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ESPN: Branch may have broken fibula

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, September 16th, 2013 at 10:25 am in Oakland Raiders.

Safety Tyvon Branch may have suffered a fractured fibula, according to an ESPN report Monday.

Branch left was helped off the field in the first quarter of Sunday’s 19-9 win over the Jacksonville Jaguars, with coach Dennis Allen saying after the game it was thought to be a “significant’’ injury.

The last time Allen used “significant’’ in assessing an injury, left tackle Jared Veldheer needed surgery to repair a torn triceps.

According to a tweet from ESPN’s Adam Schefter, “Oakland S Tyvon Branch suffered what Raiders say is “significant’’ injury thought to be a fractured fibula that will sideline him indefinitely.

Brandian Ross filled in for Branch against Jacksonville, with Usama Young also able to play both safety spots for the Raiders. Ross had a sack against the Jaguars and Young 1.5 sacks.

Allen is scheduled to meet with the local media at 1 p.m.

When ESPN reported that tackle Menelik Watson had underwent arthroscopic knee surgery last week, Allen declined to confirm, citing team policy.

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  • http://www.christianitydisproved.com/ Silverandblack666

    “For anyone that has any interest at all in coaching, I couldn’t recommend more strongly to give it a try. You might just surprise the hell out of yourself and along the way make a small difference in some kids’ lives.”

    I coached Jr High flag football in Brisbane a few years back so I know the feeling.

  • Plunketthead

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:33 pm
    How creepy is it that I just found out that Tebow and Pryor had THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF PASSING ATTEMPTS AND RUSHING ATTEMPTS in their first 3 starts
    **************

    Good find, semi. Put another star on your helmet.
    That is a scary stat

  • RAIDERMAN99

    The Flynnstones have a hard time admitting this, but the RAID offense would be virtually unwatchable without TP at QB.

    I don’t give a schit if you think TP is stop gap garbage or that Flynn has more potential.

    For THIS team, THIS year, TP is the ONLY way to go.

    Even the dim-witted Tits Allen came to this obvious realization.

    Only the dumbest of the dumb still want to see MF at QB.

  • Dakota

    Reading the Empire series by Conn Iggulden….man, good stuff! Can’t put the book down to get any work done!

    Between this blog and these books I might go out of business!

  • the famous dr robert

    dmc looked good on 4 runs.

    i will need to see much much more before i believe.

    my guess? he goes right back to sub-3 ypc.

    more bad luck for the Raiders.

    the coaches can’t tell who’s good, and the poor players they put in, do just enuff to keep themselves in.

    flynn/reece and we have a shot.

    pryor/dmc? nope.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    DutchRaider77 Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:45 pm
    Tebow had God on his side.If they started collecting a stat called Miracles I think Tebow set the all time NFL record in a short career.

    ____________________________________________________

    Not sure about that, if Tebow was a biblical figure…it would be Job. He is being tested.

    ===

    I’m pretty sure that Job didn’t start off with a miraculous W-L record. But then he was going up against God, with the Devil as the HC. Pretty stiff competition for a raw rookie.

  • LA to TheBay

    The wave of the future is coming.

    No, really.

    The most succesful QBs/offenses still rely on pocket passing and accuracy. But there is an obvious shift here.

    Pryor has WAY more speed than Tebow and is one of the NFL’s best athletes. And he wants to be great. And it’s not like he can’t throw, he just can’t make all the throws accurately yet.

    Will he ever be a 35/44 450 3 TD kinda guy? Probably not but then again, Mike Vick was a 15/25 175 passing yard kinda guy at one point in his career.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    436..,and you wonder why al liked the size speed weight ratio?

  • the famous dr robert

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:46 pm
    The Flynnstones have a hard time admitting this, but the RAID offense would be virtually unwatchable without TP at QB.

    I don’t give a schit if you think TP is stop gap garbage or that Flynn has more potential.

    For THIS team, THIS year, TP is the ONLY way to go.

    Even the dim-witted Tits Allen came to this obvious realization.

    Only the dumbest of the dumb still want to see MF at QB.
    **********

    just cuz u say it, doesn’t mean anything.

    the better passer is ALWAYS the better choice at qb.

    pryor takes us back to 1955, where running is 75% of the game plan and the “forward pass” is a gimmick.

    no thanks.

  • aig-raiders

    It’s like Randall Cunningham and Matt Flynn had a love child.
    ———–
    funny schytt. Good one bro.

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    The wave of the future is dictated by the rules of the game. The wave of the future is 400 yds passing per game, RB by committee, and 6’4 CBs.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    #453 – sign me up as the dumbest then. I’ll wear the title proudly.

