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Former Raiders coach John Madden has plenty to say about Hall of Fame punter Ray Guy

49ers beat writer Cam Inman recently spoke to John Madden and asked him about punter Ray Guy, who will be inducted Saturday into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I used small portions of what Madden said in a story which ran in Friday’s Bay Area news Group papers and is currently posted on the insidebayarea.com Web site.

Madden will be the presenter for Guy prior to his induction. Here are Madden’s thoughts on Guy:

On if he has a favorite punt or best memory:

“Best memory I have was when I first saw him. The first time he punted in practice up at Santa Rosa, I didn’t want him to wear his leg out and kick too much. He kicked some and they were good. I said, ‘That’s enough, I don’t want you to tire your leg out.’ He said, ‘Coach I haven’t even started yet. I’m warming up.’ It wasn’t a smart ass thing. He was in warm-up and we were all watching. A couple kicks later, he said he was ready to go.

“I never heard anything like the sound and never seen anything like the height and distance. They say about Ray Guy’s responsibility for hang time, but you know what it was, he kicked so long no one had ever seen anything like that. All pundits would say he’s going to outkick coverage. I said, (B.S.), if he outkicks the coverage, we’re going to go out and get new cover guys.’ Then I started timing how long the ball was in the air, and if you cover guys can’t get down there in that time, you can’t play for us. I wasn’t trying to get hang time there; I was trying to get their speed down to see how fast you could get there. I was taking it off Ray Guy and putting it on them. He was so impressive that first day, like if get a guy that can hit a golf ball and it sounds different than yours does, his ball sounded different.

In the same practice he gets in there at strong safety. In those days we practiced in pads . There he is at safety. I told him to get the hell out of there. He walks off the field with his head down. After practice he walks up to me and said, ‘When Ron Wolf signed me, he told me I could play safety too.’ I said this guy is too good and I’m not going to have this be an ongoing thing. So I said Ron Wolf lied, and I kept walking. We never discussed it again. That’s what I wanted.”

Did Wolf really lie?

“No. Ron Wolf probably never told a lie in his life. There was no way I was going to let him play safety. I had Tatum, Atkinson, Phillips …

On using a first-round pick:

“That was our opportunity to get the best player at his position, and not only that, but the best player ever at his position. That was a no brainer. We didn’t have one person against that.

On if a punter could be accepted a first-round pick in today’s era:

“He was a once in a lifetime guy, and there weren’t as many pundits then. He was an all-American. He played in the college all-star game. It wasn’t like he was a guy from Southern Mississippi that no one knew about. He was something special from the day he walked in.”

On a punter being enshrined:

They were the last position to be a fulltime position … Now that that’s broken through (at the Hall of Fame), any position. There’s not a position that’s not represented.”

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  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    You and I disagree a lot to be sure, but when you criticize Reggie’s decisions, you bring facts and figures and observations. Hunter does none of this. Big difference.

  • 0ak R8rs

    Well it’s not much of a list. But yea.

  • RaidO

    4-12, 4-12 are pretty good “facts” that Hunter uses

  • http://batman-news.com 559 Raider 87

    There was this other guy, I think he played WR. He was alright also

  • 0ak R8rs

    No. That’s Mississippi Valley State. Not Ole Miss.

  • rifflicks

    his iq and shoe size and he stutters

  • 0ak R8rs

    Oh nevermind. He did say the state didn’t he? Yea.

  • WILLY91137

    I watched him play from the beginning when A L Davis drafted him with the first pick…AL lost his mind but after the first season I seen what he was talking about Ray Guy was a defensive weapon

  • http://batman-news.com 559 Raider 87

    He said in the state of Mississippi

  • 0ak R8rs

    Forgot about him. Why isn’t he in the HOF yet? Has it not been 5 years since he retired?

  • 0ak R8rs

    Yea. Corrected above.

  • rifflicks

    he keeps un-retiring

  • Elliot

    Me as well…he was exactly that a weapon…

  • FourMoreYears

    He’s eligible in 2016.

  • rifflicks

    Ray Guy played at Southern Mississipp like Favre….not ole Miss

  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    And Al did worse than that once or twice, but Hunter said nothing. Didn’t object in the slightest.

  • http://batman-news.com 559 Raider 87

    Yea, Im down with taking my Raiders over anybody. But that statement he made was a little far fetched. That WR had a pretty good career, if Im not mistaken

  • 0ak R8rs

    Thought they both came from Mississippi. Oh well.

  • DutchRaid

    No guy or Favre, but where do you think Patrick Willis will rank, Ole Miss guy?

  • R8erEduc8er

    There’s a huge list of great players from Mississippi.

  • FourMoreYears

    And Eli Manning too.

  • 0ak R8rs

    Too early for him. But pretty damned good so far.

  • WILLY91137

    Ray Guy and Jerry Rice

  • 0ak R8rs

    When I said that I thought he was talking strictly Ole Miss. Which isn’t even where Guy came from. So nevermind.

  • Mike_Trail

    Jerry had a couple of decent QB’s throwing to him….

  • WILLY91137

    Is not in the Hall of Fame yet is he

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    No. It takes the ability to consider multiple variables at the same time time to agree with what he’s doing.

  • Tyler Angelica Miller

    Kory sheets!!! Let’s go!!!!!

  • http://batman-news.com 559 Raider 87

    Yea he did have Rich Gannon throwing to him

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    No. Gdog’s mind is made up and he will never ever change it just on principle. Whip out his Pfffft if necessary.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Best player is either Jerry Rice (Mississipp Valley State) or Walter Payton (Jackson State).

  • WILLY91137

    didn’t Manning play at old miss

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    His feet aren’t that big. Unless you believe what they say about guys with big feet.

  • TrevJo

    It was a joke, people.
    I would say honestly that he’s my favorite player that played his college ball in the state of Mississippi, though!

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Good luck, canuck.

  • DutchRaid

    Tennessee…

  • TrevJo

    Obviously Rice and Favre are actually better than Guy (Patrick Willis too), however Ray Guy > Eli Manning

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Sounds much better than Ray Rice and Jerry Guy.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    He retired!?

  • DutchRaid

    Eli and Archie though…

  • R8erEduc8er

    Kory “Sheets The Bed”!!!

  • WILLY91137

    I cannot make that decision sweetness or rice you pick him I can’t

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Spaced out on the last post and saw Return taking it to many of us, where we’d never notice. Guess he’s getting warmed up.
    Beware the Return of Return.

  • WILLY91137

    Has he been out five years

  • JerryMcDonalds#1Fan

    Laces Out!!

  • Gdog

    Lying is an ugly trait. You look like an ogre right now.

  • rifflicks

    joke’s on “you”

  • FourMoreYears

    I was agreeing that there were a lot of great players that played college ball in Mississippi and then saying that Eli Manning also played ball there.

    This is the second joke I’ve had to explain today, either I suck or all of you do.

  • rifflicks

    neither is Ray Guy

  • WILLY91137

    did you guys think King will be as good as Ray someday