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Allen doesn’t see any quit in his players

ALAMEDA – Raiders coach Dennis Allen said Friday that he intends to stick with Matt McGloin as his starting quarterback for now. However, Allen also wants to get another look at Terrelle Pryor before this season ends.
It’s all part of Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie gathering as much information as possible on their quarterback situation before they head into the offseason.
“I don’t think he’s done anything to play himself out of that position,” Allen said of McGloin, who started the past three games in place of Pryor.
At the same time, Allen stopped short of anointing McGloin the unquestioned starter the final four games.
Most important, the Raiders need to have a firm grasp on what they have in McGloin and Pryor. To that end, Allen said he wants to see more of Pryor this season, too.
“We need to have a good evaluation of what we have at the quarterback position as we move forward,” Allen said. “These last four weeks will be instrumental in us being able to do that.”
Next year’s NFL draft is regarded as a quarterback-rich one. The Raiders can’t afford to overlook that position if they aren’t sold on either McGloin or Pryor as the long-term answer at a position that has been unsettled since Rich Gannon retired.
Pryor backed up McGloin the past two games – he sat out a third game with a right MCL sprain — and he is the only other quarterback on the roster now that the Raiders waived rookie Tyler Wilson, a fourth-round draft pick in April.
The Raiders hitched their fortunes to Matt Flynn as soon as they traded incumbent Carson Palmer to the Arizona Cardinals and acquired Flynn via trade with the Seattle Seahawks.
By the end of training camp, it became apparent that Pryor was the better option as the starter for the regular-season opener.
Pryor played well enough in his first four starts to validate Allen’s decision. In the midst of that four-game stretch, the Raiders waived Flynn on the heels of a disastrous start in place of an injured Pryor.
Then came a lackluster four-game stretch in which Pryor had eight passes intercepted, completed 50.8 percent of his passes and recorded one touchdown pass, some of that while Pryor played with a hurt knee.
McGloin sparkled in relief of Pryor against the Houston Texans, and then played well enough against the Titans and Cowboys for Allen to stick with him for the foreseeable future.
Yet, there’s also the matter of next season and beyond, especially since the Raiders are 4-8 and close to being mathematically eliminated from playoff contention.

– Allen said he’s more concerned than usual about the players that suffered injuries against the Cowboys because there’s only a month left in the season.
Right guard Mike Brisiel (knee), running backs Rashad Jennings (concussion) and Jeremy Stewart (ankle/knee), linebacker Kaluka Maiava (calf), safety Usama Young (neck) and cornerback Mike Jenkins (stinger) got hurt against the Cowboys.
Darren McFadden is healthy enough to handle a full workload if Jennings isn’t cleared to play against the New York Jets on Dec. 8, Allen said. McFadden returned Thursday from a hamstring injury that sidelined him for most of four games.

– The Raiders are assured a non-winning season for the 11th straight season. They finished 8-8 twice during that span.
Some of those teams came under fire for players tuning out the coach or throttling down once things went south. Allen is confident that his players won’t go down that road.
“When you watch us play and you watch us work every day, there is absolutely nothing that would give me any indication that there is anybody in that locker room that has any give up in them,” Allen said.
Long-time observers routinely mention how hard the Raiders play under Allen and his staff. At some point, Allen said, the hard work will manifest itself in more victories.
“I like the guys that are in that locker room,” Allen said. “I understand where we’re at from a record standpoint, but these guys have gone out there and given us everything that they’ve had every single week. I continue to expect to see that for the last four weeks of the season.”

– Khalif Barnes’ first NFL start at guard didn’t go quite as well as planned, Allen said. However, he got better as the game progressed and is considered an option at the position moving forward.

– Left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer played every snap Thursday in his first game action since last season.
“He held up good,” Allen said. “I saw him (Friday) morning, and he said he was feeling pretty good, so he got out of that clean.”
Allen planned on spelling Veldheer with Matt McCants from time to time, but Veldheer’s surgically repaired triceps didn’t present any issues.

– Strong safety Tyvon Branch (ankle) worked out with team trainers Friday. Allen said he is hopeful that Branch will return to game action soon. Branch missed the past 10 games.

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  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    Bill Belichick didn’t have a winning record until his fourth season as a head coach.