    But seriously, the OL and D are looking much better than expected. I really want to see what Flynn looks like in that situation to truly know how much of a difference maker or hindrance that Pryor actually is by comparison. Without seeing another QB play, everything is just conjecture and heavily biased one way or the other at that.

  • JLofty

    I think Tyvon Branch injury going to hurt us more than one might appreciate at first glance.

    Difference between a completion or medium rushing gain and a HUGE play is often a matter of inches.

    Tyvon is a vet with wicked speed. Tough to replace a guy like that….

  • the famous dr robert

    new waver passer rating rankings thus far:

    vick #3
    wilson #8
    manuel #10
    griffin #17
    newton #20
    kaepernick #23
    pryor #28
    geno #32

  • http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com Sir RaiderDuck, OMS

    the famous dr robert Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:40 pm

    anyone who thinks pryor is doing well is obviously lying.

    =====================================

    Gotta love people who whine after a win.

  • Plunketthead

    Money had the beiber in his corner? He even walked out with him?

    I hope he loses his next fight for that blasphemy.

  • JLofty

    Zymurge, what exactly did you see in the pre-season that made you so high on Matt Flynn?
    I don’t hate the guy or have any agenda but he showed me VERY little in the way of what I want to see from my starting QB. Maybe some of that was him being hurt but for all the time he got to the lead QB, going with the ones, he looked pretty mediocre at BEST…

  • LA to TheBay

    Whatever wins us games.

    4000 pass yards doesn’t mean you’re winning games.

    Our defense is much improved and it looks like we’re stopping the run, not getting gouged in the air.

    If we’re the best running team (or one of the better ones), who cares?

    Stop the run, run the ball. Super Bowls have been won with this formula this century.

    And if the trend is 400 yard passers and 50 yard rushers? Let’s buck the trend.

  • Plunketthead

    I’m pretty sure that Job didn’t start off with a miraculous W-L record. But then he was going up against God, with the Devil as the HC. Pretty stiff competition for a raw rookie.

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    Actually Job was a very rich men with thousands of cattle and sheep and many children with land when Satan afflicted him

  • LA to TheBay

    geno #32

    Not part of the new wave. You’d have to include Andrew Luck too then.

    Geno can run but was not a running QB.

  • Dakota

    443.bank-bank Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:43 pm
    Dakota Pryor probably won’t win a playoff game for us right now we all know that but he’s getting alot of experience and thats what matter.You say lets move on but you don’t say that if T.Pryor was from Notre Dame and you know it.You love Claussen and Quinn those SCRUBS.SMH.

    ++++++++++

    Whatever, I am on record in here saying Russell was the pick over Brady Quinn, so there goes that theory. I would give Claussen another shot though as a backup QB.

    I am not a ND homer…..though Montana is clearly a better QB than Tom Brady…..and the Steelers and 49ers owe SB rings to Bettis and Watters, respectively…..and Tim Brown should have been a 1st ballot HOFer considering the number of HCs, new offenses, and QBs he had to play through during Al’s “Nero” age…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    The Famous Dr Robert Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:42 pm
    put the ball in pryor’s hands and let him run.

    that’s what a wr is for.

    as a passer, he’s awful.

    ===

    I was thinking about a crazy scheme that I’d like to see tried.

    Put Pryor in as a slot WR with Flynn under center. But use Pryor more like a wildcat back from that position. Some of the plays this opens up:

    - Pryor in motion opens up handoffs for end around, fake end arounds with throws, taking a direct snap when Flynn is in shotgun … all kinds of stuff that make it hard to know which guy has the ball and whether he’s throwing or running

    - Out of the slot Pryor can mix in short quick hitter routes with stepping back and receiving a sort of bubble screen throw. From there he can either run or throw. Then to mix it up he throws back to Flynn on the other side of the field who then hits someone else against a defense that rolled over to TPs side

    - Plenty of more options

    Why could this work? Because of all the other Wildcat RBs or slash type QBs, none matched TPs size/speed ratio. He’s a very legit threat to get behind single cover and in the red zone almost like a TE. You have to gear your coverage around that. Then mix in the occasional throw out of his hands the second you overplay his run. On top of that, Flynn is better suited to make the reads and audibles, putting his strength in play and covering Pryor’s weaker ability there. Flynn can also dink and dunk like Pryor was trying making him as good or better as a game manager.

    But do DA and Olson have the balz to try this?

  • jesusraiderjim

    Our defense is much improved and it looks like we’re stopping the run, not getting gouged in the air.
    **************************************************

    Not complaining just wondering what you all think.

    We gave up like a 2nd and 30 and a 3rd and 20 for first downs in the last quarter. THOUGHTS??

