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By Jon Becker
Wednesday, October 30th, 2013 at 12:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.

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  • Rico Stifler

    ok, cool.

  • krawf

    yayyyy for you,heres a cookie

  • The Big Banana

    Oh, I remember it well. I was critical of the Routt deal from the outset, and those loons threw out all sorts of stats to prove me wrong. Lol at stat junkies. I know what I see.

  • http://www.cosmicdanceband.com/ SilverandBlack666

    That is exactly my point about your 6-1 ff team. Glad you got it.

  • http://www.cosmicdanceband.com/ SilverandBlack666

    Deep down you are scared of how much my team can score…

  • seymour bush

    Something tells me it will be 20 years before the Ravens pick up another Raider defensive cast off.

  • KoolKell

    In the first half, the Raiders scored 21 points and had 239 yards of total offense. Quarterback Terrelle Pryor started the game with a 93-yard touchdown run, setting the NFL record for longest touchdown run by a quarterback.

    However, in the second half the Raiders had seven drives that resulted in six punts and a lost fumble. They accumulated just 30 yards of total offense and allowed the Steelers to climb back into the game.

    This is a recurring theme for the Raiders offense, as they have jumped to a 14-0 lead three times this season, only to stall and allow the other team to get back into the game. In those three game, the Raiders are 2-1 but it is not a measure for sustained success.

    It seems like the Raiders try to hold their lead instead of trying to build on it, using a more conservative offense to avoid mistakes. The team must try to break away from that mold and continue to run its normal offense in order to keep drives alive and put more points on the board.

    http://www.raiderstribune.com/

  • RediaR

    Stats need context.

  • Jon Train

    It actually is innovative. Olsen designed it that way it worked to perfection.

    Look we’ve tried reverse passes back to Pryor twice, wildcat stuff for DMAC and Jacoby. These are innovative, creative plays. If the players execute properly, its considered genius.

    I agree with you we need to be more versatile NO DOUBT. But I think you’re taking Olsen to task a little bit too much. At the end of the day its the execution of these plays that matter.

  • RediaR

    The Pitt game is the only game this season where drops were prevalent.

  • Jon Train

    Like I said, it was “their turn” to screw up.

    Good offenses have players that execute consistently. It only takes one person to screw up a play. For us, it seems like Nix will screw up, but then when he doesn’t, it’s Pryor. When he doesn’t, it’s Barnes. When he doesn’t, it’s Butler. When he doesn’t….and on and on. Our D had this problem last year.

    When guys break that cycle, we get the first half against San Diego.

  • seymour bush

    The idiot that wrote that sounds a lot like some of you clowns. But let’s have a look at reality, shall we? In the second half, after a long sustained drive by Sh**sburgh, that resulted in no points Olson opted to throw the ball on third down. Pryor rolled to his left, and Ike Taylor the 12 year vet pro bowl corner was perfectly stationed between the WR and Pryor. Pryor could try to get some valuable yardage or just throw it away he is not going to get the lst down. But no, he tries to fit it into the WR, with Taylor blanketed him, and Polumalu in hot pursuit. The ball bounces in the air, Polamolu gets a hand on it, but miraculously, it lands on the ground. And you all want to see more of this?

  • Jon Train

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  • KoolKell

    2) The Raiders’ overreliance on the run almost cost them the game.

    It’s one thing to lean on the run late in games because you’re eating up not only yardage but the clock. The Raiders, however, were accomplishing neither, and it allowed the Steelers to pull themselves back into a game in which they at one point trailed 21-3.

    The Raiders seemed content to repeatedly ram Darren McFadden into the teeth of Pittsburgh’s defensive line. Not only was the offensive line getting very little push, but McFadden’s ugly habit of going down on first contact popped up again after he looked sharp in the first half. This one could just be chalked up to predictable play calling. Even when the Raiders did put the ball in Terrelle Pryor’s hands, it was often to attempt a read option run. Pryor only attempted 6 passes in the second half, which is absurd even if the Raiders receivers were struggled to secure the ball.http://news.profootballspot.com/_/nfl/afc-west/raiders-vs-steelers-3-observations-r999

  • SnBG

    Not until the Oline gets better, Pryor learns more of the playbook and can pass better,DMC runs better,Ford is gone and we get a big time WR and more O lineman. Has nothing to do with the coaches. They can’t call a diverse O if the players can’t execute.

  • Jon Train

    No. I wanna see how TP, and other players, progresses through the rest of the year.

  • rifflicks

    Who gives a rat’s patoot?

  • The Beeeeech Dawg

    Awesome cut and paste job, Old Troll! You sure have mastered your new iPad

  • SnBG

    That’s reality. Live with it gents and ladies until we fix these issues.

  • http://Raiders.com/ Dan78

    As long as Cork doesn’t touch the issue and picks us we still have a chance……

  • SnBG

    Right, let the O turn the ball over again as it has done so many times. Best to run it in that situation, that way unless DMC fumbles Pryor can’t throw an int or Ford can’t drop the ball or Butler doesn’t get the chance to be afraid in the middle and drop balls. Sure lets not run the ball.

  • KoolKell

    The Raiders seemed content to repeatedly ram Darren McFadden into the teeth of Pittsburgh’s defensive line. Not only was the offensive line getting very little push, but McFadden’s ugly habit of going down on first contact popped up again after he looked sharp in the first half. This one could just be chalked up to predictable play calling. Even when the Raiders did put the ball in Terrelle Pryor’s hands, it was often to attempt a read option run. Pryor only attempted 6 passes in the second half, which is absurd even if the Raiders receivers were struggled to secure the

    ball.http://news.profootballspot.com/_/nfl

  • Jon Train

    good point.

