Karl Joseph replaced in starting lineup by Nate Allen

Karl Joseph is now listed as the backup at strong safety for Week 1. (Jane Tyska/Bay Area News Group)

Karl Joseph is now listed as the backup at strong safety for Week 1. (Jane Tyska/Bay Area News Group)

The Karl Joseph era apparently won’t begin with him in the starting lineup.

The Raiders released their updated depth chart Tuesday and have Nate Allen listed as the starter at strong safety. Joseph, the team’s first-round pick, had held that spot since the team’s initial depth chart of the exhibition season.

It’s not a huge surprise if you consider how Joseph has been used in recent weeks. In the third exhibition game against Tennessee in which the starters played into the third quarter, he played only 22 defensive snaps. That was the fewest among projected starters.

“He’s still growing,” coach Jack Del Rio said of Joseph after the Tennessee game. “He’s still competing for time, still developing. Remember, he missed the whole offseason. For a young guy, as far as getting reps, he was there mentally doing the best he could but it takes time. It takes reps and experience. He’s getting it on the run right now. He’ll continue to work on it.”

Joseph and second-round pick Jihad Ward were also the only two projected starters (at the time) who played in the exhibition finale against Seattle, logging 31 snaps on defense and eight more on special teams.

Joseph said after that game that he was continuing to work on his “eyes” and where he needs to be on any given play. He had eight tackles in the four exhibition games.

The rookie from West Virginia and No. 14 overall selection was behind the eight ball when he joined the Raiders still rehabilitating from a torn anterior cruciate ligament suffered his senior season. He missed the whole offseason program, but sat out only one training camp practice.

“I think the coaches have done a good job of watching my reps and how I practiced,” Joseph said after the Seattle game. “I love the grind. I understand it’s a process, just got to trust the process.”

The other major depth chart change was Dan Williams returning to the starting defense. With Mario Edwards Jr. now on injured reserve, he comes off the depth chart and is replaced by Jihad Ward at that defensive end spot. Williams takes over Ward’s defensive tackle spot.

Here’s the entire depth chart for Week 1 vs. the Saints.


Position First team Second team Third team Fourth team
WR Michael Crabtree Seth Roberts
LT Donald Penn Matt McCants
LG Kelechi Osemele Jon Feliciano
C Rodney Hudson Jon Feliciano
RG Gabe Jackson Vadal Alexander
RT Menelik Watson Austin Howard
TE Lee Smith Clive Walford Mychal Rivera
WR Amari Cooper Andre Holmes Johnny Holton
QB Derek Carr Matt McGloin Connor Cook
RB Latavius Murray Taiwan Jones DeAndre Washington Jalen Richard
FB Jamize Olawale


Position First team Second team Third team Fourth team
DE Jihad Ward Denico Autry
DT Dan Williams Stacy McGee
NT Justin Ellis Darius Latham
DE Khalil Mack Jihad Ward
SLB Bruce Irvin Shilique Calhoun
MLB Ben Heeney Cory James
WLB Malcolm Smith Daren Bates
LCB David Amerson DJ Hayden Antonio Hamilton 
RCB Sean Smith TJ Carrie Dexter McDonald
FS Reggie Nelson Keith McGill Bryden Trawick
SS Nate Allen Karl Joseph


Position First team Second team Third team Fourth team
P Marquette King
K Sebastian Janikowski
H Marquette King
LS Jon Condo
KR Taiwan Jones DeAndre Washington Johnny Holton
PR TJ Carrie DeAndre Washington Jalen Richard

Rookies are underlined.


Jimmy Durkin

Sports writer for the Bay Area News Group, covering the Raiders.

  • Steveopa

    Best case scenario he is The honey badger 2.0 he is actually bigger then him but have similar skill sets. I think we are going to see 3 Safety sets like the Cardinals.

  • And Condo.

  • Raider 8

    yeah, hopefully joseph is a lot like him and can handle the big dudes like sanders did.

  • DutchRaid

    Also, I wonder if we will see some cool coverage disguises with TJ Carrie on the field?

  • Bob Gallery.

