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Nix back at practice, Ross taking over for Branch

By Steve Corkran
Friday, September 20th, 2013 at 1:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.

ALAMEDA – Left guard Lucas Nix (ankle) on Friday practiced for the first time since he suffered an ankle injury. Coach Dennis Allen said he isn’t sure yet whether Nix or Andre Gurode will start against the Broncos.

Weak side linebacker Kevin Burnett also returned to practice. He missed most of Thursday’s practice with an illness.

Strong safety Tyvon Branch (ankle), left tackle Menelik Watson (knee) and tight end David Ausberry (shoulder) didn’t practice Friday, and they aren’t likely to play against the Broncos.

– Allen said he is “leaning toward” starting Brandian Ross at strong safety Monday. Ross has worked with the first-team defense this week and declared himself “ready.”

“It’s the perfect time for me to make an impact on this team,” Ross said. He started one game for the Raiders last season.

Usama Young also is adept at playing strong safety, and he might see some time there against the Broncos, or as an extra defensive back on obvious passing downs.

– A company that owns 13 appliance stores in Colorado is offering to pick up the tab for items purchased the week before the Raiders and Broncos play if the Broncos shut out the Raiders.

The company has used this publicity stunt for at least the past decade, without having to pay up.

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  • LA to TheBay

    College is like the minor leagues anyway.

    Kids get paid better than I do.

  • eastoaklandraider

    So judge you want zero help over the top?

  • LA to TheBay

    It’s not worth the energy trying to guess what Tarver’s gonna do.

    I would expect us to come from everywhere.

    Peyton will make some big plays like he always does.

    The idea is to keep at it, play tight coverage and try to keep hitting him.

    They’ll want a clean pocket and we have to collapse it.

    Everything else is details which I’m not paid to worry about.

  • The_Judge37

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:08 pm
    So judge you want zero help over the top?

    No, have Usama or Ross playing single high. But I want PM to have to account for where woodson is every down, not just have him out waiting for a deep ball.

  • Plunketthead

    Dang, this will be a big one. We let that first one slip through, we are a kinda pregnant 2-0. Best chance is we play great football and PM has an off night.

    I have a feeling we will run all over them and we win if we win the turnover battle

  • Dan78

    I expect Manning to throw quick screens and slants to try and neutralize our blitz packages…. Pryor will have to roll out and pass… We will need a big play from one of our receivers… I think that play will come from Ford burning Bailey…

  • The_Judge37

    It’s not about hitting Peyton. It’s about making him throw incomplete and forcing passes into tight coverage.

  • LA to TheBay

    Peyton was not at all superhuman in Oakland last year.

    And our D is going to be playing at that kind of level (or higher) vs. the first meeting.

    Nobody wants to talk about how opportunistic Denver’s DEFENSE has been, even without big money pass rushers.

  • willy91137

    LA To TheBay Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:07 pm
    182.Just Fire Baby Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
    People think a minor league would work, but nobody would watch it.

    College football makes it’s hay profiteering on alumni and regional fans.

    You think Alabama University fans are suddenly going to become Mobile Dragon minor league fans?

    Not a chane in hell!!!!

    —-

    Nope.

    Too ingrained in the culture and the big money people are not gonna just volunteer to lose money
    ==================================@willy
    you put it on in the springtime and there’s no football to be had get some cable network to broadcast them play in the stadiums of the real NFL

  • LA to TheBay

    207.The_Judge37 Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
    It’s not about hitting Peyton. It’s about making him throw incomplete and forcing passes into tight coverage.

    —–

    It’s ALWAYS about hitting the QB. Always.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Judge PM will manipulate young or ross, looking them off their coverage, Cwood won’t bite on that.

  • Twocents

    I think our only chance against Denver is the strategy that Al espoused.
    “The quarterback must go down and he must go down hard.”

  • The_Judge37

    LA to TheBay Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
    207.The_Judge37 Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
    It’s not about hitting Peyton. It’s about making him throw incomplete and forcing passes into tight coverage.

