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Raiders notes: Del Rio offers new theory on pass vs. Chiefs; second-guesses third-and-1 call

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The Raiders are convinced that something funky happened on this deep pass from Derek Carr to Amari Cooper in their loss to the Kansas City Chiefs. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

The Raiders are convinced that something funky happened on this deep pass from Derek Carr to Amari Cooper in their loss to the Kansas City Chiefs. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

ALAMEDA — Raiders coach Jack Del Rio offered a new theory as to what may have affected a deep Derek Carr pass that fluttered off course to Amari Cooper in the team’s loss to the Kansas City Chiefs.

“The angel in the outfield,” Del Rio said Monday at his weekly news conference, his first time speaking since postgame after the Raiders’ 21-13 loss on Thursday in Kansas City.

“I mean, it moved. You know?,” Del Rio said. “I don’t know if it hit a wire or an angel in the outfield moved it, a gust of wind. I don’t know. It moved.”

The angel in the outfield would be a reference to the 1951 movie “Angels in the Outfield” and a 1994 remake in which angels provide some heavenly assistance on the baseball field.

The play in question was a third-and-7 pass with about nine minutes to go and the Raiders trailing by eight. Carr escaped pressure, stepped into the pocket and fired deep to Cooper, who had gotten a step or two on Kansas City cornerback Marcus Peters. But the ball went off track and Cooper couldn’t get to it.

The popular theory rampant on social media after the game was that Carr’s pass hit the wire that holds up the over-the-field camera used for prime time games.

NBC Sports, which aired the game, has said that was not the case and there’s nothing clear on video — even the all-22 coaches film — to show what may have happened to the ball. Cooper, who seemed to stumble at the last second while going for the ball, said after the game that late movement of the ball is what caused him to not track it properly.

The wind might be the most logical theory. Carr struggled to throw the ball all night and the coaches film seems to show the ball beginning to knuckle on its way up and in theory wind could’ve pushed a wobbly ball off track.

While Del Rio is convinced something funky happened, he’s not willing to blame the loss on the play.

“To me, it was one of so many plays that could’ve gone differently but I’m certainly not sitting here hung up on that play,” he said.

Carr, speaking on his weekly appearance on 95.7 The Game, said he thought the pass was a touchdown when it left his hand.

“It definitely changed direction,” Carr said. “Because when I threw it, in my head, I said, ‘That’s six. That’s a touchdown.’ I knew it was.

“I threw it and I knew Coop was going to catch it and he had a good distance between him and the next defender and he was gone. It definitely changed. You could tell by his reaction at the end of the play as the ball was coming down. It’s crazy how things work. We had a lot of missed opportunities like that. But it is what it is. We just have to own it and deal and move one.”

— With Carr struggling and the running game doing damage, Del Rio openly second-guessed the Raiders’ decision to pass the ball on a key late third-and-1 play.

“I would have liked to have seen us play a little more big boy ball in that game, with the weather, (and) the fact that (Derek) was having an off night,” Del Rio said.

The Raiders were a touchdown and two-point conversion away from a tie with 2:06 remaining when faced with a third-and-1 at the Kansas City 14-yard line.

Carr threw an incomplete pass intended for Andre Holmes on a fade to the right corner of the end zone. Then on fourth-and-1, right tackle Austin Howard was called for a false start, pushing the ball back to the 19 on fourth-and-6.

Carr threw incomplete to Seth Roberts on the left side, and that was the ballgame.

At that point, Latavius Murray had gained 103 yards on 22 carries and Jalen Richard had 25 yards rushing on that drive alone.

“We had three third-and-ones during the game, and the first two we ran it and got it,” Del Rio said. “It would have made a lot of sense to run it right there.”

Offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave is the Raiders play-caller. Del Rio said when he heard the play call in his headset, he considered using a time out to reconsider and run the ball instead.

However, the Raiders had already used a time out, and Del Rio said he didn’t want to use another. So he decided to go ahead with the pass, figuring the opportunity would be there on fourth-and-1 to run the ball.

