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	<title>Comments on: Clayton Valley charter committee requests more dialogue with district</title>
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		<title>By: Wait a minute</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/14/clayton-valley-charter-committee-requests-more-dialogue-with-district/comment-page-1/#comment-10927</link>
		<dc:creator>Wait a minute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 15:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll second that motion!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll second that motion!</p>
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		<title>By: e.t.marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/14/clayton-valley-charter-committee-requests-more-dialogue-with-district/comment-page-1/#comment-10922</link>
		<dc:creator>e.t.marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill Storm is correct in saying: &quot;we made the mistake of trusting the board at their word because we were nervous about antagonizing them and wanting a working relationship with them in the future&quot;

And yes, I too do not trust this school board. Now what?

Per:CCSA:“Once submitted, the district has 30 days to hold a hearing on the charter petition and another 30 days to make a final decision. Extensions may be granted by mutual consent up to a total of 90 days.”

A final decision is not a conditional decision, it is a simple yes or no. A conditional decision is a no.

So what to do? Formally appeal to the County Board(many facts show this school board has bent the rules-think City of Bell) and act to make your voice heard. Think politics and votes; recall has a nice ring. Do I have a second?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Storm is correct in saying: &#8220;we made the mistake of trusting the board at their word because we were nervous about antagonizing them and wanting a working relationship with them in the future&#8221;</p>
<p>And yes, I too do not trust this school board. Now what?</p>
<p>Per:CCSA:“Once submitted, the district has 30 days to hold a hearing on the charter petition and another 30 days to make a final decision. Extensions may be granted by mutual consent up to a total of 90 days.”</p>
<p>A final decision is not a conditional decision, it is a simple yes or no. A conditional decision is a no.</p>
<p>So what to do? Formally appeal to the County Board(many facts show this school board has bent the rules-think City of Bell) and act to make your voice heard. Think politics and votes; recall has a nice ring. Do I have a second?</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa Harrington</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/14/clayton-valley-charter-committee-requests-more-dialogue-with-district/comment-page-1/#comment-9398</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a link to more info, but it doesn&#039;t seem to be school-specific: http://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/he/at/chksreports.asp.
Yes, I noticed the exclamation points too. Not sure what the deal is with that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link to more info, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to be school-specific: <a href="http://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/he/at/chksreports.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/he/at/chksreports.asp</a>.<br />
Yes, I noticed the exclamation points too. Not sure what the deal is with that.</p>
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		<title>By: CVHS Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/14/clayton-valley-charter-committee-requests-more-dialogue-with-district/comment-page-1/#comment-9397</link>
		<dc:creator>CVHS Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Theresa, is there a way to get the results of the full healthy kid report or whatever that is called?  Isn&#039;t that the one that the kids complete at the beginning of the year... ?  

Also looking through that report... I found it curious that the bottom had exclamation points.  Why did they use exclamation points?  It&#039;s just a report, from the GOV no less, strange.  (I know that&#039;s probably an odd thing to notice)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theresa, is there a way to get the results of the full healthy kid report or whatever that is called?  Isn&#8217;t that the one that the kids complete at the beginning of the year&#8230; ?  </p>
<p>Also looking through that report&#8230; I found it curious that the bottom had exclamation points.  Why did they use exclamation points?  It&#8217;s just a report, from the GOV no less, strange.  (I know that&#8217;s probably an odd thing to notice)</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa Harrington</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/14/clayton-valley-charter-committee-requests-more-dialogue-with-district/comment-page-1/#comment-9386</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, I received clarification from Peggy Marshburn, the County Office of Education spokeswoman, regarding the county&#039;s position.
Although county officials continue to believe the charter committee cannot appeal unless the petition is denied, Marshburn said the county hasn&#039;t received any sort of appeal in writing from the petitioners to evaluate. 
If the petitioners have a legal basis for their contention that the district&#039;s conditions represent a &quot;de-facto denial,&quot; the county would evaluate the legal issues presented in their written appeal, before determining whether the county Board of Education could consider the charter, she said.
Marshburn also stressed that the petitioners must submit the same petition to the county that they submit to the district. 
If it is changed, the petitioners must resubmit the petition to the district for approval, she said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I received clarification from Peggy Marshburn, the County Office of Education spokeswoman, regarding the county&#8217;s position.<br />
Although county officials continue to believe the charter committee cannot appeal unless the petition is denied, Marshburn said the county hasn&#8217;t received any sort of appeal in writing from the petitioners to evaluate.<br />
If the petitioners have a legal basis for their contention that the district&#8217;s conditions represent a &#8220;de-facto denial,&#8221; the county would evaluate the legal issues presented in their written appeal, before determining whether the county Board of Education could consider the charter, she said.<br />
Marshburn also stressed that the petitioners must submit the same petition to the county that they submit to the district.<br />
If it is changed, the petitioners must resubmit the petition to the district for approval, she said.</p>
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		<title>By: Wait a minute</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/14/clayton-valley-charter-committee-requests-more-dialogue-with-district/comment-page-1/#comment-9385</link>
		<dc:creator>Wait a minute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There you go, words of experience and warning above from Mr. Bill Storm to &#039;Shoe&quot; and the charter supporters.

