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Allen doesn’t see any quit in his players

ALAMEDA – Raiders coach Dennis Allen said Friday that he intends to stick with Matt McGloin as his starting quarterback for now. However, Allen also wants to get another look at Terrelle Pryor before this season ends.
It’s all part of Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie gathering as much information as possible on their quarterback situation before they head into the offseason.
“I don’t think he’s done anything to play himself out of that position,” Allen said of McGloin, who started the past three games in place of Pryor.
At the same time, Allen stopped short of anointing McGloin the unquestioned starter the final four games.
Most important, the Raiders need to have a firm grasp on what they have in McGloin and Pryor. To that end, Allen said he wants to see more of Pryor this season, too.
“We need to have a good evaluation of what we have at the quarterback position as we move forward,” Allen said. “These last four weeks will be instrumental in us being able to do that.”
Next year’s NFL draft is regarded as a quarterback-rich one. The Raiders can’t afford to overlook that position if they aren’t sold on either McGloin or Pryor as the long-term answer at a position that has been unsettled since Rich Gannon retired.
Pryor backed up McGloin the past two games – he sat out a third game with a right MCL sprain — and he is the only other quarterback on the roster now that the Raiders waived rookie Tyler Wilson, a fourth-round draft pick in April.
The Raiders hitched their fortunes to Matt Flynn as soon as they traded incumbent Carson Palmer to the Arizona Cardinals and acquired Flynn via trade with the Seattle Seahawks.
By the end of training camp, it became apparent that Pryor was the better option as the starter for the regular-season opener.
Pryor played well enough in his first four starts to validate Allen’s decision. In the midst of that four-game stretch, the Raiders waived Flynn on the heels of a disastrous start in place of an injured Pryor.
Then came a lackluster four-game stretch in which Pryor had eight passes intercepted, completed 50.8 percent of his passes and recorded one touchdown pass, some of that while Pryor played with a hurt knee.
McGloin sparkled in relief of Pryor against the Houston Texans, and then played well enough against the Titans and Cowboys for Allen to stick with him for the foreseeable future.
Yet, there’s also the matter of next season and beyond, especially since the Raiders are 4-8 and close to being mathematically eliminated from playoff contention.

– Allen said he’s more concerned than usual about the players that suffered injuries against the Cowboys because there’s only a month left in the season.
Right guard Mike Brisiel (knee), running backs Rashad Jennings (concussion) and Jeremy Stewart (ankle/knee), linebacker Kaluka Maiava (calf), safety Usama Young (neck) and cornerback Mike Jenkins (stinger) got hurt against the Cowboys.
Darren McFadden is healthy enough to handle a full workload if Jennings isn’t cleared to play against the New York Jets on Dec. 8, Allen said. McFadden returned Thursday from a hamstring injury that sidelined him for most of four games.

– The Raiders are assured a non-winning season for the 11th straight season. They finished 8-8 twice during that span.
Some of those teams came under fire for players tuning out the coach or throttling down once things went south. Allen is confident that his players won’t go down that road.
“When you watch us play and you watch us work every day, there is absolutely nothing that would give me any indication that there is anybody in that locker room that has any give up in them,” Allen said.
Long-time observers routinely mention how hard the Raiders play under Allen and his staff. At some point, Allen said, the hard work will manifest itself in more victories.
“I like the guys that are in that locker room,” Allen said. “I understand where we’re at from a record standpoint, but these guys have gone out there and given us everything that they’ve had every single week. I continue to expect to see that for the last four weeks of the season.”

– Khalif Barnes’ first NFL start at guard didn’t go quite as well as planned, Allen said. However, he got better as the game progressed and is considered an option at the position moving forward.

– Left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer played every snap Thursday in his first game action since last season.
“He held up good,” Allen said. “I saw him (Friday) morning, and he said he was feeling pretty good, so he got out of that clean.”
Allen planned on spelling Veldheer with Matt McCants from time to time, but Veldheer’s surgically repaired triceps didn’t present any issues.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch (ankle) worked out with team trainers Friday. Allen said he is hopeful that Branch will return to game action soon. Branch missed the past 10 games.

