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Pryor, Griffin a cautionary tale on running QBs

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, September 26th, 2013 at 6:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.

What could have shaped up as a battle between two of the NFL’s most gifted athletes is instead a cautionary tale on the perils of being a quarterback that runs the ball.

Terrelle Pryor may not start for the Raiders Sunday against the Washington Redskins at O.co Coliseum after practicing in a limited fashion while recovering from a concussion.

Robert Griffin III will start for Washington, but it’s an open debate as to whether he’s the same guy who put together one of the best rookie seasons for a quarterback in NFL history.

Pryor was mostly a spectator during the media window. He didn’t put on a helmet until the closed session began, where coach Dennis Allen said Pryor got some snaps.

“I don’t want to speculate on where we’re at,’’ Allen said. “I’ve got to see when he gets cleared for contact and when he’s fully able to participate in practice.’’

With little more than a walk-through on Saturday, it would seem the chances of Pryor starting without getting in close to a full session Friday are slim.

There are no such doubts regarding Griffin, who won the NFL Rookie of the Year award completing 65.9 percent of his passes for 3,200 yards, 20 touchdowns and a passer rating of 102.4. He also rushed for 815 yards, a league record for a rookie quarterback.

Following reconstructive knee surgery, Griffin is throwing more and running less, although some of that has to do with the Redskins playing from behind in an 0-3 start.

Griffin looked a little more like his old self in a 27-20 loss to the Detroit Lions, running six times for 37 yards and completing 32 of 50 passes for 326 yards.

“He’s not fully healthy, obviously,’’ teammate and wide receiver Pierre Garcon told the Washington Post. “He’s running a little bit more, but last year’s RG III was a lot different than this year’s RG because of his knee. It’s not surprising.’’

Griffin is uninterested in discussing the state of his health or analyzing anything other than how to get better.

“Whether you’re a mobile quarterback or a quarterback that sits in the pocket, there are going to be games where things don’t go your way and there are going to be times when people criticize you,’’ Griffin told Bay Area reporters by conference call. “You just can’t look at that stuff.’’

Allen said the Redskins don’t look a lot different offensively than they did a year ago when they were an NFC wild card participant.

“I haven’t seen a ton of difference in what they’re doing offensively,’’ Allen said. “He’s still a very talented player.’’

Free safety Charles Woodson, on a conference call with Washington writers, said, “I don’t think there’s as much setting up the pass with that read option in the run game as there has been.’’

Griffin said the read option is still a part of the Washington offense and that the lack of running has more to do with how the defense is playing it.

“They’ve been playing it different ways, but it’s still available to us and the one thing, you have to be able to adjust on the fly,’’ Griffin said.

Griffin’s health and the amount of running he does are of paramount importance for the Redskins. He’s been urged to slide more often, and joked this week he would look up Washington Nationals outfielder Bryce Harper for some pointers.

It’s the same dilemma the Raiders have with Pryor _ wanting their best athlete to use all his skills while at the same time playing it safe when necessary to stay on the field.

The conflict is evident when Griffin was asked about avoiding big hits and during the course of his answer said “You have to go out and play with no fear’’ and later said “the highlight reel hits that can happen when you try to escape the pocket, I try to limit those.’’

Both Allen and defensive coordinator Jason Tarver believe playing against Pryor throughout training camp will help the Raiders deal with Griffin.

“They have similar ability in terms of getting outside the pocket to extend plays and throw on the run,’’ linebacker Nick Roach said. “It’s definitely to our advantage in training camp we were able to see that.’’

– The Raiders announced Sunday’s game is a sellout and will be televised locally.

– Defensive end Jason Hunter (quadriceps) did not practice. Linebacker Sio Moore (concussion) and cornerback Tracy Porter (concussion) were limited but were “a step ahead’’ of Pryor in their recovery.

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  • stormbringerSS

    FLYNN OR……such an easy decision

  • http://raiders.com/ Crawfish Joe

    Seriously. Who’s Washington hoping will start.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Haven’t voted up or down on anyone yet ‘cuz it’s just a popularity contest and affects nothing unless you load comments by ‘best’.
    Haven’t flagged any, either, ‘cuz irritating as some are, i’ve seen nothing offensive.

    You may be the first.

  • JonGrand

    Doesn’t matter who we start. Both guys bring things to the table that can help us. Flynn, with a healthy arm, is better than average. Pryor’s ceiling has yet to be determined. Where we are going to win this game is on defense.

  • KoolKell

    No way Pryor Starts.

  • stormbringerSS

    There are still SIX STUPID teams out there that think they can win with “homie claus” behind center……their combined record of 6-12 proves im right = FACT

  • stormbringerSS

    …there is a GOD

  • stormbringerSS

    Don’t you have to have a brain to suffer a concussion?

  • KoolKell

    Wow, Girodano just got beat for a TD.

  • KoolKell

    Love the stat comparisons between Washington and Raiders. But Peyton Manning skewed our Stats defensively.

    http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/matchup/redskins-raiders-week-4-2013

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    New post, Kooky.

  • Rick Worth

    What’s up I can’t believe how long it took to get on here a year at least

  • Rick Worth

    We need a win Sunday

  • Rick Worth

    Koolkell winnipeg checking in boy some mean people over the years on here eh?

  • stormbringerSS

    Looks like the DR. missed his bus again

  • 1960raider

    testing

  • dplunk

    G/Morning Raider fans!
    this is going to be the “I told you so” game..
    If Flynn starts and does well I’m sure the Flynn fans and posiibly coach DA will be saying “I told you so”..
    If Flynn doesn’t do so well; I’m sure the Pryor supporters, and possibly Mark Davis will be saying ” I told you so”.
    as for me: Just Win Baby!

  • REAL MEN WEAR BLACK

    You are taking it a little to fare with the monkey!!!! damn its 2013 and they are still around. RIP TRAVON

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    This is exactly why media cant be trusted in any form. The question of Pryor and Griffin serving as “cautionary tales for running qbs” is slick hocus pocus as it shifts a negative thought process into high gear.

    The logical question I would ask then were troy aikamns concussion that ended his hall of fame career, also a cautionary tale for non running qbs?

    I seem to remember qbs suffering concussions inside the pocket far more than have outside of the pocket in a historical context.

    were carson palmers broken ribs last season also a cautionary tale about non running qbs?

    The most accurate assessment if we are being honest is that any qb is in constant danger of being injured on every snap that he is in the game, just as all football players are.

    However it worse for qbs as many times they are hit from the blind side or while in a defenseless position or throwing motion.

    I think it is time to stop resisting change and accept the fact that the qb position has been revolutionized.

    The nfl must also get rid of the rules that treat qbs as running backs under any circumstance, including those designated for read option fakes. That is of course if they are truly interested in keeping ALL qbs protected.

    i remain highly skeptical of both the football industry and their treatment of players like Pryor and Griffin, as well as the suspect so called media that reports on them.

  • 2bBigE

    Whats up with the racist stuff? Why not just keep it to football…smh

  • stormbringerSS

    zimmerman = american hero

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