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Allen says Pryor’s knee injury wasn’t difference in Raiders-Giants game

By Steve Corkran
Monday, November 11th, 2013 at 1:49 pm in Oakland Raiders.

ALAMEDA – Raiders coach Dennis Allen said Monday that quarterback Terrelle Pryor’s right knee injury was more severe than he realized. Even so, that wasn’t the determining factor in the Raiders loss to the New York Giants.
“When you watch the game, I didn’t look at it and think that that was really the limitation that held us back there,” Allen said Monday in his weekly day-after-game news conference.
Just the same, Allen added, he intends to meet with Pryor so that he can get a full grasp of where Pryor stands in terms of health.
Pryor completed 11 of 26 passes for 122 yards, with one interception, in a 24-20 loss Sunday. He also ran only five times for 19 yards and fumbled once.
Afterward, Pryor said that he played with a sprained medial collateral ligament that he suffered against the Philadelphia Eagles on Nov. 3. The knee worsened as the week progressed.
“It was obvious that there wasn’t that explosiveness that we had seen out of him prior to the injury,” Allen said. “I’ll sit down and visit with Terrelle a little bit more and find out exactly where he is physically.
“It wasn’t something that we thought was going to be a big factor going into the game. But, obviously, it was a factor.”
Allen said he admires Pryor for wanting to play at less than 100 percent, as he does with all his players.
At the same time, he added, there’s a fine line between playing through pain and knowing when to ask out.
“You got to be effective,” Allen said. “If you’re injured and can’t help the football team, then it’s best that we have somebody else in there.”
Allen said he didn’t consider removing Pryor from the game Sunday, either because of Pryor’s limited effectiveness or inconsistent play. Pryor remains the unquestioned starter as long as he’s healthy enough.
Undrafted free agent Matt McGloin is the only other quarterback on Oakland’s 53-man roster. Fourth-round draft pick Tyler Wilson is on the practice squad.

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  • http://Raiders.com/ Dan78

    I think Ford gave up on this team once Soup Campbell was hurt and we brought in Palmer…. Guy hasn’t done squat…. His plane ticket has been punched as well as #20….

  • Orthodoxdj

    It definitely wasn’t his knee. It was his arm and his
    inability to read a defense, and his lack of ability to go through his progressions. I love the guy, but this is the NFL. Pryor is not the answer.

  • Blackholepriest

    Niner fans mad at Kappy

    Raiders fans pissed At TP.

    Both are struggling because of inexperience and lack of weapons……….period

  • DJ Johnny

    Oh b.s. Peyton was the number one pick in the draft and they invested a ton in him. Of course they wouldn’t give up on him quickly. He also exhibited superior passing ability during his college career.
    What was the word on Pryor coming out ? Right. I thought so.
    You think there’s a difference between the # 1 pick in the draft and a 3rd rounder?
    I don’t know. Maybe you don’t.

  • SnBG

    Charlie, I agree about the line but Pryor just doesn’t have it. He isn’t accurate and makes poor decisions.

  • http://Raiders.com/ Dan78

    Olsen is no offensive genius…. Has he had any success in the past… His meal ticket was coaching Brees in college…. Bring in the Mad Man Mike Martz…. He would be an improvement…

  • lefty12

    Suppose as has been mentioned DA has to play him by orders from above?BTW,I hope that isn’t true because if it is we are screwed even worse than we could imagine.

  • DJ Johnny

    And by “Again’ I mean AGAIN.
    Maybe u missed the Indy game too.

  • SnBG

    Well, next years draft gives us an opportunity to draft a real QB and Pryor can’t compete with that.

  • SaintKaufman

    Well, if you’re looking to finish off Pryor Martz is your guy!

  • Blackholepriest

    It’s laughable reading both fan bases. Everybody wants their guy to be great instantly, the NFL doesn’t work that way. It takes time……….period

  • Michael

    And no need to draft one early. I’d like to see how Jennings can hold up the rest of the year or if he gets worn down (like mike bush did). If he can keep excelling, let’s ride with him, that injured rookie, and Reece next year

  • Howard Benner

    Okay, time to examine the playing field.

    Despite popular opinion the two positions that can’t be immediately improved in the 2014 NFL college entry draft are WR & OG.