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  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    I can’t judge weight well, but McG is build more squarely and doesn’t have long legs as does Johnny F.
    What weight IS on Manziel and what chest and rib cage he *appears* to have is all flak jacket.
    Both could stand to put on muscle, it seems.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    You ratfaced Jamarcussing Kiffin McClain! Hey, it almost feels better than real cuss words..

  • R8erEduc8er

    I thought they only get a 2nd rounder from Washington in next year’s draft.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Hell, I know that. That’s my point, they are now winning but their fan base has been pissed off because they aren’t going to win their own division. They’ve had offensive injuries that have affected Kaps’ success. They’ve been inconsistent on offense and even yesterday they looked on and off with their passing game and their running game was not its old self.
    Yet, Niner fans are MAD at Harbaugh and some idiots have even called for pulling Kappy.
    The Niners are the team that looks defensively prepared to go through the playoffs , esp. since they are getting back their offensive guys (well, they lost Staley yesterday it appears.)
    I think too many Raider fans who are tired of losing forget that most of those losing years were with Al at the helm and they see these last two years as an extension of that, blaming Rm and DA for losing, when they are the ones working on repairing the damage.
    I am not giving them carte blanche. I said, three years.

  • R8erEduc8er

    I trust him. Getting a talent like McGloin as an undrafted free agent is more telling of RM’s ability to get a QB than trading for Flynn imo. RM’s only knowledge of Flynn came from watching him practice in GB and watching him break a GB record. Same reason Seattle trading for Flynn. Same reason GB picked Flynn up for a 2nd time. He swung and miss…it happens.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Yep. I wanna see more defensive pickups like the ones he picked up this past offseason. I’m impressed actually. Hope he strikes gold on the offensive side of the ball this time around.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Thank You

  • R8erEduc8er

    Next year is playoffs or bust.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    Deer in the headlights….or DA in the 2nd half.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    “This team makes me nervous going forward.” “Nobody will sign Tyler Wilson to be their 3rd string?” John Middlekauf.

    Fire Reggie now.

    http://media.957thegame.com/a/84559293/john-middlekauff-says-the-best-way-to-fix-a-team-is-through-the-draft.htm

  • SnBG

    Allen isn’t going to be fired this year, there is to much progress with the team to do that.

  • Rifflicks

    What a coincidence….all of the Fire Allen and Reggie clowns are Pryor groupies .

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    The penalties stopped when Al died. Hue was 3 times the coach these jokers are

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    As are those that follow ‘John Middlekauf’ twitter. Pryor’s agent’s BFF.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Does RM have to hit on everything for you to like him? He has way more hits than misses imo….just look at the defense. He’s barely touched the offense. Knapp was his only fail imo. Draft class is too early to grade. So if we fire RM and Hayden, Watson, and/or Moore become good players, then what? “Oh man, we should have kept RM. This new GM Joe Schmo is crap.” It’ll be the same thing every year with your types because you only grade coaches and GMs off of instant success. The arrow is pointing up for the Raiders imo.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Not really, I supported the move to McLovin. I want to win unlike the Reggime apologists. Former scout says our guys suck but hey if you think cap space is wonderful, have at it.

  • http://www.cosmicdanceband.com/ SilverandBlack666

    If we draft Johnny Manziel how much does he pay TP2 for his jersey number?

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Yeah right, Middlekauff said to go with McLovin. He may not be a genius but I’ll listen to him before I do Matt Millen’s assessment.

  • http://www.cosmicdanceband.com/ SilverandBlack666

    Cap Space is wonderful if you are an owner and looking to make a profit.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Did RM or DA hire Knapp?

