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Pryor bristles at suggestion he needs to prove his game well-rounded

It wasn’t so long ago when people wondered whether the Raiders would create a package of plays that would take advantage of Terrelle Pryor’s superior running ability. Then came Pryor’s meteoric transformation from a project into a legitimate NFL starter.
Sure, Pryor has started only seven games during his two-plus NFL seasons — six of those came this season — but that’s enough of a sample size for people to get the point that Pryor is more than a runner.
“We’re a little past that,” Pryor said, when asked whether he is eager to prove that he is more than a running quarterback. “You can go watch against the Broncos and a couple of other teams. I threw the ball very well. I’m not really into trying to prove anything to anybody.”
Pryor said all he cares about is winning games. If it means running 93 yards on a quarterback keeper or throwing a well-placed pass to Rod Streater, as he did on the first play of the game against the Chargers, Pryor’s focus is upon winning games these days.
And he certainly isn’t in the mood to hear any criticism about how the Raiders passing game has languished among the least productive in the league all season on the heels of a win over the Pittsburgh Steelers.
“It’s all about getting a win,” Pryor said. “At the end of the day, we got a win. You’re not going to question me for winning the game. Now if we lost and had that bad game, yeah, but winning … ”
Pryor paused, smiled, leaned into the microphone and ended his news conference by saying, “Just win baby.”
Eagles coach Chip Kelly apparently doesn’t need any convincing about Pryor being a well-rounded quarterback.
“They’re doing a lot more things with him as a passer,” Kelly said. “He seems like he wants to stay in the pocket and throw the ball. He’s that package that you worry about as a defensive group because he can throw it, but he can also tuck it down and make some really good plays. He’s obviously a very big threat, and we need to make sure we contain him.”
Just don’t fence him in and call him a running quarterback, coach.

– Linebacker Miles Burris practiced today for the first time since last season ended. Soon thereafter, he said he feels confident that he’s going to be activated to the 53-man roster at some point within the next three weeks.
That’s the time frame the Raiders have to decide whether Burris is healthy enough to warrant a spot on the 53-man roster. If not, their other choices are to place Burris on season-ending injured reserve or release Burris.
As far as Burris is concerned, there isn’t any question how this is going to turn out.
“I feel very confident,” Burris said. “Whenever I’m out there, I’m confident. As a football player, you kind of have to.”
Burris said he just wants to help the Raiders however he can, even if that means special teams.

– Left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer met with a doctor in Los Angeles on Monday. On Wednesday, he said everything is going well and that he’s “on track” for a return soon.
Allen said on track means “soon” and that the initial prognosis called for Veldheer to miss three months with the torn triceps.
Veldheer suffered the injury one week into training camp and underwent surgery Aug. 14. Therefore, he’s coming up on three months for both dates.
Still, Allen said, it’s going to take a little more time for Veldheer to get back into the swing of taking on blockers, getting into football shape and getting ready to play in a game for the first time since last season.

– Menelik Watson fared pretty well at practice today, Allen said. He is going to get reps at left and right tackle, given he might be needed to either spot.
Watson worked at left tackle with the second-team offense at practice today.
“Both those guys looked fairly decent out there at practice,” Allen said of Watson and Burris. “We’ll continue to evaluate them as the week goes on. That was good to see to have those guys back out there. Those guys can help us.”
The interesting part comes when Veldheer and Watson are healthy enough to play.
We know that Veldheer pushes Khalif Barnes out of the left tackle spot. From there, it’s anyone’s guess.
Barnes has fared well at left tackle, and he’s the incumbent right tackle. Still, Tony Pashos has played well at right tackle after being signed out of desperation near the end of training camp.
It’s likely that Barnes will go back to right tackle, with Pashos and Watson serving as backups, at least in the short term.
Another scenario involves Pashos or Watson playing right tackle and Barnes converting to guard.
Allen said Wednesday that the injuries to Pashos and Andre Gurode appear to be short-term ones as of now, though he isn’t quite sure when either might return.