    —–

    It’s ALWAYS about hitting the QB. Always.
    —-

    Yeah but you’re not going to intimidate Manning or throw him of his game mentally. Our best shot is to leave him with no where to go with the ball.

  • LA to TheBay

    you put it on in the springtime and there’s no football to be had get some cable network to broadcast them play in the stadiums of the real NFL

    Like the WNBA?

    People want the best talent.

    Currently, that’s in top tier college programs. The Ghost of Al Davis will not come to create a competitive alternative to the NCAA.

  • The_Judge37

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:13 pm
    Judge PM will manipulate young or ross, looking them off their coverage, Cwood won’t bite on that.
    ———

    Well we’re going to have to pick our poision. He’ll do that to them regardless. I’d rather let Woodson use his experience and talents closer to where the action happens.

  • Dan78

    McFadden has to come in with a chip on his shoulder… This is the biggest stage so far that he will have to prove he deserves a big contract… He needs to run wild in Denver…

  • eastoaklandraider

    NE showed how to beat Manning, beat up his wr’s at the los.

  • LA to TheBay

    Yeah but you’re not going to intimidate Manning or throw him of his game mentally. Our best shot is to leave him with no where to go with the ball.

    ——-

    Sure. Do you leave guys one on one across the board just to send the house at Manning?

    Of course not. Yuo can knock him down but he’ll still burn you.

    But you have to hit him.

    I think this will be the biggest test of Tarver’s career.

  • alex7

    Manning just doesn’t get hit. Just doesn’t happen. Too smart, release is too quick, rarely get a free blitzer without him recognizing and adjusting.

  • the suspicious dr robert

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  • alex7

    Ravens tried sending the house, or at least “hitting him.”

    He audibled to that quick Thomas screen for an easy 70-yard TD.

    Oh, and no one hit him.

  • LA to TheBay

    I’m upset I have to go back to work before I watch this game. Oh well, maybe I’ll actually accomplish something on a late summer/fall/winter Sunday for once.

  • http://profootballtalk.com Raideraholic (AKAHairyBush)

    yo

  • LA to TheBay

    Alex, Manning gets hit, he just typically completes the pass.

    You’re smokin’ something strong if you think he goes untouched 16+ games a year.

  • The_Judge37

    Can’t blitz Manning like too much. We’ll have to do it occasionally with a LB but this game will be up to our D-Line vs their Oline.

    We need natural pressure. If our Dline can’t accomplish that vs their Oline who’s missing so many starters then they’re not worth $h!t.

  • The_Judge37

    We need coverage sacks from the Dline, not exotic blitzes.

  • LA to TheBay

    We need natural pressure. If our Dline can’t accomplish that vs their Oline who’s missing so many starters then they’re not worth $h!t.

    Agree.

    They’ll try to give their line help though.

    I’m concerned about YAC more than anything else in this game.

    We better be tackling in the open field.

  • alex7

    LA

    no, I didn’t mean he NEVER gets hit. But we’re not talking about just hitting him. You guys think there’s a chance to hit Manning SO MUCH that it actually affects him.

    He doesn’t get hit much and certainly never enough to where it disrupts him. You’ll never see Manning have a game like Weeden had vs the Dolphins where they were putting contact on him half or more of his drop-backs. So why would you try and do something you’re going to fail at 95% of the time? Strategize something else.

  • The_Judge37

    LA to TheBay Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
    We need natural pressure. If our Dline can’t accomplish that vs their Oline who’s missing so many starters then they’re not worth $h!t.

    Agree.

    They’ll try to give their line help though.

    I’m concerned about YAC more than anything else in this game.

    We better be tackling in the open field.
    —–

    Yeah, can’t play tight coverage and let the WR break loose. If they catch a 5-10 yard pass, it has to end as a 5-10 yard pass.

  • the suspicious dr robert

    blitzing doesn’t work all that well, if manning sees it coming.

    some corner blitzes from his blind side perhaps.

    u have to play an underneath zone, and try to take away quick strike passing lanes, so that he has to go thru progressions and interrupt his rhythm.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Young has played well in the box area, playing deep coverage is not his strong suit, rather PM go on a 12 play drive than let him get the big play.