  • RaidO

    One team..

    “The Patriots went 5–11 in the 2000 regular season and missed the playoffs. To date, this is Belichick’s only losing season with the Patriots, and also the only year in which Tom Brady did not start at quarterback in any regular season games.”

  • 0ak R8rs

    Wow. Shannon sharpe said that? He hates us. That really does mean something. Whether you hold much stake in his opinion or not, it at least shows people r noticing.

  • Al_is_theraiders

    really? what would you call evaluate?

  • http://raiders.com/ Crawfish Joe

    Raiders lost.
    Cougs lost.
    My week end is now lost.

  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    Weeb Ewbank had losing records his first three seasons with the Colts, but went on to win an NFL Championship. Tom Landry’s first FIVE seasons were all losing.

  • M.Shorter

    Lol. Flynn lost to the skins at home

  • willy91137

    Can anybody name a coach that came into a team with a bunch of overpaid check cash and was in salary cap hell in two years he completely rebuilt the defense we got all new starters on defense and will take one more year this team will start winning next year or he will be gone this to many people in here that one instant football they do not make that anymore

  • 0ak R8rs

    Can anybody name another team that was $50 million under the cap and still competed? Ever

  • M.Shorter

    Either way. Same record or not.

  • RaidO

    It’s 2013

    almost 2014

  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    This is news to you?

  • r8ter4evr

    Ya. Was a frustrating loss Have a beer or 12

  • Jojo

    Hear me out people, I like Hue and MD should have kept Hue….if not he should NOT have ok’ed the Palmer trade. In my mind that type of trade commits your team for at least 3 years to the status quo of your team at the time. When MD allowed Reggie to axe Hue that was a big WTF moment for me. Not because I was the biggest Huejax fan, but because why on earth wld you commit to a trade that tide your team to a qb like Plamer that is fit for a style of play like what Huejax favors?!? Enter DA,then Krappy Knapp. Strike 2, ok DA is a young coach but on any level why are you going to implement a system that does not play to the strengths of your personal ( Making Palmer run bootlegs…zone blocking with Dmac [at the time Dmac was bright with "potental"...yeah I know] ). To me that ether exposed DA’s lack of understanding basic strategy or plane arrogance…..jury still out on that one. With all that being said we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, the D is BALLING and regardless of the w/L record progress has been made…the salary cap hell years are all but done, we have 2 bright spots at QB, with a QB rich draft on the horizon we should see fruits of labor bloom. I dont know about you but I was not expecting a Super Bowl run, this team has been suspect since Reggie was hired and given a wreck of a organization,has he mad some questionable personal moves sure…but do I think he would do an Albert Haynesworth (how ever you spell it) type of signing that is something that even all the Reggie haters would agree would not happen. So again I think theres a light at the end of the tunnel….God I hope its not the oncoming train!!!

  • RaidO

    Coaches do not get 3 to 5 seasons to produce. Yes it’s 2013

  • Al_is_theraiders

    and when he goes 4-12 next year again?

  • Gdog

    Uhh, I want 12 next year. I wanted 8-8 this year…

  • 0ak R8rs

    This coach will. Because this situation is unprecedented. And he should have 3 to 4 years. No doubt.

  • Gdog

    … more excuses… wait for it…

  • r8ter4evr

    Ya fast paced tech world wants it right now whats wrong with you

  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    If DA goes 4-12 next year, then it would be time for Reggie to say “It’s not working out. Have a great career!” and go find another coach.

  • Gdog

    You deserve 4 win teams then. He deserves 3 years. NOBODY deserves 4 years… he keeps making the same mistakes over and over…

  • Centered00

    KoolKell-What’s your deal dude? Leave race out of your comments. Your heart is the same color as mine. Leave it alone and grow up.

  • Gdog

    KC had a bunch of morons playing last year… ask their fans.

    Its COACHING…

  • 0ak R8rs

    That’s contingent on 8-8 or 9-7 next year. 4-12 or 6-10 and I’ll want him out of here too.

  • plunkhead

    The only hope is for Meddlesome Mark to retire.
    The Raiders need a need owner and a new stadium and that means a new first name also.

  • RaidO

    Here is the problem. Raiders look like they will go 4-12 or 5-11 this year which means 4-12 2012 and 4-12 or 5-11 2013.

