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No Suh, no Murray? No problem. GM Reggie McKenzie and FS Charles Woodson are excited about start of free agency

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Give Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie some credit for being frank. He didn’t trot out the tired personnel man’s line of insisting everything went exactly to plan.

Yes, the Raiders went after defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and didn’t get him. As well as some other players, probably including running back DeMarco Murray. That’s the nature of free agency.

“Every year, you go after a lot of guys, and you don’t get ’em all,” McKenzie said Saturday night before the Raiders’ Commitment to Excellence dinner honoring free safety Charles Woodson. “Our intent was to go hard and heavy after each one of these guys, and we were able to land a whole bunch of guys that we really liked. We fell really good about the players that we’ve added to our roster.”

McKenzie wasn’t going to give any details, but he conceded Suh, who signed a $114 million contract with $60 million guaranteed, was a person of interest. Asked if the Raiders were in the mix, McKenzie said, “Not to elaborate, but yes, we were. We went after him.”

Woodson, who spent time at the facility in a recruiting capacity, said most of the players he talked to had essentially signed on before he talked to them. He said missing out on Suh may actually pay off in terms of depth.

“There’s no question that Suh would have been huge. He would have been a great addition to the team,” Woodson said. “At the same time, if you don”t get a Suh, you can get three or four other players to make up for it. And what that does is build depth.

“Then you’ve got the draft coming up. You have the potential to build the team the way you want to. Just because you didn’t get one guy, we’ll have the opportunity to build this team the right way and that’s what Reggie’s looking at.”

A succession of newly signed free agents formed a conference call conga line Wednesday espousing the feeling that something big is going on at Harbor Bay Parkway, including center Rodney Hudson, defensive tackle Dan Williams, linebacker Curtis Lofton, linebacker Lee Smith, linebacker Malcolm Smith and running back Roy Helu Jr.

It’s what they’re supposed to say. They got big paydays, it was no time for negativity.

Woodson and McKenzie insist they feel the same way.

“The vibe is crazy right now,” Woodson said. “A lot of positive energy coming from everybody in there. The great part about it is you have a lot of (coaches) who are ex-players, so I think the energy is kind of innately there . .. they have that natural energy.

“It’s been great to talk to ’em and get their vision. I think it’s going to be a great year for us.”

Said McKenzie: “No question it is legitimate. The guys feel, they know, the players know, the coaches know. I think they’re feeding each other. The whole building is feeling it.”

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    You want a guy who could flip out at any time.
    Did you read about the Chicago locker room?

    Did you hear him talk on NFL net (or ESPN), whichever one had him on their show each week DURING football season, about his mental illness?

  • Rick Worth

    Bob Kraft dinner will forgive him.

  • RTF916

    Always thought that was silly. If there is a god, I’m sure she has bigger concerns than professional athletes in one of the world’s wealthiest countries.

  • iRock

    I’d say Hudson, Williams, Lofton and Allen are all starters. Then, Lee Smith, Malcolm Smith and Roy Helu are role players, cxontributors in certain game situations. Then Ponder is a full time backup and Dockery is the kind of body camp taht you could sign at any time.

    Not bad, not great. I’d say we didn’t get any spectacular player, but we got 4 solid starters. then we got some depth at some positions but we just didn’t get anyone to play RG, DE and WR and that concerns me a lot.

  • iRock

    Oh! if only…

  • You’re not supposed to sign 10 new starters a year man. gimme a break that’s a recipe for disaster. look at how we started last year.

  • SaintKaufman

    Does yours yell at you to put the trash out every week too??

  • Reuel Smith

    thank you RTF, I believe I can speak for all of us when I say i feel much better now. sigh. what does RTF stand for?

  • RTF916

    Good for you. You also make dumbfounded assumptions of people who don’t believe in your god.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    We’re trying to BUILD, not get a guy who might make it here for season before he has to be shed and one you don’t know from minute to minute won’t go ape shyt.

    He’s has what is called Borderline Personality Disorder. Baddddddd news.

  • rml

    Didn’t the Steelers QB just sign a 99 million dollar contract?

  • RaiderCDE

    Its not about winning. its about having a squeaky clean roster, shiny new stadium, and a rich owner. Keep trucking out those 70’s/80’s era legends and playing Autumn Wind… so the fans don’t pay attention to the record…

  • Rick Worth

    Ya.u right.

  • Reuel Smith

    i believe in love, and I believe in you RTF(?)

  • iRock

    I don’t know. I’m just repeating what the original poster said. And I agree, he has tried. I think he hasnt tried hard enough though.

  • J Hill

    On top of the Hernandez PR nightmare?

  • R8drTahoe in SF

    Yeah, that’s a privilege that humans have no right in revoking IMO.

    Big difference between life and football.

