Yea, Beeech has to be Cork or another IBABUZZ associate. Only way to explain how Beeech gets away with the stuff he talks about.
Bortles, Manziel, Watkins, Clowney & Mack are the best 5 players in this draft and we could use any of them. stand pat and draft a playmaker. I wouldn’t be too upset if we traded down a few spots and snagged a Tackle, Barr or Gilbert … but i’d be pissed if we end up with Carr or Bridge. In fact, i’d hope Reggie drives his car off a bridge!
yes he will. bet your house on it
By the way we’re just kidding Cork…no need to ban us.
Beeech actually “retired” with a farewell message last week. No fanfare just said he was done and said goodbye.
It’s true, but Olson said they targeted him from day 1, they must believe in him, for whatever that’s worth….
Every once in a while like so many things in life an anomaly happens. Brady and Wilson are two examples of that happening with late round drafted QBs. How many 3-4 round QBs have made it into the NFL. Even the Hawks grabbed Flynn after drafting Wilson in the 3rd. They got lucky with Wilson but I still wouldn’t say Wilson is a Brady. He has yet to show that he can carry the team on his shoulders. He did very little in the SB. You could almost say he was a game manager.
Yes, but the top available QB’s all come with question marks and they are not head and shoulders above some of the 2nd tier prospects.
I think moving forward, the mid-round QBs will be just as successful as the 1st round QBs. There may be 1 can’t miss prospect like a Luck every now and then, but that guy will stick out like a sore thumb. That guy isn’t in this draft. The QB class is becoming more and more like the NCAA basketball tournament imo.
Russell Wilson is an excellent QB. how dare you lump him in with Jason Campbell, Matt Moore, Chad Henne, Matt Cassel and many other “game manager” QB’s around the league… go slap yourself. I’d love to have RW wearing silver & black for the next 10 years !! Wouldn’t be upset if Reggie traded 5th & 36th picks for him
I’m not sure Borttles can get to elite status like Manziel,Carr or possibly Bridgewater. Those three are much better than Bortles with more upside.
I hope they’re right. I like the move a lot…and as much as I like to post his pre-2013 stats and his pro bowl accolades etc. I have my “concerns” too.
How long did Brady have to sit on the bench to get his chance too?
A good Pro Day from Mettenberger and he can make a big leap….
1st tier: Manzeil, Bortles
2nd tier: Bridgewater, Carr
3rd tier: Mettenberger, Garoppolo, Murray
nobody else is even draftable imo
His Landlord will be pissed if he does.
no. you’re wrong. Bortles is the best QB in this draft class, hands down
3/29/14: Sources have told WalterFootball.com that Carr is the most natural passer in the 2014 NFL Draft and his stock is on the rise. There are more teams that are excited about Carr than other more highly touted quarterbacks like Teddy Bridgewater or Johnny Manziel.
Louisville QB Teddy Bridgewater passed the seven metric “Parcells Rules” and amassed an elite 0.6 percent bad decision rate against BCS opponents, ESPN’s KC Joyner writes.
Technically, Bridgewater fell short in one criteria, because he bolted school after his junior year, but Bill Parcells himself ruled that Teddy B gets a free pass because he graduated in December. Joyner’s research showed that Bridgewater made zero mistakes on passes thrown 10 or fewer yards downfield, and a spectacular 1.8 percent BDR on vertical passes (slightly worse than Andrew Luck’s rate, and much better than Robert Griffin III and Cam Newton).
“History shows players of this caliber are very rare, and that scarcity should make Bridgewater one of the top picks in the 2014 NFL draft,” Joyner writes in summation of the in-depth study. “If he slides down the board at all, he could develop into one of this year’s draft steals.”
already some talk of him going in the second round. depending on if we pass on Teddy, I’d be happy if we took him in round 3.
I hope he’s a Top 4 overall pick and Reggie isn’t tempted to select this sack of crap player
3/29/14: Sources from around the NFL have been lukewarm on Bridgewater. He had a disappointing pro-day performance, and sources have said that it’s possible that Bridgewater has a draft-day free fall.
Bridgewater has a good skill set, but not a great one, according to NFL evaluators. He is not the athlete or passer that Cam Newton or Andrew Luck is. Bridgewater has a strong arm, but not an elite cannon. While he has some mobility on rollouts, he isn’t viewed as being close to the same type of running threat as Newton or Luck. Bridgewater isn’t projected to be a true dual-threat quarterback in the NFL. He also is smaller than those other quarterbacks. Sources are really concerned about Bridgewater’s thin frame and his ability to stay healthy once the hits start coming from NFL defensive linemen.
