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McFadden, Wiz doubtful; O-line hurting

The fact that Darren McFadden has been here before doesn’t make it any easier.

The Raiders officially listed McFadden as doubtful Friday with a hamstring strain, meaning it’s likely he will miss the 24th game of his career due to injury.

Only on rare occasions does a player listed as doubtful on Friday end up playing on Sunday, which also means center Stefen Wisniewski, who has the same designation, could end up a spectator when the Raiders host the San Diego Chargers Sunday night.

“I can’t even describe it or put it into words,’’ McFadden said when asked about his level of frustration with being injured again. “I just try to keep my head up, keep pushing forward an remain positive.’’

McFadden acknowledged the possibility of sitting out back-to-back games against San Diego and Kansas City preceding the bye week would “help me out a whole lot’’ but stressed he was taking it “day to day.’’ He has yet to be able to sprint.

“Hamstrings are one of those things you want to be careful with,’’ McFadden said. “I’d rather miss one or two games than to come back and pop it and miss four or five.’’

Allen said Wisniewski’s progress hasn’t been what the Raiders hoped but didn’t rule him out of recovering before Sunday night.

If Wisniewski can’t play, left guard Andre Gurode would start at center. Complicating matters is that guard Lucas Nix (ankle) and starting right tackle Tony Pashos (groin) are both listed as questionable. So is tackle Menelik Watson, just coming off arthroscopic knee surgery.

In an extreme circumstance, players such as guard Antoine McClain, guard Lamar Mady and practice squad tackle James Cornell could be forced into action.

It’s been hard,’’ Gurode said. “You’ve just got to make sure everybody is communicating on the same page and you go out and play an do the best you can.’’

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  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Pork Barrels?

  • plunkhead

    But the owners may want one so she can apply her wily ways to the further destruction of the players unions. She learned from the best on how to screw people over and make them like it.

  • 10centsworth

    EmptySuits?

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    If so, you’re swaying me. I thought that was the city of Oakland playing nanny.

  • 10centsworth

    Lawyers for Christ?

  • willy91137

    Pray for the Raiders

  • 10centsworth

    The Royal Her.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    The Red Inks? Redskin anagram!

  • 10centsworth

    Uno Mas, Por Favor?

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    “There’s a lot of truth to be found in a pint of wine. In a quart, not so much.”
    Woody Guthrie

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    If I prayed, I’d pray for their health. The rest is up to them.

  • 10centsworth

    God would be a good back up. I hear he’s on waivers.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    The Shutdowns?

  • 10centsworth

    The BlackSkins?

  • 10centsworth

    What a mind.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    You trying to say Jesus Christ can’t hit a curveball?

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    I’ll be here all week. No I won’t. I’m going to Santa Rosa. Be back for th game tho’.

  • 10centsworth

    No. I’d walk him every time. You know he wouldn’t steal second.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    I want to try to explain something to all of you that think the coaches suck for not “developing Pryor properly” I have not been able to explain this very well in the past so I want to take a comment from another board so no one will take this personal and dissect it.

    “Imagine if they would have used Pryor as the starter for the reminder of the season last year and thru the pre-season, I hate the fact that this clown we have as coach and mckqinzie did not see this last year, we went and spent 6.5M on an unproven QB and now are stuck with him as a 3rd stringer

    Last week against the redqueens, we should have used McGloin after the second half but we didn’t…. what gives, so slow to make any decisions by this clown we have as coach now he is throwing flint under the bus just so he doesn’t get the proper dues (FIRED)….C’mon man!

    mcquinzie and allen if you guys have any pride you will just quit before both of you get fired at the end of the season”

    OK lets imagine they used Pryor as starter last year around game 8. What you would have done is took Carson Palmer a top 15 QB (stats last year as good or better than Lucks for instance) and replaced him with someone with the passing skills at the time of Tim Tebow. If you doubt me look objectively at the game tape of the San Diego game. Many said he improved over the year just to get to that point. Here are some questions. How would the team feel if you took away their best chance to win and basically said we are going to tank. Would the team of quit on Allen? Would Tarver been able to develop the defense like he did in the last quarter of the season? There is a lot more to the team than QB. This is the NFL not the TP development league.

    Secondly Pryor is on record that Palmer was a mentor to him and helped him understand the game better. What would of happened to that relationship? What would have happened if Pryor got out there and was just destroyed. Would his confidence break? There is a lot more to development than just throwing a guy out there to the Lions.

    Third in Hue Jackson’s tenure Pryor is on record saying he did not even talk to the coach. There was no QB coach so when Allen took over you basically had a guy who had not really played in 18 months that probably had his confidence shattered and needed to start over. Remember Pryor is the same age as Manuel and other Rookies this year. Allen did get a QB coach and who do you think Pryor asked about offseason help with his passing skills? Remember there is limited contact with coaches and players because of the CBA.

    Regarding getting Flynn, the Seahawks signed him for like 26 million and are out something like 14 million should there coach and GM be fired too? We needed more talent at QB after getting rid of Palmer. We could not just roll with Pryor based on his performance at SD. He showed he could mechanically run the huddle etc and could be the back up so that game got Lienart fired but he still did not look like a starting NFL QB.

    Allen basically said that Flynn was the “starter” but that there would be competition at every position. He said cream would rise to the top which is exactly what happened. Is it not refreshing when a coach actually lives by his clichés for a change?