  • Rifflicks

    BS…supported ??? or reluctantly was forced to accept the demotion of Pryor???. that and you’re one of the main cry babies about pryor not in the wildcat plays lately

  • Al_is_theraiders

    yup….progress.
    8-8
    8-8
    4-12
    4-12

  • Rifflicks

    only if there’s alot of it after the finalization of the 53 man roster in September

  • Rifflicks

    the real profit is in the owwners sharing of the 3 billion dollar TV contract the NFL negotiates

  • Rifflicks

    And pryor only needs another 3 – 6 years to learn the position

  • Al_is_theraiders

    what a suprise all the da lovers are shrek apologists…

  • R8erEduc8er

    Do you not see the positives on this team? Do you not see the competitiveness? Aside from the Eagles game, do you not see how close we have been? I don’t underestimate what RM and DA had to deal with coming into this. They were waaaay behind in $$, picks, talent, culture, logistics, stadium issues, computers, etc.

  • The_Judge37

    No one really seems to be upset about consecutive losses to the Titans and Cowboys. It’s seems like most people are happy enough to just have been in the games “comptetativly”.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    LOL! BS dude! I haven’t complained about Pryor in the wildcat. I admitted Pryor regressed. I said before the Houston game I hope McLovin plays well even though I admire Pryor…We’re not all like the open-minded free-thinking Reggime apologists that ignore the Knapp, Flynn, Hayden, Brisel, Wilson, Bergstrom decisions

  • Al_is_theraiders

    wins and losses…idc who qbs.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Exactly. They made the team so crappy in 2012, that anything would be an improvement over 2013.

  • Rifflicks

    that’s because in a REBUILDING year it is a totally realistic expectation

  • Rifflicks

    save it…you don’t think people remember what you post

  • Rifflicks

    then why are you a PriorQB groupie

  • AutumnThunderstorm

    Nope, this year’s first closes the books on the RGIII trade.

  • Rifflicks

    a “Conspiracy” has been exposed by a mastermind

  • The_Judge37

    Well I understand for a born loser like you, this is no big deal. I was actually wondering about everyone else here.

  • Rifflicks

    looking for more imeciles that agree with you?

  • R8erEduc8er

    I understand there’s no moral victories. But it’s better than getting ran around, through, and over like we were in the past. You build on the positives and I’ve seen many this year. You don’t tear it down and start all over unless you think we’ve reached our peak. With a full draft, huge cap space…we haven’t even scratched the surface yet. Build the team up. We were far from where we needed to be when RM and DA took over…we’re not as far now. That’s progress. And despite what some say, I think we’re very close to having a foundation for long-term success in place.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Wow lol

  • Rifflicks

    oh oh…a positive answer with a ton of common sense won’t go over very well with this crowd

  • Davy Jones

    So, if we are to give Reggie the benefit of the doubt, (and I think he deserves it- not so happy with the drafting so far, but I think he’s done well in FA ) Next year- rebuild year 3, and all that cap space- where is the bar set? A winning season? .500? “Progress”?

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    That’s fantastic but what are they “Building the team up” with? I’m open to hearing someone rebutt Middlekauf’s points. Hayden? “I don’t think he’s good” Watson. “Can’t stay on the field” Moore? “Very nice pick there” Wilson? “Nobody will even consider adding that guy to their team with all these bad QB’s in the league? What’s that tell you?” Butler? “He’s back down to where he was”….luckily he didn’t even touch the 2012 draft.

  • The_Judge37

    I guess it just depends on how many new players he brings in, because apparently we can’t reasonably expect a new group of guys to play well and win.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Playoffs or bust. Even RM and DA will tell you that.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    His 2 biggest moves in FA/Trade were Flynn & Brisel. That’s hilarious. He found some nice players on defense. My guess is, is that double digit losing continues

  • Rifflicks

    is this really year 2????
    He didn’t purge the roster and restore balance to the salary cap until this year…one could arguably say that McKenzie not getting hired last year until Jan.5th and Allen getting hired on Jan. 24th didn’t give them enough time to assemble coaching staffs and and hire administrative personnel before off season activities began.

  • Rifflicks

    you’re not interested in what others think your mind is made up….don’t pretend otherwise

  • The_Judge37

    LMFAO, I remember you now from before. LOL, The Reggie didn’t have enough time guy. I’m trying to remember your old name

  • Al_is_theraiders

    1….2…..kindergarten class.