– Eagles coach Chip Kelly recruited Pryor to play for Oregon University when Pryor was one of the most sought after high school players.
Ultimately, Pryor accepted a scholarship to Ohio State, where he guided the Buckeyes to a victory over Kelly’s Oregon team in the Rose Bowl.
Pryor completed 20 of 37 passes for 266 yards and two touchdowns that game, and he rushed 20 times for 72 yards.
He was tempted to take his talents to Eugene — OK, so it’s not quite South Beach — but, in the end, he decided to play close to home so that his mother could attend his games.
“I loved his personality,” Pryor said of Kelly. “I loved the fire he brought to the game. He came to my high school and spent a lot of time at my high school, showing me uniforms and showing me the playbook, some of the stuff that he likes, that he runs. It was very interesting and intriguing.”

– Wide receiver Andre Holmes was on the field for more snaps than Jacoby Ford and Brice Butler against the Steelers. That’s not an anomaly. It’s by design.
“Obviously we want to try to continue to get him involved. Right now, I feel good about the wide receiver position. I want to see a little bit more consistency, but that’s not too much different than the rest of the football team.
“He’s a big-bodied guy. He had a really good preseason. He obviously missed a lot of time with the suspension so he’s still getting back into the groove of the offense a little bit, but he’s a guy that can help us.”
It also helps Holmes from the standpoint that when Ford and Butler did play they stood out more for what they didn’t do than for making positive plays.
Ford fumbled at the end of a short reception, not to mention fumbling a punt and coming close to muffing another punt. Butler clanked one pass right on the money and had another hit off his hands and wind up in the arms of a Steelers defender.

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  • Jon Train

    Even though I agree with you…fact is that our WR group needs help just like our OL group. One elite player at either position group changes everything.

  • Raider O

    I guess you think B Favre has a good IQ. I’m not surprised. Compared to you a monkey has a high IQ.

  • Raider O

    Targeted 5 times?! That’s the case when you have guys like Moore and Streater. C Johnson was targeted 19 times against the Cowboys. Cleveland invested a lot in their OL. Are they a POs team?

  • Raider O

    We lost our LT, our 2nd Round OT didn’t play, OGs got injured, and we still manage to win games. Great OLs are overrated. You need a good OL to win games but you don’t need a great OL to go to the SB.
    Giants, Steelers, Colts, etc.. Won the SB with below avg- avg OLs.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Cleveland, Minny and Jax have by far and away invested more top round picks in their O-line than any other teams.
    Packers haven’t. Neither have the Saints. Donkeys have Clady at LT, then a bunch of UDFA and Tony Pashos types.

  • Jon Train

    Cleveland is two or three players away from being a contender. Unfortunately, one of those positions is QB. But they are set up very nicely for this offseason.

  • Jon Train

    Three teams with shyt for their QBs.

    Remember, QBs come FIRST.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Look at the Saints 1st round picks.
    Safety, DB, RB, WR, CB, DT, DE,
    No O-line

  • Raider O

    Don’t forget the Eagles when Andy was there.

  • Jon Train

    Keep it real. Who is their line, where were they drafted, and how good are they?

    Don’t just cherry pick examples that provide a moniker of support for your thesis.

  • Carl weathers

    All positions can be found in the later rounds. Some teams scout certain positions better than others and are able to wait until rounds 4 and on to get their guy. Look at all the olinemen take in the first round this year. but it all doesn’t matter because Reggie is gonna pick BPA! ;)

  • Jon Train

    Right. You can argue all day about draft position…but the bottom line is whether or not you hit on draft picks.

  • Carl weathers

    What WR did the Saints take in the first rd? Just curious because I know Colston was 6 or 7..

  • R8erEduc8er

    Per PFT,

    Eagles at Raiders

    MDS’s take: Everyone has spent so much time in the last couple weeks asking what’s wrong with Chip Kelly’s offense that a lot of people are overlooking all the problems with the Eagles’ defense. When you can’t even force a turnover against the Giants’ offense — and the Eagles’ defense couldn’t last week — you know something is wrong. Raiders quarterback Terrelle Pryor makes his share of mistakes, but the Eagles don’t have the defense to take advantage of those mistakes. Pryor will make enough big plays with his feet to win this one and make Kelly wish he had a quarterback like Pryor.

