>

    Lol… uhh did you see Flynn in his last practice game??

    Good gawd.. talk about a QB knowing he is out of his league.

    The dude is DONE. Prolly out of the NFL next year, 2015 at worst.

    Pryor is horrible, but still better than Flynn or McGloin.

    Obviously… and a top 5 running game with a good defense still wins games in the NFL… and Pryor has the top PFF rating for running in QBs.

    Hey its what Reggie gave us…

  • Gdog

    bank-bank Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    Dakota we have our QB for the future and its T.Pryor but ya just refuse to acknowledge it thats all.He’s young,big,fast and strong with alot of potential but ya refuse to acknowledge it.”RUE THE DAY”remember that.Oh my bad thats your saying.

    >>>

    Anyone that can watch Pryor and then two hours later watch Kap and Wilson and say this with a straight face is drinking Pryor Koolade.

    He’s a bandaid at best.

    Kinda fun to watch though… I’d buy a ticket if I were around Oakland.

    Mark knows this.

    Deal with it.

  • Gdog

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 4:04 pm
    14.5 point dogs ?

    Tits is going to need all the ‘competitive advantage’ he can muster.

    Maybe Tits should refuse to announce TP as the starter and put the fear of God into John Fox by saying he’s considering unleashing the awesome weapon that is the mighty Matt Flynn.

    That should guarantee victory !

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL

    >>>

    That is pretty good.

    If they would start Flynn I wonder if they would even play Peyton? Game 17 early?

  • dirkdiggler

    after watching Manziel light up ALABAMA he’s looking like a top 5 pick. Raiders should think about it. 42 points on the bama isn’t a joke. peyton manning would have trouble doing that.

  • romania

    Hey England
    You’re invited to Riff’s.

    Us Eurotrash gotta stick together! lol

    can’t believe these stat people on this blog.

    without Pryor we get blown out by the Colts

    without Pryor we have many 3 and outs and get beat by the jags

    without Pryor, especially with our crap line, Flynn, etc is sacked 5 or more times in the first half alone, and we have no running game.

    without Pryor, no anticipation this entire season after the Colt game other that if we get the #1 pick.

    Only hope against denver is to keep them off the field on offense.

    We only have 6 punts in 2 games.

  • Bigmike34

    Gdog

    Did you see Pryor in his last Pre-Season game…and his only preseason game against any of the other teams starters and then only for a few series…

    9.9 QB rating …20% completion rate…9 yards total passing.

    I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT IN FLYNN’S LAST PRE-SEASON GAME HIS ELBOW FLAIRED UP….AND IT WAS VERY OBVIOUS…

    WHAT IS PRYORS EXCUSE…IN HIS TWO STARTS THIS YEAR HIS BEST QB RATING WAS 70…

  • Bigmike34

    I WILL SAY AGAIN

    IN HIS ONLY TWO NFL STARTS FLYNN HAS MANAGED TO PUT 40+ POINTS ON THE BOARD…..in EACH OF THOSE GAMES AGAINST ….NOT A JACKSONVILL TYPE TEAM BUT THE PATRIOTS AND THE LIONS.