Don&#039;t let the MDUSD jerk you around past this next board meeting. If you dont get a clear approval or denial you need to go on the offensive and put as much legal and political heat on the MDUSD or you might be defeated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There you go, words of experience and warning above from Mr. Bill Storm to &#8216;Shoe&#8221; and the charter supporters.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let the MDUSD jerk you around past this next board meeting. If you dont get a clear approval or denial you need to go on the offensive and put as much legal and political heat on the MDUSD or you might be defeated.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa Harrington</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/14/clayton-valley-charter-committee-requests-more-dialogue-with-district/comment-page-1/#comment-9376</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Belatedly, here is the link to the CVHS expulsion, suspension and truancy report for 2010-11: http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/Expulsion/ExpReports/SchoolExpRe.aspx?cYear=2010-11&amp;cChoice=ExpInfo3&amp;cDistrict=0761754--Mt.%20Diablo%20Unif&amp;cCounty=07&amp;cNumber=0731380&amp;cName=CLAYTON%20VALLEY%20HIGH.

Here is the districtwide report: http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/Expulsion/ExpReports/DistrictExp.aspx?cYear=2010-11&amp;cChoice=DstExp1&amp;cCounty=07&amp;cNumber=0761754&amp;cName=Mt%2E+Diablo+Unified]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belatedly, here is the link to the CVHS expulsion, suspension and truancy report for 2010-11: <a href="http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/Expulsion/ExpReports/SchoolExpRe.aspx?cYear=2010-11&#038;cChoice=ExpInfo3&#038;cDistrict=0761754--Mt.%20Diablo%20Unif&#038;cCounty=07&#038;cNumber=0731380&#038;cName=CLAYTON%20VALLEY%20HIGH" rel="nofollow">http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/Expulsion/ExpReports/SchoolExpRe.aspx?cYear=2010-11&#038;cChoice=ExpInfo3&#038;cDistrict=0761754&#8211;Mt.%20Diablo%20Unif&#038;cCounty=07&#038;cNumber=0731380&#038;cName=CLAYTON%20VALLEY%20HIGH</a>.</p>
<p>Here is the districtwide report: <a href="http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/Expulsion/ExpReports/DistrictExp.aspx?cYear=2010-11&#038;cChoice=DstExp1&#038;cCounty=07&#038;cNumber=0761754&#038;cName=Mt%2E+Diablo+Unified" rel="nofollow">http://dq.cde.ca.gov/dataquest/Expulsion/ExpReports/DistrictExp.aspx?cYear=2010-11&#038;cChoice=DstExp1&#038;cCounty=07&#038;cNumber=0761754&#038;cName=Mt%2E+Diablo+Unified</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Storm</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/14/clayton-valley-charter-committee-requests-more-dialogue-with-district/comment-page-1/#comment-8680</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In 2007 I led a charter movement in my school district that met the identical fate as yours in MDUSD.  “Conditional approval” was granted in October, and the conditions were subject to our &quot;addressing concerns&quot; and “resolving issues with district staff” as expressed by the board, the question to be reconsidered at a board meeting in January, 2008. Our charter was fully vetted by CCSA, supported by teachers, students and staff, and there were no legal grounds to deny our charter.  The charter design was sound and visionary, and we had huge organizational and instructional talent on the start-up board and in the wings to really make the school a huge success.

We were nervous about the delay for two reasons.  First, the calendar delay pushed the appeals calendar such that it made it extremely difficult for us to run the appeals gauntlet in time to open the school the following school year.  Second, the BoE’s attorney/consultant had a track record of representing school boards in their efforts to squash charter efforts.  However, we made the mistake of trusting the board at their word because we were nervous about antagonizing them and wanting a working relationship with them in the future, plus we decided to assume they were acting in good faith.