  • alex7

    You have to pick your poison, and I’m thinking you try taking away short/intermediate areas and force Manning to throw deeper more often.

    More cover 2 or man-cover-1 where Manning sees that he has single-coverage on deep routes.

    IF Manning is going to be off on something, it’s more likely to be deep throws, not short/medium accuracy or reading fancy blitzes.

  • Dan78

    Ross will need to stick on to the TE… That is were we will miss Branch… Hopefully he deflect a few passes….

  • eastoaklandraider

    Jenkins and Porter must channel their inner Ty Law.

  • The_Judge37

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
    Young has played well in the box area, playing deep coverage is not his strong suit, rather PM go on a 12 play drive than let him get the big play.
    ——

    I don’t believe Young has a strong Suit, which is why they’re starting Ross.

  • inonewordraider

    Dan78 Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
    Ross will need to stick on to the TE… That is were we will miss Branch… Hopefully he deflect a few passes….

    ______
    great v run, but is he that good v pass?

  • alex7

    Not many dominant teams this year. Unfortunate we have a limited O/QB because it’s rare to have

    the ENTIRE AFC North,
    the ENTIRE AFC East,
    the ENTIRE NFC East

    all being beatable.

    This is the year to have at least a solid 8-8 roster that can go 11-5 due to so many teams struggling. Why the Chiefs, Chargers, Texans, Lions, and Bears will all look so good.

  • Just Fire Baby

    When you keep Peyton in the pocket and drop into severe coverage, he gets antsy.

    I have seen him simply throw balls away, with NO PASS RUSH, because he went 1 progression, 2 progession, 3 progression, nobody is open fck it throw it away.

    I would rather rush 2 people than 6 against him.

    He wants you to blitz, because he is smarter than your DC and will see it coming, find the hot read, and pick up those completions in his sleep.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I think Manning is bigger than 7 of our 11 defensive starters.

  • JONTRAIN

    Hayden will not see Welker hardly, if at all.

    Thomas and Decker will be going at Hayden. Heavy dose of screen passes and sweeps to the offense’s left. That more than anyrhing else is what worries me.

    Now maybe Tarver counters with moving Hayden inside. But that would be the first we have seen of Hayden in the slot this year.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    The_Judge37 Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
    Young has played well in the box area, playing deep coverage is not his strong suit, rather PM go on a 12 play drive than let him get the big play.
    ——

    I don’t believe Young has a strong Suit, which is why they’re starting Ross.
    ———————————–
    Well, Young is a Rookie. May want a little more exp against Peyton.

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    Plus, we know DA is frightened of young Players.

  • The_Judge37

    Al Davis defense used to give PM problems. Four man Rush, Press man. Those Colts games were always close. We just couldn’t close them out.

  • eastoaklandraider

    Ty Law showed what to do to slow up Manning.

  • The_Judge37

    KoolKell Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
    The_Judge37 Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:28 pm
    eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
    Young has played well in the box area, playing deep coverage is not his strong suit, rather PM go on a 12 play drive than let him get the big play.
    ——

    I don’t believe Young has a strong Suit, which is why they’re starting Ross.
    ———————————–
    Well, Young is a Rookie. May want a little more exp against Peyton
    —-

    Usama Young is NOT a Rookie.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Young is not a rookie.

    Didn’t you read about how he played under DA in New Orleans?

  • http://www.Raiders.com KoolKell

    No? sorry. ;-)

  • inonewordraider

    Well, Young is a Rookie. May want a little more exp against Peyton
    _________
    usama young?

  • Gdog

    eastoaklandraider Says:
    September 20th, 2013 at 3:17 pm

    NE showed how to beat Manning, beat up his wr’s at the los.

    >>>

    Didn’t the Chargers always have his number in the playoffs?

  • Dan78

    If we beat Denver will Fox be smiling it up with DA???