“I let the play ride and thought we’d be able to get it on the next snap,” Del Rio said. “It’s one of those things, you play the game, you get these opportunities, and look back . . . at the end of the day, that was one, as a staff, we would have really liked to hand the ball off.”

—Del Rio delivered a loud and clear to punter Marquette King: “He can’t have another penalty.”

King has picked up unsportsmanlike conduct penalties in consecutive games. He was flagged in the loss to the Kansas City Chiefs for chasing down Tyreek Hill and exchanging words after Hill returned one of King’s punt 78 yards for a touchdown. King was also penalized the week before against the Buffalo Bills for celebrating with a penalty flag after the Bills were called for roughing the punter.

The message from Del Rio: enough is enough.

“I’ve allowed him to have his freedom,” Del Rio said. “I want him to express himself. I think that’s when he’s at his best. But we can’t have routine 15-yard penalties out of our punter. We’ve got two in a row, two weeks in a row, and that’s got to come to a stop.”

— Raiders left guard Kelechi Osemele tweeted that he’s made a “full recovery” after missing the game against the Chiefs with an illness.

— Defensive end Mario Edwards Jr. had a “pretty good” first week of practice after returning last week, Del Rio said, and they’ll see “how quick he gets up to speed.” There’s a chance he could return against the Chargers.

— Wide receiver Michael Crabtree has a finger injury similar to Carr’s dislocated right pinkie but Del Rio said he’ll be able to play through it. Del Rio didn’t have any updates though on rookie safety Karl Joseph.

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Jimmy Durkin

Sports writer for the Bay Area News Group, covering the Raiders.

  • Aussie Raider

    First.

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Second

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Levi Damien
    2h2 hours ago
    Levi Damien ‏@LeviDamien
    Johnny Manziel accepts Derek Carr’s offer to help him get back into the NFL #Raiders http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2016/12/12/13929824/johnny-manziel-accepts-derek-carr-s-offer-to-help-him-get-back-into-the-nfl?utm_campaign=levidamien&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)
  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Foes this mean Manziel can be our 3rd string qb and mcgloin gets the boot?

  • Aussie Raider

    Stfu Gruden Brady’s a cheat and that’s how he’ll be remembered.

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Good post..
    That ball hit the spider wire, everybody seen it.. A ball dont change direction like that unless it hit something..
    And good of JDR to get on King like that!! These games are huge now, one bad flag can cost us the game..

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Brady will always be known as a cheater.. That will follow him forever

  • Rik/The/”Crusader”⚔️

    A new post

  • idahoraiderfan33

    That explains all the drops by him in that KC game.. It’s hard to catch a ball in that type of cold when all fingers are ok..

  • idahoraiderfan33

    2nd one today eh

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Hmmm that’s interesting
    A long shot though, but ya never know

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Pats blowing it. Need them to lose

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Ravens blew it

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Vic Tafur
    Vic Tafur – Verified account ‏@VicTafur

    Del Rio said DL Mario Edwards did well in practice last week and there’s good chance “we get him back on the field this week.”
    3:23 PM – 12 Dec 2016
    160 RETWEETS338

  • idahoraiderfan33

    On the field as a game?? Or on the practice field with the other players

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    In the chargers game

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Right on.. Good news, even with limited reps still good to get him out there

  • idahoraiderfan33

    The Pats have a good team, hopefully we get to play them!!

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Not a peep about the Aldon Goodell meeting.. hmmm

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    2h2 hours ago
    Levi Damien ‏@LeviDamien
    That’s a #RaiderNation win no matter the result. https://twitter.com/moemoton/status/808534992871653376

  • MEX_GHOST

    The meeting really happened??
    They’d met or myth??

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    It happen on friday

  • MEX_GHOST

    Derek wants another member in his Church.

  • MEX_GHOST

    Then all this time after the meeting without a single comment is not good for Aldon and the Raiders.

