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Seabass, King still a work in progress

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, October 25th, 2013 at 4:30 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Filed for print with additional notes. . .

Imagine a shortstop having worked with the same second baseman for 13 seasons and then being asked to turn a double plays with a rookie and you’ve got an idea how Sebastian Janikowski feels.

Marquette King isn’t technically a rookie, having spent last season on injured reserve, but he’s not Shane Lechler, either.

Six games into the season, Janikowski is still getting used to having someone other than Lechler as his place kick holder as the Raiders host the Pittsburgh Steelers Sunday at O.co Coliseum.

In a 24-7 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs preceding the bye week, Janikowski had his most surprising miss yet _ a 51-yard attempt that came up short in Arrowhead Stadium, his favorite kicking venue.

“I was kicking the ball great in warm-ups,’’ Janikowski said Friday. “I didn’t miss anything. I just love that place. There’s something about Kansas City.’’

And then?

“Right when it hit his foot, I heard it,’’ long-snapper Jon Condo said. “He didn’t make good contact.’’

“I was surprised,’’ Janikowski said. “I didn’t hit it real good and I kind of toed it.’’

That makes four misses for Janikowski in six games. In Week 1, he missed wide left from 48 yards after not having failed from 49 yards and in since 2011. Janikowski was 4-for-5 the following week against Jacksonville, but was wide left from 35 yards out, his first miss under 40 yards in 50 attempts.

Janikowski missed from 52 yards against Washington.

He missed only three field goal attempts last season, all from 50 yards or longer.

Raiders coach Dennis Allen, who like most everyone else thought Janikowski was back on track with field goals of 47 and 50 yards without a miss in a win over San Diego, was again extending another vote of confidence to his struggling kicker.

“Everybody goes through a little bit of a rough patch,’’ Allen said. “He obviously has. I think we all have pretty high expectations that every time he trots out there he’s going to kick it through the uprights.

“When you look up at the end of the year I think all of us will be pleased with the results we’ve seen out of him.’’

While King has worked diligently on his holding, and even put a balloon bouquet in front of Janikowski’s locker the day after the San Diego game, changing place kick holders has been a bigger issue than expected.

Most kickers have to get used to different holders a number of times in a career. This is the first time for Janikowski and he’s in his 14th season. Janikowski remembers things weren’t smooth with Lechler when both were rookies in 2000 when he was 22 of 32 on field goal attempts.

“You’ve got to understand, when Shane and I came out the first year I think we missed 10 field goals together,’’ Janikowski said. “It’s like being a rookie again, and I think you’ve just got to work with the guy and get that confidence and trust. It might be better Sunday. It might take two more weeks. I don’t know.’’

Condo said there are nuances to the process that came second-nature to Lechler and Janikowski built up through years that can’t be worked out with King in a mere matter of months.

“After 13 years, he gets used to Shane’s body mechanics and the way he moves,’’ Condo said. “Marquette or any other holder isn’t the same as Shane. It can be as small as how he reaches for the ball, something that Seabass catches out of the corner of his eye on his approach.

“It all comes down to getting reps together and we’re working on it as a unit, the three of us.’’

– Running back Darren McFadden is hoping Pittsburgh’s no-nonsense defense plus getting back center Stefen Wisniewski will help get the running game on track.

“You always know Pittsburgh is going to play hard-nosed defense,” McFadden. “That’ll be the case on Sunday, but we have some things that we want to do out there and hopefully make some big plays against them.”

“A physical game fits my style. It’s always good. I love running in these games. You wan tot be able to go out and show what you can do.”

– Offensive coordinator Greg Olson said Thursday he had just begun to see some of the explosiveness from Jacoby Ford that he’d heard about from others.

Ford, who has three carries for 8 yards and seven receptions for 55 yards, believes he’s been good to go since the beginning of the season and is waiting for his turn.

“It’s just been a matter of trying to figure out different ways to get the ball in my hands and on special teams,” Ford said. `That’s been something we’ve been exploring around with this week.”

Ford agrees he’s still proving himself to a new staff.

“They saw what I did in the past but now it’s time to go and show what you can do now,” Ford said. “That’s what I try to do whenever I get the ball in my hands, I just try to make a positive play every time so the ball just keeps finding my hands more and more.”

– Right tackle Tony Pashos (hip), guard-center Andre Gurode (knee) and tackle Menelik Watson (knee) did not practice and were listed as doubtful, meaning they are highly unlikely to face Pittsburgh.

The Raiders will probably promote tackle Jack Cornell from the practice squad Saturday for line depth, meaning they’ll have to release a player.

Center Stefen Wisniewski (knee) was limited but listed as probable. Cornerback Tracy Porter (shoulder) had full participation and is listed as probable. Linebacker Kaluka Maiava (hamstring) is questionable and safety Tyvon Branch (ankle) is out.

– Former Raiders quarterback Rich Gannon was at practice Friday as part of the CBS television crew which will broadcast the game.

