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Former Raiders coach John Madden has plenty to say about Hall of Fame punter Ray Guy

49ers beat writer Cam Inman recently spoke to John Madden and asked him about punter Ray Guy, who will be inducted Saturday into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I used small portions of what Madden said in a story which ran in Friday’s Bay Area news Group papers and is currently posted on the insidebayarea.com Web site.

Madden will be the presenter for Guy prior to his induction. Here are Madden’s thoughts on Guy:

On if he has a favorite punt or best memory:

“Best memory I have was when I first saw him. The first time he punted in practice up at Santa Rosa, I didn’t want him to wear his leg out and kick too much. He kicked some and they were good. I said, ‘That’s enough, I don’t want you to tire your leg out.’ He said, ‘Coach I haven’t even started yet. I’m warming up.’ It wasn’t a smart ass thing. He was in warm-up and we were all watching. A couple kicks later, he said he was ready to go.

“I never heard anything like the sound and never seen anything like the height and distance. They say about Ray Guy’s responsibility for hang time, but you know what it was, he kicked so long no one had ever seen anything like that. All pundits would say he’s going to outkick coverage. I said, (B.S.), if he outkicks the coverage, we’re going to go out and get new cover guys.’ Then I started timing how long the ball was in the air, and if you cover guys can’t get down there in that time, you can’t play for us. I wasn’t trying to get hang time there; I was trying to get their speed down to see how fast you could get there. I was taking it off Ray Guy and putting it on them. He was so impressive that first day, like if get a guy that can hit a golf ball and it sounds different than yours does, his ball sounded different.

In the same practice he gets in there at strong safety. In those days we practiced in pads . There he is at safety. I told him to get the hell out of there. He walks off the field with his head down. After practice he walks up to me and said, ‘When Ron Wolf signed me, he told me I could play safety too.’ I said this guy is too good and I’m not going to have this be an ongoing thing. So I said Ron Wolf lied, and I kept walking. We never discussed it again. That’s what I wanted.”

Did Wolf really lie?

“No. Ron Wolf probably never told a lie in his life. There was no way I was going to let him play safety. I had Tatum, Atkinson, Phillips …

On using a first-round pick:

“That was our opportunity to get the best player at his position, and not only that, but the best player ever at his position. That was a no brainer. We didn’t have one person against that.

On if a punter could be accepted a first-round pick in today’s era:

“He was a once in a lifetime guy, and there weren’t as many pundits then. He was an all-American. He played in the college all-star game. It wasn’t like he was a guy from Southern Mississippi that no one knew about. He was something special from the day he walked in.”

On a punter being enshrined:

They were the last position to be a fulltime position … Now that that’s broken through (at the Hall of Fame), any position. There’s not a position that’s not represented.”

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  • JV.

    Wow Dennis Allen actually looked tough in that promo.

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com/ SilverandBlack666

    HEY KOOL AID!!!!

  • JV.

    Schuab interview on NFLN after practice.

  • marks hair

    The whole team is photbombing Steve mariuci.lol

  • JV.

    Wow a segment over 1 min… Must’ve ran out of browns footage.

  • PlunkforHOF

    Optimism Abounds. That was the most non-bashing coverage I’ve seen this year. Thanks Mooch!

  • marks hair

    Why not the Oakland Raiders? Lol great segment

  • JV.

    It’s so sarcastic… It kinda makes me laugh but as fans it’s great to get some coverage.

  • http://cosmicdanceband.com/ SilverandBlack666

    KOOL AID!!

  • JV.

    Welp there’s the bashing.

  • PlunkforHOF

    This fat dude looks and reminds me of Sapp in glasses.

  • JV.

    Lol even the host was just sitting there like…

    “Dude ok I get it”

  • PlunkforHOF

    WHO IS THIS GUY? What a d!ck.

  • marks hair

    Wow.. Jamie is a cùnt

  • RaiderCDE

    Jaimee Dukes is a punk.

  • PlunkforHOF

    I’ve never even heard of him. Sapp Lite.

