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When will Raiders QB Derek Carr take snap from center? Mum’s the word

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Derek Carr hasn’t taken a snap from iunder center in 231 snaps

ALAMEDA — When we last saw Raiders quarterback Derek Carr under center on Nov. 27, he exited with his right pinkie finger bent in different directions after an exchange with Rodney Hudson.

Since Carr’s return that day, he has taken 231 snaps from center — every one of them in either the shotgun or pistol formations, when the snap travels at least four yards through the air and with limited force on the hands of the quarterback.

Whether the Raiders return to plays run from under center against Indianapolis Saturday at the Coliseum remains to be seen, and certainly won’t be advertised by the coaching staff in advance.

In a 19-16 win over San Diego, Carr actually lined up under center late in the first quarter long enough to draw Chargers defensive end Joey Bosa offsides for a penalty. The ball was never snapped.

The rest of the game was strictly shotgun and pistol. Carr is playing with the finger taped, his brother David telling NFL Media at the time of the injury it was dislocated in two places.

While Carr directed the Raiders to a wins over Carolina and Buffalo, the offense has struggled in the last two games against division opponents Kansas City and San Diego with two touchdowns in 10 red zone possessions.

The Raiders haven’t run plays from under center in either short yardage or goal line, which usually calls for those formations, and even ran five snaps in kneel-down formations against Carolina and San Diego out of shotgun.

All of which suggests Carr’s pinkie is limiting the Raiders to some extent offensively, although neither coach Jack Del Rio nor Carr were conceding that point Monday.

“I wouldn’t draw any conclusions from that,” Del Rio said at his weekly press conference. “I think we’re doing what we think is right for us and it’s not that we can’t or we haven’t, it’s just that we’re choosing to proceed the way we are.”

Asked when he might be lining up under center on his weekly radio appearance on 95.7 The Game, Carr said, “I haven’t been limited at all. I’m taking snaps from center (in warm-ups). I did it before the game, for those that saw that. There’s no limitations so I’m just going to do what the coaches call.”

Since the injury, Carr has completed 53.3 percent of his passes (65 of 122) for 721 yards, four touchdowns and two interceptions, a passer rating of 75.2. A passer rating that was 101.2 at the time of the injury has dropped to 95.2.

On Nov. 6, the Raiders had their best rushing performance of the season, with 43 attempts for 218 yards against the Denver Broncos. They ran the ball from under center on 34 of those 43 carries.

It defies logic to suggest Del Rio and offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave have made a conscious decision to abandon an entire section of the playbook and that it has nothing to do with the health of their quarterback.

In the postgame locker room after the Chargers win, Del Rio said using the shotgun in the red zone: was “an issue we’re working through . . . at some point (when) we feel better about going under center, we will.”

— Del Rio, while ecstatic for a fan base which hasn’t seen the playoffs since 2002, was getting on with the business of preparing to face the Colts.

“There’s been a drought here. We got here two years ago and talked about winning the division and being in the playoffs. The being in the playoffs part is there. The winning the division (part) is yet to be determined. We need to continue to work on that.”

— When Del Rio won a challenge which re-spotted a scramble gain by Carr for a first down, it was his third win in five challenges. The Raiders got a huge ruling in their favor when Michael Crabtree’s 13-yard catch was ruled a touchdown after originally being ruled out of bounds.

“I believe in getting it right when you can,” Del Rio said. “I’d like to see it expanded to any call you think is important enough for your  team. I’ve got a bunch of good people to help with that decision making. We’ve been fortunate to be on the right side of a bunch of those.”

— Wide receiver Amari Cooper caught one pass for 28 yards and has 12 catches for 138 yards in his last four games.

“It’d be nice to get him a few more balls, but I think at the end of the day, we want to stack up wins,” Del Rio said. “I think that’s the most important thing, but I think getting your premiere players involved is usually a good thing.”

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Rikster/Da/Kool/Kat

    Beech?

  • MEX_GHOST

    Damn cheerleaders are hot eehh!!

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    Would rather have cook in there. Did u see the series when mcgloin was in there for Carr against the Panthers??

