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Former Raiders coach John Madden has plenty to say about Hall of Fame punter Ray Guy

49ers beat writer Cam Inman recently spoke to John Madden and asked him about punter Ray Guy, who will be inducted Saturday into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I used small portions of what Madden said in a story which ran in Friday’s Bay Area news Group papers and is currently posted on the insidebayarea.com Web site.

Madden will be the presenter for Guy prior to his induction. Here are Madden’s thoughts on Guy:

On if he has a favorite punt or best memory:

“Best memory I have was when I first saw him. The first time he punted in practice up at Santa Rosa, I didn’t want him to wear his leg out and kick too much. He kicked some and they were good. I said, ‘That’s enough, I don’t want you to tire your leg out.’ He said, ‘Coach I haven’t even started yet. I’m warming up.’ It wasn’t a smart ass thing. He was in warm-up and we were all watching. A couple kicks later, he said he was ready to go.

“I never heard anything like the sound and never seen anything like the height and distance. They say about Ray Guy’s responsibility for hang time, but you know what it was, he kicked so long no one had ever seen anything like that. All pundits would say he’s going to outkick coverage. I said, (B.S.), if he outkicks the coverage, we’re going to go out and get new cover guys.’ Then I started timing how long the ball was in the air, and if you cover guys can’t get down there in that time, you can’t play for us. I wasn’t trying to get hang time there; I was trying to get their speed down to see how fast you could get there. I was taking it off Ray Guy and putting it on them. He was so impressive that first day, like if get a guy that can hit a golf ball and it sounds different than yours does, his ball sounded different.

In the same practice he gets in there at strong safety. In those days we practiced in pads . There he is at safety. I told him to get the hell out of there. He walks off the field with his head down. After practice he walks up to me and said, ‘When Ron Wolf signed me, he told me I could play safety too.’ I said this guy is too good and I’m not going to have this be an ongoing thing. So I said Ron Wolf lied, and I kept walking. We never discussed it again. That’s what I wanted.”

Did Wolf really lie?

“No. Ron Wolf probably never told a lie in his life. There was no way I was going to let him play safety. I had Tatum, Atkinson, Phillips …

On using a first-round pick:

“That was our opportunity to get the best player at his position, and not only that, but the best player ever at his position. That was a no brainer. We didn’t have one person against that.

On if a punter could be accepted a first-round pick in today’s era:

“He was a once in a lifetime guy, and there weren’t as many pundits then. He was an all-American. He played in the college all-star game. It wasn’t like he was a guy from Southern Mississippi that no one knew about. He was something special from the day he walked in.”

On a punter being enshrined:

They were the last position to be a fulltime position … Now that that’s broken through (at the Hall of Fame), any position. There’s not a position that’s not represented.”

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  • hwnrdr

    Yay! New Post!

  • JerryMcDonalds#1Fan

    Ray Guy made it ??

  • Miamiraider78

    Yo! I’m sitting back and enjoying reading up on the informative observations and analysis from you all. Good stuff!

    Go Raiders!!!

  • Elliot

    Good stuff on Guy…any of you who were never old enough to see him play I recommend that you find footage ..he was flat out the best ever..

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Remember! Brian Leonhardt, sleeper Tight End. with Rivera and Ausberry. You heard it here first.

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    Al is God.

    FIRE REGGIE NOW.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Yo! Miami!

  • JerryMcDonalds#1Fan

    Kasa is healthy. may the best man win!!

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Put it inside the 5!

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Kasa is always healthy, intermittently.

  • AlDavisJr

    Can he block?

  • Guest123

    we landed on the moon!

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Even after winning the Superbowl?

  • JV.

    Good blocker but questionable hands.

  • JV.

    Murphy might sneak in there.

    Good legacy.

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com/ SilverandBlack666

    Second!!

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com/ SilverandBlack666

    Elvis is DEAD!!!

  • FourMoreYears

    Big Gulp, huh?