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  • r8ter4evr

    Norv is the man as a Qb mentor gotta give him that

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Levi Damien‏@LeviDamien3m

    No real surprises in #Raiders inactives. Criner inactive again. Has been all season. DA said new LB Martez Wilson not playing this week.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • plunkhead

    Soup short of the sticks for a first down!

  • KoolKell

    Did Soup do something good? Wow

    (Sarcasm)

  • c2e

    go brownies

  • 0ak R8rs

    I wouldn’t let a homeless person wear a JaWalrus jersey. Completely undignified.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Steve Corkran‏@CorkOnTheNFL2m

    #Raiders starting offensive line vs. Steelers today, left to right: Khalif Barnes, Lucas Nix, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Brisiel, Matt McCants.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    That is just one amazing starting OL.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Cleveland has 16 yards rushing on 9 carries.
    Chiefs with a hundred more rushing yards.
    Balance-schmalance

  • Dakota

    I have heard Brees and Eli Manning both yell Omaha before a snap…..really?

  • KoolKell

    Nope that was 0bama they yelled.

  • c2e

    must have been a misdirection then

  • 0ak R8rs

    IMO there r positives all over the place. Your entitled to your opinion, but you could lighten up a little. Especially on game day.

  • KoolKell

    Lol.

  • JOn Wooah

    Lets get real.. Its Jason Campbell balling out.. not Norv Turner.. josh gordon has 124 yards on 4 REC.. the DEEP ball i kept talking about Cambell having.. UM yah he can throw it well. .See Danrious Moore and FORD when he was here.

    HE was always the better raider qb then Palmer. PERIOD.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    A decent Raider renaissance might allow for a better radio contract. The only Bay Area radio station that carries the Raiders is an FM station that I can’t even get on my radio in the East Bay. Have tried over and over to pick up 95.7. Can’t. Have to listen to the pre-game on computer and my laptop gets hot.
    Damn shame. We are reduced to the equivalent of the coverage of single A ball when it comes to radio.

  • Dakota

    hmmmm, I think a lot of those yards came after the catch.

  • JOn Wooah

    Anyone see Kaepernick crushing teams with that Read option now?? Um why?? i see 1st rounder Joe Staley Mauling the DE.. IAUPUATI 1st roudner mauling his guy.. then Vernon Davis (Pro Bowlers handling the COrner)

    Tp2 would love to have that.. except he has Kalif ( i let my man By) Lucas Nix (udfa) and Mastrud LMAO…

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Get a grip already.
    I’m 6000 miles away and listen to it every day since they are on the internet.

  • marks hair

    am I allowed to officially say Watson is soft without everyone getting b*** hurt about it yet?

  • r8ter4evr

    One game and he is the second coming of John Unitas pleae he will always be a backup

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    You ever had a knee injury?

  • KoolKell

    Say what you want bro. I kinda agree.

  • r8ter4evr

    Now your talking reality

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Lots of good morning games on not televised in BArea.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    HP laptop has already burned out one fan—don’t want to pay for another, bud.

  • RaidingTexas

    30 more minutes, Nation!!! GAME TIME

  • r8ter4evr

    Redzone

  • Just Fire Baby

    Agree he was a better RAIDER QB.
    Soup had some REAL leadership qualities that young team needed.
    Palmer…not so much.

  • RaidingTexas

    Is he out? What a drag. Wiz back? I haven’t seen the Inactive list yet.

  • Raider O

    I think Josh Gordon is available for trade.
    Should we do it?

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    No problem.
    You have to have wifi.
    I bought this Sansui internet pocket-sized radio on Amazon and listen to them on that–along with a bunch of other stations.
    It cost around fifty bucks.

  • 0ak R8rs

    Agreed. Then again, Jay Schraeder was a better Raider QB than the quitting/choking/loser.

  • Raider O

    He is SOFT!

  • RaidingTexas

    Not sure who would disagree with you. I always liked JC. But Palmer was brought in because Campbell got injured.

  • Just Fire Baby

    That’s not a bad drive from the Browns, got a few first downs, rest the D, flip field position

  • Raider O

    Was that the same injury he had in preseason?

  • 0ak R8rs

    I don’t think he’s on the block. He the kinda WR you can build around.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    Believe so O.

  • Dakota

    Brady the running QB!

  • RaidingTexas

    Audio stream burns up your laptop? You need a new laptop.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Wow. Papa and group talking about the Terrible Towels in the stadium. That NEVER used to occur. NEVER.

  • Dakota

    I thought he had a calf injury again, not a knee.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Decided to pour my first Captain drink…..and realized it might be the first hard liquor drink of the season for your buddy.
    And it tastes like victory!!!!!

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    I thought I read it was a knee injury…
    Maybe he is just in it for the check.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Thanks. I’ll look into getting one.

  • 0ak R8rs

    It’s a calf. Same calf. Reaggravated twice. Also minor knee surgery. A disaster health wise.

  • Dakota

    New post!

  • KoolKell

    BRUCE. Lol.

  • Chino

    They make up another rule for the Brady bunch?

  • RaidingTexas

    Azzhole.