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Raiders notes: Hayden sidelined with groin strain

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, November 7th, 2013 at 5:55 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Rookie cornerback DJ Hayden missed practice Thursday with a groin strain and is no lock to play for the Raiders against the New York Giants.

Allen said Hayden was injured during Wednesday’s practice but he didn’t find out about until after he was done talking with the media.

“We’ll have to evaluate him and see how he’s doing and see how quickly that thing responds,’’ Allen said.

The Raiders play the Giants Sunday at MetLife Stadium.

Hayden said Wednesday he was looking forward to getting back on the field after giving up three passes for 139 yards and two touchdowns in coverage in a 49-20 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles.

The Raiders’ nickel cornerback, Hayden plays on the outside with Tracy Porter moving into the slot when opponents use three receivers. The Giants have three wide receiver sets featuring Hakeen Nicks, Victor Cruz and Rueben Randle.

If Hayden can’t play, Phillip Adams will be the nickel corner. Adams has two interceptions for the Raiders last season when pressed into action because of injuries.

“We’ve got all the confidence in the world in P.A.,’’ Allen said. “When he came in last year and had an opportunity to play, he played real well. That’ bee an easy transition for us.’’

– Running back Rashad Jennings is uninterested in re-living his first 100-yard game since 2010 given the end result.

Jennings subbed for Darren McFadden in the second quarter and had positive yardage on each of his 15 carries, finishing with 102 yards. He’ll likely be the feature back against the Giants as McFadden missed his second day of practice with a hamstring strain.

“It felt like it was supposed to,’’ Jennings said. “Like I always tell you guys _ you’re called to duty, you go make plays. Regardless of that, the outcome was we lost. (We) didn’t do enough. However you slice it or dice it, we go out there to play games to win.’’

Jennings has remained consistent with that theme since he arrived at training camp. He repeated it during a community outing Tuesday to students.

“One thing I left them was, when I was in high school, I always kept a quote, `When opportunity presents itself, it’s too late to prepare for it,’ ‘’ Jennings said. “So every day, be prepared to be that guy.’’
Quarterback Terrelle Pryor said“We saw Rashad make a lot of guys miss and run over a lot of guys,’’ Jennings said. “We’er definitely going to miss Darren because he may miss the game, but I have a lot of trust in Jennings and I believe he can get the job done.’’

Jennings has been a mainstay on special teams, blocking a pair of punts as well as recovering an onside kick to seal the win over Pittsburgh.

– Getting the ball Marcel Reece has been a weekly topic, with everyone from general manager Reggie McKenzie to Allen to offensive coordinator Greg Olson at one time or another conceding their Pro Bowl fullback has been underutilized.

Through eight games, Pryor 13 carries for 57 yards and 12 receptions for 108 yards _ 25 touches for 165 yards and one touchdown.

Last season, Reece had 59 carries for 271yards and 52 receptions for 496 yards on 16 games. _ more than double the work load on a per game basis.

Pryor said part of the reason is opponents are guarding Reece with a cornerback.

“A corner on Marcel, not to say he can’t do it, but it’s very tough,’’ Pryor said. “Marcel is a great match-up versus a linebaqcker or a safety and we’re not really getting a lot of those looks.’’

– Aside from Hayden and McFadden, those who didn’t practice Thursday were wide receiver Juron Criner (shoulder), safety Tyvon Branch (ankle), linebacker Kaluka Maiava (ribs), tackle Matt McCants (toe), and tackle Tony Pashos (hip).

Sebastian Janikowski (ribs) was limited, got in some kicking and will play. Guard-center Andre Gurode (knee) was limited and Allen isn’t sure if he’ll reclaim his left guard spot from Lucas Nix.

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  • KoolKell

    Did I read that right, Jason Campbell AFC Player of the Week?

  • Raider O

    He helped us win 3 games so far. We can’t blame OL injuries and lack of playmakers on TP. Look at his WRs and TE:
    Streater: undrafted
    Moore : 5th round
    Butler: 7th round
    Criner: 5th round
    Ford: 4th round
    Holmes: undrafted
    Rivera: 6th round

  • Raider O

    Notice I said coaches and media 1st, but you ignored that part for some reason.

  • SnBG

    Good morning nation.
    Fix the lines. A pass rusher will help
    If it looks like Hulk,Bergs,Wiz,Briesel and Watson can’t get it done then get an O lineman next draft.
    We have the corners to play especially when we have a pass rush. We’ve been hybridizing our way to the QB now it’s time to get that rusher unless Pryor doesn’t work out. If that’s the case then we need to draft a QB first.

  • Charlie

    RR/HB

    No quick fix as I have said many times. Reggie and DA have four year deals because this is not a two year fix.

