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McFadden, Wiz doubtful; O-line hurting

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, October 4th, 2013 at 2:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The fact that Darren McFadden has been here before doesn’t make it any easier.

The Raiders officially listed McFadden as doubtful Friday with a hamstring strain, meaning it’s likely he will miss the 24th game of his career due to injury.

Only on rare occasions does a player listed as doubtful on Friday end up playing on Sunday, which also means center Stefen Wisniewski, who has the same designation, could end up a spectator when the Raiders host the San Diego Chargers Sunday night.

“I can’t even describe it or put it into words,’’ McFadden said when asked about his level of frustration with being injured again. “I just try to keep my head up, keep pushing forward an remain positive.’’

McFadden acknowledged the possibility of sitting out back-to-back games against San Diego and Kansas City preceding the bye week would “help me out a whole lot’’ but stressed he was taking it “day to day.’’ He has yet to be able to sprint.

“Hamstrings are one of those things you want to be careful with,’’ McFadden said. “I’d rather miss one or two games than to come back and pop it and miss four or five.’’

Allen said Wisniewski’s progress hasn’t been what the Raiders hoped but didn’t rule him out of recovering before Sunday night.

If Wisniewski can’t play, left guard Andre Gurode would start at center. Complicating matters is that guard Lucas Nix (ankle) and starting right tackle Tony Pashos (groin) are both listed as questionable. So is tackle Menelik Watson, just coming off arthroscopic knee surgery.

In an extreme circumstance, players such as guard Antoine McClain, guard Lamar Mady and practice squad tackle James Cornell could be forced into action.

It’s been hard,’’ Gurode said. “You’ve just got to make sure everybody is communicating on the same page and you go out and play an do the best you can.’’

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  • KoolKell

    The haters have jumped from
    Palmer
    Flynn
    Wilson
    McGroin
    To Freeman.

    Wow. Lol.

  • Al_istheRaiders

    shut up pats fan….we dont need you around.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    I went from Palmer to Pryor. Guess I didn’t make “The Great Pootbutt’s” hate list. He doesn’t like me though. Where’s a crying emoticon when I need one?

  • Try Some Reality

    Well written, AutumnWind. See, this is the type of discussion I look forward to in this blog. Intelligent debate without any of the childish name calling.

    I’d like to correct you on your premise that we’ve wanted see Houdini since game 8 of last year. After game 8, we were 3-4 and still very much in contention (mathematically). We – or at least myself – did NOT want to see TP come in at that juncture in the season. What I lobbied for was to see him get some game experience once we were mathematically eliminated. At that point, we had nothing to play for and since even some of the best QB rookies to ever come out of college tend to struggle with their first NFL exposure. The staff had to have known Palmer’s time was about up or at the very least that they would be asking him to take a significant pay cut so why not give Pryor some play a this point?

    It is good to see the regime actually go with the better player, and I have stated as much in here. Reggie deserves credit for keeping the previous regime’s QB on the roster and DA gets credit for recognizing he’s our best option. I have no problem with that.

    Lastly, one of my main complaints is that Flynn was proclaimed the starter from the outset. Pryor’s main shortcoming right now is experience with the receivers, as you know. Think about how much better footing he could be on if it was a true competition with equal reps between the 2 of them. And think about what kind of damage it could have done from TP’s perspective to work your tail off then have some outsider come in and inherit the job. Fortunately, Houdini is very resilient, which speaks to his leadership ability and how he’s able to deal with adversity.

  • MistaBrown

    mope and change

  • Prometheus

    do you ever add anything intelligent to the blog?

  • Prometheus

    I’m partial to the Federalis, especially after they shot that woman to death with here 1 year old in the car

  • plunkhead

    I am happy with the QB we have. Lets see how he does this year

  • Prometheus
  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Your new here. No, he doesn’t. Calls a lot of people dumbass, though. Even his cat. For no reason.