Despite the eventual recommendation by our superintendent and staff to approve the charter, our BoE denied the charter on illegal grounds in January, but as there are no sanctions against boards that violate the law, they had no reason to adhere to it.

Our one regret was that we did not conclude immediately that the board was denying our charter and file suit to pressure them to approve or deny the charter immediately, especially considering how hard we’d worked to keep district staff involved in our development process.  While the suit may have proved untenable, we should have tried the issue in the court of public opinion, recognizing that the board focuses its resources on its political constituency only, and that shedding light on their school financing practices would have yielded a more certain outcome.

The result is that our districts only majority/minority school is now closed, and the performance of our less affluent and ESL students who were distributed to schools lacking the effective program hosted in their now-shuttered school has suffered significantly.  Real flesh and blood children are hurt when well-constituted charter efforts fail, and I hope you can provide the kind of school experience the students of Clayton Valley High School deserve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2007 I led a charter movement in my school district that met the identical fate as yours in MDUSD.  “Conditional approval” was granted in October, and the conditions were subject to our &#8220;addressing concerns&#8221; and “resolving issues with district staff” as expressed by the board, the question to be reconsidered at a board meeting in January, 2008. Our charter was fully vetted by CCSA, supported by teachers, students and staff, and there were no legal grounds to deny our charter.  The charter design was sound and visionary, and we had huge organizational and instructional talent on the start-up board and in the wings to really make the school a huge success.</p>
<p>We were nervous about the delay for two reasons.  First, the calendar delay pushed the appeals calendar such that it made it extremely difficult for us to run the appeals gauntlet in time to open the school the following school year.  Second, the BoE’s attorney/consultant had a track record of representing school boards in their efforts to squash charter efforts.  However, we made the mistake of trusting the board at their word because we were nervous about antagonizing them and wanting a working relationship with them in the future, plus we decided to assume they were acting in good faith.</p>
<p>Despite the eventual recommendation by our superintendent and staff to approve the charter, our BoE denied the charter on illegal grounds in January, but as there are no sanctions against boards that violate the law, they had no reason to adhere to it.</p>
<p>Our one regret was that we did not conclude immediately that the board was denying our charter and file suit to pressure them to approve or deny the charter immediately, especially considering how hard we’d worked to keep district staff involved in our development process.  While the suit may have proved untenable, we should have tried the issue in the court of public opinion, recognizing that the board focuses its resources on its political constituency only, and that shedding light on their school financing practices would have yielded a more certain outcome.</p>
<p>The result is that our districts only majority/minority school is now closed, and the performance of our less affluent and ESL students who were distributed to schools lacking the effective program hosted in their now-shuttered school has suffered significantly.  Real flesh and blood children are hurt when well-constituted charter efforts fail, and I hope you can provide the kind of school experience the students of Clayton Valley High School deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Wait a minute</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/14/clayton-valley-charter-committee-requests-more-dialogue-with-district/comment-page-1/#comment-8425</link>
		<dc:creator>Wait a minute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Dr. J and the others, Recall is the only viable option now.

As they say in the business &quot;Either lead, follow, or get out of the way.&quot;

This board and their hired guns have proven over and over (with more examples every week) that they cannot lead in any sense of the word. 

They have now proven that they are unwilling to follow or get out of the way by jerking around a grass-roots charter group with massive public support.

It is clearly now time to remove these people from public service so that others can do the job that they have so thoroughly failed to do!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Dr. J and the others, Recall is the only viable option now.</p>
<p>As they say in the business &#8220;Either lead, follow, or get out of the way.&#8221;</p>
<p>This board and their hired guns have proven over and over (with more examples every week) that they cannot lead in any sense of the word. </p>
<p>They have now proven that they are unwilling to follow or get out of the way by jerking around a grass-roots charter group with massive public support.</p>
<p>It is clearly now time to remove these people from public service so that others can do the job that they have so thoroughly failed to do!</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa Harrington</title>
		<link>http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/14/clayton-valley-charter-committee-requests-more-dialogue-with-district/comment-page-1/#comment-8417</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 22:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have just posted a letter from Clayton Mayor David Shuey regarding the board&#039;s conditions of approval: http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/18/clayton-mayor-expresses-disappointment-in-mdusd-board-charter-decision/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just posted a letter from Clayton Mayor David Shuey regarding the board&#8217;s conditions of approval: <a href="http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/18/clayton-mayor-expresses-disappointment-in-mdusd-board-charter-decision/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibabuzz.com/onassignment/2011/09/18/clayton-mayor-expresses-disappointment-in-mdusd-board-charter-decision/</a></p>
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