    They are both here next year.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Lee_Higgins RaiderRockstar

    skill players, Bridges. thats right. offensive playmakers. QB/RB/WR/TE = win games

  • Raider O

    We are not going to draft an OG in the 1st when we don’t have good WRs, TEs, RBs, and we need a pass rusher. We can find an OG in later rounds or FA.

  • Theghostronin79

    Your philosophy was on display last night at the Farm.

  • RediaR

    Well, what the coaches (and GM) know will become apparent with their actions in the off season.

    The media, from what I’ve seen, has backed off of their initial “ooing” and “awing” of Pryor from him not being as horrible as they assumed.

  • Theghostronin79

    yep

  • NewEra S&B

    Jared Allen, Justin Tuck, and Michael Bennet will all be FA next year. And none of them are washed up. I’d say we take a receiver in the first (Mike Evans) because this year is chock full of first rounders, and take a DE in the latter rounds. We’ll find some production out of those fourth rounders, we seem to consistently do. Second round, I like a guard. Depth depth depth.

  • SnBG

    To play the Giants we must get back to the blitzing ways of the D. Manning has one of the quickest releases in the league. We can’t sit back like we did against the Eagles. That was a bad strategy by Tarver. Also Jennings must get at least 25 touches no matter what and to start the game the Raids must come out passing.Try and get the Giants playing catch up/

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Lee_Higgins RaiderRockstar

    O – Charlie doesn’t understand the concept of “value” … good luck teaching him / he’s like 100 years old

  • Raider O

    Charlie,

    We have ignored our skill positions on offense and its time to fix that. 4/5 OL are under 28 and are 2nd and 3rd round picks. It’s time to invest in WRs, TEs, and pass rushers.

  • NewEra S&B

    Defense wins games. Offense decides by how much.

  • RediaR

    Yes, we didn’t initially invest much in them. That is correct.

  • Charlie

    Why is it so hard for a select few to understand that without blocking NO skill player can be effective?
    Why is it so hard for a select few to understand that if a Hall of Famer like NICK FOLES has eight seconds to throw and can hand the ball off for consistent 5 yard gains because of a weak dline an average team will hang 49 on you?

  • Raider O

    I noticed. HE keeps talking about the OL and ignores the fact that 4/5 OL are under 28 and were 2nd/ 3rd round picks.

  • Raider O

    Charlie,

    Let me make it simple for you.
    JV: 3rd round
    26 yo rookie: 3rd
    Wiz: 2nd
    Watson: 2nd

    Streater: undrafted
    Moore: 5th
    Criner: 5th
    Butler: 7th
    Ford: 4th
    Holmes : undrafted
    Rivera: 6th

  • Charlie

    O
    Our drafts from 2003 to 2011 prove that is not the case.
    Our first and second round picks were primarily skill guys and DB’s.
    JR, DHB, DMAC, Washington, Bucahnon etc.
    On the other hand the Chiefs have used 60% of their first and second round picks since 2006 on O and Dlineman and this year will be their third since 2006 of being in the payoffs.
    This is what THE RAIDER model used to be back when we were relevent and we obviously are returning to it under Reggie.
    No offense but have you been a Raider fan longer than 4 years?

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Lee_Higgins RaiderRockstar

    Charlie thinks Philly’s O-Line is the reason they blew us out … bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! so to go along with your OL theory which includes no FA castoffs (like Evan Mathis) and only grunts drafted in the first 3 rounds, the SINGLE reason Eagles thrashed us was because of 1 player: Lane Johnson , rookie

  • SnBG

    They’re blinded by glamore. No one can succeed without the lines being good. If that wasn’t clear against Phili I don’t know what will convince them. Clearly. Tarver decided not to blitz as per usual and we couldn’t get to Foles with a natural pass rush. As we have seen. our Oline is horrid and needs to be a top priority.

  • Raider O

    Charlie,

    Let me make it simple for you.
    JV: 3rd round
    26 yo rookie: 3rd
    Wiz: 2nd
    Watson: 2nd

    Streater: undrafted
    Moore: 5th
    Criner: 5th
    Butler: 7th
    Ford: 4th
    Holmes : undrafted
    Rivera: 6th

    What are you talking about Charlie? Most of the guys you are talking about are not on the team. Keep up man.

  • SnBG

    Everything, IMO, with the draft will rest on how the team feels about Pryor. If he stays then we will be drafting a pass rusher and a Gaurd then maybe a receiver. If he goes all bets are off and it’s time to get that franchise QB. My money in on a new QB.

  • Raider O

    Charlie,

    I know you old dude, but you are talking about picks that are not on the team. I posted the picks invested on our CURRENT roster. Keep up old man.

  • SR Raider

    I call it the Pryor gauge. = % chance we’ll draft a QB in the first round in 2014. Right now it’s squarely at 50% imo

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Lee_Higgins RaiderRockstar

    we already know how Reggie & Dennis feel about TP2. how many times have they tried to give the starting QB job to somebody else, even the QB2 job!! ??