  • RAIDERMAN99

    Zymurge Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
    #453 – sign me up as the dumbest then. I’ll wear the title proudly.
    ===================================================
    Done.

    Although with Doc Blowhard around, you’ll never have uncontested posession of the ‘dumbest of the dumb’ title.

    Actually, I’ve had you down as a contender for the title since I’ve seen you talking about starting McGloin.

    But it’s nice of you to ask to be included as a contender for ‘dumbest of the dumb’ and I’m all too happy to accomodate your request.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    well for supposed raider fans it seems they are mighty upset about pryor winning a game.

    Did these losers even watch the game?

    If you did you should have noticed that the jags main assignment was stopping pryor, and let anybody but pryor beat them.

    The jags weary from watching pryor scramble and extend plays then throw down field in colt game decided they would employ 2 main tactics to stop him.

    First stop the run by shifting the defense to the edges. In an attempt to stop the boots, and zone read keepers, they committed to defending the edge. The result was huge running lanes between the tackles for the running backs.

    pryor was largely a decoy in the run game, which was by design of olson to counter what the jags were doing. Excellent job by the raiders being ready and executing in that department.

    The second main goal was playing far more zone coverage. They did not want pryor throwing into the deep seams, they did want him to scramble, so they faced him with zone coverage. This is a technique often employed against joohn elway when he was young as well.

    the zone coverage also was designed to take away pass patterns down the sideline where the raiders have shown they will attack both in preseason and regular season.

    Instead the jags funneled the passing game into the middle of the field, and it was up to pryor to prove he could move the offense while going short and into the middle of the field.

    pryor defeated that scheme by completing 62 percent of his passes, avoiding interceptions, hitting some tight windows, and making 5 trips into the red zone. pryor through 2 games this year is completing better than 60% of his passes, and better than 70% on 3rd down and in the 4th quarter. that is how you win in the nfl

    This is how the raiders won the game, short ball control passing and a bludgeoniuing running game.

    Not sure why anyobne would critisize pryor after the mistake free win, executing the plan drawn up by olson. It worked.

    Now im sure the red zone can and will get better, but at least we are seeing an identity offensivley, we couldnt say that with palmer.

    pryro was mainly in shot gun and pistol and we had a down hill runing game powering through the interioir of the defnse.

    The wide receivers were decent enough and also proved they could win playing a dink and dunk game, when they are mainly known for vertical game.

    This was a big step for this team as you can see them learning how to win the games they are supposed to. yet another thing we couldnt say about palmers raiders.

  • inonewordraider

    new waver passer rating rankings thus far:

    vick #3
    wilson #8
    manuel #10
    griffin #17
    newton #20
    kaepernick #23
    pryor #28
    geno #32
    _______
    geno and Wilson are pocket passers and therefore shouldn’t be on this list

    rgiii looks like he shouldn’t be on the list based on his first two starts this year as he’s turning into a pure pocket passer

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    olson basically employed the same scheme that gruden did with gannon here. Dink and dunk passing and power run.

    that is what the game plan called for, pryor executed and the raiders won.

    Lmao haters still time to root for the broncos

  • JLofty

    Man I hate the Donkeys….

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Inonewordraider Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:00 pm
    new waver passer rating rankings thus far:
    =======================

    i see these two losers are creating there own new categories

    lol

    wtf is a “new waver”?

  • JLofty

    @473 JRJ, we were playing soft bend don’t break kill time defense when those plays were made.
    Not to worry. I didn’t like it but it probably made the most sense….

  • LA to TheBay

    Mike Vick

    Yr/Games/Comp/Att/%/YD/TD/INT

    02/15/231/421/54.9/2936/16/8
    04/15/181/321/56.4/2313/14/12
    05/15/214/387/55.3/2412/15/13
    06/16/204/388/52.6/2474/20/13

    10/11/233/372/62.6/3018/21/6

  • Dakota

    In this day and age, with all of the rules bent in favor of the QB, it really is emberrasing to have a QB who can’t sniff a 300 yard passing game.

    We will get there someday…..that guy just isn’t on our roster yet.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    JLofty Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
    Zymurge, what exactly did you see in the pre-season that made you so high on Matt Flynn?
    I don’t hate the guy or have any agenda but he showed me VERY little in the way of what I want to see from my starting QB. Maybe some of that was him being hurt but for all the time he got to the lead QB, going with the ones, he looked pretty mediocre at BEST…

    ===

    The two minute drill he ran showed that he can continue to execute the same way that he did in GB when the rest of the O is in sync. Pryor in all his preseason reps and 2 starts has yet to make a throw as nice as the one Flynn did to Moore for the TD.

