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Raiders QB Matt Schaub and coach Dennis Allen believe sore elbow won’t change plan regarding Week 1 starter

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If all goes according to plan, a few days of rest will be the cure for what ails the right elbow of quarterback Matt Schaub and he’ll be in the starting lineup when the Raiders open the regular-season on Sept. 7 against the New York Jets.

Schaub missed his second straight day of practice Monday and although coach Dennis Allen hasn’t ruled him out of the preseason finale against Seattle, the likely scenario will have rookie Derek Carr getting the start and Schaub watching from the sidelines.

The Raiders host the Seahawks Thursday night at 7 p.m. at O.co Coliseum.

Unlike last season, when Terrelle Pryor was essentially auditioning for the starting job against Seattle while Matt Flynn rested a sore elbow, Carr’s work will be developmental unless Schaub’s elbow doesn’t respond to rest and treatment.

“We’re going to take him day by day and try to make sure he’s ready to go,’’ Allen said.

Asked if he expected to be ready to play in the opener, Schaub said, “Absolutely. One-hundred percent. Absolutely.’’

Schaub was non-specific about when his elbow began to bother him.

“It’s just something that’s kind of come up,’’ Schaub said. “It’s lingered a little bit. But it’s come up and we’re dealing with it. It’s something we want to take care of and get out of the way now before we start the regular season.’’

Neither Schaub nor Allen were interested in the coincidental nature of how the Raiders changed quarterbacks a year ago at this time when Flynn played poorly, missed the preseason finale with elbow tendonitis, and then lost his starting job to Terrelle Pryor.

“I don’t know what happened last year. I don’t know what happened with anybody who was here last year,’’ Schaub said. “I just know myself and what we’re going through right now to get ready for Week 1.’’

Said Allen: “I don’t see those two situations as the same.’’

Indeed, while the Raiders were beginning to distance themselves from Flynn and give credence to the possibility that Pryor could start, Allen is still publicly backing Schaub and answered in the affirmative when asked if he expected Schaub to start the opener.

Even with confirmation of elbow soreness, Allen doesn’t feel it’s played a role in some of Schaub’s difficulties in the passing game. Neither does Schaub.

“It hasn’t’ really affected it,’’ Schaub said. “It’s just bothersome. It’s just something I noticed and something I want to take care of and get out of the way.’’

Allen has maintained the Raiders’ struggles with the first team in the passing game were because of mistakes in all areas ranging from protection to route running to dropped passes and some missed throws.

With all that to work on, Schaub has missed two full days of practice.

“Obviously that’s something you’d like to have, but you’ve got to have a little bit of foresight in getting ready for the opening game, and that’s what’s the most critical,’’ Allen said.

Carr appeared as unconcerned as Schaub and Allen about the condition of Schaub’s right elbow.

“Schauby’s going to be fine,’’ Carr said. “There’s no doubt in my mind. He is fine. I’ve seen him every day, I’ve seen what he is doing every day in the weight room, the meeting room, the field. He’s just fine.’’

– The Raiders must trim eight players from the roster to get to the NFL-mandated 75 by 1 p.m. Tuesday. Four of those spots could be cleared by placing cornerback DJ Hayden and guard Lucas Nix on the physically unable to perform list and running back Kory Sheets (Achilles) and tight end Nick Kasa (ACL) on injured reserve.

Allen said, however, the Raiders would probably wait until Saturday’s deadline to make the call on Hayden.

– Linebacker Nick Roach (concussion), linebacker Sio Moore (neck strain) and tackle Menelik Watson (hip flexor) did not practice. Cornerbacks Chimdi Chekwa (knee) and Taiwan Jones (knee) are being targeted for Week 1. Tight end David Ausberry (knee) was moving well while working with the training staff.

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  • BigBenRexor

    I log in as Dr. Hunter S. Thompson when i want to switch it up and be positive.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Or conversely never believe a word you say…

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Not even oneword?

  • 1960AutumnWind

    We will see if Raiders go 6-10. My guess is mark will keep both to save money while he drones on about how disappointed he is as a fan.

  • 0ak R8rs

    No way we end up in Oxnard.

  • Zymurge

    Now that King is holding well, his game level is upped as well. He’s a dual threat now as a booming punter and ace placeholder.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    I was just keeping the never always theme going…

  • NYCRaider

    DA is his own worst enemy , like when the donkeys put up a 28+ spot on us in the 1st half and Da tries to tell the press to watch the game film because our defense was flying around

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Wow Bluehole that’s what I think of you when I read your posts…period

  • 0ak R8rs

    I thought I was brownhole?

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Seahawks fan with Pryor so now Bluehole…

  • RaiderReloader

    The real score of the game will be how many Hotdogs the Jets QB eats during the game.
    Or maybe how many before snap and after whistle penalties we get.

    Another dumb team, with guys mailing it in, or trying hard at wrong time

  • 0ak R8rs

    Ah. I was thinking azzhole so brownhole.