  • R8erEduc8er

    But would most likely only take out the blocker and not the ball carrier.

  • Zubac was impressive in summer league tho…

  • jesusraiderjim

    I meant stick him.lol

  • DutchRaid

    I think Condo was in Al’s will…not Reggie’s fault…contractual obligated to keep him on the roster.

  • Dakota

    Why? Zuuuuuubaaaaaac is going to be a big piece of our future, Mozgov contract was a joke, and hopefully the nail in Jimmy Jr’s coffin.


    What safety got picked after Joseph?

  • Heck Legler


  • Steveopa

    I like TJ Carrie but him getting run over by Kuhn in the Green Bay game tells me he needs to stay at CB.

  • Carole used to read Prince Valiant in the funny papers?

  • Gdog

    He looked like a wrecking ball. But only played 6 games or more twice.

    We don’t need that. Unless we win a ring, like he did!

  • KEANU!

  • Not by the 2nd half

  • DutchRaid

    Yeah…I was thinking a gimmick play here and there…not in the box.

  • Not really. Never had those ball skills.


    Carrie should be a hybrid lb. Thoughts?

  • BroJackson34

    Zub has looked really good!

  • SlvrnBlck478

    Agree. He is coming off an ACL injury. He will be fine. They are just bringing him along slowly.

  • rifflicks

    Exact same size as Jack Tatum…..ever hear of him Junior”

  • No

  • DutchRaid

    Who takes the Taylor Mays role this year?

  • Heck Legler


  • RaidingTexas
  • SlvrnBlck478

    Can’t tackle. he should stay at cb and be backup FS

  • SlvrnBlck478


  • LondonAl

    New Jersey has dozens of solid bridges. NJ always gets a bad press. I lived in Montvale for a month. Lovely!

  • Sucking? Hopefully no one.

  • Heck Legler

    Hopefully, nobody.

  • inonewordraider

    He could barely handle the physicality of safety

  • It was Neiron but no longer…

  • Steveopa

    He had 4 picks in 5 games last year. Honeybadger is a little better at covering and Joseph is a better hitter but they are similar players. You can use them the same. I think JDR and Norton plan to do just that.

  • DutchRaid

    Nickel/Dime Linebacker who covers TEs…made a few nice plays…I know shocking.

  • rifflicks

    Careful …..he’s been anointed by St Homer don’t be a balsphemer

  • LondonAl

    What we have here is a starting safety controversy…..started by the media.


    Send him in on blitzes

  • 2romes

    Yep, he should not have started with that pick at that spot.

  • Steveopa

    One word Kuhn = No way!

  • DutchRaid

    Lol or the hit Ray-Ray put on him returning punts (Yes, Ray-Ray was on OUR team that day!)

  • Heck Legler

    “Cover” being the operative word.

  • inonewordraider

    Our 1at round pick is a bust-the blog

  • rifflicks

    like in a “safety blitz?

  • I know a name that would look good in that backup DE spot behind Mack, but oh well. Damn those “concussions”.

  • RaidingTexas

    And in the 1970s, offensive linemen averaged 255 pounds.

  • SB3

    Found one of these in the front yard this weekend, apparently its a god damn wasp called a “tarantula hawk” b/c it eats damn tarantulas. Has the 2nd most painful insect bite in the world

    “One researcher described the pain as “…immediate, excruciating, unrelenting pain that simply shuts down one’s ability to do anything, except scream. Mental discipline simply does not work in these situations.”
    Refresh for pics, bottom line, don’t mess with a tarantula hawk.

  • RaiderCODE

    I said the offense was the big concern going into the offseason and I still feel that way. Musgy needs to take the training wheels off and be *aggressive* from the beginning of the game. Instead of this (2015):

    1st down: Single back formation, Tay run up the middle for 2 yards
    2nd down: Shotgun empty backfield, the D blitzes and Carr throws it away
    3rd down : Bubble screen for a 4 yard gain

    It needs to be this:
    1st down: Hard play action fake, roll out look for Cooper deep, Crabs underneath
    1st down: Quick slant
    1st down: Draw play

  • DutchRaid

    Actually it was better! 5 picks in 4 games…