  • SnBG

    It was Pryor,Ford and Butler that almost cost us the game. The coaches saved the team from another heartbreaker. Relying on the 6th ranked D that only allows 90 yrds a game sounds smart to me.

  • KoolKell

    Even when the Raiders did put the ball in Terrelle Pryor’s hands, it was often to attempt a read option run. Pryor only attempted 6 passes in the second half, which is absurd even if the Raiders receivers were struggled to secure the ball

    http://news.profootballspot.com/_/nfl/afc-west/raiders-vs-steelers-3-observations-r999

  • SnBG

    Games like this past Sunday against the Pittsburgh Steelers, where the offense sputters after a fast start, are ones that Raiders teams of seasons past would not be able to hold on to and win.This year, with a system that continues to develop under the watch of both Allen and Tarver, the Raiders defense has the ability to take over when needed, getting key stops and forcing timely turnovers

  • KoolKell

    Pryor only attempted 6 passes in the second half, which is absurd even if the Raiders receivers were struggled to secure the ball

  • SnBG

    As with any organization in professional sports, leadership plays a pivotal role in success. What the Raiders have been able to do so far in 2013 has opened eyes across the league, and they could very well continue on that path throughout this season, and into the future.Credit for which starts at the top, and the Raiders have found the coach to build their team with moving forward in Dennis Allen.

  • SnBG

    Maybe in time Pryor can play better and the coaches can put the team on his shoulders but right now is not the time.

  • Blackholepriest

    How do they score in the first half if they’re too incompetent to score in the second half. Some of you are so bent on criticizing TP you utter some of stupidest crap imaginable.
    They can run a great offense in the second half if the coaching staff anticipates adjustments.
    It’s common sense if have an ounce of creativity. No one can just shut this team down if they’re aggressively attacking. You have to decide to shut down………..period

  • Blackholepriest

    If they want to they can continue to score throughout the game it’s just a matter of how do you WANT to approach the game. This is not a matter of getting STOPPED it’s a matter PLAYCALLING…………..period

  • plunkhead

    Chris Webber sounds sharp. He spoke well of the Warriors.

  • seymour bush

    In the second half against shi**sburgh Pryor was 3/6 for 25 yards, 3 sacks, and Fords fumble, which occured on one of the completions. And that is after the two picks he threw in the lst half. And you want to put the rock in his hand more?

  • SnBG

    Cause Pryor and the O are limited in what they can do so teams adjust and Pryor can’t execute the full playbook. That’s why son.Period

  • seymour bush

    Right, I forgot. It’s always something. The oline, the RB. the WR drops, the playcalling, the head coach. It’s everyone but the lowest rated Q in the league.

  • http://Raiders.com/ Dan78

    They need to play Criner….. The two have chemistry playing together in training camp and OTA’s…..

  • Rico Stifler
  • SnBG

    We are dead last in passing. It shows with the way the O throws the ball and others on the O make mistakes. You’re just blind to accepting that Pryor right now can’t execute the full playbook. Face it, Pryor has his strengths and he has his weaknesses. Maybe he’s you’re god but he still needs to prove he can play.

  • Blackholepriest

    This one idiot attemptingt to make it an issue of TP learning more of the playbook is just stupid. Playbook has zero to do with it. It isa matter of trusting the young talent………….the staff needs to grow a pair………period

  • Nick Gancayco

    Wndoesnt need to prove he can play. He’s definitely proved he can play. He does need to continue to improve a lot.

  • Gdog

    Anyone that has played any sports knows what its like to be underutilized. Its tough to get going…

    Tell me how many sports you played…

  • SnBG

    The NFL is all about comparisons — especially on the weekends when teams line up to compare themselves against each other, with violence involved. The NFL also publishes weekly statistics that compare players, at every position and in every category.In my mind, therefore, it is fair game to gauge where Pryor is in relation to the other quarterbacks of his generation. Pryor is 24. That makes him a year older than Washington’s Griffin, a year younger than the 49ers’ Kaepernick and the same age as Seattle’s Russell Wilson and Indianapolis’ Andrew Luck.

    News flash: He isn’t as good as any of those guys.

  • seymour bush

    I am positive I have played at a much more advanced level than you have. Or ever will. And Xbox doesn’t count.

  • Gdog

    Tough to do when the coaches throw away the playbook with any sort of lead, bubs… funny how well he plays before that happens… hmmmm…

  • Blackholepriest

    See more BUSH you’re about as dumb as a box o rocks… If they did think he could do it. Why start him??
    He has more guts than the entire team, they need to let him lead if they want to win…….period

  • SnBG

    BS son. Period

  • SnBG

    Sunday, the biggest issue was that after his 93-yard run and some good middle-distance completions that led to the Raiders’ second touchdown, he was not very effective. He still has difficulty with accuracy when he’s moving out of the pocket to his left. It led to one of his two interceptions Sunday.

  • KoolKell

    It’s a racial shot, bro.

  • Blackholepriest

    It wasn’t TP turning the ball over it was everyone else dropping passes and fumbling. He would’ve won this game going away if they performed.

  • SnBG

    I don’t judge my coaches,” Pryor answered. “Whatever they call, I believe in. To me, it made sense that we would hold the ball and try to run and get first downs because our defense was shutting them down.”