  • Blackholepriest

    Read a comment earlier which indicated this staff should be celebrated for TP’s development. I will give them the credit they deserve but they also slowed his development his progress was 90% of his own doing. They simply assisted in conceding the obvious. Which was he is their best option now. Had they allowed him touches last year during the season. They may have won more games. While giving him needed experience.
    That would’ve given them eyes on experience as to what he could do, the offseason program may have been a more aggressive one in his development and he would be much further along giving this team a better player than he is now.
    Fo some of you this makes no sense, so let me put it in W/L’s maybe we’re 3-1 instead of 1-3 with a win over Denver no less. And a very good chance at getting a win Sunday.
    That is why we persist in lamenting the decisions this staff has made concerning TP………..period

  • Prometheus

    based on the fact that TP is 1-4 as a starter and that the Raider offense scores LESS than they did with Palmer I’d say your statement is pure opinion. best option? yes but lets not run before we can walk….PERIOD

  • plunkhead

    I choose to celebrate the fact that TP is the starter and he has the skills as well as leadership qualities that will rise to the top even if his coaches are not perfect. Looking backwards, preaching the negative has never worked for me.

  • Prometheus

    might be a good idea to scrap designed Pryor run plays. running QBs have been dropping like flies this year. he should only run when he has to OR if the field is wide open.

  • plunkhead

    Maybe a change of scenery would do you good

  • Prometheus

    thats me chillin on my obama phone living off of the taxpayer

  • Try Some Reality

    The argument we keep hearing is that Pryor made this miraculous turnaround in his passing game over the offseason.

    Even so, it doesn’t excuse the staff from rolling with Flynn over Pryor from the outset THIS YEAR. They were witnesses to this miraculous turnaround, so why not give Pryor a fair shot at playing with the 1′s? Why wait until the collossal flop job by Flynn against Chicago? They have no rebuttal for that.

    Instead we have a QB that was only discovered to be the best just before the season started, and therefore lacking rapport with his receivers.

  • Prometheus

    TP will need the rest of the season HEALTHY to be evaluated as a QB.

  • Raider O

    I’m happy with TP, and I’m a big supporter, but I think signing Freeman is a good idea. Freeman had success with Olson, and I rather have Freeman over an UDFA and Flynn. If TP is not the answer, we have Freeman who has a chance to showcase his talent before the end of the season, which will give us another option before we decide to draft another QB.

  • Blackholepriest

    Also cease and desist on blaming Hue for what he did with TP he got him the last week of TC and one week later he was suspended for 5 games. He had no idea how to run a play as he had had zero reps by then. Also that year we had noo offseason due to the strike. Hue started off as a rookie HC w/no offseason. What could he have done with a rookie who he barely got by mid season??

    To even act as if Hue Jackson somehow dissed TP is specious logic at it’s best. He had no chance to work with him he barely had time to work with the starter much less a rookie he barely knew. Just STOP IT!!!

    The succeeding coach had three times the opportunity to do so. He just DIDN’T…………period

  • Prometheus

    It’s all Hues fault..PERIOD

  • Raider O

    Don’t forget that we didn’t have a QB coach that year.

  • 0ak R8rs
  • The Beeeeech Dawg

    OMG BRAHS … OMG

    Any of you dorks ever been to Bucco Di Beppo?
    It’s an authentic Italian restaurant that blows the Olive Garden back to Naples.
    REAL DEAL GRINDS, THROW THEM FORKS UP
    The Dawg discovered it last night when he was cruising City Walk with a few of his hos.
    Stopped in and got plowed on Chianti at the bar then had a garden fresh salad and giant meatballs with linguini style noodles and parm cheese sprinkles
    Took a 45 minute power dump without even a hint of diarrhea. Almost passed out from the loss of body mass.
    Made a reservation tonight, gonna bring an oxygen tank this time in case I get light headed.
    THROWIN DOWN IN TINSELTOWN

  • plunkhead

    I think that’s all been done. You could say he needs 12 games to improve enough to convince Reg not to draft a QB with a high pick or go after a starting QB.
    Reg may have already seen enough to be convinced that TP is the man

  • Papertiger

    I actually think his health needs to be part of the evaluation process. If TP2 can’t stay on the field for more than six games at a time, then Reggie should look elsewhere.

    That’s what really grinds my gears about that Olson playcall at the end if the Broncos game. Now we’re going to have to worry about Pryor’s head as well as his knees, ankles, and throwing arm.

  • http://raiders.com/ Crawfish Joe

    If Freeman and Olsen were such a good ‘duo’ then why were they seperated? Just askin…….

  • 0ak R8rs

    Kinda early to say Pryor has a propensity for injury and can’t stay on the field, isn’t it? It’s the first concussion of his life. Not many NFL QBs can say that.

