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Allen doesn’t see any quit in his players

ALAMEDA – Raiders coach Dennis Allen said Friday that he intends to stick with Matt McGloin as his starting quarterback for now. However, Allen also wants to get another look at Terrelle Pryor before this season ends.
It’s all part of Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie gathering as much information as possible on their quarterback situation before they head into the offseason.
“I don’t think he’s done anything to play himself out of that position,” Allen said of McGloin, who started the past three games in place of Pryor.
At the same time, Allen stopped short of anointing McGloin the unquestioned starter the final four games.
Most important, the Raiders need to have a firm grasp on what they have in McGloin and Pryor. To that end, Allen said he wants to see more of Pryor this season, too.
“We need to have a good evaluation of what we have at the quarterback position as we move forward,” Allen said. “These last four weeks will be instrumental in us being able to do that.”
Next year’s NFL draft is regarded as a quarterback-rich one. The Raiders can’t afford to overlook that position if they aren’t sold on either McGloin or Pryor as the long-term answer at a position that has been unsettled since Rich Gannon retired.
Pryor backed up McGloin the past two games – he sat out a third game with a right MCL sprain — and he is the only other quarterback on the roster now that the Raiders waived rookie Tyler Wilson, a fourth-round draft pick in April.
The Raiders hitched their fortunes to Matt Flynn as soon as they traded incumbent Carson Palmer to the Arizona Cardinals and acquired Flynn via trade with the Seattle Seahawks.
By the end of training camp, it became apparent that Pryor was the better option as the starter for the regular-season opener.
Pryor played well enough in his first four starts to validate Allen’s decision. In the midst of that four-game stretch, the Raiders waived Flynn on the heels of a disastrous start in place of an injured Pryor.
Then came a lackluster four-game stretch in which Pryor had eight passes intercepted, completed 50.8 percent of his passes and recorded one touchdown pass, some of that while Pryor played with a hurt knee.
McGloin sparkled in relief of Pryor against the Houston Texans, and then played well enough against the Titans and Cowboys for Allen to stick with him for the foreseeable future.
Yet, there’s also the matter of next season and beyond, especially since the Raiders are 4-8 and close to being mathematically eliminated from playoff contention.

– Allen said he’s more concerned than usual about the players that suffered injuries against the Cowboys because there’s only a month left in the season.
Right guard Mike Brisiel (knee), running backs Rashad Jennings (concussion) and Jeremy Stewart (ankle/knee), linebacker Kaluka Maiava (calf), safety Usama Young (neck) and cornerback Mike Jenkins (stinger) got hurt against the Cowboys.
Darren McFadden is healthy enough to handle a full workload if Jennings isn’t cleared to play against the New York Jets on Dec. 8, Allen said. McFadden returned Thursday from a hamstring injury that sidelined him for most of four games.

– The Raiders are assured a non-winning season for the 11th straight season. They finished 8-8 twice during that span.
Some of those teams came under fire for players tuning out the coach or throttling down once things went south. Allen is confident that his players won’t go down that road.
“When you watch us play and you watch us work every day, there is absolutely nothing that would give me any indication that there is anybody in that locker room that has any give up in them,” Allen said.
Long-time observers routinely mention how hard the Raiders play under Allen and his staff. At some point, Allen said, the hard work will manifest itself in more victories.
“I like the guys that are in that locker room,” Allen said. “I understand where we’re at from a record standpoint, but these guys have gone out there and given us everything that they’ve had every single week. I continue to expect to see that for the last four weeks of the season.”

– Khalif Barnes’ first NFL start at guard didn’t go quite as well as planned, Allen said. However, he got better as the game progressed and is considered an option at the position moving forward.

– Left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer played every snap Thursday in his first game action since last season.
“He held up good,” Allen said. “I saw him (Friday) morning, and he said he was feeling pretty good, so he got out of that clean.”
Allen planned on spelling Veldheer with Matt McCants from time to time, but Veldheer’s surgically repaired triceps didn’t present any issues.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch (ankle) worked out with team trainers Friday. Allen said he is hopeful that Branch will return to game action soon. Branch missed the past 10 games.

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  • Rifflicks

    nothing WRs or TEs can’t wear #2

  • R8erEduc8er

    Hayden – I think he’s good.
    Watson – To be determined.
    Moore – he’s good and can become great.
    Wilson – He’s a qb so he was worth a shot. McGloin cancels him out but you don’t give RM credit for that.
    Rivera – nice find but RM gets no love.
    Butler – a 6th rounder. What were you expecting?
    McGee – a 7th rounder that produces but RM gets no love.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    LOL! Pot meet kettle!

  • Rifflicks

    Rifflicks

  • Rifflicks

    I haven’t pretended to ask questions like you

  • Al_is_theraiders

    pryor is explosive….mcgunn not so much.

  • The_Judge37

    Ok, Dennis Allen’s Visor, what ever you say.

  • R8erEduc8er

    What other 3rd to 7th round QB is making noise this year?