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    No

  • PodunkRaider (aka RRS)

    CABLE BUMAYE !!

  • Raiders21

    HIII Rik!!

  • Raiders21

    Would we be able to stop Blount? Ravens are pretty stout upfront and the Patriots took it to them. Primary Brady doing the dismantling with over 400 yards passing and 4 tds?

  • idahoraiderfan33

    I want to see the RAIDER defense shut down Rivers and not give up more than 10 points..
    Dominate them!!

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    35m35 minutes ago
    Marc J. Spears ‏@MarcJSpearsESPN
    “They have what you call, ‘The Black Hole.’ This city will have a black hole if (@RAIDERS) don’t stay in the City of Oakland,” -Marcus Allen

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    30m30 minutes ago
    Scott Bair ‏@BairCSN
    Raiders clinch playoff spot with win in San Diego | CSN Bay Area http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/raiders-clinch-playoff-spot-win-san-diego

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Beat a banged up Bolts team, and we have our first playoff appearance since our SB run!! That’s a long time in the making!! That just adds a little more pressure to our game..

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Vic Tafur
    3h3 hours ago
    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur
    Here’s another thing about removing the tarps. There’s not enough parking spots for the extra fans

  • idahoraiderfan33

    We need to put this team away early!! Do not let them linger, just dominate them

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Well, that’s a trippy excuse not to take down those tarps

  • idahoraiderfan33

    With the team we have now RAIDER fans would fill that stadium pretty easy, imo

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Oakland Raiders coach Jack Del Rio discussed the return of defensive ends Mario Edwards Jr. and Aldon Smith on 95.7 The Game Monday.

    The Raiders have been taking it slow with Edwards Jr. given the severity of the hip injury he suffered during an exhibition Aug. 12. The 22-year old wasn’t activated for almost two full months after the team was first allowed to do so.

    When asked if he thought Edwards Jr. would see the field Sunday against the San Diego Chargers, Del Rio remained non-committal.

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    As for Oakland’s other missing stud defensive end, Del Rio took a very sober tone to the question of if he thought he would be coaching Smith before the end of the season.

    “I have no idea. I remain hopeful. I know they met. I know that he’s served his time. From all indications that I’ve received, he’s done all the things that he’s needed to do. Now it’s up to the commissioner to make that decision.”

    Raiders Wire will continue to update on both players as soon as more news comes in

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    I think he plays

  • idahoraiderfan33

    We don’t need MEJ for the banged up Bolts, so don’t force it we don’t have too.. We need to be careful with MEJ cause we will need him for the playoffs..
    Those the best of the best teams we will play..
    And the return of Aldon eh JDR?? Ya know something?!

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero
    Grubman says no signs of “a breakthrough anytime soon” in Oakland. #Raiders can apply for relocation in <3 weeks. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/raiders/2016/12/13/oakland-las-vegas-deal-stadium-mark-davis/95381628/

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Bring back Aldon and Mario for our first playoff game. Goodell will hold out till the end of the season

  • idahoraiderfan33

    It’s a good chance by the sounds of it, as long as they don’t push it..
    Make sure he’s ready to play.. Now me as a fan i want to see that beast in there

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Im expecting word on Aldon here pretty soon.. I mean, just come out with it why wait

  • CARR SHOW (baby Al)

    Lott group is not pulling this off

  • idahoraiderfan33

    All this drama talk and all we got was a sign of no breakthrough as of yet..

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Things always look good on paper till you get into the details.. Then the water gets muddy.. Times ticking!!

  • idahoraiderfan33

    It would be good to at least have them for the Colts and Donks.. At least 2 games to get into football shape, then the playoffs

  • idahoraiderfan33

    It’s time for the RAIDERS to get Cooper involved in the RedZone!!
    Time and again we see the RAIDERS force feed the ball to Roberts in the RedZone, and yes he makes some clutch catches but also drops TDs alot of times!! Cooper is our best WR, throw him the ball!!