  • Prometheus

    really? do you remember jeff george? he used to put up great stats, had a rocket arm, and the team would win 4 games. IDK i would contend that Pryor needs the whole season to show that he’s the franchise. right now teams don’t even respect the deep ball.

  • Prometheus

    people move around in the nfl

  • Papertiger

    Beech,

    I know you’re a classy guy, so hit up La Parolaccia on Broadway in Long Beach if you want to up the ante on your Italian dining experience.

    The name of the restaurant is, translated, The Curse Word. Just your kind of joint.

  • plunkhead

    Dawg
    few people have discovered the joy that is Buccos.
    Joes Crab Shack does pasta

  • Prometheus

    Jennings needs to have a big game IMO. take pressure off of his QB.

  • Raiders for Life

    Reg already swung and missed with Flynn. He may be a little too gun shy to try it again in the same year. I think Reg passes, If freeman is available after the season then maybe.

  • plunkhead

    I just think Raider .org has already done their evaluations. They know what they want and what they have. Maybe we are just debating semantics

  • Papertiger

    Maybe it’s the past decade of losing, but I can’t help envisioning the worst-case scenario with this team and it’s players. Also, the O-line is a sieve and TP2 isn’t experienced enough yet to read the field.

    I’ll try to hope for the best, but I keep thinking we’ll have a Colt McCoy or David Carr situation.

  • The Beeeeech Dawg

    Thanks for the tip PT
    But the ho’s and I have reservations at Bucco Di Beppo all week
    Have you heard of this place? It’s authentic Italian cuisine and ambiance, there’s even a picture of the Eiffel Tower on the wall.

  • Raider O

    I’m not impressed with RM or his decision making abilities.

  • 0ak R8rs

    Well Pryor may well get hurt. But it won’t be because he gets hurt anymore than any other running QB. I have a feeling just about any QB would get murdered w our OL right now.

  • The Beeeeech Dawg

    Joe’s is tight, but all the chicks who eat there are hella fat
    Once cruised in there with the Certified Platinum Posse and we all ended up doing a group heave in the parking lot

  • Raider O

    The HC was fired. New HC and new staff as I remember.

  • Blackholepriest

    Designing runs for TP never really made sense to me. It’s best when he instinctively does it. TP desperately needs reps from the pocket to accelerate his development. The R/O is something you can add as a wrinkle yes. But not as a base and I have maintained this throughout his career here.
    If they allow him to get better from the pocket they will have a devastating weapon at QB. One that has not been seen before..”……period

  • Raider O

    LMAO.

  • The Beeeeech Dawg

    Hey OakDweeb, know how you always totally stike out with the ladies? Try taking a shorty to Bucco Di Beppo if you want to seal the deal. And wear a shirt that buttons down, not one of those tank tops with a cartoon character on the front.

  • Prometheus

    and why did olsen run with Pryor 4th quarter against dungver when the game was over? stupid playcalling like that doesn’t help. games over, protect your asset

  • 0ak R8rs

    I have 4 kids. And your still not funny and not amusing and completely pointless to this board or life in general.

    Nice to see you again……

  • Blackholepriest

    I remember Marcus Allen and how well he could pass, I would oft imagine what kind of QB would he have been if he were had stayed at that position. He was extremely smart and tough and a great leader.
    I see TP and I see the personification of that image in my head. TP to me is a bigger faster version of Marcus Allen at QB. Incidentally Marcus’s brother Damon actually played QB and thay is where my initial image comes from. Damon was a beast better than many NFL QB’s however he played in Canada. Because “he wasn’t good enough to play here” same Moon. Hopefully these kids never have to accept sloppy seconds again unstable because of skin color.

  • 0ak R8rs

    You know, that exact same play doesn’t seem to bother anyone when Pryor rips it for 35 yards. Let it go.

  • The Beeeeech Dawg

    Do you actually live with your kids? That probably explains why you’re such a grumpy goober all the time.

    The Dawg’s got 11 rugrats but most of them live in Vegas and Miami so he just checks out facebook to catch up on their doctor’s visits and graduations.

    Gotta keep it Dawg Fresh, know what I mean

  • r8rwill

    Teach priest..you are spot on….going to be fun to watch…love my raiders!!!!