    I knew Pryor had potential I watched as the Oregon Ducks tried to recruit him out of high school. Unlike Tebow he actually had an arm. I also knew he was extremely raw and wondered if he ever could become an NFL QB. Tressel and later Jackson did nothing to develop him! Yet you blast the very coaches that helped develop him because they did not throw out there immediately. Why can’t you just celebrate the emergence of Pryor instead of bagging on the people that had a hand in helping him improve?

  • 10centsworth

    You up around Willits. Sounds like how they talk up there. A trip to the “big” city.

  • 10centsworth

    To be honest, I quit after “just imagine…”. If I have to “imagine”, we’d be 3-1…and the fever would be upon me.

  • Prometheus

    McFragile might be out until after the bye week. cut him now.

  • 10centsworth

    Let him heel. Nurse his “wounds”. Meditate. Pro Volleyball might beckon.

  • Prometheus

    the obamanites

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Obviously you’re a sacrilegious hater with an agenda.

    Seriously, wll stated. I tried repeatedly to explain that a HC’s only job is to win games. No matter the record. Especially a rookie HC. At no time last year was Pryor the better option to that end. Were Palmer still here, he wouldn’t be now either.
    DA needed a pass from Reggie/Mark to put Pryor in later in the season and apparently didn’t get it.
    Doesn’t matter. Falls on deaf ears.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Grass Valley.

  • Prometheus

    well you sound like you have a rough breakup with palmer. the offense has been WORSE with pryor so far. but i guess scoring isn’t as important as excitement. Raider fans are funny sometimes.

  • plunkhead

    the barrycades?

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    good explanation, logical all the way, but you have to know that those who throw out those silly comments are not people who really use logic or who really want an intelligent discussion of “what’s bothering them.” so many of the people on blogs like this just like to troll or to they’re like kids, who only wish to say things like “my dad can beat your dad….”. whoops, forgot…I come from a time when kids actually had dads, dads they knew….

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    The DC Politically Correctors

  • Prometheus

    the Federalis

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Being fair, though, it’s not as if the Raiders have given them any reason to speak highly of them or their chances. Any team CAN win now and then, even against a good opponent, but these guys are paid to analyze by talking about probabilities and what they’ve seen.

  • Prometheus

    everybody thinks their “era” was better.

  • Prometheus

    you sound like a politically literate person, very rare thing

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    She always said that was her greatest career aspiration.
    I have to say that I don’t like the NFL trying to spread into Europe.
    Goodell spends all this pr time telling the union and the fans that safety is his number one concern, yet he has the teams flying to London. Yeah, like that’s really good to have players take that long flight and then play a bruising game. (Even flying those long hours is a bad thing for these guys. One of these times they do that some guys is going to develop a blood clot.)
    Our own team is decimated by injuries and so are half of the teams in the NFL, but the owners would like you to believe they care about injuries. Sure.
    I say the regular season needs to be reduced by at two fewer regular season games and the rosters increased by 5 guys.

  • Thec

    http://boltbeat.com/2013/10/04/chargers-de-corey-liuget-warns-pryor-defense-coming/

    Hope the Raids smash this dude for opening his fat piehole.

  • 0ak R8rs

    Must be the day of great posts. That’s like the 3rd one I’ve seen today. Been trying to tell some of these idiots that for months now.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    I feel sorry for us and on a very personal level, I feel sorry for DMac. He’s not a softie, but his career has been full of bad luck (yes, some people are lucky, some aren’t) and his body has betrayed him. I do agree with a poster from a few days ago who said that anyone who watched him play college ball should have realized he wasn’t an every down back, that he rotated in and out with two other backs. It’s hard to know if using him that way would have caused few problems. I think his upright style of running is an accident waiting to happen, but then again, a lisc franc can happen to anyone and so can a hamstring pull.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    It’s really hard to judge ANY qb play for the Raiders until we get a steady and healthy O-line in front of him, and that includes Pryor. I hope we have a much stronger O-line by the last third of the season so that RM and all of us can more accurately judge Pryor’s future as an NFL qb. I don’t want to go into the next season thinking he’s the guy, only to find out when a real line is put in front of him that he’ll never be the passer we need to compete for championships. On the other hand, you can’t see what he can do until he does get that decent line.

  • 0ak R8rs

    Bad link. What’d he say?

  • Prometheus

    that TP better stay in the pocket if he doesn’t want to get hurt

  • 0ak R8rs

    Nice. Well truth hurts I guess. It’s no secret defenses have decided to deal w running QBs by inflicting pain and injury. And the refs seem to be in complete agreement. He does need to keep his head on a swivel.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Barry is so petty. Chicago politics all the way, pulling the strings behind him. To shut down the Vet Memorial when it’s just an open air area is so transparent, but just as bad is shutting down the D-Day cemetery as Americans in France are there.

  • Nick Gancayco

    That means they scared.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    No, more like 80%. Teachers? Oh, I guess you mean the teachers on military bases since the feds don’t employ many teachers (thank God.) Hey, this is like a summer vacation. Don’t worry, kids won’t lose any knowledge over a two week shutdown.

  • bkrayder81

    Am tired of seeing the Chargers defeat us. this time will be different

  • Prometheus

    Prez will audit dan synder of he doesn’t change the name

  • aig

    Freeman signed yet? Can’t wait to add that guy to our roster. Have always liked him.

  • plunkhead

    OK the Red Dicktators

  • plunkhead

    FIRE FREEMAN
    All state comms are great. I just saw the new one where the car starts on fire with the industrial sized jug of lighter fluidand he blows out of the rear