Most pro ready QB’s in this draft, from a pocket passer perspective are Teddy B and Z Mett
sources who don’t name themselves are full of ish
i’m calling you draft day, don’t hide to me , Watkins is an elite propsect, he is gone with Clowney and Mack before the 5th pick
sources say 4 out of 5 dentists prefer customers who chew trident gum.
While other college quarterbacks are looking to the sideline for their on-field adjustments, Bridgewater does it all by himself.
“I gave him the keys to the car as a sophomore,” said Watson, who has been a coach for 32 years. “I had never done that before.”
Bridgewater has vast responsibility at the line of scrimmage. First there is the kill system. Two or three plays are called in the huddle. Depending on the defense, Bridgewater has the ability to “kill” the first play, and run one of the others. It’s solely Bridgewater’s decision.
Bridgewater also has an audible system at his disposal, with the same goal as every good NFL system: stay out of bad plays. If the play Watson has called has little chance of success against a particular defense, Bridgewater can change the play entirely at the line of scrimmage.
Finally, Bridgewater redirects the offensive line protections by either identifying the middle linebacker in man-to-man protections, or directing the slide one way or the other in zone.
You’d be hard-pressed to find many, if any, college quarterbacks that are asked to do that much, especially at 21 years old and in a completely full-field read progression system. Most of the recent top drafted quarterbacks, like E.J. Manuel, Geno Smith and Robert Griffin III, came from systems that called for quarterbacks to only read half or a quarter of the field. Bridgewater has the ability to direct the ball to any part of the field on every snap.
Carr was tremendous in carrying Fresno State to a two-loss season in 2013. He was clutch in the fourth quarter and overtime to push his team to wins over Rutgers and Boise State. The senior was excellent in his decision-making while showing a strong arm with good field vision. Carr has a powerful arm and is a developed pocket passer.
Preach! Teddy is getting the silent treatment right now, GM’s are hoping he falls. He’s the prize QB of this draft. Don’t be fooled.
I think you and Guest listen to Jaworski too much.
If he is lucky he won’t get hit too much. Makes me think of Manning in Denver. If any QB would seem susceptible to having their career end it would be Peyton Manning. The guy never seems to take the big hit. When is the last time he’s been really popped? He’s pushing 40 and has a surgically repaired neck. Denver is one good hit away from ending their SB aspirations.
Specially with the OL adjustments, shows a rare overall handle of the game by a 21 year old.
Is manzella related to the former president GB? He kinda looks like the guy… sorta explains why he was at the pro day.
Also explains why the Texans got rid of Shob.
Name me one important significant game he ever won. Rutgers and Boise don’t count.
I don’t, I make my own opinions, just recently watched Mettenberger’s video and found a lot to like.
and the frame and weight concerns are overblown. people forget he’s a young kid and is going to grow into that slight frame. give him time. he’s a football junkie.
Maizieto, and Foster kicking it…
Future team mates…
Your missing the point. Fresno was not in the same league as say USC. You put Carr with USC and he would have been the sure fire 1 overall pick in this years draft.
Stock is down for a reason, stay away from him.
Manziel might look like a sexy pick but too many things can go wrong with him also, red flag.
Bortles seems like a safer pick. let him learn a couple of years behind Schaub.
call me on it, bro. i’m ready!
Savage will at the very least enter the 3rd tier. Maybe AJ Macaroon will too. You got Manziel incorrectly slotted, he’s second tier with Bortles. Bridgewater stands alone on tier one.
Is it?….smokescreen time, only media folks are speaking their mind right now.
if he was so hot-shot, why didn’t he end up in SC? he tore up a bunch of lesser competition in a weak conference, and every time he had to step up to play against the big boys he got his face punched and didn’t respond. pride? poise? nope!
Even Mayock took im down, not good.
I used to think Manziel was the most overrated and overhyped QB in the draft, but Carr came out of nowhere and trumped him. I want to know how much money he’s paying these “sources” that spew this nonsense about him?
I did too. Mettenberger has a lot to like. Protypical size, love the arm. Especially the deep throw. He’s a bit of a statue in the pocket but I can see him succeed in the NFL.
Interesting conversation about QB.
Please remember Tom Brady was a seventh round selection and Jamarcus Russell went as the number one pick in 2007.
In 2013, Carr completed 69 percent of his passes for 5,083 yards with 50 touchdowns and eight interceptions. It looked like he was playing seven-on-seven football with the way he threaded the ball in all levels of the defense and took what the defenders are giving him.