  • AlDavisJr

    Which skill is teachable? DHB was a klutz and never learned to catch well. Can Kasa work with McGloin a lot—I mean a lot and learn that?

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com/ SilverandBlack666

    I would worship him!

  • FourMoreYears

    “All pundits would say he’s going to outkick coverage. I said, (B.S.), if he outkicks the coverage, we’re going to go out and get new cover guys.’”

    You don’t adjust, you just dominate. – Al Davis.

  • Miamiraider78

    Yes and can you wait 8 weeks? Lol

  • R8erEduc8er

    You da man, Jer!!

  • JV.

    He’s a former DE in college..

    But he’s not like DHB bad but he’s not as good as a catcher as Rivera is. But he’s made a couple of nice plays especially his TD in preseason and in week 16

  • Guest123

    everyone that knows me personally tells me I outkicked my coverage. but I’m not offended.

  • Guest123

    All Hail Jerry!

  • R8erEduc8er

    “Best memory I have was when I first saw him…”

    +++

    Interview started off like a love story.

  • AlDavisJr

    Thx–On the job training, then. With Schauby, the TE’s are supposed to get lots of opportunity. Sounds like Rivera is syncing up with Schaub. Maybe if he had to play every down for an entire game as a blocking tight end, Rivera would get a better grip.

  • FourMoreYears

    Well see, that’s the proof. You were just better than them.

  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    It’s going to be funny hearing you say that in 20 years when Reggie’s gotten us a half-dozen Lombardis…

  • WILLY91137

    Why don’t you give us some of your football knowledge

  • Guest123

    5 minutes left. Don’t want to end the week on a dour note, but what’s the deal with Holmes? He’s falling off a cliff lately. Is he a surprise cut maybe?

  • R8erEduc8er

    Change it up a little everyone once and a while and tell us who we should KEEP!!

  • 0ak R8rs

    Can we teach Kasa to not be slow and plodding with inconsistent hands and a lack of ability to get open?

  • Mike_Trail

    “Like if get a guy that can hit a golf ball and it sounds different than yours does, his ball sounded different….” I know that sound….makes me want to sell my clubs when Im around someone who can do it….or keep practicing.

  • scinfidel

    His performance at this camp isn’t going to keep him here.. he better look great in the preseason games or he might just get cut.

  • 0ak R8rs

    Yea. He’s been disappointing. It’s just TC tho. Maybe he turns it on when he hits the field. Sloppy route running and inconsistent hands is worrisome.

  • FourMoreYears

    KEEP 53 GUYS.

  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    That would involve Hunter actually thinking and giving intelligent replies instead of just mindlessly slamming Reggie.

  • Mike_Trail

    Every man’s goal….

  • Guest123

    I know that sound too. I whack that ball and it makes a wallop sound and maybe goes 200. I think I hit the shlt outta the ball and it’s way short of the dogleg. Then I see someone who knows how to play and ball has a really light “ting” sound and the ball just disappears, 325 or so with line of sight to the flag. pisses me off. how something like a sound can be so telling.

  • 0ak R8rs

    Glad to see you’re back. Thanks for the contribution.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Exactly.

  • Gdog

    Like it takes a lot of intelligence to mindlessly support him.

  • TrevJo

    Guy = best player ever who played his college ball in the state of Mississippi!

  • Mike_Trail

    Its seriously jaw dropping. Im a +10 and the difference between what my ball sounds like, what its trajectory looks like, and the spin that gets put on it, and a +1 or +2 makes me want to freakin cry sometimes…but it also makes me want to get better. Played with a guy who is 20 years older than me the other day and I felt like Mike Meyers in Waynes world talking to Alice Cooper “I am not worthy….”
    It’s kind of embarrassing really lol

  • TrevJo

    Madden is the best

  • Mike_Trail

    Its the ‘crack and the whoosh’….something to behold with your eyes and your ears that is for sure.

  • WILLY91137

    Is Kasa the one started out as a defensive end

  • rifflicks

    I guess you never heard of a guy named Brett Favre