    MDS’s pick: Raiders 20, Eagles 10.

    Florio’s take: The Raiders complete a rare two-game sweep of Pennsylvania’s pro football teams without ever having to leave the Bay Area. All four NFC West teams will be at or above .500 come Sunday, thanks to their ability to pulverize the teams of the NFC East.

    Florio’s pick: Raiders 17, Eagles 9.

  • Raider O

    Look at how teams view the value of OL.
    LTs: top salaries and high draft picks (top 10)
    RTs: good salaries, late 1st round and 2nd round
    C & OGs: avg salaries, you can find them in mid- late rounds

  • Raider O

    Robert Meachem.

  • Charlie

    I have been saying rounds 1-3. HIGH ROUND PICKS!!!
    The Saints; Charles Brown starting LT SECOND ROUND pick 2010.
    They also spent:
    2013 3rd round OT and DT
    2012 3rd round DE
    2011 1st round DE
    Give it up JFB. Your theory is simply not used by anyone in the NFL .
    The vast majority of NFL games are won and lost on the line of scrimmage.

  • Charlie

    JFB

    I have been saying rounds 1-3. HIGH ROUND PICKS!!!
    The Saints; Charles Brown starting LT SECOND ROUND pick 2010.
    They also spent:
    2013 3rd round OT and DT
    2012 3rd round DE
    2011 1st round DE
    Give it up JFB. Your theory is simply not used by anyone in the NFL .
    The vast majority of NFL games are won and lost on the line of scrimmage.

  • Raider O

    You said OL. We are talking about OL. DEs have more value than OGs and Cs.
    In the last 3 years, they drafted ONE OL in the 3RD round according to you.

  • Jon Train

    Yeah. Every NFL GM knows you need a QB, then build from the inside out….IDEALLY.

    But ideally isn’t always possible. If you feel like your top rated WR is a can’t miss prospect, you take him instead of an OL who maybe is third on your board. But every position really is a crapshoot which is what makes it so interesting.

  • Charlie

    Reggie says BPA. The reality is EVERY position group was drafted in our 2013 draft. That is not a coincidence and is not purely BPA.
    Reggie drafts BPA based upon a priortized need.

  • The_Judge37

    Nobody beats a dead horse like you Chuck, I’ll give you that

  • 8raiderreign8

    Good post.

  • Jon Train

    Can’t speak for Charlie, but to me…after QB, overall trench play is most important. That includes OL, DL, and LBs.

  • The_Judge37

    Pryor paused, smiled, leaned into the microphone and ended his news conference by saying, “Just win baby.”
    —-
    Smoove Move TP2, Smoove Move

  • Raider O

    You said OL. We are talking about OL. DEs have more value than OGs and Cs.
    In the last 3 years, they drafted ONE OL in the 3RD round according to you.
    Great OLs are overrated in today’s game. Best example is the Vikings and Browns. You need QBs and people than can catch (WRs/ TEs)

  • Just Fire Baby

    O-line dude, not sure why you keep throwing D-line in the convo. (love how now 3rd round picks are great for the O-line now all of sudden. Thought it used to be just 1st and 2nd).
    You also realize Charles Brown has been a massive bust so far right? He is finally playing after 3 years of doing nothing.
    I have said repeatedly D-line is the 2nd most important position in football.
    The only way to stop a passing offense, and then you aren’t really “stopping” them as much as maybe get a sack-fumble, a 3rd down pressure to get off the field and maybe create ax extra possession.

  • Jon Train

    QBs first. Trenches second. Perimeter players after that.

    OLs DLs and LBs can never be overrated.

    Most free agent busts are WRS and secondary.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Agreed. But I think o-linemen talent pool is decreasing. Big, athletic men that can backpedal and block even bigger and more athletic defensive linemen are hard to come by. Who was the best offensive linemen in the past draft? I would have to say Cooper in Arizona. Arizona is not benefiting from Cooper’s talent because he’s injured, just like our top linemen. We won’t know if o-line is our biggest need until we get our line healthy. I’d go pass rusher or WR in round 1.