  • Elliot

    I was cursing my tv Jamie dukes is moronic…

  • RaiderCDE

    DA needs to show this a collage of the NFLN/BSPN bash videos to the team – every day.

  • https://twitter.com/MimiPeepeechimi Just Fire Baby

    That seemed pretty fair to me.
    Our local guys are drastically more negative.

  • Blackholepriest

    I would rather have Ray Guy throwing the football than Schaub…….period

  • HELLSBELLS

    Have to buy a four game package to buy a niner game ticket. Maybe that will change if they cant sell enough. Couldnot even pick up two tickets even with five season tickets on the account.

  • Elliot

    Before they cut away they mention james jones…couldn’t name anyone else but streeter..morons

  • lefty12

    I like it.

  • RaiderCDE

    The chuckling part is unnecessary – its one thing to say you don’t think they will be any good but to insult them over and over is just classless.

  • plunkhead

    Everyone of those fat jug eared fools will climb on the bandwagon when we open 4-1

  • marks hair

    Yeah.. any other team and he would have discussed his opinion alot differently.

  • PlunkforHOF

    Well, that’ll keep Whiner fans from buying up the stadium.

  • RaiderCDE

    Jamie Pukes called the Raiders the ‘laughing stock of the league’ on last weeks ‘Why not us’ segment on Raiders

  • lefty12

    So you are a whiner season ticket holder?

  • JV.

    Yup there’s the same old azz video of Peyton dancing they’ve showed a million times…

  • RaiderCDE

    Love to see Tuck or Woodley call these azzholes out during an interview.

  • MuthaFknZeus

    What did I miss from the bashing? Anything even remotely insightful or the same regurgitated garbage about how we signed old players and schuab is going to be throwing int’s everywhere?

  • RaiderCDE

    Lets put out a fan bounty

  • HELLSBELLS

    Raiders, good one. Trying to get some extras for the old ladys. Probably better they dont come to that game anyway.

  • https://twitter.com/MimiPeepeechimi Just Fire Baby

    Dukes’s delivery was moronic, but the content is on point.
    Schaub is trying to revitalize his career with arguably the worst group of WR’s, RB’s and O-line he has EVER played with.
    Our only hope to offset that is the whole “sum of the parts” argument. But there is no chance anyone on our team at their position will be better then AJ has been, Arian Foster was and Duane Brown is.

  • JV.

    They cream themselves over a broncos segment or a pats segment.

  • PlunkforHOF

    Mooch was actually pretty positive before they went back to the studio. Basically we got a lot of vets with lots to prove and will be better this year. Then they went to the hating azzholes in the studio.

  • Blackholepriest

    Why are you mad at him?

    Get mad at the dumbbell responsible for it……period

  • lefty12

    Exactly.Thats why it isn’t worth the time to watch them and let them piss you off.

  • RaiderCDE

    To say that a guy with 5 straight 90 plus rating seasons and over 24000 yards is only because of one receiver or one running back is not ‘on point’

  • marks hair

    his opinion is fair enough. But he’s still a total cúnt. I’ve always hated his segments and input..

  • MuthaFknZeus

    I’ve never liked Dukes, he’s tries wayyy too hard

  • https://twitter.com/MimiPeepeechimi Just Fire Baby

    Mooch was very positive. I think it was his NorCal bias.

  • JV.

    What he was saying is agreeable but like you said his delivery and way of saying it is just stupid.

  • MuthaFknZeus

    Or maybe cause he was at camp and didnt want to say it in front of them

  • https://twitter.com/MimiPeepeechimi Just Fire Baby

    Nobody said it was “only”, including myself.
    The point is can he be as good as he was a few years ago, with lesser talent around him?
    How is that not a fair question?

  • lefty12

    So Mooch is biased but the east coast clowns in the studio aren’t?

  • https://twitter.com/MimiPeepeechimi Just Fire Baby

    I don’t disagree

  • JV.

    I don’t get mad by what they say.. It’s just that since we rarely get any coverage and that is what they come up with is sad.

  • Blackholepriest

    Mooch was searching for something positive to say.