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Former Raiders coach John Madden has plenty to say about Hall of Fame punter Ray Guy

49ers beat writer Cam Inman recently spoke to John Madden and asked him about punter Ray Guy, who will be inducted Saturday into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I used small portions of what Madden said in a story which ran in Friday’s Bay Area news Group papers and is currently posted on the insidebayarea.com Web site.

Madden will be the presenter for Guy prior to his induction. Here are Madden’s thoughts on Guy:

On if he has a favorite punt or best memory:

“Best memory I have was when I first saw him. The first time he punted in practice up at Santa Rosa, I didn’t want him to wear his leg out and kick too much. He kicked some and they were good. I said, ‘That’s enough, I don’t want you to tire your leg out.’ He said, ‘Coach I haven’t even started yet. I’m warming up.’ It wasn’t a smart ass thing. He was in warm-up and we were all watching. A couple kicks later, he said he was ready to go.

“I never heard anything like the sound and never seen anything like the height and distance. They say about Ray Guy’s responsibility for hang time, but you know what it was, he kicked so long no one had ever seen anything like that. All pundits would say he’s going to outkick coverage. I said, (B.S.), if he outkicks the coverage, we’re going to go out and get new cover guys.’ Then I started timing how long the ball was in the air, and if you cover guys can’t get down there in that time, you can’t play for us. I wasn’t trying to get hang time there; I was trying to get their speed down to see how fast you could get there. I was taking it off Ray Guy and putting it on them. He was so impressive that first day, like if get a guy that can hit a golf ball and it sounds different than yours does, his ball sounded different.

In the same practice he gets in there at strong safety. In those days we practiced in pads . There he is at safety. I told him to get the hell out of there. He walks off the field with his head down. After practice he walks up to me and said, ‘When Ron Wolf signed me, he told me I could play safety too.’ I said this guy is too good and I’m not going to have this be an ongoing thing. So I said Ron Wolf lied, and I kept walking. We never discussed it again. That’s what I wanted.”

Did Wolf really lie?

“No. Ron Wolf probably never told a lie in his life. There was no way I was going to let him play safety. I had Tatum, Atkinson, Phillips …

On using a first-round pick:

“That was our opportunity to get the best player at his position, and not only that, but the best player ever at his position. That was a no brainer. We didn’t have one person against that.

On if a punter could be accepted a first-round pick in today’s era:

“He was a once in a lifetime guy, and there weren’t as many pundits then. He was an all-American. He played in the college all-star game. It wasn’t like he was a guy from Southern Mississippi that no one knew about. He was something special from the day he walked in.”

On a punter being enshrined:

They were the last position to be a fulltime position … Now that that’s broken through (at the Hall of Fame), any position. There’s not a position that’s not represented.”

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  • Gdog

    I was hoping the new guy could do better than a desperate, partly senile, head strong 80 year old.

    Your bar is set lower.

    Reggie needs to keep from drooling on his shoes to draw applause from you.

  • rifflicks

    guys with big feet started that myth

  • FourMoreYears

    Posted this earlier, think you’ll like it.

    “Having handled all the punting and kicking duties at Southern Miss in addition to intercepting 18 passes in three years as a safety, Guy conceded in a conference call that being a specialist was a difficult adjustment.

    ‘I had to get that mentality of being a starting safety and hitting people out of my mind and then focus on being a punter,’ Guy said.”

    http://www.mercurynews.com/rai

    “SOMETHING I’VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE

    A punter gunning down the sideline with a red beanie on his helmet as a member of the scout kickoff team. Marquette King, who could pass for a cornerback, was actually recruited to Fort Valley State as a wide receiver. Last season at age 25, he led the NFL in yards per punt (48.9) with a long of 66. Said one staffer: ‘I think he just gets bored of punting.’”

    http://mmqb.si.com/2014/07/30/

    Cut from the same cloth?

  • rifflicks

    why are you always standing a puddle?

  • Lowdown_in_Beijing

    The board is way too tepid.

    The window still open for a D. Moore trade?

  • rifflicks

    N O

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    There’s a fun choice.But it’s pretty obvious, It’d have to be————hands down!

  • Sir Raider Duck, OMS

    And we’ll find out this year what kind of team Reggie can assemble when he has the money. I’m expecting at least nine wins.

  • FourMoreYears

    You can’t compare the positions outright, but Ray Guy is the undisputed best ever at his position. I don’t think you can say Favre is the greatest quarterback ever. Therefore Guy > Favre. QED.