  • Carl weathers

    The top 2 players taken in this years draft are playing right tackle.(#1 overall is now hurt but WAS playing RT) Both tackle positions are becoming equally important.

  • Raider O

    Look at their MV. WRs make more than OGs and Cs.
    A lot of the busts are WRs, CBs, and QB, but teams continue to invest high picks on these positions. Do you know why? It’s a passing league, and you can’t win unless you pass and able to stop it, so teams will continue to invest high picks on QBs, WRs, CBs, DEs, and OTs.

  • Raider O

    They are playing RT this year, but they were drafted to play LTs. You know that.

  • Theghostronin79

    You could change your avatar to “Fozzy Bear” and I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.

  • The_Judge37

    In reality, there is no one position group of more importance than the other, QB included. Teams need a balance through out the team, From Coaching, to Offense, Defense and ST.

  • Charlie

    JFB
    Read it. SECOND ROUND PICK IN 2010 NOW THE SAINTS STARTING LT. Charles Brown.
    You must RUN and pass to win in the NFL.
    How many times did the niners throw last week?????? (16) AND THEY WON.
    My point continues to be focus. You must draft well.
    Anyone that watches the Raiders and knows football sees the need for oline help. This season should make it obvious for even you.

  • The_Judge37

    How many times did we throw last week and WIN? I guess we’re set then right?

  • Carl weathers

    Oh ya, the saints don’t do very well with their 1st rounders. Provong that it doesn’t matter where you draft players as long as you find good ones.

  • Raider O

    I disagree.
    1- QB
    2- OTs and DEs
    3- WRs, CBs, RBs, and LBs
    4- OG, C, DTs, Ss, and TEs
    5- FBs

  • Jon Train

    Absolutely its a passing league. Im not coming from an old school smash mouth mentality. My point is that all things being equal, wrs and cbs tend to be overvalued and overpayed by some teams.

    The best example is the Patriots by FAR AND AWAY the best franchise of the free agent era. Their personnel decisions seem to support the idea that QB OL DL and LB (not to mention coaching) have the most value in todays market.

  • The_Judge37

    Well it is within your right to be wrong. I can respect that choice.

  • Jon Train

    And Bill Belichek disagrees with you :) ..I would rather emulate his model than anyone elses.

  • Raider Rocker

    You mean modicum, as in a small amount. A moniker is a name.

  • Raider O

    Not really. Look at his draft the last 4 years. No DTs, OGs, Cs, or FBs in the top 4 picks.

  • Charlie

    JFB

    You keep referring to “todays game”.
    Nothing about “todays game” is new.
    Only the frequency of use is different.
    The spread option is simply a variation of the Wing T, Flexbone, I option and Wishbone options that have been used since the 30′s.

    The shotgun formation-SEE BELOW

    The shotgun evolved from the single wing and the similar double-wing spread; famed triple
    threat man Sammy Baugh has claimed that the shotgun was effectively the same as
    the version of the double-wing he ran at Texas Christian University in the 1930s.[1]

    The formation was named by the man who actually
    devised it, San Francisco 49ers
    coach Red Hickey, in 1960.[2] John Brodie was the first NFL
    shotgun quarterback, beating out former starter Y. A.
    Tittle largely because he was mobile enough to
    effectively run the formation.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Saints run less than anybody in the NFL.
    Might win the Super Bowl.
    Charles Brown stinks. He isn’t better than Khalif Barnes, who was also a 2nd round pick.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Ad Nauseum

  • Raider O

    Most of his top 4 picks are pass rushers and DBs.

  • The_Judge37

    Yeah, I remember when Bart Starr used to run the Pistol. And Johnny Unitas was unstoppable out of the Read Option.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Today’s game as in today’s rules. Can’t hit a WR, basically anywhere. Can’t touch them after 5 yards. PI being called a record pace.

  • Jon Train

    Huh? Because they already took care of business at those positions!! Wilfork and Mankins are the best at their positions!

    Look at who they pay…and who they let walk.