  • Raider O

    So he is a Seahawks fan cause he doesn’t like DA and was a TP fan/ supporter?
    You homers need to grow up.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Ok monkey man… Nice talking to you pot sincerely Kettle

  • lefty12

    Heard a great one earlier today by an official-”Before the play,holding on the defense”.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Is… Is a TP fan. Crazy TP fan like RR is a Lebron fan but Lebron is a really good player at his position

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Before the game…

  • lefty12

    I asked because I find him to be one of the most annoying posters on here.Have never read a comment from him that sounds like he even likes the team.

  • Raider O

    You monkeys are like a cult that promotes ignorance, hate, and Titty monkeys.

  • RaiderReloader

    lol

  • lefty12

    It was against Carolina vs NE so that might explain it.

  • r8ter4evr

    So Tuck had his 3rd highest sack total11 and he is 89 on ESPN ‘s list for de
    Ridiculous the hate

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    We got a new movie out showing how we take over.

  • 0ak R8rs

    He’s coming off his second ACL surgery. He needs to sit his 33 year old azz at home and work on opening a donut franchise or something. He’s done. Good let walk Reggie.

  • r8ter4evr

    Was it the Rams ??

  • Raider O

    Sorry, but you are not a cult monkey. You are a confused Monkey who thinks MM is a future HOFer.

  • r8ter4evr

    Him and Reg open a new IHOP?

  • Blackholepriest

    I’m not worried about these cats. I like certain players all over the league. If that makes me a fan of team in these peoples minds fine.

    That means I probably have at least 20 teams.

  • 0ak R8rs

    Are there 89 starting DEs in the league?

  • Blackholepriest

    Lol

  • lefty12

    Any worse than what you read on here hourly?

  • 0ak R8rs

    Donuts. Pancakes. Whatever. He’s finished. Reggie may have a lot more spare time soon as well.

  • R8erEduc8er

    Only if he signs for free…no pay. He still owes us a cpl free seasons from that payday Al gave him.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    He admits to becoming a lot more negative, jaded, and pessimistic since his ‘Judge’ days. Across the board, not just Raiderwise. Apparently that hasn’t abated.

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    MM=Mistaken Monkey?

  • r8ter4evr

    Much better
    That’s promising

  • Purvisman/Eternal Optimist

    Do you know anything about any of them?

  • Raider O

    Ray Lewis was/ is one of my favorite players. I guess that made me a Ravens fan too. These Monkeys are crazy bro.

  • Raider O

    Mythical Monkey.

  • Raider O

    RR is a Morrison and JLH fan.

  • Elliot

    Listen to espn and you will be clueless

  • lefty12

    How many DEs in front of him?

  • Blackholepriest

    It’s not here man, they just don’t see him as you do.

    Hi was just listening to John Middlekaif and Lowell Cohen. They were talking about our first four games and what would be our record after. Middlekaif 1-3. Cohen 0-4. Folks that is what people think of this team. They have been out at camp and this their professional opinion.

    Not saying I agree or disagree. Now I’m not going yo get into the hater crap! I’m just saying what on earth are you guys seeing that says 8-10 wins?

    Incidentally Cohen has never hated the Raiders he hated Al Davis. But I listened to their reasoning and I honestly couldn’t get mad at it. Because I had no hard evidence that they were clearly WRONG!

  • Blackholepriest

    I think that’s reasonable. In terms of overall players listed.

  • IgnacioE

    I watched all of Schaub’s preseason and haven’t seen any noodle-arm throws on downfield, longer passes when he was allowed to make them. I’ve seen a lot more (1) receivers not being able to separate and get open; and (2) dropped passes (especially Reece’s).

    The O-line should get better as the season progresses, meaning more running yards on first & 2nd down, which shouldn’t put us in those awful 3rd and long situations (offensive penalties are down too).

    Schaub will be fine. And, if not, it won’t be like Flynn the Cancer last year; all 3 qbs are team players and the other 2 can step in – with Schaub’s help and support.

  • c2e

    eh, not hard to see that the miami game is the question.

  • Blackholepriest

    If The Carr handles the curves and hits top speed in 8 seconds. I say he’s street ready. No one expects him to drill the NFL in fact I expect him struggle badly at times. He’s a young QB like McGloin. Who will struggle badly himself.

    I just don’t see more wins because we play McGloin. Now if your reasoning is to let McGloin go in there and take a beating instead of Carr until they build the team I might listen.

    But I would start Carr and protect him with the run game and short passing game. And start building around his obvious talent.

  • RaiderRo

    But I would start Carr and protect him with the run game and short passing game. And start building around his obvious talent.

    ==========

    Exactly. It’s all Olsen knows anyways

  • Blackholepriest

    Can’t wait to see Carr let it fly Thursday. I will be there and I think he takes Raider fans hearts and will play well all things considered.