  • Gdog

    I am pretty sure Vegas would be happy to lay out great odds for that bet.

  • FourMoreYears

    Rice. Easy.

  • 8raiderreign8

    That was a good/bad movie for kickers

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Either you are always right, or you will never change your mind in a debate. If you are always right, my apologies.

    You have never changed your mind in a debate.
    Or am I lying?

  • 0ak R8rs

    He’s got the leg. But he has a long way to go as far as accuracy and consistent hang time.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Orgasmic blog domination.

  • 0ak R8rs

    Yes, please.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    I thought they were clowns.

  • PlunkforHOF

    Played about 20 years ago with this guys in his late 70′s, maybe 80′s. Had a bag full of woods, hardly any irons. All the way down to 9-wood as I remember. Didn’t hit it far, but straight at where he was aiming EVERY time. He kicked 3 thirty-somethings azzes.

  • JLofty

    Ray Guy not only changed football games with his talent and skill and ability. Ray Guy changed the game of football….

  • R8erEduc8er

    Draw

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    No. Just a knee jerk reaction.

  • PlunkforHOF

    True as true can be. What up J. We gonna do a game again this year? Trying to coordinate with other semi’s.

  • JLofty

    Idk why but that made me spit my coffee out my nose laughing….

  • PlunkforHOF

    Schaub on BSPN

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Can I bring a Silver and Black llama?

  • 8raiderreign8

    It’s gotta be the whiner game

  • PlunkforHOF

    Stink dogging us. Gigantic surprise.

  • Gdog

    You are either lying or aren’t paying attention fully. Do you memorize my every post or something? I often say “point made”, or stand corrected if I make a mistake.
    I admit you have to have a pretty damn strong argument for me to change my opinion… especially if all one brings to the table is THEIR opinion and antagonism to PFF (like that is a GOOD thing or something.)

    You are becoming as tough of a read as Riffy. I used to actually enjoy your posts.

  • JLofty

    Heck yeah. We only have 7 to choose from this year though – yes?

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    I had to get it out of my head. Ray’s OK, but Jerry Guy just doesn’t cut it.

  • lefty12

    NO

  • JLofty

    Possible but not likely. King is pretty dang good and getting better. Really thought he’d have a hard time following/replacing Lechler….

  • PlunkforHOF

    Blasphemy!

  • JLofty

    Bring it?!? I thought we were gunna ride em to Coli….

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    2014 Purvisman. I’ve had enough. No fvcking quarter.

  • lefty12

    No they weren’t.

  • PlunkforHOF

    Yep. Unless we fly to London. Someone said Whiners. Isn’t that in Santa Clara?

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Until it gets hot and heavy in here, I read most every post. I know who several posters are and don’t have a hard time remembering who said what. I have 40 llamas, all of whom have names and idiosyncrasies. I know them all. Why would I have to memorize your posts?

  • PlunkforHOF

    Ironic that they get to travel 40 miles for an away game and we travel halfway around the world for a home game.

  • WILLY91137

    that’s right Eli played at his dad’s at his dad school

  • PlunkforHOF

    Probably need to decide soon for 9rs. Their fans will buy tix.

  • WILLY91137

    Ar travel and schedule is brutal we get a bye after three or four games and we started out on the East Coast

  • JV.

    Raiders on NFLN today.

  • PlunkforHOF

    Good looking out.

  • JV.

    @957thegame: Greg Papa one-on-one sit-down with #Raiders HOFer to be enshrined tomorrow, the great Ray Guy now!

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Unlike everybody else, or most, I didn’t have a problem with Reggie agonizing on the punter position last year, since Holmes was coming in week 4 and somebody had to be cut.
    Kluwe might have been better short term as a more consistant punter and better holder for Jano. King had youth and a better leg. Kluwe might have made the difference in a game or two. Not in retrospect. If you’re giving up on the season pre season, you pick King. I’m very glad Reggie doesn’t approach each year with that mindset.
    He did eventually pick King, with zero roster repercussions, and made the right pick. The guy (?) could be a monster.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Jed’s mellow, but you don’t want to try that.

  • https://twitter.com/MimiPeepeechimi Just Fire Baby

    I will not buy his Green Chile’s!!!

  • PlunkforHOF

    You are all Raider.

  • PlunkforHOF

    Raiders up next on NFLN.