  • Rifflicks

    explosive loser

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    McLovin was no Reggie find. I admit that Rivera & McGee are nice players. Watson is undetermined. I get that…Hayden was beaten constantly this year. Plus, his medical issues(don’t care what the doctors say, they’re still red flags) should’ve never been considered at #3….The biggest finds in the draft have been late round picks & UDFA. Sound like another GM that was slowly dying?

  • Rifflicks

    I have always had this user name….ask Jerry or Steve….first registered in 2007

  • R8erEduc8er

    I don’t get why he doesn’t get credit for McGloin. Isn’t he in charge of player personnel?

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    This is a big boy job that I’m sure pays lots of money. 99% of GM’s & their coaches don’t come in to take over a Super Bowl winner…Not enough time…funny. Grimmace WANTED Knapp. That’s a fact.

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    From what I was told. Denise gave him a shot.

  • The_Judge37

    LOL

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Most plays with him as QB do get blown up.

  • Rifflicks

    Watson was picked as a project….go back and read McKenzie’s interview after the draft…..I will paraphrase what he said….Watson is a project with a lot of upside because of his size, athleticism, and that he hasn’t played long enough to develop any bad habits….he also said he didn’t expect Watson to play until later into the season if at all

  • 1960AutumnWind

    At least 0.500. Frankly DA can not lose out and hope to keep his job. He needs to at least beat NY and maybe one other.

  • DKnight007

    Has to be 500…if not at least 7-9. I think McK needs at least 4-5 years worth of drafting. Next year should without a doubt be make or break for DA if this year isn’t it. If DA loses this last games badly….Oh…Oh…

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    I have MUP lists and Draft pick lists saved. You on one of those?

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Frankly if that’s the case, I’d fire Grimmace before Denise. Who’s more to blame?

  • R8erEduc8er

    It’s the GM that scouts the players and then lobbies and bring the undrafted free agents in for a workout.

  • Rifflicks

    tell us about all of your high level managerial experience that you base your opinions on.

  • DKnight007

    Shut your pie hole go cry for b-friend DA someplace else…

  • lefty12

    in case you haven’t heard the good news-Geno is starting Sunday.If it has already been mentioned-carry on.

  • Rifflicks

    no I never wasted my time…I aways chided you that did as being Jr GM’s

  • 1960AutumnWind

    I see your point. RM did purge the roster this year. However, you want to see the team still playing hard for DA and staff till the end. NY should be a mess next week and Raiders should have the advantage.

  • Rifflicks

    Brilliant!!!

  • R8erEduc8er

    That’s exactly what happened. Wasn’t too much on the market other than Knapp. Still would have preferred Joe Schmo over Knapp though.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Saw that in Twitter feeds Gerard even said status quo so he will not even be active???

  • The_Civilian_James_Trapp

    Not much, but do watch NFL games & do this other weird thing called reading.

  • the authoritative dr robert

    @VicTafur: From @SI_PeterKing — “Not saying the #Jets have a problem at QB but Geno Smith’s last TD pass was 3 days before start of the World Series”

  • Rifflicks

    Marvel Comics?

  • RediaR

    They aren’t red flags. They are orange flags that say an already tough rookie season, due to a tough position, might be a little tougher. That is because of time away from football not because of an injury that people with credibility to comment on the subject (not you) say wont have a long term impact on ability to play football.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    That would be about 270 of us. Must be lonely on Mt. Olympus. And there was no registration in 2007.

  • Rifflicks

    McGoin was signed as a camp arm …not to compete for the roster

  • The_Judge37

    Hope this isn’t as good news as Nick Foles and Ryan Fitzpatrick starting.

  • Rifflicks

    yes there was….user name and password

  • RediaR

    Explosive is great at WR, unnecessary at QB.

    Pryor doesn’t have any of those pesky QB skills, but he is explosive and exciting.

  • DKnight007

    Exactly. He can’t expect to lose out and still remain as head coach can he?

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Yeah! And Brady was picked in the 7th round to win Superbowls.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    I was just saying that to a Dallas Fan at work. We started talking about some of the plays like the return was by a UDFA just brought up or the fair catch or the fumble and the best WR that night was a castaway from Dallas etc…. It is amazing to me we are competitive with this roster.

  • DKnight007

    Yeah. DA should have never been hired in the 1st place IMO.

  • R8erEduc8er

    D*mn, that was a while ago. He better not go all “Foles” on us.

  • RediaR

    They are still picking up our WR scraps. I think we’re fine.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    No that would be a bad sign. I do not expect him to lose the next 4 in a row but I do not expect him to win all of them considering two of the games are against top tier playoff teams and 3 are against teams trying to get into playoffs.

  • DKnight007

    Well on positive note..the Raiders will finally be out of cap hell. Don’t expect Mck to sign over expensive free agents though. Brisiel and his fat contract need to go.

  • Davy Jones

    That doesn’t make it year 1. Year 1.5? I don’t know, I think this is a three year process. I think you make a good argument . . . for why .500 would be acceptable. But a third losing season in a row?

  • RaidingTexas

    That’s my point. It was lopsided NOT in our favor. No way Palmer was worth a 1st and 2nd rounders. It was a bad trade from the very beginning. Several of us knew that when it went down.

  • RediaR

    Nick Foles starting was never the good news. Barkley starting would have been.