    Games 2 and 3 were heavily marred by three things:

    1) The defense was atrocious without half the starting DL, Hayden (already making a difference) and vanilla light blitzing scheme was putting the Raiders behind minutes into the first quarter. Not a huge factor in preseason but it still changed the tone and made the offense appear to be in come from behind mode.

    2) The OL woes due to injuries and trying guys like Barrons meant a heavily outgunned unit. Flynn had no chance to show anything. That unit has solidified now (at least against a Jags defense) and can provide a solid WCO QB with time on enough plays to scan the field and find the best option. Pryor just doesn’t do this unless he has absolutely zero pressure and even then takes too long. With pressure, it’s lock on to one guy and either throw or run.

    3) Related to the OL, they had no running game whatsoever behind the experimental line combos. No QB can operate for more than a few series once the D loses all fear of the run. In addition, Flynn will spot more chances to audible into improved running plays (because anything is greater than zero) than Pryor will, which will provide more of those big holes for DMac to fly through.

    The thing is, Flynn has done what Pryor never has. He proved that with talent around him he can absolutely light it up. Pryor has shown that he mix some exciting plays in with a bunch of ugliness. The Raiders talent, while not being the GB offense, is looking significantly better than expected. I want to see whether Flynn is what they expected when the other pieces are in place, since he’s already shown that he can be in preseason week 1.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Posted by Oak:

    Peter King—
    Basically, he says NFL teams think Manziel parties too much:
    No one can know where Manziel will be drafted now–IF he declares for ‘14 draft. Draft is 34 wks away. Lots of drinking nights before then.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Jeeeze!
    Again with the same tirade against Johnny Football Oak?!
    You need to find a different dead horse to flog.

    Johnny football, playing against Alabama, threw for 460 yards, 5 touchdowns, and ran for 98 yards, but he sucks because he “parties too much”!

    The guy’s a sophomore in college. It’s not unusual.

    According to Villapiano, Snake “studied the play book by the light of the juke box” in a bar every night and that was when he was an NFL starting quarterback.
    And a pretty good one.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    pryor payed smart football, and did want i hoped he would and remained patient.

    In fact he was very much in the mold of the jc led raiders on sunday. Refusing to force anything and simply taking what was there.

    the haters and the jags simply did not think pryor could execute that kind of game plan and only expected him to be a boom or bust type player.

    remember the criticism last week? “what will he do when he cant run all over the place?”

    you have your answer, execute the offense from the pocket and move the chains for a win.

    never seen a qb play mistake free and win and take such heat before….. wait i take that back.

    i have seen it and it was JC, and it was the same group of haters almost to a man….

    hmmmmmmmm very very suspicious

  • Dakota

    *embarrassing

    Totally!

  • LA to TheBay

    Vick Rushing

    02 777/6.9/8 TD
    04 902/7.5/3 TD
    05 597/5.9/6 TD
    06 1039/8.4/2 TD

    10 676/6.8/9 TD

    Yeah, Pryor has a precedence, fellas.

    Let’s maybe give the kid more than 3 starts.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Dakota Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    In this day and age, with all of the rules bent in favor of the QB, it really is emberrasing to have a QB who can’t sniff a 300 yard passing game.

    We will get there someday…..that guy just isn’t on our roster yet.
    ================

    see what i mean?

    so dakota would be happier with a 300 yard turn over filled loss like his hero palmer treated us to week in and out last season.

    who the fugg cares about passing yards?

    the most important stats for a qb touch downs turn overs and w/L

  • inonewordraider

    i see these two losers are creating there own new categories

    lol

    wtf is a “new waver”?

    __________
    far from a loser, mr. east Oakland cell phone street etiquette

    you said the wave of the future are ultra athletic dual threat qb’s

    I say geno Wilson and rgIII shouldn’t be in this category since they’re pocket passers and not any more threats to run than Andrew luck Christian ponder or aaron Rodgers

    pryor, kaepernick, and vick fall into your “wave” category

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    LA To TheBay Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    Mike Vick

    Yr/Games/Comp/Att/%/YD/TD/INT

    02/15/231/421/54.9/2936/16/8
    04/15/181/321/56.4/2313/14/12
    05/15/214/387/55.3/2412/15/13
    06/16/204/388/52.6/2474/20/13

    10/11/233/372/62.6/3018/21/6

    ===

    Just proves that a couple of years in prison will teach you that you better learn to be a good pitcher or else you become a catcher :-D

  • LA to TheBay

    i have seen it and it was JC, and it was the same group of haters almost to a man….

    hmmmmmmmm very very suspicious

    —-

    I still contend Soup was whack and a game manager only. And scared.

