Raiders QB Matt Schaub sits out with sore elbow in scene eerily similar to last year’s demise of Matt Flynn


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Presumptive starting quarterback Matt Schaub sat out practice Sunday with a sore elbow, a scene eerily similar to a situation a year ago that led to the ascension of Terrelle Pryor as the starting quarterback at the expense of Matt Flynn.

“He came in yesterday afternoon with a little soreness in his elbow,’’ Raiders coach Dennis Allen said. “We’ll see where he’s at tomorrow and kind of take that day by day.’’

Schaub is scheduled to speak to the media following practice Monday and was unavailable for comment. The Raiders host the Seattle Seahawks in their preseason finale Thursday night at O.co Coliseum.

All the work in practice went to rookie Derek Carr, second-year player Matt McGloin and veteran Trent Edwards, with Carr getting first-team reps, according to Allen.

Schaub was an involved spectator, holding a football in his right hand and interacting with the quarterbacks as well as offensive coordinator Greg Olson and defensive coordinator John DeFilippo.

Through three preseason games, Schaub is 24 of 47 for 218 yards, no touchdowns, one interception, a passer rating of 55.1. He is averaging only 4.6 yards per pass attempt. A 40-yard completion to Denarius Moore in the third quarter of a 31-21 loss to Green Bay was Schaub’s first down-field completion of the preseason.

Schaub’s longest completion other than the pass to Moore was 22 yards on a screen pass to Maurice Jones-Drew against the Detroit Lions.

While there is a growing perception outside the organization that Schaub’s passes have lacked zip, Allen reiterated he wasn’t concerned based on what he’s seen in practice and games.

“I hadn’t really seen it affect him . . . but we’ll see how he does over the next couple of days,’’ Allen said.

In a conference call with the local media late Saturday afternoon, Allen gave the same answer to questions about Schaub’s arm strength even though he’d already met with the quarterback and learned of the sore elbow.

Schaub could be fine after a day of rest and be back at practice, ironing out difficulties with the first-team offense that Allen says are unit-wide and not restricted to quarterback play.

If not, comparisons to Flynn falling out of favor are inevitable, based on the similarities in circumstance.

Through three-preseason games, Flynn was 19 of 27 for 180 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions. He was also sacked seven times and fumbled twice, losing one.

After Flynn was 3 of 6 for 19 yards and two interceptions against the Bears, Allen said last Aug. 25 the quarterback would rest his arm because of “elbow tendonitis.’’ Pryor started the preseason finale against Seattle.

In the days leading up to the regular-season opener in Indianapolis, Allen, citing “competitive advantage’’ declined to publicly pick a starter, although reports surfaced it would be Pryor.

Flynn struggled in his lone regular-season start against Washington when Pryor had a concussion, was dropped to third string and eventually released on Oct. 7 at a cost of $6.5 million to the Raiders. He returned to the Green Bay Packers, starting four games because of an injury to Aaron Rodgers.

— Carr showed no ill effects from his sore ribs or his concussion and Allen expects him to play against Seattle. As the backup, Carr would start if Schaub is held out.

Allen said he hasn’t determined how much starters would play, and some likely won’t play at all even if healthy.

— Linebacker Sio Moore (neck strain) was not at practice and Allen said there was no timetable on his return. Defensive tackle Justin Ellis (concussion) was at practice two weeks after a concussion and Allen expects him to face Seattle.

Cornerback Tarrel Brown and tackle Matt McCants (both concussions) were on the field, but linebacker Nick Roach (concussion) was not.

— The Raiders released tight end Kyle Auffray, tackle Emmett Cleary, linebacker Justin Cole, wide receiver Mike Davis, defensive tackle Torell Troup, wide receiver Rashaan Vaughn and cornerback Jansen Watson. They have 83 players on the roster and must get to 75 Tuesday at 1 p.m.


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Mira Mesa Ma-Raider

    2.7 and 2.9 are closer to three than two. And it sounds like by your lack of protest to it, you’re accepting my premise that 3 yards is a decent (not great) average when removing the big play. So it sounds like you’ve come to the logical conclusion that both are playing fine, although not spectacular, for the moment.

  • the super genius dr robert

    no not at all. 4 ypc is acceptable. anything less is subpar. more is good. they’re poor rbs at this point.

  • Mira Mesa Ma-Raider

    Yes, but as we already discussed, those are their averages without their big gains and that four yards is an outstanding average when removing large gains.

    I dont think this is a conversation worth continuing. You dont seem to be connecting the dots of several simple concepts you agreed to.