    Traditionally WR is not a position that realizes immediate returns on high first round draft picks. If the draft were held today the Raiders wouldn’t even be in the top 10. That is good news. But that would knock the Raiders out of contention for the most impressive college WR talent, Sammy Watkins of Clemson. The #2 talent, Maruise Lee of USC is so woefully consistent the pressure might prove too overwhelming for him to conquer.

    OG is not a position of talent in the upcoming draft. The top prospect as of today wouldn’t reveal himself until the third round. The other most touted need for the Raiders, a speed rusher doesn’t even exist. Jadevon Clowney of South Carolina is either the first or second rated player on the “big board.”

    OG & WR will be more relevantly addressed through free agency. If the Raiders can somehow retain the core of their “one year wonders” on defense & add an OG & WR in free agency then the draft can gravitate to “the best player available,” the only way the Raiders can add talent & depth to a squad that has been depleted by injury on offense. Remember, the Raiders are continuing to pay for bad draft decisions such as McFadein, Jemarcus Russell, Michael Huff, DHB, et al. . .Four players that should have been chosen that I politicked for @ the time; Ryan Clady, Matt Forte, Alex Mack & Haloti Ngata. . .year after year I, as a fan sit in my seat & upon seeing the Raiders draft pick on the screen, “WTF?!”

    So the Raiders have to capture lightening in a bottle in order to overcome all the bad draft picks & FA moves. . .

    I like TP. He has become injured, the product of mounting injuries around him & the failure to develop him as an QB from an early age. He is admittedly a work in progress. But I love his upside. he isn’t looking for the easy way out & affixes the target for failure on his chest in the aftermath of mounting failures. He is not only the future QB but the leader of this team. Failures today will be sucesses tomorrow. The Raiders’ braintrust has to keep the core of this team together going forward so the progress of the on the field product can realize success in the standings. . .

  • 2romes

    The Ravens built great teams what with I consider very average QB ‘s. Is Pryor the QB that many team crave for? Not even close. But if a team build to competitiveness you pretty much know what kind of QB would put you over the top. For example, Flacco or Rogers type.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Ritchie: “Because of the way teams line up to stop him from running, he should be able to beat anyone outside with passes but he can’t.”
    Says he “has regressed” and looks “as if he’s read his earlier press clippings” praising him and needs to get back to showing he can do things rather than talking about doing things. (Lots of undercurrent in what Ritchie said–implying rather strongly that Pryor’s ego has gotten big, implies his ego has been big before. Keeps saying that TP “says the right things.”
    Says Pryor, “says the right things” and “he’s able to fool everyone, myself included and maybe the coaches in practice, with scripted practices so that he can look good in practice if it’s scripted out and he studies that but when he gets into games and it gets faster and less predictable, he might start guessing.”
    Papa retorts with “he doesn’t do well in practice either.” Wow.
    Papa and Richie surprised about TP saying what he did about his knee in the interview yesterday.

  • SnBG

    He had Bulger, Jackson and Freemam humming. Olsen was the victim of a lousy head coach in St. Louis and then in TB.

  • http://Raiders.com/ Dan78

    Don’t think Pryor would fit his system… The TP2 ship has sailed just like his passes….

  • JOn Wooah

    Guys listen. Tp2 is our Qb aka our fearless leader going foward this year unless something changes. I dont mind if we draft a qb next year, but if u think he is gonna come in and light it up behind this OLINE and Crappy WR, u are mistaken.

    Tp2 is our qb. Listen to Captain DENNIS ALLEN.. He is our qb. So you fans can get mad, CALL THE RADIO SHOWS, Scream, make up stories, pound the blogs.. its not gonna CHANGE A THING PERIOD. Nothing u say matters. PERIOD. Me and Da are on the same page though, so in the words of the LEGENDARY . MR AL DAVIS u need to get OVAH IT.

  • JOn Wooah

    me and thnk alot boss. I need ur email address most of these fans are clueless, lets talk real ball. Me u and DA are on the same page with ROMO, ROd woodson , LO NEAL.

    They all say its the OLINE and Rout running

  • SnBG

    If you thought Knapp was inflexible wait until you see Martz. Look how Cutler is now playing under Treseman and what he did under Martz.

  • SaintKaufman

    LOL!!

  • http://Raiders.com/ Dan78

    Thanks for clarifying…. But he is not the answer….