  • A reigning super bowl champion can take that risk. a perpetual bottom dweller trying to crawl their way out, can’t.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Switch teams, man. You’re miserable with the this one. So, maybe it won’t work for you, but you won’t know until you actually try. Find another team to throw your energy into.

  • rml

    A lot of evil was done in the name of secularism as well.

  • RTF916

    What does Reuel Smith stand for? Seriously, I’ll explain myself when you explain yourself.

  • R8drTahoe in SF

    WTF does that even mean?

  • xraided

    that’s usually how teams do it. i mean, look at the dischargers…they didn’t make a huge splash other than Orlando Franklin…they have their drafted players that they compete with every year.

    most of the winning teams have their home grown talent on full display, and that’s how reggie’s going to do it….

  • Dakota

    No, but Reggie likes to turn the roster over. If he had been more successful in the 2013 draft, and free agency in 2013 and 2014, then we wouldn’t be in a position where we needed more talent at so many positions.

  • RTF916

    In the “name” of secularism? Like what?

  • RaiderCDE

    stop trolling me.. been following this team longer than you’ve been alive. refuse to see the truth but I won’t

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Well and that too. Just trying to understand what he might be thinking based on moves.

  • disqus_yeZNegncsV

    Haven’t you read about him? He’s always had “anger management” problems. Euphemism makes it sound better, huh?

  • Rick Worth

    And Canada!! Big brothers?

  • iRock

    That would be a good approach I think. Go for one star player and then go solid. Especially with the kind of money we had

  • R8drTahoe in SF

    No love here for Ben Rapistburger. Glad he’s not on the Raiders!

  • MuthaFknZeus

    That players have done MUCH worse and were able to come back and play.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    49 ners like thugs it seems and they are nearby?

  • 2013 draft may very well come back as being very successful. all depends on how Hayden plays this year. Yr. 3 is the big year for CBs, so wouldn’t be surprised to see him come into his own this year. If he does, that was a successful draft as well, giving us back to back successful drafts. If 2015 is a good draft as well, future looks bright.

  • Rick Worth

    LoL!!

  • NYCRaider

    Last year we brought in 8 or 9 new starters and had to replace at least half of them

  • OhioRaider

    Dude you dont see the truth, which is this remains an undeserable landing spot for superstars. And knowing this, agents were only using our cap space to drive up deals elsewhere.

  • Dakota

    Yeah, we shall see.

  • SaintKaufman

    I don’t even know who you are anymore!

  • Reuel Smith

    who asked you to explain yourself? not me. I know what yu are.

  • xraided

    hey he tried, guys just put their nose up at us, even for more money. the image must change in Oaktown to attract good FA’s here… and the way to win is through the draft

    i say go White-Gurley-Orchard-Jesse James in the draft… very offensive heavy… get Carr the weapons he deserves to have

  • RTF916

    And that is why the Patriots are probably the most classless sports organization of the 21st century. They can win the Super Bowl every year. I have zero respect for them. In fact, I consider Seattle this year’s champions. I won’t take away what their players accomplished, getting down on that goal line and being able to punch it in for a victory, only for a coach with an agenda to call a dumb play. Back to Back Super Bowl winning Seattle Seahawks. Fvck New England. No respect, ever.

  • johnny

    That’s a good point. too bad there was no video evidence. Either nothing happened or all is forgivin’ smh

  • R8drTahoe in SF

    Yeah, who needs integrity. Those old Raiders teams were full of rapists, murderers, abusers, and criminals!

    But they really weren’t. Don’t confuse partying with violent/immoral behavior.

  • Rick Worth

    That’s me.

  • Rick Worth

    Thanks Lol!!

  • Raidman

    Just a point for real Raiders fans screaming not to follow the GB Packers way of doing things:

    Since the meger of the two leagues in 1966, here’s a list of how many SB, Conf. Titles, division titles and playoffs for the two teams:

    SB: packers = 4 won / Raiders = 3 won
    Conf titles: packers = 4 / Raiders = 5
    Division titles: packers = 10 / Raiders = 12
    Playoff appearances: packers = 14 / Raiders = 17

    I understand that our GM is from gb and he was taught under Wolfe, but both men started their careers under Al Davis of The Oakland Raiders and was also taught by Al Davis.

    Why not follow The Oakland Raiders way but make it better and more adaptable to the “new” era?

  • You can literally judge the state of this blog based off my comments. I am always objective, I just carry the general expectation that we’ll screw it up somehow. When this board is positive and excited, I look like a GIANT A$zhole. When things are panicked and full of blind RM hatred, I look like an RM “ballwasher” as the phrase goes.
    Isn’t hard to see that a breakout year from Hayden and a good draft means that RM is killing it on the draft tip. haha

  • Rick Worth

    No wow.

  • RaYdAFoELyPh

    In general not just Hardy..