    Pryor’s not scared. He sticks it in there and has major wheels.

  • Gdog

    Dakota Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:28 pm

    Pryor will never win us a playoff game let alone the SB. I have already moved on from him. Right now he is just the best QB out of a bunch of crap QBs.

    Seems like his heart is set on playing QB…..it will be unfortunate to see him taken off the team because he will refuse to play another position. His running abilities should keep him on the field in some capacity, but he will refuse and we will have to move on. He is a better passer than Teblow, but will suffer the same fate. I hope we can find a team who will give us something for him when that time comes.

    Meanwhile, at least I can sit back and watch you guys rip each other up over the situation lol. Got to find the silver lining in any situation.

    >>>

    Agreed. Anyone that can watch Pryor throw the ball yesterday, and then later watch Kap and Wilson throwing the ball and think they are similar just doesn’t know football. His mechanics are lazy at best.

    That said, we can prolly lead the league in rushing with him, and that can win us 6 or so games.

    Much better than Flynn or McGloin.

  • JLofty

    Ok Zymurge but I asked about Flynn not Pryor.
    Do you think Matt Flynn is the QB of the Raider’s future?

    He did have a nice 2 minute drill. And a nice medium pass here and there on the way to a punt.

    But I saw no ability to audible. No ability to pick up blitzes, set blockers. It just wasn’t there. He got pounded. Like I said I am blaming him or hating on him. It just didn’t happen.

    I do not see Matt Flynn as anything other than a solid backup QB in the NFL. Sorry. All I have is 2013 pre-season to go on. Didn’t see him play week 17 against Lions in 2010 or whatever. I just don’t see what all the hype was about. I guess I have that in common with his QB coach from GB who elected to pass on him with his new team….

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoi_wwzbtQ Zymurge

    RAIDERMAN99 Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
    Zymurge Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 2:50 pm
    #453 – sign me up as the dumbest then. I’ll wear the title proudly.
    ===================================================
    Done.

    Although with Doc Blowhard around, you’ll never have uncontested posession of the ‘dumbest of the dumb’ title.

    Actually, I’ve had you down as a contender for the title since I’ve seen you talking about starting McGloin.

    But it’s nice of you to ask to be included as a contender for ‘dumbest of the dumb’ and I’m all too happy to accomodate your request.

    ====

    This is like in a beauty pageant where the reigning winner hands her crown to the next winner. You had your run, now let me have mine.

  • Purvisman/Intrepid/Eternal Optimist

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    Jeeeze!…
    …You need to find a different dead horse to flog.
    ===============================================

    Here? And be original? Never.

  • Dakota

    488.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:14 pm
    Dakota Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
    In this day and age, with all of the rules bent in favor of the QB, it really is emberrasing to have a QB who can’t sniff a 300 yard passing game.

    We will get there someday…..that guy just isn’t on our roster yet.
    ================

    see what i mean?

    so dakota would be happier with a 300 yard turn over filled loss like his hero palmer treated us to week in and out last season.

    who the fugg cares about passing yards?

    the most important stats for a qb touch downs turn overs and w/L

    +++++++++++++

    So when we are 4-12 or 5-11 this season, what will be the most important stat for QBs then? Rushing yards? lol

  • JLofty

    “I am *NOT* blaming”…

  • chuck

    Dr.robert you are full of crap,last week you said the only thing that matter was winning and we won so give credit and if we lose next week come back and put us down but at least give us credit when we do win.last week Pryor losing and picks were the problem now no picks and a win and you are mad wait and see what team Flynn will backup next year and and get on there blog.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Inonewordraider Says:
    September 16th, 2013 at 3:15 pm
    i see these two losers are creating there own new categories

    lol

    wtf is a “new waver”?

    __________
    far from a loser, mr. east Oakland cell phone street etiquette

    you said the wave of the future are ultra athletic dual threat qb’s
    ===============

    trying to redifine the term that i coined here?

    what is the purpose?

    i reject your definition

    geno and wilson are most assuredly part of the ‘wave of the future”

    even if they dont fit you and doc slobs “new waver” deal

    wtf that is supposed to be

    lol

  • RAIDERMAN99

    BTW, it deserves mention that although TP played ‘good soldier’ last week and took full blame for the wasted time-outs and delay of game penalties – that clearly was NOT the case for the wasted time-out yesterday.

    TP has the men in the huddle and is looking over to the sideline with a ‘where the fk is the playcall already?’ expression on his face. Should have been more urgency breaking the huddle and getting the play off – but the delay and subsequent wasted time-out was all on Tits and Olson.

    Tits and Olson need to get their act together on that front. Pronto.