  • Michael

    Can we also get yet another new offensive coordinator? I’m all for consistency but come on. I’m tired of hearing Olsen and them say they want to get Reece more involved but they don’t know how. Like wtf?! Hand him the ball! Motion him out wide! Do something! Its not like he is getting double coverage!!!

  • SaintKaufman

    I’m telling ya, you should be on the North Korean comedy circuit!! Too good.

  • SnBG

    I for one am not mad at all. I thought Pryor should get his chance and he is getting it.. His play has lost me and I think it’s time to take advantage of this next draft and take a QB.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Remember Michael Jordan thinking he could be a MLB player? Couldn’t even make it in the minors. Something to think about. Can a great athlete learn a complex skill set to which he is just now being introduced, and learn it against those who are paid millions, the best in the business, to keep him from succeeding?
    Or, are the fundamentals of the position that which can only be learned at a lower level against lower level competition. after years of practice.

  • http://Raiders.com/ Dan78

    Exactly!!! Use what you have…. Don’t try to make chicken salad out of you know what…..

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Depends on our draft position and I don’t see any qb, like Luck, who’s a “sure thing.” Do you?

  • seymour bush

    Uh, something did change. The clock struck midnight and the ball is over. Dude cannot play the position no matter how hard some of you wish.

  • 2romes

    Can any explain Matt Ryan case, you know one of the predicted winner of the NFC

  • SnBG

    TP can’t get him the ball. Oline is, well you know.

  • Michael

    One thing that was strange is the way they changed the run game yesterday. With DMC its always the read option but yesterday a lot of single back and I formations. Wonder why they don’t do that with dmc

  • Que

    I tell ya what. Im just as excited as the beginning of camp. We are finding out the truth and Reggie and Dennis are too. Now we know what we have to do next offseason

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Jennings talking about that right now, that the formation helped out the offense. SAid he knew nothing of TP’s knee.

  • Dakota

    Laaaaaaakers…..suuuuck. Tank for the lottery!
    One down year then right back in the mix!

  • SaintKaufman

    McFadden killing the backs of the olineman

  • seymour bush

    This is true. Pryor cannot get him the ball, and Jennings was running fine. The problem was not the play calls or most of the players. The problem was Pryor completed 40% of his passes for 80 yards to our guys, and 65 yards to their guys.

  • Que

    Im so happy and I hope dmc doesnt come back.

  • SaintKaufman

    :(

  • Michael

    Lol true. Maybe that’s why our line sucks haha

  • SnBG

    Maybe because DMC can’t really run anymore so they try trickery and his experience in the Wildcat to get him going. Jennings is more of a real power back that can use his bigger body to slam the D.

  • http://Raiders.com/ Dan78

    I thought they traded the first round pick this year and next…..

  • JOn Wooah

    Instead of thinking new qb.. HOw can we uprgrade this OLINE?? how could we uprgrade these playmakers. We had a chance with Tavon Austin, reggie blew it, just like he blew it with the pocket passers Mat Flyn, and tyler small hands Wilson. He had his change.

    We need a Vet WR, and Sammy Watkins JR, or LEWMAN the LT.. we need a quick pace change of directin RUNNING BACK like Mcccoy. Tre Mason out of Auburn would be my 1st choice.

    WE need to get a better OC for Tp2 and coaching staff. PERIOD. Tarver can stay.. he has HC material written all over him.

  • JOn Wooah

    Bring back BOB WYLIE and Wiz SR.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Rashad is a keeper. Let’s hope RM resigns him.

  • SnBG

    Using Jennings the way they did yesterday shows the flexibility of Olsen when he has players to work with.

  • Blackholepriest

    This easy to say right now, you’re like everyone else. We lost I gonna blame the easiest target available. Brain dead assessments. But you are not alone……..period

  • seymour bush

    I can. They have had MASS INJURIES on both sides of the ball. Steven Jackson has been out, Julio Jones is gone for the season, Witherspoon and Biermann two of their best defensive players. They have been hit particularly hard this year.

  • SnBG

    TP2 is done, We need a new QB.

  • JOn Wooah

    Remember when bad OLINE ruined the greatness that was ANDREW WALTER.. ya put a pocket passer behind this oline. 2006 era esq all over again.

    See Matt Flynn.