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    I think miami wins at home vs pats

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    2h2 hours ago
    ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo
    The only time Raiders had the most Pro Bowlers outright was in 1983, when they had 8. They won the Super Bowl that season
    via @EliasSports https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/811386953438556161

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    Evert Geerlings
    Evert Geerlings – ‏@E_Geerlings

    .@RAIDERS Reggie Nelson in 2016:

    – Tied for most takeaways among safeties (6)
    – 3 INTs leading to game-ending kneel-downs

  • MEX_GHOST

    Miami is not a menace for us??

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    Nah

  • Rikster/Da/Kool/Kat

    Aloha Maties

  • rifflicks

    A documentary of Riks love life

  • Rikster/Da/Kool/Kat

    Lol..

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Reggie is a top 3 GM in the league imo..
    7 pro bowl players and 5 alternates pro bowl… 12 players!!

  • idahoraiderfan33

    And we have an 11-3 record
    That’s amazing

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    Michael floyd practicing with Patriots

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    Vic Tafur ‏@VicTafur
    Musgrave called Carr and Hudson a “dynamic duo, like having 2 QBs. They both have veto power over anything we call.”

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    Adam Schefter
    Adam Schefter – Verified account ‏@AdamSchefter

    If WR Michael Floyd is convicted of super extreme DUI (over .20), he will have to serve at least 45 days in jail per Arizona law

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    Mike Chappell
    Mike Chappell – Verified account ‏@mchappell51

    Oakland’s Derek Carr has been sacked league-low 15 times. Colts Andrew Luck was sacked 14 times in 3-game stretch (Jax, Chicago, Houston)

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    1h1 hour ago
    Sports TV Ratings ‏@SportsTVRatings
    Rams getting better ratings in St. Louis than in L.A. http://usat.ly/2ib1Ak7 via @usatoday

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Free Aldon Smith!!

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Hmmmmm

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Free Aldon Smith!!

  • idahoraiderfan33

    The RAIDERS have a pro bowl OL
    And i think we get Luck around 3 times in this game

  • idahoraiderfan33

    But LA is much better eh Stan the man

  • PodunkRaider (aka RRS)

    I sure am glad he and JDR shook hands and resolved the beef from prior Jax tenure. He’s been a great add

  • PodunkRaider (aka RRS)

    STL is a baseball town. Still, they deserve a football team

  • PodunkRaider (aka RRS)

    Colts OL sucks and their defense sucks. Still, if they score more points than we do, they’ll win…

  • PodunkRaider (aka RRS)

    Hudson, too? LOL. Imagine some grunt in the huddle saying “air it out, Derek. Based upon this formation we should be able to strike deep”

  • PodunkRaider (aka RRS)

    Those first 2 years of on-the-job training were brutal. Reggie couldn’t sign or draft anybody to save his life. Poor DA.

  • idahoraiderfan33

    The Colts will come in and play above their talent level..
    Seems like it’s always like that when we play whoever

  • PodunkRaider (aka RRS)

    Luck, Gore & Hilton are players. Franchise QB’s make the guys around them better. You never know when the role players like Dorsett, Moncrief or the TE’s might explode..

  • PodunkRaider (aka RRS)

    We know about Robert Mathis. Who the H is Erik Walden? Dude has 10 sacks for Indy… Darius Butler has 3 INT’s

  • idahoraiderfan33

    The first two years really sucked dude.. Massive dead money, cap hell, etc
    Nobody wanted to come to the RAIDERS..
    I remember some dude in the Media was like, you can’t fix that job!! It cant’ be done.. Then that 13 draft was one of the worst in the history of football, or close to it.. We had a stacked deck against us to start, and throw in Reggie as a rookie GM, DANG!!
    All better now though

  • idahoraiderfan33

    They have talent no doubt, just not RAIDER talent.. And yet they will play above that talent they have.. So it always seems

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    Yes he has

  • BRRUUUCCCEEE (baby Al)

    Trey wingo trolling Jerome Bettis about his purple tie

  • idahoraiderfan33

    Never even heard of Erik Walden.. And wow Mathis is still playing??
    If our OL can man up on AFCW DLs this Colt DL should really be no challenge for the RAIDER OL, imo And yet who knows??

  • PodunkRaider (aka RRS)

    yep. we had a rookie owner, rookie gm, rookie hc and rookie dc. Knapp as the oc. Flynn/Schaub as the qb. what could go wrong?

  • PodunkRaider (aka RRS)

    wingnut is still on TV? why?

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