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Having earlier come to a consensus on both the Incognito brouhaha and the Tea Party philosophy, I have every confidence we will soon be in accord on the linemen vs skill position debate. And later we’ll all agree in our assesments of Pryor.

  • SnBG

    The Eagles blew us out because we couldn’t get to Foles with a natural pass rush. Tarver didn’t blitz per usual. Yes Hayden gave up to touchdowns but a good strong rush would have limited the scoring. It would have helped our secondary. Of course our O couldn’t help us because the Eagles where getting to Pryor most of the game.

    Pass rush and a good Oline and we may have won that game.

  • Raider O

    Never!!!!
    Lol

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Lee_Higgins RaiderRockstar

    how do you build an O-Line? ask your pal Charlie. Lane Johnson is the only player who matches his description and he’s a rookie.

  • SnBG

    Then you’ve solved the issue. QB coming next draft. Thsx RR for clearing that up. That means QB and an Olinman to go with him . Still need that pass rusher though.

  • Raider O

    Streater: undrafted
    Moore: 5th round
    Ford: 4th and FA next year
    Butler: 7th
    Criner: 5th
    Holmes: undrafted

    Rivera: 6th
    Mastrud: undrafted
    Kasa: 6th
    Ausberry: 7th

    Reece: undrafted

    DMC: 1st and FA next year
    Jennings: 7th

    But yeas Charlie, let’s invest high picks in an OL that has 5 guys drafted in the top 3 rounds.
    Wake up man!!

  • Jim Jesus

    They have had some epic games the last few seasons. McCarron has been on fire the last month and no int’s

  • SnBG

    Over Raider O’s dead body.

  • Nick Gancayco

    I think there was a lot that goes into it. The hurry up offense can help mask an o line because 1) it tired defense out an 2) it is hard to set up blitzes so teams have to play pretty vanilla. Correct me if i’m wrong but i am oretty sure i’m spot on about those.

    Also, lesean mccoy is easily their best player, we knew they had some playmakers on the outside and foles had some alright games and some horrible games so far in his career but our focus all week was on stopping the run.

    Our sack numbers were inflated by blitzes we are still unable to get pressure on the qb consistenly with a 4 man rush. I agree that our lack if pressure whether it was their oline or our dline or scheme or whatever were the main factors we couldnt get a stop

  • Nick Gancayco

    3rd and 16 u need a stop and u rush 3? Cmon man

  • SnBG

    Tarver messed up on his game plan last weekend. He needs to get back to what we do best. Blitz.

  • RediaR

    Guys getting healthy will be the biggest boost to the O-line. Other than that, bring in a guard and some depth. QB, pass rusher, WR.

  • Nick Gancayco

    I think u go after pass rusher first than wr in the draft. Go young. Get a quality guard in FA

  • Just Fire Baby

    Well said.

  • RediaR

    Div 1 college football is the most poorly run sports league in North America.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Shaw will ONLY coach in the Bay Area so we may have a chance.
    Peter King wrote that last year some NFL team called Shaw, and he said if you can convince my wife to leave Palo Alto I will listen, and handed her the phone.
    The team didn’t. He wants his kids to go to Stanford as well and come home for the weekends.

  • Charlie

    O/RR
    Facts;
    Our best lineman are Houston, Veld, Watson, Wiz.
    All taken in rounds 1-3.
    Hunter, Brisiel, Barnes, Pashos, Gurode are all on the wrong side of 30 and have had serious injury issues the last two years.
    Football is won on the line of scrimmage. No skill player will be succesfull without blocking. (See TP running for his life).
    No DB can cover for 5 seconds. See Hall of Famer Nick Foles last week.
    As near as I can tell we still have not beat a playoff team this year. We will continue to fail against good competition till we can compete with those teams on the line of scrimmage.
    Chiefs draft Poe, we counter with Nix. Not a winning formula for us.
    Ravens draft a Ngata. We counter with Gurode. Not a winning formula for us.
    Patriots draft Solder. we counter with Walker. Not a winning formula for us.
    Till the lines become at least respectable we will not be in the playoffs.
    See where I am going with this????

  • R8erEduc8er

    Lol good one.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Lee_Higgins RaiderRockstar

    See where I am going with this????
    ***
    yeah to the grave in about 2 months

  • Raider O

    Read my prev post, if you can find it. I’m done debating this topic. I guess ignoring the facts is your specialty.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Like how you INSIST on putting “all taken in rounds 1-3″.
    Actually, none of them were taken in round 1. We will be drafting a skill/perimeter guy in round 1 this year, just like I told you we would last year and did.

  • Raider O

    LMAO

  • SnBG

    Walterfootball has us drafting 10th and picking Watkins with Lee, Manziel and Boyd still on the board. Hum.