    Next year if DA starts out say 1-5 or 2-6 he will be fired.
    Do they really want to gamble on this no adjusting at halftime should just be a DC head coach?
    No

    DA will have no leeway next season.

    Fire DA!

  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    Kell’s simply not capable of “growing up.” To get into one’s 50s or 60s and still pick fights and sling random insults? He’s a lost cause.

  • 0ak R8rs

    This year I was looking for progress. I’ve seen it. Next year I think it’s fair that record is part of the equation.

  • Gdog

    Seymour, Branch, Brisiel are all on Reggie this year.

    And the QBs we are paying in dead money are playing for other teams… ON REGGIE… keep scooping…

  • Gdog

    He’s a backstabber. Thats the list.

  • 0ak R8rs

    He handled the Seymour situation perfectly. Saved all the money he could be restructuring the disaster that Al started w that contract. Not opinion, fact.

    Briesel and Branch aren’t dead money so not sure what you Eden mean there. Briesel is a top rated guard this year that took a pay cut tho and Branch has played like 5 quarters.

  • r8ter4evr

    Yes have posted those same remarks but I am tired of seeing poor decisions I believe from the plays called take away wins ya I get it inexperienced HC but we cant lose again next year

  • 0ak R8rs

    Why would we start out that poorly?

  • KoolKell

    Hopefully we can be down 21-0 at halftime next week.

  • r8ter4evr

    That is sad but also very comical

  • KoolKell

    Thank you cross poster.

  • spiff

    unless it’s a strong coaching candidate with a winning background I don’t see a change. olsen may and should be shown the door. But allen’s .. play not to lose schematics can’t be tolerated or accepted. it’s the difference between us being 4-8 right now and not 8-4 which we could be………

  • Gdog

    lol… Seymour perfectly? The Reggie Koolade is making your lips red.

    He shoulda cut bait last year… like it would have made a difference on a 4 win season.

    The ONLY reason to keep Seymour was a DEEP playoff run.. if not a SB ring.

    Is that what YOU thought/?? If so, you are as dumb as Duck… and even more sycophantic.

  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    Unless a proven NFL offensive mind like Joe Philbin becomes available and wants to come here, we might as well stick with Olson.

  • RTF916

    Reggie McKenzie fired Hue Jackson because he knew Hue would want as much control as possible. Mark Davis hired Reggie McKenzie because he wants the Raiders to have a general manager, as opposed to the owner being the GM, as was the case with his father. Mark doesn’t know enough about football and he’s smart enough to know that much (although I’m convinced he still meddles). The other option would have been allowing Hue to be HC/GM, but considering the one key GM move of his that we know of, which was mortgaging the future of the franchise for Carson Palmer, I’m really not sure Hue’s cut out for it. I think Mark made the right call. I think that Reggie’s mostly done a good job. We’re a balanced team, we play much better and more consistent defense, we’re able to control games without relying on big offensive plays, something we haven’t done since the Gruden years. In the post Gruden dark years, just about every game we won was due to big offensive plays. We never really controlled games. Just won them by getting lucky and overpowering the defense, which was Al’s way. Unfortunately it only averaged 4 or 5 wins a year.

  • KoolKell

    I agree, it’s hard to fire a HC When He’s got a 70 mil payroll.

  • spiff

    doesn’t see like olsen know how game plan….

  • JOn Wooah

    cuz he is always outcoached. Maybe u havent noticed.

  • r8ter4evr

    Thats what I have been sayimg can we afford another year he needs 2 more wins and competitive in every game or I say cut ties

  • Gdog

    Brisiel a top rated guard? By whose ratings??? 35th in PFF (you KNOW I can look this up right, bubba)?

  • JOn Wooah

    Do you guys trust Reggie with another 1st round and 2nd round pick?? maybe he can get more decent players and no playmakers.

    Maybe he can get another bergstrom in the 1st round. Hopefully, right???

  • r8ter4evr

    The next Cable Sporano

  • Gdog

    WOO HOO! 8 wins! Almost back to where he started!!! Please… 8 wins and he should be TOAST. Now tell me again how Seymour wasn’t a blunder…

  • spiff

    Oakland will be an attractive place , for players and a coach.